It was so healing to hear you speak today! I am in tears tonight and so thankful!! No one in the sspx, meaning hierarchy or priest have spoken and you have come forward and gave a voice to us! I can't thank you enough!
This is why I chose the profession I did, and specialize in trauma and spiritual abuse... Because when these victims finally come out, they literally have no support system and have lost their identity as an individual... Because everything they once believed has shattered right in their face...
@@christineplaton3048 Thank you! I am so sorry to hear that you and that other person are left picking up the pieces of your life they shattered... I have found EMDR works wonders for the victims I work with... I strongly recommend you finding someone who does EMDR in your area to help you heal... 💕💕💕
@Resilient Empathy, sigh. Not all therapists are of the same caliber. Many problemic types including troublesome. We are definitely challenged every way imaginable. If you know of anyone to recommend in the Western NY area please let me know. I'm isolated, marginalized, getting older, very frustrated and have zero for a life. I need a friendly support network, and was hoping to build one. I don't know where to turn for assistance. Catholic Charities here didn't work out for me.
@@christineplaton3048 I completely agree... I am definitely an odd one out in my field... I am only familiar with therapist in the midwest... But I will pray you stumble upon what you need soon! That is why I recommend EMDR though, because you do not share much of anything with the therapist, just various levels of trauma... I have helped a number of men with sexual abuse, because they never had to go into detail about what happened to them... EMDR focuses on emotional/mental scaring on a cellular level... It is amazing!
Even if a priest has an affair with an adult in the parish it can still count as abuse. Since the priests are seen as community leaders and mentors they are immediately in a position of power over the other person. Consent is iffy at best when an individual is expected to obey and follow the directions of a priest at all times. An adult can be victimized too. Thank you for the video!
@@iamjudasproject Absolutely! 👏 Because these allegations are so horrific they ought to be treated Very seriously. Instead, the victim blaming, misinformation, and silencing contribute to the horror of the situation.
I grew up in SSP. Went to College in St Marys KS. Mass in hotel rooms from "real" priests. Its very hard to understand this without the experience. . The humility to be compassionate and speak out against religious dogmas that are unhealthy is expressed here. From the bottom of my heart - thank you for your work. I saw the good and the unhealthy up close -- and see it now from a distance. Many thanks. May we all be willing to find truth without arrogance. jean
It’s never as it seems... Trusting people has always been an issue to me. 💔 There are so many hypocrites & mediocre people I have met in my lifetime, I’ve almost given up on humanity. I grew up with parents who hid behind religion to get away with their intentions behind their curtain. Being mentally, emotionally, physically & spiritually abused by them on a day to day basis, one Puritan mentality they forced onto me was that sex was a necessary evil imposed upon us. Everything was a sin, there was no way out. I was reminded I was going to hell on a daily basis. Beauty was vain & worldly, happiness was sinful... you had to be forlorn to be a good Catholic. I fought years of severe depression & suicidal thoughts growing up, hanging onto hope. And they made sure to engrain all their convictions into me in everything I did, in order to cover up my innocent eyes & heart trying so hard to be a good girl, their scapegoat, from the wrong doing they were committing themselves in their dirty closets. Not being taught the concepts of procreation, to prepare one’s self for life & it’s choices are detrimental scars you carry within yourself... They do throw you in a huge bubble - a “very” scary bubble - you have to figure out on your own. It’s been a very long journey but your story here echos out so much confirmation of those communities. To bring ignorance & vulnerability from past scars into your marriage is traumatizing, if that makes sense. 💔 You have to find a way to try to deal with it. To deal with that throughout & to try to find a way to heal... You find yourself still drinking in the poison you ran away from, trying to protect yourself away from it, but it’s so engrained... The psychological damage they’ve done is still there, affecting whatever I do... The mind is so powerful to either crush you down or bring you back up & keep going... Abuse of all kinds is such a dark topic... And when you are severely molested, do these parents accuse the predator who charmingly entered her “innocent” life??? No :’( It’s the ignorant girl’s fault who “somehow” should have known better, even though she knew nothing to protect herself. 💔😔 Those scars are still as fresh as if yesterday...
