DAMG dude, as a 23 year old ex Catholic with a devout family, Jackie Angel and Fr. Mike Schmitz were some of my family’s favorite speakers. They’re a good place to start goin “hold up, what?” To. I’m trying to find good guides through my religious deconstruction so I don’t go full angry atheist, but I can’t relate to a lot of evangelicals. I don’t have flat earth or young earth or “being saved” or creationism to let go of. My education was full of sound science, for the most part. I really need a specifically Catholic perspective. Also the Fr. Mike video popped up first when I searched “losing your faith as a Catholic” and I was flooded with pain. Thank you so much for your videos, I appreciate you so much. (Lmao almost said God Bless but not sure if I believe in him anymore)
Thanks for addressing this. People are vulnerable to these apparently well-put-together, self-confident men in cassocks, who speak as though what they say is both reasonable and indisputable. One of the common aspects of cult/high-control groups is they teach that if there is a flaw or failure, it's always the fault of the individual who left. In fact, many of the most devoted individuals are the ones who find out it's all a sham. If you take a circular, hypocritical system of beliefs seriously enough, you're more likely to find out that in the end (no matter how hard you try and beg for help), it's just inherently flawed.
It does make it easier to understand a religious (or any type of) system, when one takes it seriously and actually attempts to apply it in their life. That’s for sure.
Thank you for the videos. I was raised SSPX and attended the Academy in Saint Mary’s from 4th grade to graduation. My wife went even longer than I did. Over a period of about 10 years of serious questioning and study it became clear that the claims of Catholicism in general have no more grounding in reality, nor evidence, than any other religion. Faith can be utilized to justify any belief system. I might add that my initial studies were an attempt to reinforce my faith and inoculate myself against those who would challenge it. I applaud your bravery and really appreciate your videos. Contrary to what many believers would assume I have experienced peace and contentment much more than I ever did as a faithful Catholic. I hope you have experienced the same.
Thank you for your support and sharing your experience. Although I cannot deny those times of peace that I experienced in religion, I can say that now I too have a peace. At least that I am where I should be for the present time...
I think you should tune into Bishop Robert Baron and his talks on Word on Fire. And tune into what Pope Francis preaches ( who is rejected by the SSPX and Church Militant and other crazies. I think you have been driven away the crazy fringes of Catholicism. You are a good and great Catholic my friend.
I don't know yet how it is for me. This Easter was hard. I still go to church because I am afraid to say my doubts to my family. I don't know. It's weird. I was hoping that somehow my faith would come back if I receive sacraments as always. I don't know. My last cofession was weird. I cried. I couldn't even tell what was really wrong. I didn't have the proper words. I am kinda sorry for that priest who didn't know what to say. And later I tried to hide my tears. Because I didn't want to worry my mother. I feel like an impostor. I am thankful that I can at least talk about this with my boyfriend. I am lost. I don't know. And it's tempting to deconstruct all of this and see only the bad things. But I guess it's like that because previously I didn't let any thoughts of criticisms of the church seriously.
It's hard to believe that anyone who believes that one would give up or let go of their faith has ever really had their faith truly tested. The people that Ascension Presents is speaking of aren't people I'd understand as having lost their faith, rather they lost a certain practice. Losing your faith, really losing it, implies that you had it in the first place and for many that translated into a deeply rooted prayer life, and a willingness to go the whole way and follow the teachings of the church, no matter how difficult. I can't speak for others in the ex-Catholic community, but for myself, I didn't lose my faith: it left me, so to speak, and I fought very hard, kicking and screaming, to keep it. I make the comparison to death. It was like dying the death of a thousand cuts or a thousand unanswered prayers. The more I looked for God the more emptiness and pain and abandonment and rejection I found. In the beginning as I realized I was losing that faith, I fought so hard to keep it through prayer and reading and meditation and study, and it was this very desperate attempt to keep it which finally opened my eyes to the realization that there is no God, at least not in the Judeo-Christian sense - no personal loving saviour. I looked so hard for him and found nothing but the realization that if there was a God and he cared about me or wanted me too, then I would have found him by then. What a realization that was. I felt like a meaningless mass of organic molecules arbitrarily arranged together for a brief point in time, adrift on a cosmic ocean without purpose or direction. The trauma of losing everything I believed in, everything my life had revolved around drove me to the brink of suicide; I ended up on medication, in therapy, trying different modalities of treatment in order to remain a "practicing Catholic". Feeling then like a child of a lesser God, I went to numerous priests, spent countless hours praying even when that prayer cost me so much more than time. If only I could have found God, found faith again, I would have given up everything to stay with him. So no, Fr. Mike, I didn't leave my faith, it left me. He may have blue eyes and fast-talking, pithy sayings regarding those who have left the community, but what does he know? Very little, apparently. He's speaking to a group that likes to hear that those who have "failed" did so because something was inherently wrong with them: not the group, not the dogma, not the doctrine, not the deity, but them. It's a very comfortable bubble to live in because it doesn't require you to shift perspective or ask difficult questions or face difficult problems that might require a radical change in oneself.
