Race Bike VS. Freestyle Bike
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- I had a couple people ask this question in the same week so here it is! The difference between Carbon and Aluminum and the difference between a race bike and a freestyle bike. Whats your thoughts?
Barry, you do an excellent job explaining things. I've been in BMX for 24 years (racing & freestyle) and I'm always learning something new from your videos.
Thank you! I enjoy sharing it
I learned that carbon can be stronger, because the molecular structure is a hexagon, so the molecules make a lot of contact with each other in all directions. This makes carbon rims, forks, etc. super strong when casing a jump, or taking any sort of impact. When carbon is not strong, is when it is hit with something, because the carbon molecules are flat, an impact perpendicular to the carbon weave, such as hitting it with a hammer or something can compromise the part.
Sheeeeeeee
Been running 100 psi for 20 yrs people still think I'm crazy keep up the awesome vids .
Content on point as usual. TY Barry
On the cogwheel of his Haro-Racebike there is a lettering in German that says "Rennen", which means "racing" or even "run" or "sprint". That's really cool, cuz from a German perspektive it somehow sounds oldschool.
You/barry explains a lot of stuff, which I think might be of great interest for a lot of newbies. I like that you're always open up and not moody or negative towards other people, which I think makes a real winner/racer. Its the mindset.
i race a standard 125r and s&m speedwagon. it feels great around the track, it has a little flex but not as much as you might think. before that i had a meybo hole shot, carbon forks and wheels and all that and on the scale my standard was actually lighter. chromoly bikes definitely have improved over the years and everyone who had ridden my bike liked it. everyone seems to want carbon, or a fancy aluminum frame. and i’ve had both but at the end of the day i’d always chose a chromoly frame over anything else. and being American made that’s always cool too.
Next time your in TN come check out the Cookeville skate park, I think you’ll like it
I've been there, I enjoyed it. It's got a unique layout and some 'different' obstacles.
@@chrisiglehart why u pit it like ‘different’
@@buinesshamster_8645 Things I haven't seen at other skate parks.
Round 2 Bmx products makes forks that are fully carbon. They do have a metallic insert for the stem stem bolt at the top and metal in the opening for the axel. I’ve been running them on my cruiser and class bikes and haven’t had any issues so far.
Yes I have seen these they look sick
So my race bike is actually a full steel frame. It’s a gt frame with mostly gt parts on it. I have been taking your tips and me now being 15 is doing bmx racing.
Be cool if you could do a video on injury recovery. Stuff that helps. I'm straight bumming at the moment. Broke tib, fib, and dislocated ankle on the dirt jumper last week lol
No good!! I wish you a speedy recovery!👊🏼👊🏼
Your awesome keep up the work your on your way to 2021 vet pro champion
Sweet. Perfect. Barry,trying to move my daughter from the 20 to the 26 dj. She ain't feeling it. Give us some words on the learning curve to make the change. 🤘🏻
Just an FYI to your question. Carbon fiber is approximately three to four times stronger than aluminum in regards to tensile strength. With that being said, carbon fibers strength is all dependent on the type of carbon used. There are various different orientations. There is uni directional, which has all of the fiber running one way. The strength here is made when numerous plies are stacked in different directions. For instance, the ply makeup may start at 0 degrees and then 45 and 90. With all that being said, carbon is definitely more brittle in regards to an isolated impact (like leaning a road bike against a wall and the top tube hits the edge of a curb when it falls) and therefore more susceptible to damage if incidents like that occur. This is where delamination can occur.
I love carbon, especially on road bikes. You just have to be careful handling them.
Can you make more videos in the back yard this are awesome
Yep! They are coming
@@barrynobles95 Can you come to Hampton BM x track in Virginia some day I always say you are my inspiration they even call me nobles!
Great Video! Carbon is about twice as strong as aluminum. However, once the ultimate tensile strength of the carbon fiber material is exceeded carbon fiber fails suddenly.
Thank you for that!!
Thank you for explaining the difference between these 2 bikes nice video !
Very informational video Barry, thanks!
I think your videos are fantastic.. im a complete Newb to all types of BMX. Thank you.
*this is info from an older video I saw explaining carbon fiber so it may be outdated*
Carbon is stronger when molded correctly and when only the intended forces are applied. The direction the carbon is laid effects the strength of the piece. That’s why you see videos of people smashing carbon downtubes with no problem but a rock hitting the side at a weird angle may crack it.
What psi do you run on the freestyle? You mentioned what you run on the race but not the freestyle. Thanks. Great video.
Same on both
3 years ago,,,but yet still support our Alabama Slamma,,,Our Nine 5ive
3:22 ahem steel wheels. Lol love that track
the funny thing is I can 360 flat my race but I can only 180 my freestyle!
Teach me
Thanks, Barry! Great video as usual.
Yeah waiting for a video top fan.
Ur Knowledge is Deep
Formula one has done many materials. You are right on the money.
What kind of delivery is the bb86 bottom bracket on the Haro Race Lite - even speciality tools can get a grip on the bearings to remove them 🥴
33 12 is best gear ratio imo. Its small but also the same ratio as a 44 16 or 25 9
I’m running 44 on 20 Wondering if I could make it better
Barry, if you need the custom machined stem piece to go in so you can use a different stem on the Strider let me know. I'll send you one.
Did you ride red bull revolution? U should do a race review on it if you did
How do you know what size (height) the bars should be on a race bike? Im a newbie, building a bike up, does RAD for mtb bike fit appy to the fit of a race Bmx. Alex Bogusky (Joy of Bike) has good videos on measuring RAD.
The difference is geometry weight and strength. Titanium seems best. Maybe carbon but the price is crazy
Was that your Rock Hill set up. Did you have a 16 on the back with that 46? Did I see a 1.95 on the rear too?