The more I hear stories come out, the more I realize I’m not alone, as I thought for so long that I was in my small world of a bubble... 💔 There are others who have been manipulated & groomed into their twisted way, having their innocent hearts violated & torn by those whom they have trusted; & instead taken advantage of & abused, even by an authoritative position. They prey on the innocent as weak targets... Families - parents - should be the ones to protect you. Fathers should be the safeguard for their little girls... It seems like a cycle of narcissism everywhere... Gaslighting is a common tactic now. The after effects of molestation are horrible, relentless nightmares... that are not easy to go away just like that. 💔💔💔
I finally realized the reason why this journey has been so lonely for so long... It’s because - just as it has been confirmed & said on these series, SO true: you CANNOT talk about sex among Catholics!! Even in a decent way - it’s a “no-no!!” A “no-no word”! So all your concerns & “violations”, molestations you have to keep silent to yourself 😣 You are alone. You become a walking zombie because you cannot say the “s” word. It’s forbidden. 🤫 Then you feel like you’re going to throw the bomb if you say something that’s bothering you... 😢💔
Thanks for all your work Francis. Some Catholics I know are turning to the SSPX as the perfect, pure solution to the beleaguered Novus Ordo with its McCarricks. Keep going -- we'll keep watching. ✨✨✨
SXPP is not perfect but they are one of the only ones who are truly following the Catholic faith. At Novus Ordo things happen a thousand times worse and more scandalous than at any SXPP institution.
Man! I grew up in the same society, I feel fortunate that I didn't go through any of that. Just seeing see how the Catht Church through oppression of sexuality breeds obsession of sexuality. It's so counterintuitive and messed up!
It's not the community, it's the philosophy and issues with the clericalism in the SSPX community itself. So, because it's an SSPX community, you probably need to steer clear. Beautiful sound liturgy doesn't equal holiness or sanctity, sad to say.
Parents need to wake the hell up and realize that these men wearing cassocks and collars and saying the Latin Mass are born with original sin too. You are spot on in stating that the faithful giving these priests the benefit of the doubt to a fault allows for this abuse of their own flesh and blood. I blame the faithful and Superiors for all of these horrific stories being exposed.
We can share these videos over our personal Facebook or Instagram pages as well! Let’s get this out !!!!! I was a victim and i was an adult when it happened, not a child, doesn’t matter but this priest told me he struggled with pornography and that shocked me even though he was doing things worse it still shocked me.
What's so deeply frustrating with "marriage prep" in rad-trad communities is that they completely ignore not only basic psychology (and, you know, the fact that the older generations they idolize grew up on farms with animals breeding and women giving birth at home...THEY KNEW WHAT SEX WAS) but any Catholic theology after 1960. And there's a lot about how sex is good, and integrating your sexuality into a healthy life. It didn't stop after freaking Casti Connubi- even by Catholic standards, they're pretty repressed. Anyway. Finding lots to identify with here. ALL sects of the Church have a heck of a lot of housecleaning and soul searching to do with managing abuse cases and recognizing them. And not treating victims like crap in the aftermath.
Thanks for emphasizing that this is an issue with CATHOLIC priests in general. Sadly any of the SSPXrs are acknowledging that SSPX priests are the common denominator are turning to Catholicism from the Vatican as the solution. 🙄🙄 Nooooo you’re missing what the actual cause and effect is here honey!!! It ain’t just SSPX. As if they don’t know the rest of the Catholic Church was exposed a long time ago . 😎😎😎 Ray Charles
You are sweating and your eyes are dilated...Not sure you are telling the truth. I am not Catholic, but I see the signs. "Let's just look, and see what's happening", as you say... I'm not so sure.
Yes, the priest whom Francis speaks of yes, abused his power and groomed...I have heard this many times within the sspx...it isn't a rarity ...and it is a problem ...and they do end up just dropping here and there like Francis has stated! 😭
If that priest is not, there are definitely more... They are EVERYWHERE!! For every 1 that is exposed, there are at LEAST 5 more in that area... They learn from each other's mistakes and will even cover for each other... It is far a greater organized system than people realize...
He's the ideal image of a maniacal Judas priest and is the example Jassy Jacas and Christine Niles of Church Militant hold up for admiration on their respective FB pages. Whoever believes what he says is the TRUTH certainly has the devil's wool pulled over their eyes.