I fail probably everyday but i know that the next day god doesn't give up on me and is working on me. I don't give up on him as i still feel his love in my life maybe that is what faith to me. I am not perfect but we aready knew that
It is important to understand that there are three theological virtues (Faith, Hope, and Love). I did not hear the other two discussed. St. Paul pointed out the the greatest was Love. So you have different religions or "realities" to choose from. Only one presents us with a God who Loves us infinitely so much as to suffer for us. To me life would be sad with any other reality that does not include Jesus - the Jesus of the Catholic Faith. St. Theresa of Avila points out that the spiritual life is a refining of our Love for God. God is a prudent fiancee and will make sure he has a worthy spouse before being Wedded. Marriages between a man and a woman can go two ways and we see that a successful marriage involves loving a spouse for their sake and not yours. So many marriages fail because a spouse expected certain things in return. A form of self-love. The Catholic Faith teaches that Heaven is void of self-love among creatures and that our mortal life is an opportunity to purge ourselves of self-love. Lucifer loved himself whereas St. Michael understood that God was his first beginning and last end. Pride is just a form of self-love. The Catholic Faith is a beautiful Faith that teaches us to Love God by living a life of Virtue. Jesus teaches us that his Yoke or Burden is light and actually sweet. Just as a devoted husband finds joy in making extreme sacrifices for his spouse so Saints embraced extreme suffering and even martyrdom with joy. I highly recommend the Sinner's Guide by The Venerable Louis of Granada. "And if I should have prophecy and should know all mysteries, and all knowledge, and if I should have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing." 1 Corinthians 13:2 "Peter do you Love me?" John 21:15
Our Brother. You said in a previous video regarding your sexuality that you had no growing-up life crises. We don't always recognize them as such. Around five I realized Ma never told me she loved me. Never joyfully embraced me, or anyone. I asked, Ma, 'do you love me'? How does a mom not easily feel love for any 5 year old boy? She protested 'That's kid stuff'! Three times I persisted. 'But Ma, do you love me? Say it.' Ma didn't feel enabled. Poor Ma. No hard feelings. Tragically she was never enabled by her life's crazy quirks on HOW to reach into understanding the HOW TO of ever believe loving her own real Life given INNATE self. Some are handed it so easily. Life bequeathed many of Ma's 'NON-CRISES' empty 'reminders'. You say you felt in seminary an IMMENSE emptiness? Our buddy, some immense childhood emptiness is hiding you from you. Your stated sexuality, I believe, hides still more in self-substitution of loss. One can deeply wonder why you wanted to become priest. Did you think you fell in love with Christ? Did He inspire you to think that if you went looking to Him for your like He would you both would find a lost self? There are only 3 (tumultuous) years left. Uncover, unfetter your real self. Already Noah be jammin' planks into the windees. The universe is matter, brainlessly bound by laws of mere inter-dependency. It's not mind, not spirit, not god. No. YOU prove cosmic ancient dumb paganism, shortly again about to be disproved. You have brains, son of God. Find how to embody your own inner real self not further displacing with 'better' substitutes filling inner imaging for more 'immense emptiness'. Immeasurable loss of your real self discovered too late is an emptiness Unending. And yikes, am I itching to give your social symptoms haircut! Sorry. You sort of resemble that priest you're misunderstanding here. You make funny facial expressions like he does. I think I'm going to rather read a book of how you uncovered your real self. Someone should write one.
Ok, the lady from Ascension Presents seems more like she is talking to a person considering converting to The Faith than she is talking to a person losing the Faith. However, they do have very good videos on there sometimes. I agree with what you are saying here though. This was what I saw in Evangelical Christianty as well, what I call "fluffy pancakes" Christianty. I was never an Evangelical Christian but at the end of my search/journey I realized that if I had been raised a typical hardcore Evangelical Christian I very likely would have apostasized....(the thought terrified me at the time😅) too many issues one of which was a severe lack of grit that ran 100% contrary with my experiences with God; and mind you this particular issue looked different within the different flavors of Evangelical Christianty. I find your videos very funny sometimes though🤣, I don't know if that is appropriate, given the seemingly dark undertone?? topics?? Francis, I want you to know I am still praying for you.
I just realized she's actually talking about people who leave the Church to go to say Protestant churches with "easier Teachings"; or leave because of the scandals in the Church. She's not necessarily talking about people who lose or are losing faith (completely different animal). That makes her commentary make more sense!
I lost my faith some times but in one in particular, it was nothing related to me choosing not to believe, but with grief, I lost the person I loved the most...the pain was too strong, with time...my faith came back when I started to make peace with my circumstances...I was not Catholic enough, ok... I believe in God, not anymore in the Catholic way because yes,I cannot agree with the scandals, teachings on homosexuality, women ordination, contraception... So I suppose, I chose not to use my faith?? I'm horrible!! 😂 I'm happier, although still fearing things I learned from that path.
