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  • "THE TEMPORAL FRONT"
    #STOSS
    Star Trek Online is full of stories and call-backs to the TV series of days gone and to come. Set in the Star Trek universe's 25th century it places you in the center of these events in an ever expanding series of tales.
    Join me as I fulfill the role of a Starfleet Captain, Mark Hale from the 23rd century as we explore the 25th century!
    If you liked this there's always these to try out:
    Star Trek Online Chapters:
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    Romulan Mystery: goo.gl/DpGnmb
    Cardassian Struggle: goo.gl/UtyfT8
    Borg Advance: • BORG Debris | Star Tre...
    New Romulus: • Romulan Survivors | St...
    Solanae Dyson Sphere: • We've All Been Here Be...
    Lost Chapters: • PRESERVERS and The BRE...
    Iconian War: • SELA's Schemes | Star ...
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    Star Trek Online developed by Cryptic Studios and Perfect World.
    Star Trek Enterprise/Voyager/Deep Space Nine/Discovery and The Next Generation are all owned by Paramount Pictures/CBS and distributed by CBS.
    This Video is for educational purposes with commentary.
    "Eternal Terminal" Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com)
    Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 License
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 151

  • @Captain11890
    @Captain11890 3 роки тому +123

    “Greeting Mr. President! Mark Hale, Admiral Quinn’s Constant Migrane!”
    I want this on a coffee mug now!

    • @GeorgeTGF
      @GeorgeTGF 3 роки тому +8

      Yes!

    • @Chaosmage42
      @Chaosmage42 3 роки тому +11

      You need that to be the quote under dedication plaque on the bridge

    • @ozsdcontentcreator1068
      @ozsdcontentcreator1068 2 роки тому +1

      He’s definitely a migraine because in some of his channels other videos that is exactly what he gives me unfortunately

    • @TheCrackedFirebird
      @TheCrackedFirebird Рік тому +2

      At least he's honest and gets the job done.

  • @matthewshipley739
    @matthewshipley739 3 роки тому +48

    "Admiral Quinn's constant migraine"
    Just goes to show that if it could've been done, Mark Hale would never have gotten as far as he did in Starfleet

  • @occultatumquaestio5226
    @occultatumquaestio5226 3 роки тому +50

    24:36 ; Mark *Anderson* Hale.
    This is the first time I have noticed that Anderson is Mark Hale's middle name. Quite fitting actually, and I can think of no Mass Effect captain more deserving.

  • @ptonpc
    @ptonpc 3 роки тому +31

    "Your reputation precedes you Admiral Hale. Please don't kill me"

  • @Werezilla
    @Werezilla 3 роки тому +42

    Hale: So I'm a time agent....
    Jarok: Is that how you were able to recognize the inside of my quarters despite having never been there before?
    Hale: Damn it Gaius, you promised you wouldn't tell her!

  • @skywise001
    @skywise001 3 роки тому +34

    Quinn "...your presence there could ensure the summit's success."
    Hale "Could?"

    • @andrewtaylor940
      @andrewtaylor940 3 роки тому +6

      "So make sure you bring enough grenades to this summit!"

  • @occultatumquaestio5226
    @occultatumquaestio5226 3 роки тому +37

    I do enjoy the fact that this story arc has many missions that engage with diplomacy. It provides both variety to the gameplay and helps the game enhance it's tone of Star Trek-ness.

    • @qwellen7521
      @qwellen7521 3 роки тому +4

      Even though it highlights the budgetary & technical limitations of game, it’s nice that combat has been more desensitised given how combat heavy the early game quests are.

  • @shingshongshamalama
    @shingshongshamalama 3 роки тому +17

    The "we don't have much time" thing always gets me.
    Dude you've got centuries.

  • @LyonHall1
    @LyonHall1 3 роки тому +34

    "I miss the lukari they were nice"
    me too CI me too

  • @Sofus.
    @Sofus. 3 роки тому +23

    I really like these Star Trek Online Stories it gives the channel a TV episode feel

    • @adminadmin8992
      @adminadmin8992 3 роки тому +5

      Yes. They are curently better than new tv series.