Ooooo the vile Susan Matthiesen, the woman who writes whole blog posts of putrid lies, and verbal diarrhea in order to defend the disgusting predator priest Duverger. So many lies the blog post had to be taken down. Whose working for satan? Definitely not the people who listen to and support the victims of sex abuse. More like old women who have nothing better to do than defend predator priests and shame and condemn the victims. Get a life Susan...
Susan, you on the other hand have made a mockery of the victims coming out. Francis has spoken very well on this and stands up for the victims. Susan you are merely here for curiosity and don't really care for those who have suffered.
For the readers: this was a “joke.” I was just calling out a bluff. Don’t worry, I won’t demand you to believe me because I am a “representative of God.” If you believe me, it is because what I say is provably true. ❤️
It was so healing to hear you speak today! I am in tears tonight and so thankful!! No one in the sspx, meaning hierarchy or priest have spoken and you have come forward and gave a voice to us! I can't thank you enough!
This is why I chose the profession I did, and specialize in trauma and spiritual abuse... Because when these victims finally come out, they literally have no support system and have lost their identity as an individual... Because everything they once believed has shattered right in their face...
Resilient Empathy. We need people like you. There are two of us, separated by miles...with children....broken marriages...lost it all, yes. WNY
@@christineplaton3048 Thank you! I am so sorry to hear that you and that other person are left picking up the pieces of your life they shattered... I have found EMDR works wonders for the victims I work with... I strongly recommend you finding someone who does EMDR in your area to help you heal... 💕💕💕
@Resilient Empathy, sigh. Not all therapists are of the same caliber. Many problemic types including troublesome. We are definitely challenged every way imaginable. If you know of anyone to recommend in the Western NY area please let me know. I'm isolated, marginalized, getting older, very frustrated and have zero for a life. I need a friendly support network, and was hoping to build one. I don't know where to turn for assistance. Catholic Charities here didn't work out for me.
@@christineplaton3048 I completely agree... I am definitely an odd one out in my field... I am only familiar with therapist in the midwest... But I will pray you stumble upon what you need soon! That is why I recommend EMDR though, because you do not share much of anything with the therapist, just various levels of trauma... I have helped a number of men with sexual abuse, because they never had to go into detail about what happened to them... EMDR focuses on emotional/mental scaring on a cellular level... It is amazing!
Even if a priest has an affair with an adult in the parish it can still count as abuse.
Since the priests are seen as community leaders and mentors they are immediately in a position of power over the other person. Consent is iffy at best when an individual is expected to obey and follow the directions of a priest at all times. An adult can be victimized too.
Thank you for the video!
I agree. It’s an abuse of power and position. But at least it’s not an innocent child, which adds a whole other sick twisted layer. 🤯
@@iamjudasproject Absolutely! 👏 Because these allegations are so horrific they ought to be treated Very seriously.
Instead, the victim blaming, misinformation, and silencing contribute to the horror of the situation.
Thank you for your honesty and fairness, Francis. Your commitment to speak out in truth is much appreciated!!!
I grew up in SSP. Went to College in St Marys KS. Mass in hotel rooms from "real" priests. Its very hard to understand this without the experience. . The humility to be compassionate and speak out against religious dogmas that are unhealthy is expressed here. From the bottom of my heart - thank you for your work. I saw the good and the unhealthy up close -- and see it now from a distance. Many thanks. May we all be willing to find truth without arrogance. jean
I’m glad you recognize the good & faithful priests!
