We HAVE to Talk about Drone VLOS Rules...

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  • Опубліковано 13 жов 2024
  • Keeping your Autel, DJI, Potensic or any other drone in VLOS is a critical part of the drone rules and regulations in most countries, I test fly the DJI Mini 3 Pro to demonstrate why breaking VLOS may not be as it seems
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  • @MarkBowenPiano
    @MarkBowenPiano 2 місяці тому +5

    That drone has the best zoom I've ever seen!!
    800m away and you were as clear as anything. Best. Zoom. Ever. 😂

  • @johnnymac26
    @johnnymac26 2 місяці тому +15

    My old mum used to say "empty vessels make the most noise" ignore these keyboard warriors mate keep up the great work we the real pilots appreciate mate.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому +1

      Thanks mate that really means a lot. Cheers bud

    • @philldownes8685
      @philldownes8685 2 місяці тому

      we are not pilots , we simply operate remote control models /toys..... a pilot is a person who is physically in or on a vessel driving it... Rc Drone fliers are not pilots, dont kid yourself.

    • @johnnymac26
      @johnnymac26 2 місяці тому

      @@philldownes8685 and breath we are humans clinging on to a big ball of rock spinning through a massive vacuum that will kill us arguing over ...stuff...

  • @GuysPlayingWithTools
    @GuysPlayingWithTools 2 місяці тому +29

    VLOS is a personal pet peeve. It feels like a relic of the days when drones were much less reliable and predictable to fly

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому +4

      I mean, especially after what I showed in the previous video the video and control feedback is almost bulletproof on the latest models!

    • @GuysPlayingWithTools
      @GuysPlayingWithTools 2 місяці тому +7

      @GAVINHR A couple months ago I upgraded from a nice HS setup to a Mini 4 Pro with the RC2. It's hard to look up with the beautiful video the remote has. I am guilty of flying BVLOS every time, even in my own back yard. 🤣

  • @Fitandover40
    @Fitandover40 2 місяці тому +16

    It is called envy and it is not only on drone community, but all around. We live in a very sick society mate and unfortunately there are a lot more sick creatures than sane ones.

  • @nobby-green
    @nobby-green 2 місяці тому +28

    Well said mate. There’s laws and there’s guidance or guidelines. 👍

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому +3

      Exactly!

  • @187Killerbee
    @187Killerbee 2 місяці тому +12

    I've stopped making YT drone vids because of this bullsh!t.
    Now I can truly enjoy flying.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому +1

      Shame, just turn the comments off would be the best bet!

    • @187Killerbee
      @187Killerbee 2 місяці тому +1

      @@GAVINHR I'm now more focused to use my drones for different purposes. I never made any money with my YT channel. So, no loss.

  • @bohoffman774
    @bohoffman774 2 місяці тому +9

    Well, I must say this is one of the best videos to watch for people who speak before they think. Thumbs up for you Gavin! /Bo Hoffman

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому +1

      Thank you, hopefully they see it and think twice!

  • @TheoWerewolf
    @TheoWerewolf 2 місяці тому +5

    Just to throw some twigs into the fire...
    In Canada, if the drone is under 250g (commercial or not), while VLOS is strongly recommended (CAR 900.06 kicks in if not having VLOS causes a potential hazard), it's not actually required. As well, the US is looking at easing VLOS rules at least for commercial use drone flights (although it's JUST under discussion right now).

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому +1

      BVLOS operations will be coming into play soon for commercial deliveries as you say so where does that leave the hobbyist?

  • @garymason7
    @garymason7 2 місяці тому +6

    To be fair I'm willing to bet that the vast majority of drone users do fly beyond VLOS. I know I have. But that doesn't mean I'm unsafe. I still have good awareness of what's around the drone, which is usually nothing.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому

      Exactly.

    • @daviddrew7624
      @daviddrew7624 2 місяці тому

      @garymason7 this is true, I don't believe that all these goody two shoes drone pilots don't fly bvlos at some point

    • @garymason7
      @garymason7 2 місяці тому +2

      @@daviddrew7624 As someone else has said the rule is a bit of a throw back to old technology but consumer drones are so safe now they can be safely flown without seeing them. Mind you there are always muppets that make silly, thoughtless mistakes but you get them everywhere. Usually behind the wheel of a 2 tonne SUV.

    • @daviddrew7624
      @daviddrew7624 2 місяці тому

      @@garymason7 🤣🤣🤣

  • @johnburns5783
    @johnburns5783 2 місяці тому +2

    How did Ocusync 4 lose contact with the controller if you were in constant line of sight ?

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому +1

      Try watching the video because I clearly explain it.

