You're getting a follow from me for this. How it is Dave doesn't get more love is criminal to me. Those first 3 Jane's records are as classic as anything ever recorded. He's a legend.
Thanks for the sub. I know what you mean, they don't seem as well-known as I would expect with younger (than me) people. That can change though. Some bands get way bigger after their heyday. Jane's was always huge in my circle of friends, because they came along and changed everything at just the right time.
Stood in front of Dave just a few days ago watching him play this in 2024 in Hamburg. He does it even better now than when he was younger. And doesn't look as if he is even having to try. Great little video - tells you what you need to know, succinctly and effectively. That said, I don't think I will ever be able to play it.
That's cool. I'm going to see them in Sept. I'm glad that Dave is back at it, and Eric Avery too. If it seems a little beyond your reach, maybe try just learning one phrase at a time. Practice it as slow as you need to, to play it without making mistakes. Then gradually speed it up. If it takes weeks or months that's ok. I like those words, "succinctly and effectively." That is exactly what I am shooting for, so thanks!
@@JimbosGuitarPlanet I saw them last month, and Eric is also playing better than ever, and Stephen is having more fun than ever. I envy you having it in your future!
If you want to hear another underrated guitarist that I believe is just as creative and has the chops as Navarro in terms of alt rock, check out the band Into Another.. specifically the album Ignaurus. Peter Moses is the guy's name. He's an unknown monster
Gracias y gracias por decir Hola! Es genial que estos puedan trascender la barrera del idioma. Avísame si tienes alguna pregunta. Es bastante fácil copiarlas y pegarlas en el Traductor.
For the way I view the key and scales used, check out my reply to @danielgray1073 below--the second one where he mentions the key and the modes. And thanks!
Great job! Thanks for tabbing it out, it's very helpful! How was seeing them in September? (I had tickets to the Bridgeport show they cancelled right after the "incident")
Cool-thanks for letting me know! The Chicago show would have been eleven days after the Boston show, so I didn't get to see them either. I was looking forward to it but obviously it wasn't meant to be.
Awesome thanks so much for this… Got it. Would you happen to have the backing track for this by any chance or let me know where you think I could get it. I tried a couple searches, but haven’t found it yet. Thanks so much again. Excited to see some of the other lessons.
Thanks-I'm glad you like this! I don't know of any available backing tracks, but here is a way that you could pretty easily make one that keeps Perkins' amazing percussion, and what must be Perry's maniacal strumming. I use a program called "Transcribe!" to learn/transcribe and practice. It has a Karaoke setting which removes whatever is in the center of the mix. For "Three Days" it removes the guitar solo but unfortunately it also removes the bass. However, if you export the sound file with the removed guitar and bass to a track on your DAW you can overdub the bass yourself. It's a repeated figure that I demonstrate in my Part 2 video: ua-cam.com/video/J3bxrHMIV7Q/v-deo.html
Can you please reference or explain the technique you are using to play at 2:27? On transcription, it looks like I can just keep my finger on 8th fret of B (and later on 15th fret) and do the pull-offs on high E but you are doing it differently, and it sounds way better the way you do it. Or wouldn't it be more convenient to just keep the 8th (and later the 15th) fret pressed the whole time or it is different from the technique?
Sure. It's a repeated four note figure. I only pick the first and the last note, so I pick the 7th fret E string (index), hammer-on the 10th fret E string (pinky), pull-off to the 7th fret E string, and then pick the 8th fret B string (middle). I keep the index finger anchored, not the middle finger. I don't keep the middle finger down because it feels awkward when executing the hammer-on and pull-off. Also, if you keep the middle finger down, that note keeps ringing which you don't want. It's the climactic part of the solo, so you want each note to have weight behind it. My middle finger comes down with the same force as my pinky to try to make the strings sing.