This is so true, spot on!! 💔😢 It refreshing to hear this... I thought I was crazy... thank you!! ❤️❤️❤️
It’s never as it seems... Trusting people has always been an issue to me. 💔 There are so many hypocrites & mediocre people I have met in my lifetime, I’ve almost given up on humanity. I grew up with parents who hid behind religion to get away with their intentions behind their curtain. Being mentally, emotionally, physically & spiritually abused by them on a day to day basis, one Puritan mentality they forced onto me was that sex was a necessary evil imposed upon us. Everything was a sin, there was no way out. I was reminded I was going to hell on a daily basis. Beauty was vain & worldly, happiness was sinful... you had to be forlorn to be a good Catholic. I fought years of severe depression & suicidal thoughts growing up, hanging onto hope. And they made sure to engrain all their convictions into me in everything I did, in order to cover up my innocent eyes & heart trying so hard to be a good girl, their scapegoat, from the wrong doing they were committing themselves in their dirty closets. Not being taught the concepts of procreation, to prepare one’s self for life & it’s choices are detrimental scars you carry within yourself... They do throw you in a huge bubble - a “very” scary bubble - you have to figure out on your own. It’s been a very long journey but your story here echos out so much confirmation of those communities. To bring ignorance & vulnerability from past scars into your marriage is traumatizing, if that makes sense. 💔 You have to find a way to try to deal with it. To deal with that throughout & to try to find a way to heal... You find yourself still drinking in the poison you ran away from, trying to protect yourself away from it, but it’s so engrained... The psychological damage they’ve done is still there, affecting whatever I do... The mind is so powerful to either crush you down or bring you back up & keep going... Abuse of all kinds is such a dark topic... And when you are severely molested, do these parents accuse the predator who charmingly entered her “innocent” life??? No :’( It’s the ignorant girl’s fault who “somehow” should have known better, even though she knew nothing to protect herself. 💔😔 Those scars are still as fresh as if yesterday...
Oh my goodness! I am so sorry to hear this happened to you! I hope his message has helped and know you are not alone! 😭❤🌹
The more I hear stories come out, the more I realize I’m not alone, as I thought for so long that I was in my small world of a bubble... 💔 There are others who have been manipulated & groomed into their twisted way, having their innocent hearts violated & torn by those whom they have trusted; & instead taken advantage of & abused, even by an authoritative position. They prey on the innocent as weak targets... Families - parents - should be the ones to protect you. Fathers should be the safeguard for their little girls... It seems like a cycle of narcissism everywhere... Gaslighting is a common tactic now. The after effects of molestation are horrible, relentless nightmares... that are not easy to go away just like that. 💔💔💔
💔💔💔😭😭😭
I finally realized the reason why this journey has been so lonely for so long... It’s because - just as it has been confirmed & said on these series, SO true: you CANNOT talk about sex among Catholics!! Even in a decent way - it’s a “no-no!!” A “no-no word”! So all your concerns & “violations”, molestations you have to keep silent to yourself 😣 You are alone. You become a walking zombie because you cannot say the “s” word. It’s forbidden. 🤫 Then you feel like you’re going to throw the bomb if you say something that’s bothering you... 😢💔
Francis! You are on fire!🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Thank you!!!
Thank you!!
Thanks for all your work Francis. Some Catholics I know are turning to the SSPX as the perfect, pure solution to the beleaguered Novus Ordo with its McCarricks. Keep going -- we'll keep watching. ✨✨✨
SXPP is not perfect but they are one of the only ones who are truly following the Catholic faith. At Novus Ordo things happen a thousand times worse and more scandalous than at any SXPP institution.
Man! I grew up in the same society, I feel fortunate that I didn't go through any of that. Just seeing see how the Catht Church through oppression of sexuality breeds obsession of sexuality. It's so counterintuitive and messed up!
Ya ur so right. Look at what sexual liberation has done for America. Let's have more of that.
You are absolutely right in your analysis.
Haha! You made me laugh several times...drinking lemonade...I love your analogy! It fits so perfectly what is going on!
Hi Francis, is the Saint Mary’s Kansas community a dangerous place?
Stay far, far away
@@PeaceLoveRainbows I will but what’s so bad about it?
It's not the community, it's the philosophy and issues with the clericalism in the SSPX community itself. So, because it's an SSPX community, you probably need to steer clear.
Beautiful sound liturgy doesn't equal holiness or sanctity, sad to say.
I'm so grateful for you telling the TRUTH. I want to send you my address but not on a public forum. Do you have a PO box?
You hit a lot of nails on the head with this one.
Parents need to wake the hell up and realize that these men wearing cassocks and collars and saying the Latin Mass are born with original sin too. You are spot on in stating that the faithful giving these priests the benefit of the doubt to a fault allows for this abuse of their own flesh and blood. I blame the faithful and Superiors for all of these horrific stories being exposed.