  • @Brian_R82
    @Brian_R82 2 місяці тому +1

    The other thing they may not be aware of, I use 3rd party LEDs on my Mavic 3 pro that are visible for 5 miles. The LEDs are very bright and visible.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому

      I once did a test using strobes reg and green for orientation at night, flew out, turned screen off and flew it back using VLOS always, turned out it was 2500m

  • @YarosMallorca
    @YarosMallorca 2 місяці тому +16

    1000% agree with you.
    I'm sure that those people that write those comments fly beyond VLOS the time.
    I also get those comments on forums about this, and getting annoyed.
    This has to stop, and let's come clean, we all at least one time flown BVLOS.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому +5

      I felt I had to speak up about it now, Most people cant see the drone further than 100m! of course they do

    • @Stefan_Boerjesson
      @Stefan_Boerjesson 2 місяці тому +5

      Some people want to show their knowledge but how do they fly themselves?.................

    • @philldownes8685
      @philldownes8685 2 місяці тому +1

      I've flown way past VLOS totally unintentionally and was shocked when i realised how far away i was.. i got carried away following a horse and carriage

    • @Stefan_Boerjesson
      @Stefan_Boerjesson 2 місяці тому

      @@philldownes8685 I know. I've done the same flying more then 2 km away, all over a lake....

    • @andrewstennett3186
      @andrewstennett3186 2 місяці тому +2

      Well said Gavin.. Good old keyboard warriors with very little knowledge which is very dangerous. Thanks for posting this and you totally kept your cool. Keep up the good work Gav.

  • @tazmel
    @tazmel 2 місяці тому +4

    Absolutely spot-on GAVINHR. I don't think that it could be explained and even demonstrated better than what you just did. Bravo mate!! Haters will be haters. I have learned to ignore them.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому +1

      Thank you, best way I could think to do it!

  • @speatuk7928
    @speatuk7928 2 місяці тому +1

    I understand completely what you are saying here. But and I say but. If during your last video showing the 4G dongle, you were, as you are making out, away from the “home point”
    How come the O4 signal between the RC2 and the Air 3 was lost?
    If you had been in a position to see the drone, meaning away from the home point, the communication between the controller and the drone would have been stronger as you would have closer to the drone. Thus it would never have dropped out.
    🤔

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому

      Pointing the controller away from the drone and behind vegetation / trees like I explained :)

    • @speatuk7928
      @speatuk7928 2 місяці тому +1

      @@GAVINHR😂
      O4 works for hundreds of meters. Even in CE.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому

      @speatuk7928 so what was the point in asking if you ain’t going to accept the answer?

    • @speatuk7928
      @speatuk7928 2 місяці тому +1

      @@GAVINHR because the reply was rubbish. As we all know. If you were in VLOS there is no way you would have lost connection.
      I do appreciate that you may have had some spurious comments regarding VLOS. But come on.
      You must think we are all stupid.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому

      @@speatuk7928 I don't think youre all stupid, others get it but you fail to, There isn't a single person on youtube that has made more videos on how to extend or get better range or explained ocusync more than I have, it doesn't matter if you have O4,O3,O2 or extended wifi you need clear sight of the drone from the controller take that away it will cut connection, even using 2.4ghz in a built up area will kill a connection in a couple of hundred meters! I have spent years testing these things, if I know and show how to extend it, i know how to kill a connection. EVEN if i was flying outside of VLOS, EVEN according to the indicator on screen if thats what you want to go off, it still died at 950m? hardly far is it. My guess is you have an O4 drone and believe all the hype just believe it can't of disconnected unless I was flying far. Maybe you should watch more videos of mine you may learn something rather than ignorantly repeating the same thing.

  • @MidwestAeroGurus
    @MidwestAeroGurus 2 місяці тому +1

    Walking works to stay within VLOS if you can do so. Which if you have a large open field or similar areas works. But, they had to put this rule in place because some people will continue to fly it outside VLOS and not have eyes on it and still standing where they launched from. And if you think otherwise, let me ask you, how many times have you seen people pass in a no passing zone where you really can't see far enough ahead to safely pass?

  • @eduardo_saura
    @eduardo_saura 2 місяці тому

    Your video is very good. Here in Brazil, there are also many pilots who use computer keyboards, that is, they have never flown a drone, but they love to criticize those who are supposedly out of VLOS. The reality is that no one wants a drone to fly 100 meters, however, there are many irresponsible people who have no idea how to fly and with that, we, who fly consciously, are harmed.

  • @dsn2005i
    @dsn2005i 2 місяці тому +1

    Interesting , I never noticed that line of sight isn't accurate if you move from your home point.

