Gas wars: The problem with Nord Stream 2 - BBC News
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2019
- Nord Stream 2 is the name of the undersea pipeline that should soon pump more Russian gas into Europe.
It is a divisive project within Europe and has infuriated the US, which fears that more Russian gas means more Russian influence and less share of the lucrative European gas market for American liquefied natural gas.
BBC’s Berlin correspondent Jenny Hill has been looking at the issue.
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why would Germany buy overpriced US gas and wait weeks for it to arrive
Exactly and it makes business sense as well.
Because we are crybabies
Yeah, that's not how capitalism works lmao
We buy what we wanna buy
Because it has a freedom scent!!
@@paulhk2727 Monopoly is an integral part of capitalism
Again AMERICA is interfering
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Lol, its more like monopoly, USA doesn’t want EU to use Russia Gas but instead use America in which America profit.
I don't know if it's me but is there any subliminal message of talking about a gas line in Berlin ?
@@thelasttimelord7550 try out the 21 century, you may like it
@@MW-dz1hg probably will in my opinion I really want to explore germany . I've always wanted to meat the robust chancellor of Germany who made the economy a icon in European Union
She just made a point! And the US Ambassador can't give her a creative argument!
Russia double standard!
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As a American I'm very ashamed of are Government always bullying other lands but America's greed will be are fall
we payed for their security for 75 years they can never pay nato dues, all countries try to rule and sell, most things we done since wwii was to keep the EU people their colonies around the world not ours because they used the US for gain, now trump is not doing what they want, why did obama give EU banks money when he bailed out ours, we have been a world piggy bank for the world, why pay 22-28% of the UN huge waste of money them fat cats mess up more places than help like haiti the UN left the water real bad, the UN want the US to pay for what UN troops did not US, the UN troops rape and kill everywhere, no countries are mad trump slowed down the piggy bank more, so as an AMERICAN i am ashamed it took this long we need jobs for our people same as any other country, drop NATO big saving of military money there alone, would also drop our military foot print in the world huge that's most bases, funny all our hot spots our europian former colonies that they still make money off of, use to be a soldier alot we do is for europe more than you know save money for our people get out of NATO spend money here that s alot of bases around the world think about that
@@belrog2468 What do you mean? Russia had already occupied the state I was living in (East Germany). How made atomic bombs made in USA aimed at my ass MY LIFE more secure? Bullshit. And nowadays: Who is about to attack Germany? Poland? Maybe. But this will be WITH THE HELP OF THE USA and not against the will of the USA.
The weaponising of the world currency, the US dollar, just speeds up its decline.
@@belrog2468 NATO was not defensive. it was an occupying force. The US and Britain/France, created a split for Europe by making Russia the enemy to justify its colonialism.
The US has always been most fearful of a united Europe. The biggest threat to US hegemony. The EU without Russia matches the US economy. The only way the US can survive is if the US dollar stays as the most used currency. The Euro was the biggest threat to that.
The US invaded Iraq because Saddam Hussein wanted to sell oil in Euros.
@@peter8aus8berlin Correction: Nukes from USA and USSR not just USA. Btw USA made Germany rich
This so-called American embassader is so clueless. What a shame!!!
He acts a like a High Commissioner of an overseas colony
Most hitmen are not the brightest.
Arrogance and exceptionalism are American traits as well.
As an American, I agree he is an idiot.
Sure about that?.
The EU wants expensive gas from US? Ahahahaha, liers.
Yes we want gas from US. You know why?
Because we know that Russia will buy tanks and another weapon for selling gas to EU.Thanks builds to destroy Ukraine, Poland Georgia............
Frenchman and Spaniards are not in dengerous situations besause of Russia . We( Poland) dont want to buy anything from Russia.
and we know that this hypocritic EU dont help us when war will be start .
@@martig1000 US will do the same thing, probably slightly different cuz they are not next to Poland.
Take a look Iraq and Afghanistan, that true US style "democracy " brings hells of refugees to you.