great job! love how you broke down the hard phrases. Hey so i got all the notes down, i can play it at .75 i can ALLMOST play it at full speed, i am thinking maybe some of my picking is not efficient. any place you can think of where i would think to down pick but i raelly gotta start with an up pick or anything like that? I'm gonna try to watch you to see if your up picking or down picking but sometiems its hard. oh and maybe some hamerons or slides will save me ok i can make sure i look at your tabs to make sure i catch all of those
maybe im making too much ofa big deal of the picking. so its probably just alternate picking at all points that are crazy fast , and if its not a hameron or a slide, its alternate pick. the one place i notice, is for those trills starting on the 9th fret e string(a b note) and then going to the trill on the 14th fret e string and back, ya know the ony trills in the solo, they start with an up pick. you up pick that trill and then hit the note on the b string quickly after with a down pick. am i right about that? i tried starting the trill with a down pick of course because my instinct is to start any picking sequence with a down pick , but im getting more speed playing like your playing it with an up pick starting off those phrases
You're right, I do start that with an upstroke. In that case it's probably more to do with preferring the way the upstroke makes the string ring out. As far as picking goes in general, I first learned to alternate pick, and only did it that way for a long time. I eventually heard about economy picking where you basically incorporate a little sweep when moving to an adjacent string. I tried it and did not like it at first, but I kept at it for a few days and found the benefits of it. Now it almost seems like my hands decide on their own when to strictly alternate and when to use economy picking. It's good that you are working out those details as you practice it at a reduced speed. Then when you have that stuff worked out to the point of being automatic, you'll find it much easier to increase the speed.
so im gonna learn it and play it without thinking about how it was written. but then after i might want to ask myself what key is this song is in? any modes that he is using ? I understand what modes are, just havent figured out how to integrate them into my playing yet.
The solo is in E minor. Dave is doing a couple of things. He's not a schooled theory-based player, so by ear he's added a couple of notes (F# and C#) to E minor pentatonic. E minor pentatonic = E G A B D. Adding the two notes gives you E Dorian: E F# G A B C# D. The other (and most important) thing he's doing is playing phases that start with, end with, or revolve around the note G#. Try playing E minor pentatonic and raising the G so that it's E G# A B D. You'll recognize that sound from his playing (like "Ocean Size" at 2:09). I don't worry about any of this stuff though when I play it. I like to space out.
@@JimbosGuitarPlanet you've already spent too much time on my questions haha so feel free to ignore this but, ok great analysis that helps me thank you i like to think about that kinda stuff. but I think overall i just need to hear it. like I can't tell you how many times i tried to learn modal theory and crap i just haven't gotten to a point where i can integrate it into the music i write/ the solos i improvise. when im playing, i cant think about the theory or else it sounds like crap lol. its more about maybe understanding the sounds of these different modes i guess and just feeling it out. So E dorian, we can also say that is the Key of D right. my guitar teacher would tell me not to think of it is E dorian , but to think of it just as D major, and then starting from the second note of D major of course. Like I get both ways to think about it lol. if you gave me a written test, i could tell you all these relationships but ill be damned if it has ever helped my playing. i almost think thinking of it as E dorian is less confusing than just thinking D. like how am i supposed to realize ohhh yeah for this solo ill just use the D major scale but start from the second note lol. what's an easy song that got you to integrate modes into your playing?
It's hard to tell someone what they need to know without knowing what type of music they want to play or what their goals are. Many well-known rock guitarists never bothered with the modes, but a guy like Randy Rhoads is just one of many guitarists where you can see the use of modes. If you want to play jazz, the modes are just the tip of the iceberg of the things you need to master. Each person has to decide what tools they want in their toolbox to be able to play what inspires them. That's where having a good teacher can help. Hopefully they can understand where you want to get and they can help you get there. Probably the first steps I did of playing with modes involved using Aeolian (Natural minor). I'm going to name a couple of songs that are not easy, but you can play as simply as you want to. Try to play along with Jimmy Page's "Achilles Last Stand" solo using E Aeolian. Start with one position (like the 12th fret) and pick out and play around with the notes that have the most impact to you. The E pentatonic minor scale is contained within that Aeolian scale at that position, so you can bend the notes you normally would. Eventually try to incorporate other positions and be able to move through them (all of the notes of G Major). Move at your own pace. Another song is Rush's "La Villa Strangiato." You can hear Alex Lifeson using A pentatonic/blues phrasing mixed with A Aeolian. The live version ends with a long rip moving through different positions. Remember, scales are just a roadmap. They are boring to listen to if a player is not able to breathe life and emotion into what they are playing. That is the magic trick that great guitarists do. Good luck!