  • @dronescenecarlisle
    @dronescenecarlisle 2 місяці тому +1

    Hi Gavin, perfectly correct, as long as you are positive in what you are doing, ignore the idiots who make stupid comments.There was another Tuber posted a video, on exactly the same issue, he was, according to the RC controller over 1500 meters from base, but like yourself he was directly under the drone, he used his legs like you, as I use my legs to zoom in with a camera.
    keep up the good work

  • @KimDiscoveringHistory
    @KimDiscoveringHistory 2 місяці тому +3

    I was trained to the old PfCO standard and the trainer never once looked at his distance, only ever looking at his drone to observe any objects that were in close proximity. So long as he knew of the location that was good enough. Great video buddy and let's hope those drone police get the message eh.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому +2

      Yes indeed, Essentially as long as you can see and avoid and be aware of your airspace you're generally OK. Thanks for taking the time to comment

  • @michaelconnor5922
    @michaelconnor5922 2 місяці тому +2

    Exactly right Gavin. When I'm flying my mini 3 pro, I am constantly walking. Well said 😉. Love your channel 👏

  • @theboy-uk
    @theboy-uk 2 місяці тому +1

    Rags me off as well. The vlos brigade aren't shouting at all the reckless flying videos out there.
    We (me and my trusty, patient spotter (aka, the Missus)) often change location when flying, to get a better angle on something we've seen and want to film, or even because we are just out for a stroll in the countryside, and I CBA to keep landing and taking off.

  • @Kelownadroneworld
    @Kelownadroneworld 2 місяці тому +1

    Thanks for this
    I watched that video with dongle too and I loved it. I wish we had it here in Canada. I have the same problem with a very small amount of people complaining about beyond visual line of sight if only they new
    Again, well said

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому

      Thank you 🙏

  • @ptaylor5014
    @ptaylor5014 2 місяці тому +13

    1000,0000% agree Gavin, i get fed up with the drone police on all social media platforms, granted there are a few idiots out there but 99% fly safely.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому

      I agree, same principle with auditors, doesn't matter if you like them or not or agree with what they do, its within the law so they can do it!

    • @Stefan_Boerjesson
      @Stefan_Boerjesson 2 місяці тому +2

      Agree but when a guy bragged about flying at 1000 meter altitude having 2 major airports not far away, I could not keep my mouth shut... Don't ruin drone flying for all other, more reasonably rule bending guys.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому +1

      I agree on that 100%

    • @philldownes8685
      @philldownes8685 2 місяці тому +2

      @@Stefan_Boerjesson But you had to have a moan didn't you ? the moans is what alerts the CAA not the actual flying... you should of ignored it and just cracked on with what you do with your drone. its not the minority who cause rules to get placed, its those who dont even have or had a drone complain about stuff they know nothing about.. and another thing that really dont help is the goody goody's who have UA-cam Channels sprouting the CCA should do this and the CAA should do that to stop this happening and that etc. The CAA will change whatever they like when they like and nobody can stop them as they do not have to answer to joe public or silly little clubs and their daft sheeple members.

    • @Stefan_Boerjesson
      @Stefan_Boerjesson 2 місяці тому

      @@philldownes8685 Thye CAA is not in effect here but our authorities should not be neglected either.
      I don't fully agree. A few persons making really stupid things are likely to alert the authorities. A guy flew in a protected/prohibited area and got his drone shot down.
      Luckily I checked up flying in, likely, that area and found out it was way out of limits.

  • @davidharle952
    @davidharle952 2 місяці тому +1

    There will always be those that think they know better than anyone else. I sometimes wonder if some of these people actually own a drone. Ignore them.

  • @dronezone-media
    @dronezone-media 2 місяці тому +1

    And the majority that comment on VLOS have only been flying a drone 5 minutes. Well put across Gavin 👏👏👏

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому +1

      Indeed, I saw one the other day about using active track and that its not allowed over open roads. people sometimes are clueless

  • @MrRayman451
    @MrRayman451 2 місяці тому +2

    Big applause from Belgium...❤❤❤❤❤❤

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому +1

      I appreciate that!

  • @philldownes8685
    @philldownes8685 2 місяці тому

    i have said this to people so many times and they just dont get it. i took off once and flew 2.7 miles away with my drone ( Dji MIni 2 ) and i was in my car with the drone following my car and people still did not understand my drone was never any further away than 100 meters from me in my car.. so your 100% correct.. ive also set my drone to follow me in follow mode with the Maven app and gone almost 5 miles before needing to touch the sticks. i could not see the drone at all after take off and it was perfectly legal as drone was set to be 30 meters horizontal and 40 meters up Behind me set to follow and it done a magnificent job. so that was WITHOUT VLOS and legal..

  • @AdLunam
    @AdLunam 2 місяці тому +1

    I agree fully with you ! Unfortunately, fingerpointing in social media is becoming more and more common! Not only for us drone pilots, but in all sectors.
    Thankfully, you have chosen the right words, which I can only support, thank you!

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому

      I honestly think social media has given too many people the opinion they can say what they want without consequence, glad you agree with me thank you

  • @antunes2035
    @antunes2035 2 місяці тому

    I absolutely agree with you. Here in the US we have a big drone community that share good information. However unfortunately there are negative “smart police” people always questioning if some rules were broken on videos.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому

      The thing is with VLOS nobody can judge, I used to get it in my ship videos but I was flying from the tug!