    • @chrissonofpear1384
      @chrissonofpear1384 3 роки тому +1

      @@adminadmin8992 At least Discovery has improved. Still a long haul, though.

    • @enterprisethesylveon5787
      @enterprisethesylveon5787 2 роки тому

      @@chrissonofpear1384 a LONG haul away

    • @valor1omega
      @valor1omega Рік тому

      Discovery is garbage and the only way to get better is made non-canon and thrown away.

  • @Falchion1984
    @Falchion1984 3 роки тому +18

    "Sorry, I don't know what Mark Twain has to do with time travel and Star Trek".
    ...well, there was that episode Time's Arrow.

  • @Thrawn215
    @Thrawn215 3 роки тому +13

    10:00 Si vis pace, Para Bellum " If you want peace, prepare for war" DSC 1x08

    • @gallendugall8913
      @gallendugall8913 3 роки тому

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Si_vis_pacem,_para_bellum

  • @VideogameFrames
    @VideogameFrames 3 роки тому +24

    It’s so cool to hear the original voices out of so many characters

    • @nathanielheilmann7351
      @nathanielheilmann7351 3 роки тому +10

      Yeah, Cryptic has gone out of their way to try to get as many of the original cast as they could. It makes certain characters much more bittersweet.

    • @valor1omega
      @valor1omega Рік тому

      ​@@nathanielheilmann7351
      I agree, Aaron will be greatly missed.

  • @andrewtaylor940
    @andrewtaylor940 3 роки тому +12

    You would think that the Federation might actually notice that ANY Peace Conference that they send Admiral Hale to, ends in gunfire, grenades, and timey wimey genocidey. Granted these are the same intergalactic genius's that think packing Starship Bridge Consoles with thermal explosives' makes them run better. "Dear Admiral Hale, in recognition of all of your work, and all you have done to... I mean for the peoples of this Galazies, we are happy and relived to assign you to our fleets newest ship. The USS/IKS Gok'Tad! The Ferry of the Dead! We figure this will cut out the middle man and avoid having to keep sending the Death Ship out to follow you."

  • @tba113
    @tba113 3 роки тому +16

    "Fellow delegates, we stand at a crossroads..."
    [Klingon ambassador chokes on his drink and collapses]
    Thirty-three seconds this time, from the delegates sitting down at 14:20 to disaster striking at 14:53. That _has_ to be a record for Hale's bad luck ruining yet another ceremony.

    • @daveh7720
      @daveh7720 3 роки тому +5

      Damn! I had forty seconds in the pool.

    • @isleapyhunter930
      @isleapyhunter930 3 роки тому +4

      At least this wasnt his fault

  • @PREPFORIT
    @PREPFORIT 3 роки тому +28

    I really like this Online story series.

  • @SilverAranda
    @SilverAranda 3 роки тому +9

    You did a god job Admiral, well a better job that other times the time line continum didn't blow up.

  • @joeottsoulbikes415
    @joeottsoulbikes415 3 роки тому +8

    It's funny how watching you play this game for me is like watching an episode of Star Trek on TV. Thank you for editing and sharing.

    • @danielseelye6005
      @danielseelye6005 3 роки тому +2

      The other cool thing for me is his commentary is so good that it can double as a radio drama so I can enjoy it while exercising.

  • @nathanielheilmann7351
    @nathanielheilmann7351 3 роки тому +22

    Huh, having Rom, Garak and Kira is new. Cryptic must have added them to the mission following the ViL expansion.

    • @danielseelye6005
      @danielseelye6005 3 роки тому +2

      I'm still trying to wrap my head around _Kai_ Kira Nerys. Not something I would've thought off the top of my head. It does make sense, what with her having served for seven years at the feet of the Emissary would give more clout than anything else but it's still "weird".