Francis, I have been following your videos, as I said before, I have so many questions for you... How did you get bypass the fact of faith in the dark...you speak of a crisis that happened. The crisis that may have been the straw that broke the camel's back...do you feel your faith was slowly being lost bit by bit because people didn't seem to know how to help you and you felt you you tried so hard and no fruit was from your efforts? Or was it just a combination of questioning things of your faith because you felt no peace or answers as to why you couldn't live up to catholic standards? Trying to understand how one loses the faith as I felt it was my faith that sustained me in my darkest hours even though I felt I was handing by a thread...I feel for you at the same time because I felt at the deepest darkest hour ...I feel bad because you say you felt God left you...I know you may not care for people to say this...but I have been offering all my thoughts prayer and sufferings for you...I am so dumb and have no theology back ground but when you speak I can hear your thought process so clearly...you have a gift in speaking... Also, another question...Did you have a devotion to any saint in particular...I am curious in all this because of how you portray things because you are vulnerable in speaking your mind which many catholics don't. I feel like after my abuse I am more open about my feelings and emotions...because I feel it is a way to sort them out by talking about them...so many times...people try to silence me with their sspx rhetoric...so I sympathize with you and understand how people seem to not help when you have questions and say you shouldn't question...but yet they have no answers....people asked me how I kept the faith after my abuse...and I say...I don't know...
Thank you for your frankness. The cause of the loss of faith? I am not 100% sure. I can look at particular elements, but the main cause isn’t very clear. The lack of clear direction from the age of 15 has something to do it, as well as the misdirection which ultimately led me towards the priesthood, has its part. But I think it goes deeper. I never put all my faith in people... I could easily look past the insufficiency of humanity. But the root of the faith is God... and I reached the limit of my capacity to “be a follower.” I hope to explore this more and more in time. The reality is, that before I believed and now I don’t, and it’s not from maliciousness on my part. Let’s see what happens.
In formal logic the burden of proof is always on the person making the claim. What Schmitz and Jackie Angel are doing is a sophisticated shifting of the burden of proof. Faith is a "gift," and if you lose it then it is *your* fault. You either didn't "maintain" your faith or gave it away. Because "Father" Schmitz knows best, he has no burden to prove that Catholicism is true much less prove the existence of any sort of divine being. Rather, it's the poor "fallen away" Catholic's burden to prove why their leaving the church is justified. This is what my parents did when I told them I did not want to go to confirmation because I had doubts. My doubts were caused by the fact that I never received proper religious education - never mind that it was *their* job to send to me religious classes, which they never did. But all of this could be cleared up by taking a once a week confirmation prep class. Needless to say, it didn't work.
I have never been Catholic. Until I was about 12 my family was not religious. My oldest brother was "saved" when he was 18 and became an Independent Fundamental Baptist. I was 12 at this time and the rest of my family followed my brother into the IFB. I was "saved" that same year and my family was "all in" on the fundamental Baptist. My brother went to bible college and became a baptist preacher. Fast forward 10 years and my brother question his faith and decided the Catholic Church was the right church and he and his family converted.After about 2 years they found the SSPX. My parents converted also. That was 30 years ago. Five years ago they moved to St.Marys. I question my faith about 12 years ago after hearing my SSPX family talk about how Mormons,JWs,Muslims and every religion besides there's was wrong. I asked myself why is your faith better than any other religion persons faith in their respective religions. I realized for the most part people mostly become what ever religion was the most practiced where they were from.I also came to the realization that I didn't believe any of them were true. I am now an agnostic atheist . I am open to belief if I see credible evidence for a god. I haven't so far. Well I guess that I rambled a bit.
Check out StreetMinistries Seven! My faith in God grew when I saw him (God) actually do things in people's lives. + There's archaeological evidence (corals formed in the shape of chariot wheels at the bottom of the red sea, and also the euphrates river is drying up just like Revelation 16:12 says.)
i am personnaly struggling with my faith. I still believe and try to go to daily masses. But u said u were in a siminary of 7 years. Did u get pushed into that?? I've just compleated my Life Iin e Spirit seminar, and at the end I feel empty and confused!!! The problem is a lot of extreame Catholics invittee people in the front door and then shove people out the 3rd floor window in trying to make everyone perfect!!!!! There are a lot of good priests out there. You obviously believed at one time, and feel deepy hurt by your experiences. I suggest you start again from the begining...but not let yourself get PUSHED into everything. Go to a Sunday mass and maybe talk to a Priest who you can trust. Tell him how you really feel. There are understanding priests out there.