  • @PhillyDroneLife
    @PhillyDroneLife 2 місяці тому

    Thank you Mate! I'm Going to use this as PROOF that TELEMETRY MEANS DIDDLY SQUAT in a video .. I'm Grateful Mate💙💙💙💙🙏🙏🙏🙏
    Mikey

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому

      Mikey! Didn’t expect to see you comment, hope you’re well my friend 👍

  • @Drone.vision
    @Drone.vision 2 місяці тому +1

    Well said Gavin, should be supporting each other , not criticising! I’ve had it on one of my videos before because I flew behind a water tower , I’d walked round abit so I could still see it! some people are unreal with nothing better to do .

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому +1

      Yep! people fail to understand the concept of moving, I often walk a few hundred meters when flying when I am trying to get somewhere quick i will fly the drone and catch it up

    • @Drone.vision
      @Drone.vision 2 місяці тому

      @@GAVINHR exactly mate, I walk aswell , never stand in the same spot , I always moving around together best view possible 👍 well hopefully a lot of people will see this and then realise 🤷🏻

  • @jonimrye5722
    @jonimrye5722 2 місяці тому

    100% behind you mate and agree totally. I have not had this personally on my channel (yet) but have had it face to face when out flying. I agree with the other comments below this. Keep going and dont let the b***ards grind you down. Best wishes Jon

  • @hugeinjapan4635
    @hugeinjapan4635 2 місяці тому +8

    Hall monitors need to step off

  • @MelodicVortexGaming
    @MelodicVortexGaming 2 місяці тому +1

    This needs more views. I'm new to the drone community, & I never even knew this was an issue. But by god is it one that needs addressing.

    • @philldownes8685
      @philldownes8685 2 місяці тому +2

      yes , far too many wanna be traffic wardens talking total cobblers and accussing people of stuff they know nothing about, as in Gavin's video demonstration All is not what it appears to be ..

  • @gfrost61
    @gfrost61 2 місяці тому +2

    Gav, these people have nothing better to do, keep up the great content mate.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому

      Cheers mate! Hope you’re well

  • @frankbuckle1958
    @frankbuckle1958 2 місяці тому

    Well said Gavin. I fly quite a lot in a boat to boat situation, travelling at 30knots and I have to keep updating Home point so as it doesn't potentially go back to a splashdown. Sometimes if its rough I'll take off from land and that could be 2000m and follow it home if I don't want to risk a hand catch. Home point is your friend if used correctly and it's got FA to do with VLOS!

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому

      Brilliant - point proven again ! Thank you for taking the time to write that

  • @ejo1960
    @ejo1960 2 місяці тому

    VLOS issues usually wouldn’t make a court case because of lack of evidence, unless an officer would be standing next to you while you are flying.

  • @daviddrew7624
    @daviddrew7624 2 місяці тому +1

    Completely 100%agree people should worry about what their doing, not what everyone else is doing. There are enough karens out there without the drone community picking fault with each other, great video, 👌

  • @kevinbrown9521
    @kevinbrown9521 2 місяці тому +1

    Hey mate totally with you. Most of us do this for fun and getting some decent footage but you will always have the the people who try to spoil things with rules and regulations, the blakeys of the world ( On the buses ref 😂) in my eyes the biggest spotter is the drone itself it can see more than we can from the ground. Blakeys get a grip. I play golf and there is some serious blakeys in that game but I think the drone Blakeys are far worse. 😂

    • @algie1962
      @algie1962 Місяць тому

      Giving away your age with the Blakey reference, sadly the fact I know who you're talking about, means I am too. 😁

  • @MrksKr
    @MrksKr 2 місяці тому

    nicely done - thank you for clearing that up for once and all!

  • @john_woto
    @john_woto 2 місяці тому +5

    Well said Gavin 👍🏼 - Drone police are so annoying and frustrating, see across all social platforms - it winds me up - they don’t know what is actually going on - “I’ve got legs”

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому +4

      Of course, they see a screen and assume, people can walk and change positions!

  • @lindsayheyes925
    @lindsayheyes925 2 місяці тому +1

    @GAVINHR You are so right, and sometimes these comments come from jurisdictions where aviation law and local regulations are quite different to those in the UK. People need to think before they comment - because they could cause a lot of trouble with the Aviation Authority for a pilot.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому +1

      Exactly, just because one regulator has certain rules it doesn't mean those rules are shared form all places with which drones are operated. Lets assume the rules are being met and let the authorities sort it out if not.

  • @w9jim
    @w9jim 2 місяці тому +1

    I agree with you, but you know very well, that there are a myriad of U-Tube videos where pilots are nowhere near VLOS. Personally, I couldn't care less, and would never mention that in a comment. I do, however call people out for flying in National Parks here in the USA.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому

      There is indeed, then people can simply report them and let the authorities deal with it - but nothing will happen because if the flight is safe and there are no incidents it will be fine

  • @kamikazekaos
    @kamikazekaos 2 місяці тому +6

    Biggest myth ever we all fly vlos my back side , but of course we wouldn't be stupid enough to post it online ......