  • @whirledpeaz5758
    @whirledpeaz5758 3 роки тому +16

    That Tellurite Security Guard's greeting must have been heavily rehearsed. How contrary to typical Tellurites. They are well known for their love of debate and insult.

    • @Qardo
      @Qardo 3 роки тому +8

      Males love to debate and insult. Females are a bit more polite but know how to throw an insult or two when need be.

  • @Peregrine57
    @Peregrine57 3 роки тому +7

    It's been a few weeks since I played through this mission, but the main thing I remember is Walker running around from console to console, and not being able to find him in the wonky shaped Na'kuhl ship interior when we're supposed to be covering him.

    • @Corbomite_Meatballs
      @Corbomite_Meatballs 3 роки тому +2

      Even when he does that, he's hitting 4 different ones, and you can create choke points to keep the Nakhul from overwhelming you, if you're careful.

    • @gallendugall8913
      @gallendugall8913 3 роки тому +1

      @@Corbomite_Meatballs Yeah they come at you in a pattern forward right right left, back right left left. Worth repeating for the excellent ground set. The two piece is great on away team members as it generates a draw fire decoy and grants temporary invulnerability. The three piece just adds a meh seeking mine ability.

    • @gallendugall8913
      @gallendugall8913 3 роки тому +1

      @@Corbomite_Meatballs Yeah they come at you in a pattern forward right right left, back right left left. Worth repeating for the excellent ground set. The two piece is great on away team members as it generates a draw fire decoy and grants temporary invulnerability. The three piece just adds a meh seeking mine ability.

  • @4thImpulse
    @4thImpulse 3 роки тому +3

    Hale's dialog is hilarious, now probably more than ever.

  • @GeorgeTGF
    @GeorgeTGF 3 роки тому +8

    As we near the the precipice of the 100th episode of the STOSS series, our collective hope, across all races that stand as part of this group, and many others who are here merely as observers, quietly hope for an extra special episode to mark such a glorious achievement.

    • @Janoha17
      @Janoha17 3 роки тому +2

      I think Episode 100 will be Ragnarok.

    • @nathanielheilmann7351
      @nathanielheilmann7351 3 роки тому +2

      @@Janoha17 Fitting for Hale considering that everything he has been has been leading him to a very important battle

  • @seskal8595
    @seskal8595 3 роки тому +6

    I'm always happy to see a new upload from you!

  • @SoDevious
    @SoDevious 3 роки тому +8

    Lmao, Rule 34.
    I love these videos, I wait for the next episode in this series with anticipation.. I wish I could like one hundred times!

  • @christopherg2347
    @christopherg2347 3 роки тому +8

    8:00 You mean the one were someone first killed the Klingon chancelor, and then tried to kill the Federation president? Well, one can hope :D
    22:10 Picard used that quote in First Contact: "Reports of my assimilation have been greatly exagerated." I doubt he never used it at other ocassions.
    24:20 You mean will have seen in Enterprise? Because it is his future but a alternate timelines past.
    27:40 He was preventing the Armiger from being blow up by the enemy reinforcements.

  • @SaffiyyaMuslimah
    @SaffiyyaMuslimah 3 роки тому +3

    I think it does make sense for Kira to become Kai--not only does she care deeply about her people, she was the confidant of the Emissary (which made her important enough for even Kai Winn to seek her counsel), the vessel of the Prophets during the incident with the Kosst Amojan, and the lover of Vedic Bareil. After Winn is outed as having murdered people in the service of the Pah-wraiths, had a brief affair Dukat (even though she didn't know his true identity), and basically sealed Sisko in the fire caves, I'm sure that people will with hindsight see Bariel as the rightful/true kai and the victim of Winn. All of that together makes her the most theologically significant person left standing. Even if she doesn't want the position, people will still treat her with respect and deference for those reasons. Just like Sisko didn't seek out the title of Emissary and was forced to adapt to it, Kira could be thrown into the spotlight and forced to adapt.