The tabs are in the video. I put them up for around 4 seconds to give you time to get a screenshot. With a Mac you press Shift-Command-3. If you have a different type, you can search how to do it with your computer. Let me know if that works.
One of the greatest rock songs ever. Great job breaking down the solo.
I agree, and thank you!
You're getting a follow from me for this. How it is Dave doesn't get more love is criminal to me. Those first 3 Jane's records are as classic as anything ever recorded. He's a legend.
Thanks for the sub.
I know what you mean, they don't seem as well-known as I would expect with younger (than me) people. That can change though. Some bands get way bigger after their heyday.
Jane's was always huge in my circle of friends, because they came along and changed everything at just the right time.
@@JimbosGuitarPlanet jane's were definitely the true kings of alternative music.
Haunting solo, just saw JA this week- Dave’s playing is so tasteful
I've been waiting 34 years for this! SICK! Excellent tutorial!
Awesome-thank you!
Stood in front of Dave just a few days ago watching him play this in 2024 in Hamburg. He does it even better now than when he was younger. And doesn't look as if he is even having to try.
Great little video - tells you what you need to know, succinctly and effectively. That said, I don't think I will ever be able to play it.
That's cool. I'm going to see them in Sept. I'm glad that Dave is back at it, and Eric Avery too.
If it seems a little beyond your reach, maybe try just learning one phrase at a time. Practice it as slow as you need to, to play it without making mistakes. Then gradually speed it up. If it takes weeks or months that's ok.
I like those words, "succinctly and effectively." That is exactly what I am shooting for, so thanks!
@@JimbosGuitarPlanet I saw them last month, and Eric is also playing better than ever, and Stephen is having more fun than ever. I envy you having it in your future!
That's great! I think it will be cool to focus on their playing to hear how they've evolved.
Seeing them in Indy in Sept. I'm just glad go see the original 4 back together again!
Best band ever, and Dave’s such an underrated guitarist in my eyes.
If you want to hear another underrated guitarist that I believe is just as creative and has the chops as Navarro in terms of alt rock, check out the band Into Another.. specifically the album Ignaurus. Peter Moses is the guy's name. He's an unknown monster
Amazing breakdown, geniuses are such a young age..
Thanks!
Yeah, Navarro was in his early twenties.
By far and away one of the best tutorials I have seen on this epic piece! Well done Jimbo love how you break this down!
That's great-thank you for the positive feedback!
Gran trabajo saludos desde México!
Gracias y gracias por decir Hola! Es genial que estos puedan trascender la barrera del idioma.
Avísame si tienes alguna pregunta. Es bastante fácil copiarlas y pegarlas en el Traductor.
Love it.
I always jammed it out in E minor ; i can KIND of make it work but you inspired me to grab my guitar and boom...
Lydian.
For the way I view the key and scales used, check out my reply to @danielgray1073 below--the second one where he mentions the key and the modes.
And thanks!
incredible. thank you sir- blessings
Thanks so much!
u play beautifully sir. bravo.
Thanks, I really appreciate you saying that!
Thank you so much for the time and effort explaining this solo, it’s one of my faves.
I'm glad you found this-thank you!
Wow !!
Good job, man.
Thanks!
Thanks man!
You're welcome--thank you!
Great video thanks a lot !!!
You're welcome-thank you!