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому +1

      Exactly!

    • @darrylrixonphotography
      @darrylrixonphotography 2 місяці тому +2

      @@kamikazekaos just like we all stick within the speed limit ALL of the time! Everyone breaks laws at sometime, just look at partygate! what is more dangerous passing on covid to the elderly or flying beyond VLOS, with the knowledge of the safety features built in.

  • @457andy
    @457andy 2 місяці тому +1

    Well said gavin, love the content of your videos please don't stop

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому

      Thank you Andy

  • @johnburns5783
    @johnburns5783 2 місяці тому +1

    Did you have permission of OFCOM to use the DJI dongle ?

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому

      Why are you taking what one person has shown you as correct? Remember the incident where the CAA gave the wrong advice regarding the bridge? How do you know “OFCOM” to geeksvana was the right advice? Just curious…

    • @johnburns5783
      @johnburns5783 2 місяці тому

      @@GAVINHR because DJI do tell you in the paperwork with the dongle that you must seek permission from various other authorities to use the mobile network

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому +1

      I know what is said thank you.

  • @cliffchurchill9426
    @cliffchurchill9426 2 місяці тому +1

    good on you Gav - proved a significant point to those !!!###??# with less !!!!!####, good on you mate

  • @michitbe
    @michitbe 2 місяці тому

    You‘re absolutely right… forget these comments… I like your videos and Tips… thx for that…

  • @gimbalair
    @gimbalair 2 місяці тому

    A point well made and one I use regularly when filming on golf courses and walking the down the fairways. However, I think more people do break the VLOS through being chancers rather than using this clever explanation and demonstration. It doesn't have to stop. Those that are the culprits know what they are doing, If someone has a bad comment but they know they were doing things legit, it will be water off a ducks back. Look at that knob who flew his mini3 4miles from old Trafford to the emirates, I doubt he walked along the roads at the same time.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому

      Oh I know I saw that today, did you see the link from Facebook? No way that was done with a mini 4 pro! Of course most people break VLOS, the equipment is ridiculously reliable, I’d rather see vlos broken by a couple of hundred meters than people fly their drones recklessly and creating bother for others.

    • @gimbalair
      @gimbalair 2 місяці тому

      @@GAVINHR the fpv guy in blackpool ‘Alexfliesdrones’ is even worse.

  • @johndukes869
    @johndukes869 2 місяці тому +1

    Bit off topic but hell Gavin the size of those stinging nettles behind you wouldn’t won’t land drone in middle of there.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому +1

      Mate they were taller than me in the section I had to walk through!

  • @Teflonfilmare
    @Teflonfilmare 2 місяці тому +2

    I'm feeling gr8 superiority over other humans pointing out speeding, rule breaking etc etc. Makes my dreadful day better.... 😂

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому +1

      haha! trust you !

  • @Candles666
    @Candles666 2 місяці тому +1

    I know for myself that at 500 metres I cant see my wee drone, my eyes arent that good so I do go past vlos always, but then i live in the mountains I know the area very well, I can see the screen just in front of me though. My drone is more likely to be attacked by a white tailed eagle as it is to crash into anyone. Love the channel bud.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому

      Thank you!

  • @kennethrich2107
    @kennethrich2107 2 місяці тому +15

    I fly all the time without my drone in VLOS. If I get caught, then I'm to blame. Everyone else who dont like it, can kiss my a$$.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому +4

      Exactly, same with speeding in a car, you get a ticket, take it on the chin!

  • @michaeldanforth3059
    @michaeldanforth3059 2 місяці тому +1

    I am so glad you brought this subject up because so many people make comment about this. And the truth is there are people that have nothing better to do with their time. Furthermore I am sure if they own a drone of any Quality I would bet every drone I own they themselves have flown way Beyond line of sight they need to put their energy in the real issues with their own life. Anyway I have always watched your videos and I appreciate them very much and will continue to support you thanks your drone friend Mike happy flying and keep the great videos coming!!!👍

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому

      Thanks Mike I appreciate your support :)

  • @michael18754
    @michael18754 2 місяці тому +1

    I am glad you made this video these people With these comments about line of sight. They're probably only small drone operators Who think they know the law flying drones Keep up the good work love your videos.💯💯💯💯💯💯👍

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому

      Thank you kindly!

  • @DannyThompson54
    @DannyThompson54 2 місяці тому +1

    Nice one Gavin. It had to be said. And you said it all very well indeed.