US started the war and they don't accept refugees，just wanna U guys to have fun ?
@@jaycez3971
but Germany and Russia are next to Poland.
This countries are danger for my country.
Not US.
@@martig1000 one should realise that the source of troubles around the world is the US not Russia, Iraq is possibly the best example of the first victim country of the US in the world straight after and during the collapse of the Soviet Union, I know exactly what happened to that country because I was there in Baghdad during the first war against the US in 1991, that war simply turned a reasonably well developed country into ruins, let alone the second war in 2003, and what happened afterwards until today, I know that the poles have cocerns about Russia being their bullies for a while in their history, but keep in mind this is nothing in comparison to what the US could do to your country if they had the chance, so never trust them they are not politicians or diplomats but rather cowboys.
@@martig1000 True. Look at Belarus today. A lot of turmoil. Putin is just waiting to 'assist' them.
"History shows that when a state is intent upon making war against another state, even though not adjacent, it begins to seek frontiers across which it could reach the frontiers of the state which it desires to attack. Usually, the aggressive state finds that frontier." ~ Joseph Stalin
Think Belarus, Poland, Germany in that order.
Before me, 666 comments.
And hey, the problem is not Nord Stream II, it’s America
We Europeans are more concerned about the increased influence from the US.
The US thinks that its bad to buy cheap stuff from geopolitical rivals....for Europeans.
The US buying cheap stuff from China while they build bases in the South China Sea , and crack skulls in Hong Kong is just fine though.
It is pathetic to see if EU still listen to stupid US propaganda
@Danny Boy C. Right, because Russia has been involved, be it directly or indirectly in 90% of all conflicts fought post the Second World War; leads the world in overthrowing foreign democratically-elected governing entities whilst simultaneously advocating for democracy; creates, supports, funds and arms terrorist organisations around the world in the name of world peace, right?
Oh wait, that's the Americans.
@Danny Boy C. The Americans created the Taliban, you degenerate. They created a rebel group to combat Soviet influence and subsequently created a mess that they themselves are unable to fix decades later.
The democratically-elected governments I was referring to are leaders like the former Prime Minister of Iran, Mohammad Mosaddegh, of whom was overthrown in favour of a brutal dictatorship. The reason? He attempted to nationalise his nation's oil reserves.
Even if certain leaders weren't elected democratically, it would hardly give the Americans justification to interfere in foreign internal affairs. What's worse is that even if I can look pass America's self-righteousness and ostentatious, arbitrary obligation to unilaterally "promote democracy," why then are they supporting other dictatorships in Latin America? Why are they supporting an undemocratic Saudi Arabia with long standing human rights abuses?
www.trtworld.com/americas/the-secret-history-of-us-interventions-in-latin-america-23586
Take the video for example. Germany is democratic. Heck, they are far more democratic than the US. What justification do the Americans have to interfere in Germany's decision to purchase gas from Russia?
I know who my enemies are. China doesn't interfere in European affairs. Russia doesn't interfere in European affairs. Neither does Iran, nor North Korea, for that matter. At least, not at the same degree that the US does. The US is Europe's worst enemy. A wolf in sheep's clothing.
But there isn't an increased influence by the US, there is a decreased influence by the US and an increased influence by Russia.
The issue is that a large part of Germanys energy would be from a singular country, Russia, and that is a security threat because they can jist close it off, or threaten to, in order to apply pressure to Germany amd gain more power over them. And the US is the primary defense force protecting Europe from external threat, the US also has obligations, and geopolitical security of Europe is one of them. Russia and China are increasing alliance and China is trying to carry out its beltway plan.
Basically what the BBC is trying to say is that the Military-Industrial complex needs more money, so buy their gas instead otherwise there will be problems for freedom & democracy
You guys will have “Problem“ with anything Russia
Ruskies will dispose of surplus nerve gas in those pipelines.
That's another type of gas they have plenty of and seem to
enjoy using lately.