Dear Francis Palmquist, i have 2 questions for you if you don't mind. Question N°1 : if I understand your vidéo, you were facing very difficults moments, trying to go on with the catholic faith and one day, you thought you were an hypocrit to say you still believed in god. Am I right ? You thought you were alone and no god by your side ? Then it seems to you more authentic, more true to say that you didn’t have faith anymore ? You suffered extremly when you where priest and having a double gay life ? (Sorry my english is not so good maybe I didn't really understood what you said. Please help me in that case) Question N°2 : Did you received the catholic knowledge that immortality of the soul is a philosophical conclusion and not a religious belief. I mean : catholic church teach that our souls are immortals but she say that a simple philosoph can discover it. Do you agree with that ? I am french, living in Paris, France, Europe.
I wasn't as involved or entrenched in the doctrines as others including Frances but I came to see, back in the day, that thinking along these lines -- forcing myself to make mental contortions to assent to certain beliefs...including that my potential afterlife outcome related to the assent to narratives that seemed illogical but were yet firmly unquestionable -- was not healthy for me. It does not bring life, or make life more livable. It does quite the opposite. Also when you examine the nature of belief itself (is it conscious? subconscious? unconscious?), you come to see that standing in resistance to "what is" in the world around you (i.e. the actions of others, the beliefs of others) is not productive or wise.
Question was the community of traditional Catholics you were part of self-defeating in that their founder signed off on all of the Vatican II documents (including liturgical reforms) and later went into schism from the Catholic church?
Hi Francis, I wanted to tell you I enjoy watching your videos, you & your partner and Aslan and deli are adorable❣️ I hope you’ll all the happiness 😊. I’m sure being a Priest wasn’t easy, I’ve known 2 Priest in my life, one at a Catholic girl school, and the other when I needed soul searching help. The priest at the girl school gave me the creeps! He would watch the girl’s butts as they came into the class and when they left. He smoked cigarettes too! I thought this was outrageous of a priest to act like a regular man; and then I realized , he is still a man & human! I had priests on a pedestal, and I was wrong to do that. The other priest I came to in need of help as a woman. He was very helpful and filled me with spiritual food😊 I’m sorry the other priests weren’t there for you like they should have been! Our journey on this earth is short, and you have to search for what is good for you; that what I believe God wants for us all anyway, others sometimes get in the way of that and we do it to ourselves. My father tried to raise us, smiling in people’s faces, then talking about them behind their backs. Especially gay people! Not my mom, her bestie was gay, and right next door was my best friend, and her mother was gay. Carol & I once fooled around to see if we were gay, but neither of us were. That’s ok, I still am down with gay people, just people, trying to make it too! I’m a sinner, but I Love God❤️. I try and read the Bible and understand it as well. I think mankind are the ones that make religion so difficult. I try and follow the 10 Commandments and treat others how I’d like to be treated; plus Love one another 💗
Thank you so much for opening up like that. I appreciate your candidness and giving me a chance!! It’s amazing the process that we go through in life - and I know that I am just beginning. 😊
I don’t think listening to these two “polished” individuals, would help me return to the Faith if I had lost it. What I believe would help someone, is listening to a grittier story, such as when you interviewed Joseph S. Someone who is convinced of his Faith, despite suffering at the hands of one of the clergy. A wise gentleman said to me recently, something along these lines, “I love Christ, I just can’t stand Christians” . I think I am starting to understand the point he was making.
In this way you create your Egoic religion. As Bernanos says, my church is the Church of the saints. Unfortunately, or fortunately, the church carries sinners like me in it.
@@HB-ej6iq yes!!! We Catholics are so very flawed, yet God saw us from eternity and loved us! He made us because of his love, we are unique to Him.The Catholic Church will help us in our journey.
@@siennaalexander8902 in brazil the number of Protestants called "unchurched" and Catholics who do not go to Mass is growing. I see it as a loss of a sense of community and an increase in individualism. I used to see defects in everyone, today I see my defects first and I only try to see the quality of others. Father Francis / Judas, for example, has his mission. I just think he should be clearer about his "congregation"
I need to say something to you. You were a schismatic SSPX. You were in schism so you can't talk about Catholicism, just about your sect. I pray that you will be well. But you need to be clear about your "congregation"
HB as Charles Coulomb says, try to find canonical regular Latin Mass or Anglican Ordinariate. Then, seek out a good Novus Ordo. After that, the Eastern Rites beacon (I go to the Byzantine Liturgy myself). If it comes down to the SSPX and tamborines, "well, you can't take your family to tamborines!"
@@robert1453 I have nothing against FSSPX. But I find it weird that he avoided speaking as if he were a regular priest of the Church. As if the FSSPX was not so specific.