  • @machinegundroner9411
    @machinegundroner9411 2 місяці тому +1

    VLOS is an outdated rule. If a waiver can be issued for a pilot to ignore a certain rule, i.e. BVLOS, then the rule is null and void to begin with. The idea of "Don't fly beyond VLOS! It's dangerous!! But if you fill out this piece of paper the right way and convince us it's not dangerous, we'll let you forget the rule" is absolutely absurd. It used to be the same way with night flights and I'm hoping VLOS rules will change the same way night flying rules changed.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому +1

      Wish I had of said that. in fact I didn't even think of it like that, I am pinning this comment.

  • @garymcconnell1072
    @garymcconnell1072 2 місяці тому +1

    Well Said was a great video and helped me get my dongle up and going today

  • @jameshumphries7890
    @jameshumphries7890 2 місяці тому +1

    HELLO, that was about the nicest way to tell people to butt out of something that concerns them NOT. People has to be the controller of other people, JEALOUSY, TATTLETALES,

  • @darrenstakes8858
    @darrenstakes8858 2 місяці тому +2

    Pretty sure on the last video u mentioned u had spotters anyways

  • @TB_Production_aka_TB_76
    @TB_Production_aka_TB_76 2 місяці тому +2

    Well said Gavin 👏🏻👍🏻
    I don't know what it is with drone communities - Here in Denmark, we have multiple Facebook groups for this, and the tone in them are often very bad with people playing police officers with no no knowledge about the flights what so ever 🤦🏻‍♂️
    I'm also in several motorcycle groups, where the members always are helpful and are speaking in a nice way to another 👍🏻
    Different hobbies, and very different ways to interact?!?

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому +2

      You are right I have no idea what the issue is, as long as a flight isn't dangerous and its safe then let people get on with it.

  • @Yeshua73732
    @Yeshua73732 2 місяці тому

    What sim card were you using gav?

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому

      I used Sky in the dongle and O2 in my phone

    • @Yeshua73732
      @Yeshua73732 2 місяці тому

      @@GAVINHR cheers gav! Did you have to ask for a specific simcard with sky? Ive seen elswhere kn youtube theyre saying about you need to ask you provider for a specific sim card?

  • @the_bloke_that_cuts_the_grass
    @the_bloke_that_cuts_the_grass 2 місяці тому +1

    Good point well made. Social media police get kicks out of trying to show that they know best. This vid shows that all is not as it may appear 👍

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому +1

      Yep! cheers for watching and taking the time to comment

  • @daz51173
    @daz51173 2 місяці тому

    Well thanks for the video I didn'tknow that at all, thanks for the information

  • @bogunio
    @bogunio 2 місяці тому +2

    Great episode - you're absolutely right. I also have such comments on my channel - then I reply that I use binoculars or a telescope to track the drone. Regards !

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому

      Thank you for taking the time to comment and watch its appreciated, just ignore them comments.

    • @GuysPlayingWithTools
      @GuysPlayingWithTools 2 місяці тому +1

      Don't say that. VLOS rules say "unaided eyes". Tell them what I do, I have good eyesight, I follow it as needed, I have s spotter... or my favorite response to them... ignoring them and not giving them the attention their Mom's obviously didn't give them when they were young. 🤣

    • @philldownes8685
      @philldownes8685 2 місяці тому +2

      OH and one very valid point is that it says in the rules is " the operator must not use any aids other than normal spectacles".... and then it says you can have a spotter close to you so they can communicate with you ,but does not mention anything about if the spotter can or cannot use a telescope or binoculars or spotting scope !!!

    • @GuysPlayingWithTools
      @GuysPlayingWithTools 2 місяці тому

      @@philldownes8685 oohhhh, a technicality. 🙂
      Technically correct is the best kind of correct!

  • @Goldie644
    @Goldie644 2 місяці тому +2

    Sadly there are 'holier than thou' types whose sole aim in life seems to be to complain about what other people do 😡 As far as VLOS goes I suspect most of them don't actually fly a drone.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому +1

      Most likely, sits on the shelf whilst criticising others

  • @DonHenshall
    @DonHenshall 2 місяці тому +1

    Good for you. 100% agree with you. 👍

  • @lefthandscott
    @lefthandscott 2 місяці тому +1

    Well said that man!! 👏 👏 👏

  • @tommystravels64
    @tommystravels64 2 місяці тому

    Great vlog Gavin! And well said fella! 🤘🏻

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому

      Thank you 🙌

  • @grizzlybear2702
    @grizzlybear2702 2 місяці тому +2

    My only concern is that if authorities see the video they might investigate. Appart from that who cares if you fly beyond velos. Even if it's illegal how will they enforce the law. I don't even follow the 250 gram limit as no police officer is going to put it on a scale

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому +4

      The main people actually policing this hobby are the drone users themselves, Unless there is a drone being flown where it should not (FRZ) Or injures somebody or causes a threat to manned aircraft nobody is going to prison. simple as that

    • @Stefan_Boerjesson
      @Stefan_Boerjesson 2 місяці тому

      Who has never been speeding the car "a few knots"?