@@jimbosammy4255
There is 1 goal and 1 strategy:
IT IS IMPERATIVE
that no EurasiaN challenger emerges capable of dominating EurasiA and thus of also challenging America
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Zbignew Spykman Wolfowitz etc.
Get 80% of the gas from Russia, but Gas is only 7% of Germany’s energy,
For now.... they are shutting down nuclear and carbon plants, gas is the future... is the cleanest among the working fuels....and Rusia has a lot !!!!
@@santiagomunpz6073 gas is not clean 😂. Nuclear is the cleanest
@@adam6543 You should read again my comment.
Go Leeds !!!!
@@santiagomunpz6073 you said cleanest amongst working fuels but nuclear works and is the cleanest. I get where your coming from that nuclear isn't a fuel though. Also Biomass is the cleanest
@@adam6543 Is Germany opening or closing nuclear plants?
Gas is the cleaneast among the reliable fuels available now.
Its not my opinion,, Germany wants more and more Russian Cheap gas.... China as well...
Maybe in 50 years we go 100% clean..... but right now... coal and oil are the ones, they are going to reduce consumption
Its not only about the gas, its about helium, hydrogen and much much more.
Germany is not a puppet of America
ramcharan Jakka after ww2 it is. Same goes for Japan.
Germany should also stop asking America to get involved in solving European problems aka Ukraine or dealing with Russia. How quickly you forget the blood and money to keep the Soviets out.
Russia will liberate ans muslimify our nations for the better communism is already everywhere present
Time to reduce that trade deficit with Germany. No American gas. Well then no German car imports
@Keyrings Locks not as much as Germany, they are traitors
The US should just butt off other peoples bussiness
We are. It is called negotiating. Germany wants Russian gas instead of American. Us should stop buying German cars to get balanced trade. Germans don't want to balance trade with gas.
Shahnid Ismail That's what they already do but in greater scales..
NathansHVAC are you going to start buying their cars by paying three times more for the same thing?
@@alexsherman8586 We can buy US or Korean cars.. they just as good...and they aren't German... I don't drive a Panzer...
@Covert Puppytwo You are a clueless american not knowing the greed and atrocities your government has committed
The one thing I've not seen in a while..
"The USA try to sell everything to everyone"
"But why object when Russia does the same?"
"Shut up let me finish my point"
Oh dear.
@Русское море So tell me.. do you think it's right for Russia to send in to occupied Ukraine advanced air to air missiles and put them in the hands of militia? They shot down an airliner... Do you think it's right for Russia to take over parts of Ukraine and seize Crimea? Wars happen all the time.. The Soviets filled Vietnam with weapons, Syria they have been sponsoring for many decades, Iran they sell advanced air defense weapons.. they kill their enemies wherever they are with poison... Putin is a ruthless dictator who kills all who oppose him.. just a fact... If you are Russian you are only here as a troll... you couldn't express any dissent... or you would be fucked... So the USA is bad... ok maybe.. but you live in a police state.. I'll take the USA...
Russia is invading to conquer land and nations. The US has not done that. It's simple.
When the US annexes Toronto and declares it the 51st state call me
@Русское море Oh, sorry, I didn't know we were blatantly lying to each-other to try and make a point. Here, let me try:
"Russia is sending their army over to Germany right now to commit genocide! Russia is arming terrorists with nuclear missiles! Russia is dumping military grade nerve agents into the oceans!"
Winning an argument is easy when you can make up whatever you want
@@nolin132 So America no longer has bases inside a third of the planet's nations? When did they pull everyone out?
@@SeanD808 Get out of your American bubble... reading your comments is just painful.
Sounds more like working together than anything else 🤔
Also notice that this makes Russia dependant on Europe as well, since it relies on us to buy its gas.
But I agree that *flipping heck, we should be researching renewables more*
"We" won't be buying our gas from America or Russia, and no longer have an influence in European economic decisions. Welcome to Brexit, the British opinion on Europe is now worthless.
@@PATTHECATMCD So where will we be buying it from, Pat?