17 in the rear. .95 both
Good video I learn something
Could you do a video for BMX race and explain how UCI championships work as well as large races like rock hill or just explain how any large race work cause I know a lot of people out there who just ride locally and want to go out of town
Noted!!
Love your videos you should compare your era bmx with the old school bmx bikes of the 80s .
Haha if someone can provide an 80s bike I’d be down
@@barrynobles95 yup that's a problem there's plenty of us old guys still interested here in cali besides I think most of your young viewers aren't interested in there gramps's bmx bikes.thanks for the reply . Keep it up
Some aluminum bmx frames are very close to carbon fiber bmx racing bikes because they are stronger and when made correctly they can be very light on the bmx race tracks. Barry Nobel.
Correct
Carbon is stronger than chromoly, But Carbon also can be weaker, The rear triangle on a carbon bike is much stiffer and stronger than that of a chromoly or aluminum, But when you nose dive to many times carbon can break on you, Carbon is stronger but not stronger in the stress points, wherever the welds are on a freestyle bike or alu race bike are is where the stress points are on carbon and those are where you normally crack or snap carbon, Over torching carbon can also pinch it or crack it so Impact wise carbon is weaker, but in general carbon is stronger!!
Do you pinch the seat when you throw the bars? I've never been able to do it and have been told it's because I don't pinch the seat but I see people throw em and it doesn't look like they are pinching. Then again they are 100,000 times more talented than I am.
It’s hard bc seats are ran so low now a days. It’s more of a calf pinch now
Thank’s mate very interesting
Continue 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
thanks for that video! :D
Awesome,Have link for follow Haro bmx brand.Thank you Sir.
What type of guns where those in the back ground
Hey Barry do you remember the chaos squad ya I am the 11 year old that had the messed up back hub and I fell at rock hill and broke my shoulder and thumb
And also sliding out in the turn doesn’t matter how you race all you need to know if you think about falling you will fall so don’t think about it🙂
biggest problem with carbon is you put a knick in it that destroys the strength.
wait… back in the day, the 90s😩😭
It's funny how you say aluminum scares you a little. Carbon scares me because it feels like plastic and I have seen Carbon bikes just snap in videos
Any thoughts on the os 20” bikes?
Sick!!
I didn't see your cruiser... do you have one?
I don’t. Only my championship one from 2010. It’s hanging from the ceiling
What about cranks arms?
I.was thinking about racing bmx but I'm too old! Lol
What's your opinion on a 1998 diamondback venom x
Time to upgrade!
I was personally just gonna buy one because I remember seeing it when I was younger, not really looking to do tricks or anything just looking for a nice ride to ride around town
You already did make that video right
What is your crank length with the 46T chainring?
170s
Damn, you've got some legs.
That's why them weirdos run road clips on the BMX ;) The shimano xc shoes are amazing
This guy bro
No air tyres and ti bikes should be standard by now
Yes I've heard Carbon is stronger than aluminum
How to go through the rithum section
Just here for the dilf
😛
Question: Why do race bmx bikes even have the seat?
UCI regulations.
Dont limit yourself to just the bmx track.
#HURDthat
When i started racing i was racing a haro
This is exactly the vid wanna see... I am designing the perfect bike. It would cost about 5k minimum haha.
A bit of an over simplification.
Steel frames do flex a little out of the gate yes, but where does the energy go? It can only be transmitted into something else- it cannot be destroyed.
Unless you bike is turning it into heat or sound the flex is returned into your pedal stroke when there is less force- when the pedals are more vertical.
People have been sold of stiffness through road bike mentality where the requirements for lighter weights made bikes very flexible.
Carbon fibre bikes make for a poor ride and make the bike push the front too much in corners. And riders probably make more losses due to being inaccurate over jumps and the bike not flexing to forgive them.
Amazing how the sales of rental bars have peaked to forgive some of the stiffness.
Freestyle bikes are not made of aluminium because it isn't durable enough. It suffers fatigue.
That is- it can go through repeated cycles within its threshold of stress and strain and break. It has a finite lifetime. New heat treating processes have made it better, but it still suffers fatigue breaks.
But it is cheaper.
Nearly all bmx manufacturers bond aluminium steerers to their carbon forks.
Carbon steerers will just shatter upon casing, so generally have a weight restriction, and bmx'ers are not the most technically savvy so will over tighten stems, and these need to be tightened with a sleeve inside, to a given tension and lubricated correctly.
Personally, I don't think carbon fibre or clips have any place in bmx. They haven't helped any, and have made it harder for kids to get into he sport and made crashes much worse. And loads of motor cycle supercross guys have gone back to steel swing arms because aluminium feels bad- the moto gp guys have gone away from carbon as it is too stiff and unpredictable.
But great videos Barry and great to see you still giving everything to bmx and giving back.
The new thing is flexible carbonframe who help you to get the energy down to the tire when you start. That company made competition bows in carbonfiber to.
Every bike should have gyro but lightweight
Can I have your autograph?
$5. 😜
@@barrynobles95 can I get ur bike?
Can you come to Memphis and do a clinic
Hopefully soon enough
Sup Barry
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Hi Barry n
Video
Sick mids!
So Freestyle means those bikes are meant for wheelies and manuals?
my freestyle bike is a 95 haro zippo custoized to look like a master. it never sees dirt its a freestyle bike??
Titanium is as light as aluminium but as strong as steel, small issue - it's a pain in the a** to work with. Everything from making the tubes to welding them together is just more of a hassle. That's why the price is so insane, not because it's some rare element, it's actually pretty common, but craftsmanship and QC need to be on point, and those are not free.