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DAMG dude, as a 23 year old ex Catholic with a devout family, Jackie Angel and Fr. Mike Schmitz were some of my family’s favorite speakers. They’re a good place to start goin “hold up, what?” To. I’m trying to find good guides through my religious deconstruction so I don’t go full angry atheist, but I can’t relate to a lot of evangelicals. I don’t have flat earth or young earth or “being saved” or creationism to let go of. My education was full of sound science, for the most part. I really need a specifically Catholic perspective. Also the Fr. Mike video popped up first when I searched “losing your faith as a Catholic” and I was flooded with pain. Thank you so much for your videos, I appreciate you so much. (Lmao almost said God Bless but not sure if I believe in him anymore)
Thanks for addressing this. People are vulnerable to these apparently well-put-together, self-confident men in cassocks, who speak as though what they say is both reasonable and indisputable. One of the common aspects of cult/high-control groups is they teach that if there is a flaw or failure, it's always the fault of the individual who left. In fact, many of the most devoted individuals are the ones who find out it's all a sham. If you take a circular, hypocritical system of beliefs seriously enough, you're more likely to find out that in the end (no matter how hard you try and beg for help), it's just inherently flawed.
It does make it easier to understand a religious (or any type of) system, when one takes it seriously and actually attempts to apply it in their life. That’s for sure.
Thank you for the videos. I was raised SSPX and attended the Academy in Saint Mary’s from 4th grade to graduation. My wife went even longer than I did. Over a period of about 10 years of serious questioning and study it became clear that the claims of Catholicism in general have no more grounding in reality, nor evidence, than any other religion. Faith can be utilized to justify any belief system. I might add that my initial studies were an attempt to reinforce my faith and inoculate myself against those who would challenge it. I applaud your bravery and really appreciate your videos. Contrary to what many believers would assume I have experienced peace and contentment much more than I ever did as a faithful Catholic. I hope you have experienced the same.
Thank you for your support and sharing your experience. Although I cannot deny those times of peace that I experienced in religion, I can say that now I too have a peace. At least that I am where I should be for the present time...
I think you should tune into Bishop Robert Baron and his talks on Word on Fire. And tune into what Pope Francis preaches ( who is rejected by the SSPX and Church Militant and other crazies. I think you have been driven away the crazy fringes of Catholicism. You are a good and great Catholic my friend.
Losing your faith is a sort of hellish existence. I am there. I hate it.
I don't know yet how it is for me. This Easter was hard. I still go to church because I am afraid to say my doubts to my family.
I don't know. It's weird. I was hoping that somehow my faith would come back if I receive sacraments as always.
I don't know.
My last cofession was weird. I cried. I couldn't even tell what was really wrong. I didn't have the proper words. I am kinda sorry for that priest who didn't know what to say.
And later I tried to hide my tears. Because I didn't want to worry my mother.
I feel like an impostor.
I am thankful that I can at least talk about this with my boyfriend.
I am lost.
I don't know.
And it's tempting to deconstruct all of this and see only the bad things.
But I guess it's like that because previously I didn't let any thoughts of criticisms of the church seriously.
It's hard to believe that anyone who believes that one would give up or let go of their faith has ever really had their faith truly tested. The people that Ascension Presents is speaking of aren't people I'd understand as having lost their faith, rather they lost a certain practice. Losing your faith, really losing it, implies that you had it in the first place and for many that translated into a deeply rooted prayer life, and a willingness to go the whole way and follow the teachings of the church, no matter how difficult.
I can't speak for others in the ex-Catholic community, but for myself, I didn't lose my faith: it left me, so to speak, and I fought very hard, kicking and screaming, to keep it. I make the comparison to death. It was like dying the death of a thousand cuts or a thousand unanswered prayers. The more I looked for God the more emptiness and pain and abandonment and rejection I found. In the beginning as I realized I was losing that faith, I fought so hard to keep it through prayer and reading and meditation and study, and it was this very desperate attempt to keep it which finally opened my eyes to the realization that there is no God, at least not in the Judeo-Christian sense - no personal loving saviour. I looked so hard for him and found nothing but the realization that if there was a God and he cared about me or wanted me too, then I would have found him by then. What a realization that was. I felt like a meaningless mass of organic molecules arbitrarily arranged together for a brief point in time, adrift on a cosmic ocean without purpose or direction. The trauma of losing everything I believed in, everything my life had revolved around drove me to the brink of suicide; I ended up on medication, in therapy, trying different modalities of treatment in order to remain a "practicing Catholic". Feeling then like a child of a lesser God, I went to numerous priests, spent countless hours praying even when that prayer cost me so much more than time. If only I could have found God, found faith again, I would have given up everything to stay with him.
So no, Fr. Mike, I didn't leave my faith, it left me. He may have blue eyes and fast-talking, pithy sayings regarding those who have left the community, but what does he know? Very little, apparently. He's speaking to a group that likes to hear that those who have "failed" did so because something was inherently wrong with them: not the group, not the dogma, not the doctrine, not the deity, but them. It's a very comfortable bubble to live in because it doesn't require you to shift perspective or ask difficult questions or face difficult problems that might require a radical change in oneself.