@@krashd Same places we're buying from now. 43% home produced, 45% from Norway (not in the EU) and 13% LNG from the Middle East. Technically you can make hydrogen from scrap aluminium and sodium hydroxide, use electricity to recycle the solid waste (high grade bauxite) back into fresh aluminium. Zero carbon emissions, but very dangerous.
@@krashd He never considered that.
Russia has different gas pipelines to different countries. There's one to Turkey and others to Asia through China. It's not like they're depending 100% on one country to buy it gas. Gas is the future. Very clean source of energy and far cheaper.
You mean to tell me they can run a gas line that far that big under the sea but don’t want to reveal a cure for cancer lol
If they "cured" death, would natural human reproduction need to "change"?
So the "problem" is that it will provide gas at a more competitive price than the US then? Right.....
This aged very well.
That didn’t age well
Richard Grenal should not be allowed to speak. He makes it very obvious why the US really takes issue with the Nord stream pipeline
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Why you never see this on US main stream media? What are they afraid of?
so if you are against something before you have any capacity some how that gives you the right?!?!
What kind of twisted world is that?!?
Everyone is equal in europe equally behind germany.
Getting in more gas to help replace coal, which replaced nuclear.. god, this Energiewende is going great. We don't need this pipeline, speed up the switch to renewables instead.
Renewable energy is limited by geography...most countries that have renewable energy eaither use dams like norway or the Geothermal like in iceland...wind farms are seasonal and solar farms in europe is even funny to consider xD
When this pipeline is completed,some big corporations will be losing business. They are the real reason for all the threats and complaints. Everything else are just excuses.
Just come back to see the comments from 3 years ago.
You came back at an interesting time...
Please, what is this music's name?
After brexit Russian will form an alliance with EU.
Tbh Europe and Russia are just natural allies. Europe can provide Russia with technology and machinery, Russia can provide Europe with natural resources and relatively cheap labour.
To establish trade between them is the exact opposite of what Stalin and Hitler believed in - they didn't believe in trade, thus the strife for autarky. Silly. Trade is the way to go forward peacefully.
Americans really should not interfere here.
@@cyrusol yes, Russia will make a good replacement for UK after brexit.
@@kevinwellwrought2024 Union of Russia and EU? Ahaha, nevermind, it isn't profitable for Putin. You don't know what they say about a "decaying" Europe on our federal channels. Putin presents the EU as an enemy...
you can not do that
You want big war in Europe III
As far as Iran pakistan has finished the gas pipeline projection, it is now in this effort
0:53 So Russia isn't "European soil"? You would think a European news network would know the borders of Europe.
The main problem with NordStream 2 is pathological russophobia
And USA gas
Russophobia is a good thing , Putin nation is dangerous and evil.
2:13 Perfect Question not followed by a good answer
"it arrives here on EUROPEAN soil" and from where bbc??
Russian pipelines both to Europe and to China have no competitors in the delivery of fuel and its cheapness in relation to the United States.
Damn how can I jump on this pipe line and weld some pipes together?
What a hypocrite! that's why EU despise man. Look at how he talks as if EU is US colony. EU should blame it self for being foolish.
To be honest without US, Europe would be Nazi colony, and after war Soviet colony, and today they are in talk to take over Europe again. Stupid west Europeans will never learn how deadly Germany and Russia really is for our continent, as they are not between these imperialists.
or maybe LESS USA INFLUENCE :)
2:13 why’d you edit his reply out?
1:57 Bingo!
What?
US is looking for lackeys, is Germany a lackey?
The problem is OIL is NEVER FUEL WE have been taken advantage of by the OIL LIE'S. I can't believe everyone is still under the impression that it's a non renewable energy when in fact it is. Fuel- diesel prices are around $4.50 a gallon today, May 25 - 2019 in Jackson California.
But the guy at the end of the video didn't explain why they don't want it, did he..?
It's happening
i really love to see how things going now.1 line 100% done,2 will be in Autumn . Next step it throw out USA from EU market.Nobody cares about the ukraine interest at all.