  • @MavericksDrone
    @MavericksDrone 2 місяці тому

    Too many hoops to jump through regarding this dongle and the UK's Ofcom, so will stick to my occusync 4 which is quite good... I reckon majority of drone pilots fly without a spotter and beyond BVLOS many times, including the hoorah Henry's finger waving because their day to day lives are so sad anyway. Good vid to put them right Gavin , cheers.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому

      Yeah it appears that could be the case and fully agree with you most will never need it o4 is good enough for most environments but it was good to show what’s possible ! I’m still unsure on the OFCOM thing still

  • @cheekyoscar1353
    @cheekyoscar1353 2 місяці тому +1

    yes you do have a valid point . but Personally as long as you know you're all good that's all that matters .... 👍

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому +1

      Literally the point I am making, lets assume drone operators are doing the right thing rather than others constantly looking for reasons to say they are not. Cheers for the comment

    • @cheekyoscar1353
      @cheekyoscar1353 2 місяці тому

      @@GAVINHR nothing personal towards you by the way . I think you do a great job . So please don't take it to heart ...

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому +1

      No I get you 100%, I don’t so much care about myself I can just delete or ignore people but it’s the constant negativity I see on others that’s annoying

  • @whatsmine7848
    @whatsmine7848 2 місяці тому

    With VLOS a lot of us do bend the rules but a lot of us don’t film it and place it on UA-cam,as for auditors they’re using drones to try antagonising/annoying the police, firms, etc just to increase their channel rating.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому

      Auditors are an interesting topic because despite all the sketchy stuff - they are not convinced of anything as they don’t break any laws

  • @the4dudleys
    @the4dudleys 2 місяці тому

    Another great video Gavin. The internet just breeds 🔔 ends!!!

  • @JohnnyBouchier
    @JohnnyBouchier 2 місяці тому +1

    Well said Gavin.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому

      Thank you!

  • @colinrobinson1960
    @colinrobinson1960 2 місяці тому

    Hi gavin just keep up with all the great work you do and the info you give pal 👍 😀

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому +1

      Thanks, will do!

  • @Feintgames
    @Feintgames 2 місяці тому +1

    Everyone's a critic. I shoot photos for a living, and I am sometimes asked by producers, "Don't you want to move over or crouch down to get this other angle..." when they are clearly not looking through the viewfinder and seeing what I'm seeing. I'll often show them what I'm capturing just to shut down their fears that I don't know what I'm doing. I think the drone world has been ruined by the Karenification of non-drone operators and by the immensely stupid things people have done with drones to ruin it for the rest of us. I don't know if we can ever achieve the respect level of pilots who are inside their aircraft. There are just too many cooks in the kitchen now.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому

      Absolutely agree with you

  • @waymor2460
    @waymor2460 2 місяці тому +1

    Definitely some vlos police out there. Let’s face it, fly your mini 3 pro straight overhead to 120m and ask someone to find it. They can’t because it’s impossible to see even though technically it’s 1m in distance. Also there are some prominent YTers who criticize other videos for lack of vlos.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому

      Yep, I honestly don't care what people do, its up to them, if something happens then they take it on the chin, most flights are done safely and thats the important thing

  • @hammadahmed1977
    @hammadahmed1977 2 місяці тому +1

    Very well said in the video

  • @droneuseruk
    @droneuseruk 2 місяці тому +1

    Well said Gavin 👍

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому

      Thank you!

  • @cliffchurchill9426
    @cliffchurchill9426 2 місяці тому +1

    For those who make negative comments based on assumptions without facts - DONT ASSUME (as you make an ASS of U but not ME.!

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому

      Love that saying!

  • @tugadashcamsuk5946
    @tugadashcamsuk5946 2 місяці тому +1

    Well said Gavin. I think it was a good lesson!
    Cheers

  • @Poul.Ishoey
    @Poul.Ishoey 2 місяці тому +1

    100% agree with Gavin.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому +1

      Thank you

  • @andrewskowronski6283
    @andrewskowronski6283 2 місяці тому +1

    DJI just completed a video on the Summit of Everest including base camps to the top.
    VLOS is a common sense approach to safe drone flight, however can be extended with the correct approaches as you mentioned.
    To many damn Karens.....!!
    Cheers!

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому +1

      Indeed I saw it and I agree completely

  • @BazFairbrother
    @BazFairbrother 2 місяці тому +1

    Well said Gavin👏🏼👏🏼

  • @danamacie167
    @danamacie167 2 місяці тому

    You’re too nice, I would reply with VLOFU!