I can definitely relate to a lot of what you said. 😔😔😔
Yes
I fail probably everyday but i know that the next day god doesn't give up on me and is working on me. I don't give up on him as i still feel his love in my life maybe that is what faith to me. I am not perfect but we aready knew that
It is important to understand that there are three theological virtues (Faith, Hope, and Love). I did not hear the other two discussed. St. Paul pointed out the the greatest was Love. So you have different religions or "realities" to choose from. Only one presents us with a God who Loves us infinitely so much as to suffer for us. To me life would be sad with any other reality that does not include Jesus - the Jesus of the Catholic Faith.
St. Theresa of Avila points out that the spiritual life is a refining of our Love for God. God is a prudent fiancee and will make sure he has a worthy spouse before being Wedded. Marriages between a man and a woman can go two ways and we see that a successful marriage involves loving a spouse for their sake and not yours. So many marriages fail because a spouse expected certain things in return. A form of self-love. The Catholic Faith teaches that Heaven is void of self-love among creatures and that our mortal life is an opportunity to purge ourselves of self-love. Lucifer loved himself whereas St. Michael understood that God was his first beginning and last end. Pride is just a form of self-love.
The Catholic Faith is a beautiful Faith that teaches us to Love God by living a life of Virtue. Jesus teaches us that his Yoke or Burden is light and actually sweet. Just as a devoted husband finds joy in making extreme sacrifices for his spouse so Saints embraced extreme suffering and even martyrdom with joy. I highly recommend the Sinner's Guide by The Venerable Louis of Granada.
"And if I should have prophecy and should know all mysteries, and all knowledge, and if I should have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing."
1 Corinthians 13:2
"Peter do you Love me?"
John 21:15
Our Brother. You said in a previous video regarding your sexuality that you had no growing-up life crises. We don't always recognize them as such. Around five I realized Ma never told me she loved me. Never joyfully embraced me, or anyone. I asked, Ma, 'do you love me'? How does a mom not easily feel love for any 5 year old boy? She protested 'That's kid stuff'! Three times I persisted. 'But Ma, do you love me? Say it.' Ma didn't feel enabled. Poor Ma. No hard feelings. Tragically she was never enabled by her life's crazy quirks on HOW to reach into understanding the HOW TO of ever believe loving her own real Life given INNATE self. Some are handed it so easily. Life bequeathed many of Ma's 'NON-CRISES' empty 'reminders'. You say you felt in seminary an IMMENSE emptiness? Our buddy, some immense childhood emptiness is hiding you from you. Your stated sexuality, I believe, hides still more in self-substitution of loss. One can deeply wonder why you wanted to become priest. Did you think you fell in love with Christ? Did He inspire you to think that if you went looking to Him for your like He would you both would find a lost self? There are only 3 (tumultuous) years left. Uncover, unfetter your real self. Already Noah be jammin' planks into the windees. The universe is matter, brainlessly bound by laws of mere inter-dependency. It's not mind, not spirit, not god. No. YOU prove cosmic ancient dumb paganism, shortly again about to be disproved. You have brains, son of God. Find how to embody your own inner real self not further displacing with 'better' substitutes filling inner imaging for more 'immense emptiness'. Immeasurable loss of your real self discovered too late is an emptiness Unending. And yikes, am I itching to give your social symptoms haircut! Sorry. You sort of resemble that priest you're misunderstanding here. You make funny facial expressions like he does. I think I'm going to rather read a book of how you uncovered your real self. Someone should write one.
I have lots of doubts. But what about the arguments for a necessary being? and who is Jesus?
Ok, the lady from Ascension Presents seems more like she is talking to a person considering converting to The Faith than she is talking to a person losing the Faith.
However, they do have very good videos on there sometimes.
I agree with what you are saying here though. This was what I saw in Evangelical Christianty as well, what I call "fluffy pancakes" Christianty. I was never an Evangelical Christian but at the end of my search/journey I realized that if I had been raised a typical hardcore Evangelical Christian I very likely would have apostasized....(the thought terrified me at the time😅) too many issues one of which was a severe lack of grit that ran 100% contrary with my experiences with God; and mind you this particular issue looked different within the different flavors of Evangelical Christianty.
I find your videos very funny sometimes though🤣, I don't know if that is appropriate, given the seemingly dark undertone?? topics??
Francis, I want you to know I am still praying for you.
I just realized she's actually talking about people who leave the Church to go to say Protestant churches with "easier Teachings"; or leave because of the scandals in the Church. She's not necessarily talking about people who lose or are losing faith (completely different animal).
That makes her commentary make more sense!
17:43 - 17:50 Technically, it wasn't.
I lost my faith some times but in one in particular, it was nothing related to me choosing not to believe, but with grief, I lost the person I loved the most...the pain was too strong, with time...my faith came back when I started to make peace with my circumstances...I was not Catholic enough, ok...
I believe in God, not anymore in the Catholic way because yes,I cannot agree with the scandals, teachings on homosexuality, women ordination, contraception... So I suppose, I chose not to use my faith?? I'm horrible!! 😂 I'm happier, although still fearing things I learned from that path.