The UK and Ireland will have to tap into Nord stream 2 in the next 10-15 years also as domestic supplys run out and Norway's reserves dwindle.
Russia is connecting its gas facilities with Azerbaijan to supply them to Europe, bypassing the sanctions. These two countries are partners ..... Europeans need, in any way, to reduce the cost of gas passing through the pipeline to Europe. Or reduce its income, to a minimum. thus making it possible for other countries with a positive characteristic to increase supplies.
Denmark has not agreed to the pipeline from what I know.
The Danish Energy Agency granted Nord Stream 2 a construction permit for the South-Eastern Route on October 30, 2019. The approved route stretches 147 kilometers in the Danish Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ).
That Richard Grenall is so rude
Yes our problems today in 2022 with Russia is about selling gas.period. No politicians can tell their citizens that they going to war for gas. Solving the Nato expansion problem will help solve the gas problem as well. Strangely enough it is Germany that is playing a central role in a possible 3rd world war.
The problem with it is that we in Europe really should be using less natural gas (from Russia and elsewhere). We should be moving towards renewable energy and industry surplus for our electricity and heating, and really only use natural gas in our heavy industry. China, India etc. should be using more natural gas instead of coal. :)
It’s all about basic economics and business without other factors considered. Without transit fee through Ukraine, there’ll be more profit to be gained from Russian gas export to Europe. The gas might even be cheaper if those fees are deducted and a more stable gas supply to Europe can be maintained by avoiding all the Russian-Ukrainian political tension.
Phasing out nuclear power gen was a big mistake.
Omg, I can feel the Russian language is slowly being installed into my brain. What is happening to me?
What????
Это очень хорошо) прошёл уже целый год с того момента как ты написал свой комментарий, значит уже ты можешь прочитать мой ответ))
Lol....the Ambassador ....we're still waiting for his point
the us should be busy threatening to send military to venezuela over their oil
They are! And it sickens millions of us US citizens.
There is an advantage with buying Russian gas and petrol, it gives them money which is essential for making them less aggressive. If they got something to lose they are far less likely to risk it.
We don’t want your expensive gas
There IS no problem
In short the problem with Nord Stream 2 is america
Lay off the fake news. The trade deficit with Germany is $50 billion. Globalism is done. Time to care about American gas and not Russian. Or else, we should buy less German cars.
Without prejudice : 80% the problems on earth actually, are because of USA..
NathansHVAC: Nope it's time for USA to care about Venezuela and Maduro.. ^^
Trump is the problem for everything
The problem is the EU, can't wait until we leave that traitorous globalist union
It's an awsome project!! The money to be made. I can't wait for it come on line. I'm glad to be part of it.
That was not a good answer.
Poland, advocate of US LNG will pay additionally 19 to 20 billion dollars within 20 year contract period for their present intake volumes, as the needs increase and volatility sets in, these figures might double, security of supply is very risky, and real options have been shunted away, so no additional supply except LNG. The same supply vories are clouding Latvia, Estonia, and Lithuania, all fortfaited their security and diversity of supply to distant, overseas sources, which as we know by now to often do not keep their obligations, or deliveries if their lawyers, or politicians find the way not to. Ukraine, main transit route for Russian gas have known shortcomings, storage and redelivery enormous shorts worth millions if not billions while oligarchs enriched themselves by manipulating gas figures, often said to be by "stealing", then the same oligarch embarked on plundering rampage within Ukraine itself, and with "friendly" help of intelligence agencies, one noted US flag on their forefront government intelligence building, continued with escapades one cannot comprehend.
the problem is the price is too cheap so many want to use gasprom products than their rivals from the usa or europe.
The only problem is that us are not going yo participate in this great project!!
this event will inspire hollywood to make a movie, cant wait for it.
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thumbs down aka dislikes are definitely from Muricas
us in panic
Has Russia produced a working Washing machine?
the best producer with best environmental standards and price wins. free market for all
This make sense nw
I hope the the gas will be getting cheaper with nordstream 2 otherwise it will fill the bags of the large concerns like always.