  • @vince-n
    @vince-n 2 місяці тому

    being a model aircraft flyer, having VLOS means that you have full control of the aircraft and visibility of the airspace around it...if you can't see it you don't have full control...having a camera in FPV view is not sufficient to be in control of the aircraft as you cannot see the airspace around it... this is why VLOS exists...sure its ok to fly a little VLOS at times but not all the time...i would rather not get in the way of a police helicopter, air ambulance, paraglider or low flying plane...this is ehy VLOS exists...if it didnt then it is a risk to manned aircraft eho have priority in the airspace

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому

      I completely agree, I’m not suggesting or promoting people pushing VLOS or not adhering to it, more that people can’t use the indicator as distance and need to stop making the constant comments, it’s very sad people have had that much grief they no longer post to UA-cam

  • @bernardgagnon9836
    @bernardgagnon9836 2 місяці тому +1

    Hello from Québec City Canada. Here it’s the same bs. I think I know why these policeman keep talking about vlos. At home their mummy have so much control on them that they have to control somebody else. This is so easy to go on a keyboard insted of face to face. Keep up the good work !!!
    Bernard Gagnon

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому

      Thank You kindly for your comment and watching

  • @chadgilmore5046
    @chadgilmore5046 2 місяці тому +1

    I was watching your video you are 100% right there is so many snowflakes that would rather fault you rather than watch your videos and learn something...Keep up the great video's👍

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому

      Once again - another great point, literally I reviewed an innovative new product and rather than focus on that they just moan about something irrelevant based on their perception.

  • @alpepper5997
    @alpepper5997 2 місяці тому

    Great episode. It really does hammer home all is not as it seems.
    Love your channel 👍

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому

      Thanks 👍

  • @AnotherTrucking
    @AnotherTrucking 2 місяці тому

    Well said, i think auditors are causing the most hassle for drone pilots at the minute you wont ever stop the keyb warriors annoyingly just a case of ignore the idiots and dont bite but people reporting you can cause unnecessary hassle then its proving you was in the right

  • @kensteele3363
    @kensteele3363 2 місяці тому +4

    good luck. this will continue until the silly law is changed.

  • @nigelhaines404
    @nigelhaines404 2 місяці тому +1

    Flying camera drones isn't my main pastime, scuba diving is. Been diving for 50 years all around the world, flying drones for 7 years which greatly enhances the land & underwater videos I shoot in some fairly exotic locations. Do I sometimes fly BVLOS? Certainly, if required in appropriate circumstances. Example, in the Bird's Head peninsula off the western tip of West Papua, Indonesia I wanted to video a small, uninhabited islet some 2 kms out to sea away from the eco resort on another small island that I was staying on. Flew my Air 2S over the Dampier Strait out to sea against the wind to get the shot, no boats around, no crowds, buildings nor sea birds nor aircraft. Could I see my drone let alone its orientatation? Nope! Was it a danger to anyone? Nope!
    Had it been the Maldive Islands in the Indian Ocean with regular seaplanes shuttling tourists from island to island it'd be a different matter. Situations are different, so horses for courses I say, until such time as the powers that be stipulate all drones must be physically connected by a 200 metre tether, I'll fly safely no more than 120 metres high nor near NFZs, but VLOS in all circumstances? Get real.

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому +1

      Literally, exactly! nothing to add. thanks for commenting!

    • @nigelhaines404
      @nigelhaines404 2 місяці тому

      @@GAVINHR If you ever decide to fly your drones anywhere except the crowded sky above Britain, I can give you a few locations where the flight restrictions aren't as onerous as in the UK and the scenery is a fair bit more attractive, the climate too!

  • @juanperez-bo5gd
    @juanperez-bo5gd 2 місяці тому +1

    Tienes toda la razón. Windswept Robert hizo un video tratando ese tema hace un tiempo

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому +1

      Yes I very much agree with him

  • @TheXone7
    @TheXone7 2 місяці тому

    Very good points.

  • @HikeFly22
    @HikeFly22 2 місяці тому +1

    Awesome video.

  • @ecosseskyview
    @ecosseskyview 2 місяці тому

    spot on m8 ..i get it all the time but travel on ebike keeping drone in sight but looks like ive flown miles

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому

      yep! you know where it is and essentially what its clear of, thats the important bit. if its safe then thats the most important thing

  • @ruis6975
    @ruis6975 2 місяці тому

    I agree 100% with you! These stupid comments about BVLOS must end! Thank for the video 🙂

  • @Hyperbod777
    @Hyperbod777 2 місяці тому

    Fabulous video mate 👍. I watch loads but don't comment much but this made me get involved !
    I think it's down to lack of education and lack of understanding of how our drones work.
    But well said 👌.
    And well demonstrated 👍.
    Really hope this puts some haters in their place 👏👏👏

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому

      Thanks 👍

  • @UKBUBBLERS
    @UKBUBBLERS 2 місяці тому +1

    Well, I've been watching gavin since day dot, and he definitely plays by the rules, so gavin just ignore these comments, and they will go somewhere else 😂

    • @GAVINHR
      @GAVINHR  2 місяці тому +1

      Thank you my friend, I think they may well do as the point I have shown may possibly make people think twice! not just for me but for others