Sounds like you are just trying your best! Keep doing that!! ❤️
Check out Word on Fire- Bishop Robert Baron. He is a breathe of fresh air.
Hes a douche bag and a shill
Francis, I have been following your videos, as I said before, I have so many questions for you...
How did you get bypass the fact of faith in the dark...you speak of a crisis that happened. The crisis that may have been the straw that broke the camel's back...do you feel your faith was slowly being lost bit by bit because people didn't seem to know how to help you and you felt you you tried so hard and no fruit was from your efforts? Or was it just a combination of questioning things of your faith because you felt no peace or answers as to why you couldn't live up to catholic standards? Trying to understand how one loses the faith as I felt it was my faith that sustained me in my darkest hours even though I felt I was handing by a thread...I feel for you at the same time because I felt at the deepest darkest hour ...I feel bad because you say you felt God left you...I know you may not care for people to say this...but I have been offering all my thoughts prayer and sufferings for you...I am so dumb and have no theology back ground but when you speak I can hear your thought process so clearly...you have a gift in speaking...
Also, another question...Did you have a devotion to any saint in particular...I am curious in all this because of how you portray things because you are vulnerable in speaking your mind which many catholics don't. I feel like after my abuse I am more open about my feelings and emotions...because I feel it is a way to sort them out by talking about them...so many times...people try to silence me with their sspx rhetoric...so I sympathize with you and understand how people seem to not help when you have questions and say you shouldn't question...but yet they have no answers....people asked me how I kept the faith after my abuse...and I say...I don't know...
Thank you for your frankness.
The cause of the loss of faith? I am not 100% sure. I can look at particular elements, but the main cause isn’t very clear. The lack of clear direction from the age of 15 has something to do it, as well as the misdirection which ultimately led me towards the priesthood, has its part. But I think it goes deeper. I never put all my faith in people... I could easily look past the insufficiency of humanity. But the root of the faith is God... and I reached the limit of my capacity to “be a follower.”
I hope to explore this more and more in time. The reality is, that before I believed and now I don’t, and it’s not from maliciousness on my part. Let’s see what happens.
In formal logic the burden of proof is always on the person making the claim. What Schmitz and Jackie Angel are doing is a sophisticated shifting of the burden of proof. Faith is a "gift," and if you lose it then it is *your* fault. You either didn't "maintain" your faith or gave it away. Because "Father" Schmitz knows best, he has no burden to prove that Catholicism is true much less prove the existence of any sort of divine being. Rather, it's the poor "fallen away" Catholic's burden to prove why their leaving the church is justified. This is what my parents did when I told them I did not want to go to confirmation because I had doubts. My doubts were caused by the fact that I never received proper religious education - never mind that it was *their* job to send to me religious classes, which they never did. But all of this could be cleared up by taking a once a week confirmation prep class. Needless to say, it didn't work.
I have never been Catholic. Until I was about 12 my family was not religious. My oldest brother was "saved" when he was 18 and became an Independent Fundamental Baptist. I was 12 at this time and the rest of my family followed my brother into the IFB. I was "saved" that same year and my family was "all in" on the fundamental Baptist. My brother went to bible college and became a baptist preacher. Fast forward 10 years and my brother question his faith and decided the Catholic Church was the right church and he and his family converted.After about 2 years they found the SSPX. My parents converted also. That was 30 years ago. Five years ago they moved to St.Marys. I question my faith about 12 years ago after hearing my SSPX family talk about how Mormons,JWs,Muslims and every religion besides there's was wrong. I asked myself why is your faith better than any other religion persons faith in their respective religions. I realized for the most part people mostly become what ever religion was the most practiced where they were from.I also came to the realization that I didn't believe any of them were true. I am now an agnostic atheist . I am open to belief if I see credible evidence for a god. I haven't so far. Well I guess that I rambled a bit.
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My faith in God grew when I saw him (God) actually do things in people's lives.
+ There's archaeological evidence (corals formed in the shape of chariot wheels at the bottom of the red sea, and also the euphrates river is drying up just like Revelation 16:12 says.)
i am personnaly struggling with my faith.
I still believe and try to go to daily masses. But u said u were in a siminary of 7 years. Did u get pushed into that??
I've just compleated my Life Iin e Spirit seminar, and at the end I feel empty and confused!!!
The problem is a lot of extreame Catholics invittee people in the front door and then shove people out the 3rd floor window in trying to make everyone perfect!!!!!
There are a lot of good priests out there.
You obviously believed at one time, and feel deepy hurt by your experiences.
I suggest you start again from the begining...but not let yourself get PUSHED into everything.
Go to a Sunday mass and maybe talk to a Priest who you can trust. Tell him how you really feel.
There are understanding priests out there.
Ok my question is did you completely stop believing in god period or the just the catholic religion?