🙌 My abuser priest tried to go over these things and that he was the only pure one...it was so bad...
I’m so sorry…
I’m so sorry this happened to you @proeis. 😭💔
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This video should have a wider circulation.
There’s only so much I can do alone. 😅
We can share these videos over our personal Facebook or Instagram pages as well! Let’s get this out !!!!! I was a victim and i was an adult when it happened, not a child, doesn’t matter but this priest told me he struggled with pornography and that shocked me even though he was doing things worse it still shocked me.
There also sex abuse in the NO. Protestant churches as week! It not just the SSPX but everywhere & every dominations!
Merci pour cette vidéo !
What's so deeply frustrating with "marriage prep" in rad-trad communities is that they completely ignore not only basic psychology (and, you know, the fact that the older generations they idolize grew up on farms with animals breeding and women giving birth at home...THEY KNEW WHAT SEX WAS) but any Catholic theology after 1960. And there's a lot about how sex is good, and integrating your sexuality into a healthy life. It didn't stop after freaking Casti Connubi- even by Catholic standards, they're pretty repressed.
Anyway. Finding lots to identify with here. ALL sects of the Church have a heck of a lot of housecleaning and soul searching to do with managing abuse cases and recognizing them. And not treating victims like crap in the aftermath.
Thanks for sharing 😀
❤❤❤❤ Loved your video!
Thanks for emphasizing that this is an issue with CATHOLIC priests in general. Sadly any of the SSPXrs are acknowledging that SSPX priests are the common denominator are turning to Catholicism from the Vatican as the solution. 🙄🙄 Nooooo you’re missing what the actual cause and effect is here honey!!! It ain’t just SSPX. As if they don’t know the rest of the Catholic Church was exposed a long time ago . 😎😎😎 Ray Charles
It's all a morbid mess
The priest are supposed to be the “Persona Christi”
the first time i saw real XXX porn/movies was from my SSPX friends. This friend also believe girls only had "one hole down there".
No we don’t see SSPX priest as Gods. I really don’t understand why you became a priest. 😢
You are sweating and your eyes are dilated...Not sure you are telling the truth. I am not Catholic, but I see the signs. "Let's just look, and see what's happening", as you say... I'm not so sure.
He abused his power though....I have seen this time and time again!
🤢🤢🤢🤢 I hope this priest isn't there anymore!
It’s called grooming... 😔 I hope it has been brought to his responsibility to make serious amends for!
Yes, the priest whom Francis speaks of yes, abused his power and groomed...I have heard this many times within the sspx...it isn't a rarity ...and it is a problem ...and they do end up just dropping here and there like Francis has stated! 😭
@@proeis I’m so, so sorry, too... 💔😢
I see it even in families... people you should trust.
Yes! It is an epidemic!
If that priest is not, there are definitely more... They are EVERYWHERE!! For every 1 that is exposed, there are at LEAST 5 more in that area... They learn from each other's mistakes and will even cover for each other... It is far a greater organized system than people realize...
narcissistic story from people happen everywhere across human history. Liberte man..boring
😱😱😱😱
He's the ideal image of a maniacal Judas priest and is the example Jassy Jacas and Christine Niles of Church Militant hold up for admiration on their respective FB pages. Whoever believes what he says is the TRUTH certainly has the devil's wool pulled over their eyes.
Well, if that’s the case, should I take my life? That would seal my “ideal image.”
Ooooo the vile Susan Matthiesen, the woman who writes whole blog posts of putrid lies, and verbal diarrhea in order to defend the disgusting predator priest Duverger. So many lies the blog post had to be taken down. Whose working for satan? Definitely not the people who listen to and support the victims of sex abuse. More like old women who have nothing better to do than defend predator priests and shame and condemn the victims. Get a life Susan...
Susan, you on the other hand have made a mockery of the victims coming out. Francis has spoken very well on this and stands up for the victims. Susan you are merely here for curiosity and don't really care for those who have suffered.
Susan does seem obsessed with these stories for sure...🤢
For the readers: this was a “joke.” I was just calling out a bluff. Don’t worry, I won’t demand you to believe me because I am a “representative of God.” If you believe me, it is because what I say is provably true. ❤️