1:19 hahahahaha
Nobody wants expensive gas
I see that bbc of uk is crying to see russian gas
Is this true? Or another fake report?
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wheird that usa thinks it can deside germany buying from russia or not
2:08 yes we Understand Capitalism. and the Dirty Plays Behind it.
Fact is Russia has a better offer but US feels Europe owes it.
Привет всем из России. Скорее всего и так все понимают, почему США против нашего северного потока 2, надо же свой сжиженный, который дороже в 2 раза, кому то продать, а кому как не бесхребетной Европе)) Но смешно то, что даже в самом названии цифра -2 означает , что это второй поток и уже есть первый, и на самом деле есть еще несколько, но почему то они Путину не помогают оказывать влияния на ЕС и кроме санкций и наговоров ничего от них нет. А вот именно второй северный даст такую возможность, может там какой то другой тоталитарный газ запустят)) Интересно в это кто то верит, что газопровод может оказывать влияние?))
Перевел бы в гуглтранслейторе
@@funksobrotherrus Думаю кому будет интересно из иностранцев реальное мнение русского, тот и сам переведет, а если нет , так и хер с ними))
I'm a cannibal too.
Why us government so afraid? Ahahaha
Its done !!!
2:05 he just exposed capitalism LOL
Where to retire? Hmmm.... East or West Germany.
It's called extortion for billions at the ruination of others.
Russian gas warms the Germans, does it make them high….I don’t get it?!
Amerika, go home!
The problem is not the pipe line, the problem is if Germany can take independent decision of the usa.
So you saying its Russia who made the desition for Germany ? I really doubt , any evidence of your claim ?
Yes sir. Russia is having a sale on gas right now. 50% discount if you buy NOW.
[Standard retail pricing takes effect in 2 years. Subject to Russian terms and conditions,
discounts may vary by country and behavior]
40 000 American soldiers stationed inside Germany. Germany is a captive of Russia. Logic.
Übergangsenergie für 10 Jahre....
The more we interconnect and diversify our energy supplies the more we lessen the possibilities of conflict about this.... probably not in the interest of the us-war mongerers if "peace breaks out" ?!
Thank god fo Merrkel! And : keep your LPG ( liquified petrol gas) we rather use NATURAL gas mr. Trump!!
Russian gas is cheaper than American LNG.
Germany’s nuclear power industry was destroyed for this. In return Gerhard Schröder was rewarded with Chairman of Nordstream AG.
USA says obey me or else.
Why can't Germany help balance the trade deficit? We buy a lot of German cars. It is called balanced trade. American gas paid with American profits.
It would not be free trade but crony capitalism. If we can bring them the best price for such goods, they will buy from us. We choose not to. Trade balance is of no importance in reality. It’s a political toy. We trade so much among ourselves (gdp) that the imbalances are null. Imagine this, every time I buy something from you, you have to spend that very amount on something that I have whether it’s a good deal or not. That would be extortion.
It's called capitalism. One buys at the one with the cheapest product to the previously defined quality. Guess what nation that is. Exactly Russia. No energy supplier in Germany will ever buy US GAS, if it is more expensive than Russian with the same quality. so easy
Then the US should put tariffs on German imports to balance trade. That is only fare.
@@NathansHVAC Well you could do that. But the result will be that the EU will do the same on US products ( cause Germany is part of the biggest trade bloc on planet earth). The eu represtens 450 million customers. The US just 330 million. Since the US already has a trade war with china ( in my eyes the dumbest think one could do, cause china is the future superpower on planet earth) the US can not in any way affort another trade war. But that is just my opinion. In the end the US has to decide what and when they do something. But the US should not think that the other world powers like the EU or China do not react on what ever the US decides to do.
BBC there is no
problem with
Nord Stream 2 natural gas pipeline
The American gas is actually called "FREEDOM gas".....so Germany should buy it without any questions.....even thou it's 3 times as expensive than the Russian "Aggression gas"