Dear Francis Palmquist, i have 2 questions for you if you don't mind. Question N°1 : if I understand your vidéo, you were facing very difficults moments, trying to go on with the catholic faith and one day, you thought you were an hypocrit to say you still believed in god. Am I right ? You thought you were alone and no god by your side ? Then it seems to you more authentic, more true to say that you didn’t have faith anymore ? You suffered extremly when you where priest and having a double gay life ? (Sorry my english is not so good maybe I didn't really understood what you said. Please help me in that case) Question N°2 : Did you received the catholic knowledge that immortality of the soul is a philosophical conclusion and not a religious belief. I mean : catholic church teach that our souls are immortals but she say that a simple philosoph can discover it. Do you agree with that ? I am french, living in Paris, France, Europe.
I wasn't as involved or entrenched in the doctrines as others including Frances but I came to see, back in the day, that thinking along these lines -- forcing myself to make mental contortions to assent to certain beliefs...including that my potential afterlife outcome related to the assent to narratives that seemed illogical but were yet firmly unquestionable -- was not healthy for me. It does not bring life, or make life more livable. It does quite the opposite. Also when you examine the nature of belief itself (is it conscious? subconscious? unconscious?), you come to see that standing in resistance to "what is" in the world around you (i.e. the actions of others, the beliefs of others) is not productive or wise.
Question was the community of traditional Catholics you were part of self-defeating in that their founder signed off on all of the Vatican II documents (including liturgical reforms) and later went into schism from the Catholic church?
All the “super Catholics” really turn me off.
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Hi Francis, I wanted to tell you I enjoy watching your videos, you & your partner and Aslan and deli are adorable❣️
I hope you’ll all the happiness 😊.
I’m sure being a Priest wasn’t easy, I’ve known 2 Priest in my life, one at a Catholic girl school, and the other when I needed soul searching help.
The priest at the girl school gave me the creeps! He would watch the girl’s butts as they came into the class and when they left.
He smoked cigarettes too! I thought this was outrageous of a priest to act like a regular man; and then I realized , he is still a man & human! I had priests on a pedestal, and I was wrong to do that.
The other priest I came to in need of help as a woman. He was very helpful and filled me with spiritual food😊
I’m sorry the other priests weren’t there for you like they should have been!
Our journey on this earth is short, and you have to search for what is good for you; that what I believe God wants for us all anyway, others sometimes get in the way of that and we do it to ourselves.
My father tried to raise us, smiling in people’s faces, then talking about them behind their backs. Especially gay people!
Not my mom, her bestie was gay, and right next door was my best friend, and her mother was gay. Carol & I once fooled around to see if we were gay, but neither of us were. That’s ok, I still am down with gay people, just people, trying to make it too!
I’m a sinner, but I Love God❤️. I try and read the Bible and understand it as well. I think mankind are the ones that make religion so difficult. I try and follow the 10 Commandments and treat others how I’d like to be treated; plus Love one another 💗
Thank you so much for opening up like that. I appreciate your candidness and giving me a chance!! It’s amazing the process that we go through in life - and I know that I am just beginning. 😊
Maybe gave up too soon💔💔💔 say the Rosary Frances
You don’t understand.
I don’t think listening to these two “polished” individuals, would help me return to the Faith if I had lost it. What I believe would help someone, is listening to a grittier story, such as when you interviewed Joseph S. Someone who is convinced of his Faith, despite suffering at the hands of one of the clergy. A wise gentleman said to me recently, something along these lines, “I love Christ, I just can’t stand Christians” . I think I am starting to understand the point he was making.
In this way you create your Egoic religion. As Bernanos says, my church is the Church of the saints. Unfortunately, or fortunately, the church carries sinners like me in it.
@@HB-ej6iq yes!!! We Catholics are so very flawed, yet God saw us from eternity and loved us! He made us because of his love, we are unique to Him.The Catholic Church will help us in our journey.
@@siennaalexander8902 in brazil the number of Protestants called "unchurched" and Catholics who do not go to Mass is growing. I see it as a loss of a sense of community and an increase in individualism. I used to see defects in everyone, today I see my defects first and I only try to see the quality of others. Father Francis / Judas, for example, has his mission. I just think he should be clearer about his "congregation"
I need to say something to you. You were a schismatic SSPX. You were in schism so you can't talk about Catholicism, just about your sect. I pray that you will be well. But you need to be clear about your "congregation"
😂🤣... thanks for telling me. I guess I’ll stop talking about it. 😂🤣
@@iamjudasproject I don't think you should stop. I even think you should go on, but being honest saying you were schismatic
HB as Charles Coulomb says, try to find canonical regular Latin Mass or Anglican Ordinariate. Then, seek out a good Novus Ordo. After that, the Eastern Rites beacon (I go to the Byzantine Liturgy myself). If it comes down to the SSPX and tamborines, "well, you can't take your family to tamborines!"
@Libby Penn No, I don't. But cardinal Burke does it
@@robert1453 I have nothing against FSSPX. But I find it weird that he avoided speaking as if he were a regular priest of the Church. As if the FSSPX was not so specific.