Great job! Thanks for tabbing it out, it's very helpful! How was seeing them in September? (I had tickets to the Bridgeport show they cancelled right after the "incident")
Cool-thanks for letting me know!
The Chicago show would have been eleven days after the Boston show, so I didn't get to see them either. I was looking forward to it but obviously it wasn't meant to be.
Thank you
You're welcome-thank you!
Awesome break down on the solo but how about a chart of all the chords that make up this song?
Thanks!
It's in the works. Check back this weekend.
Part 2 is up: ua-cam.com/video/J3bxrHMIV7Q/v-deo.html
Awesome thanks so much for this… Got it. Would you happen to have the backing track for this by any chance or let me know where you think I could get it. I tried a couple searches, but haven’t found it yet. Thanks so much again. Excited to see some of the other lessons.
Thanks-I'm glad you like this!
I don't know of any available backing tracks, but here is a way that you could pretty easily make one that keeps Perkins' amazing percussion, and what must be Perry's maniacal strumming. I use a program called "Transcribe!" to learn/transcribe and practice. It has a Karaoke setting which removes whatever is in the center of the mix. For "Three Days" it removes the guitar solo but unfortunately it also removes the bass. However, if you export the sound file with the removed guitar and bass to a track on your DAW you can overdub the bass yourself. It's a repeated figure that I demonstrate in my Part 2 video:
ua-cam.com/video/J3bxrHMIV7Q/v-deo.html
@@JimbosGuitarPlanet Awesome- thx so much appreciate it 🙏🏻!!! Excited to go through and learn some of these Van Halen bootlegs
@@rocknrollproperty That's great!
Can you please reference or explain the technique you are using to play at 2:27? On transcription, it looks like I can just keep my finger on 8th fret of B (and later on 15th fret) and do the pull-offs on high E but you are doing it differently, and it sounds way better the way you do it. Or wouldn't it be more convenient to just keep the 8th (and later the 15th) fret pressed the whole time or it is different from the technique?
Sure. It's a repeated four note figure. I only pick the first and the last note, so I pick the 7th fret E string (index), hammer-on the 10th fret E string (pinky), pull-off to the 7th fret E string, and then pick the 8th fret B string (middle). I keep the index finger anchored, not the middle finger. I don't keep the middle finger down because it feels awkward when executing the hammer-on and pull-off. Also, if you keep the middle finger down, that note keeps ringing which you don't want.
It's the climactic part of the solo, so you want each note to have weight behind it. My middle finger comes down with the same force as my pinky to try to make the strings sing.
great job! love how you broke down the hard phrases. Hey so i got all the notes down, i can play it at .75 i can ALLMOST play it at full speed, i am thinking maybe some of my picking is not efficient. any place you can think of where i would think to down pick but i raelly gotta start with an up pick or anything like that? I'm gonna try to watch you to see if your up picking or down picking but sometiems its hard. oh and maybe some hamerons or slides will save me ok i can make sure i look at your tabs to make sure i catch all of those
maybe im making too much ofa big deal of the picking. so its probably just alternate picking at all points that are crazy fast , and if its not a hameron or a slide, its alternate pick. the one place i notice, is for those trills starting on the 9th fret e string(a b note) and then going to the trill on the 14th fret e string and back, ya know the ony trills in the solo, they start with an up pick. you up pick that trill and then hit the note on the b string quickly after with a down pick. am i right about that? i tried starting the trill with a down pick of course because my instinct is to start any picking sequence with a down pick , but im getting more speed playing like your playing it with an up pick starting off those phrases
You're right, I do start that with an upstroke. In that case it's probably more to do with preferring the way the upstroke makes the string ring out. As far as picking goes in general, I first learned to alternate pick, and only did it that way for a long time. I eventually heard about economy picking where you basically incorporate a little sweep when moving to an adjacent string. I tried it and did not like it at first, but I kept at it for a few days and found the benefits of it. Now it almost seems like my hands decide on their own when to strictly alternate and when to use economy picking.
It's good that you are working out those details as you practice it at a reduced speed. Then when you have that stuff worked out to the point of being automatic, you'll find it much easier to increase the speed.
so im gonna learn it and play it without thinking about how it was written. but then after i might want to ask myself what key is this song is in? any modes that he is using ? I understand what modes are, just havent figured out how to integrate them into my playing yet.
The solo is in E minor. Dave is doing a couple of things. He's not a schooled theory-based player, so by ear he's added a couple of notes (F# and C#) to E minor pentatonic. E minor pentatonic = E G A B D. Adding the two notes gives you E Dorian: E F# G A B C# D. The other (and most important) thing he's doing is playing phases that start with, end with, or revolve around the note G#. Try playing E minor pentatonic and raising the G so that it's E G# A B D. You'll recognize that sound from his playing (like "Ocean Size" at 2:09).
I don't worry about any of this stuff though when I play it. I like to space out.
@@JimbosGuitarPlanet thanks so much!
You're welcome, thank you!
@@JimbosGuitarPlanet you've already spent too much time on my questions haha so feel free to ignore this but, ok great analysis that helps me thank you i like to think about that kinda stuff. but I think overall i just need to hear it. like I can't tell you how many times i tried to learn modal theory and crap i just haven't gotten to a point where i can integrate it into the music i write/ the solos i improvise. when im playing, i cant think about the theory or else it sounds like crap lol. its more about maybe understanding the sounds of these different modes i guess and just feeling it out. So E dorian, we can also say that is the Key of D right. my guitar teacher would tell me not to think of it is E dorian , but to think of it just as D major, and then starting from the second note of D major of course. Like I get both ways to think about it lol. if you gave me a written test, i could tell you all these relationships but ill be damned if it has ever helped my playing. i almost think thinking of it as E dorian is less confusing than just thinking D. like how am i supposed to realize ohhh yeah for this solo ill just use the D major scale but start from the second note lol. what's an easy song that got you to integrate modes into your playing?
It's hard to tell someone what they need to know without knowing what type of music they want to play or what their goals are. Many well-known rock guitarists never bothered with the modes, but a guy like Randy Rhoads is just one of many guitarists where you can see the use of modes. If you want to play jazz, the modes are just the tip of the iceberg of the things you need to master. Each person has to decide what tools they want in their toolbox to be able to play what inspires them. That's where having a good teacher can help. Hopefully they can understand where you want to get and they can help you get there.
Probably the first steps I did of playing with modes involved using Aeolian (Natural minor). I'm going to name a couple of songs that are not easy, but you can play as simply as you want to. Try to play along with Jimmy Page's "Achilles Last Stand" solo using E Aeolian. Start with one position (like the 12th fret) and pick out and play around with the notes that have the most impact to you. The E pentatonic minor scale is contained within that Aeolian scale at that position, so you can bend the notes you normally would. Eventually try to incorporate other positions and be able to move through them (all of the notes of G Major). Move at your own pace. Another song is Rush's "La Villa Strangiato." You can hear Alex Lifeson using A pentatonic/blues phrasing mixed with A Aeolian. The live version ends with a long rip moving through different positions.
Remember, scales are just a roadmap. They are boring to listen to if a player is not able to breathe life and emotion into what they are playing. That is the magic trick that great guitarists do. Good luck!
awesome!! What key and scale would you say this would be in? At first I thought it was in Em but that A major run doesn't fit that.
Thanks! For the key and scales, check out my reply to @danielgray1073 below--the second one where he mentions the key and the modes.
@@JimbosGuitarPlanet ah yes...I read it and see how it's laid out. Thanks again!
How do I get the tab. I can’t quite make it out with my old ass eyes.
The tabs are in the video. I put them up for around 4 seconds to give you time to get a screenshot. With a Mac you press Shift-Command-3. If you have a different type, you can search how to do it with your computer.
Let me know if that works.
I added a link to a PDF of the tab in the description.