  • @daverage4729
    @daverage4729 3 роки тому +6

    Star Trek Online...providing us with better storylines than DIscovery since 2010. :)

  • @darkwingduke1631
    @darkwingduke1631 3 роки тому +10

    Im glad to see that Rom and I agree on Rule 34

  • @ISAF_Ace
    @ISAF_Ace 3 роки тому +10

    Are you planning to do something special for episode 100 or not?
    Hale will probably convince time to get a drive with jarok for that episode

  • @Parshath20
    @Parshath20 3 роки тому +3

    I love this on-going series :D

  • @edgarbrooks7695
    @edgarbrooks7695 Рік тому

    I wish we could do more of choosing a comical response like you adlib sometimes. it's too funny

  • @CaptainRhodor
    @CaptainRhodor Рік тому +1

    I barely scraped through this mission the first time, and then I grinded it an additional four agonizing times to get the shields for my BOFFs. And it wasn't until my third try that I managed to prevent any ships from using the portal. It required my full fighter wing, deployable escort, and a heavy antiproton sat to guard my back and destroy incoming ships while I went nose hot on the station and plastered it with everything I had.
    Also, poor Admiral Hale sounds like he's going to cry when he's informed that Archer stopped the general XD

    • @barrybend7189
      @barrybend7189 Рік тому

      Stock Legendary Akira and Kodai fighters. 20 seconds of the portal and it was closed to the others. It was tough when the fleet arrived though.

    • @CaptainRhodor
      @CaptainRhodor Рік тому

      @@barrybend7189 These days with my fully built tetryon beam boat/shield tank I can crack the portal in under a minute

    • @barrybend7189
      @barrybend7189 Рік тому

      @@CaptainRhodor yeah but 20 seconds with just the maelstrom torpedoes and torpedo spread 3. The cutscene of the small Nahkul fleet was just over and it was at half health.

  • @ohnolookwho241
    @ohnolookwho241 3 роки тому +2

    loving this intro section reminds me of the Expanse's intro.

  • @jannegrey593
    @jannegrey593 3 роки тому +3

    I love this series!

  • @kristofbe1
    @kristofbe1 2 місяці тому

    I can't help but hear "USS Pasta" every time.

  • @dominicsaint-victor3905
    @dominicsaint-victor3905 3 роки тому +2

    Suprised you got through the whole mission in one episode
    Great video!

  • @obilesk
    @obilesk 3 роки тому +2

    God i live for these vids

  • @chase2806
    @chase2806 3 роки тому +5

    Do you plan on doing a refit for this vessel?

  • @valor1omega
    @valor1omega 3 роки тому +3

    I took a carrier to deal with the destiny, I am thankful glad I grinded the iconian missions for their gear.
    I also replaced the fighters for the larger defiant like ships.
    Made the space fight much easier.
    In the ship itself My character is engineering so I had drones and turrets made the fight easier.
    I never liked science nor tactical officers, felt that they had too many drawbacks compare to eng.

    • @barrybend7189
      @barrybend7189 Рік тому +1

      I recently did it with the Legendary Akira. The fighters and the Akira itself were very good. The portal was taken out in 20 seconds due to the maelstrom torpedoes.

  • @KuDastardly
    @KuDastardly 3 роки тому +3

    Picard also quoted Jefferson too.

  • @SlashDotDash121
    @SlashDotDash121 3 роки тому +1

    This is my highlight thing to watch and relax to in a bath on Thursday 👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @HitodamaKyrie
    @HitodamaKyrie 3 роки тому +7

    3:10 "Aww, dang" Bezarr probably.
    11:00 Eh, I think the 21st century Earth's version of Rule 34 is much more amusing.

  • @patrickasplund
    @patrickasplund 3 роки тому +2

    Question- In Discovery, when they get flung into the future, Why Hasn't future Starfleet figured out how the Iconian Gates work, and not replicated them???

  • @nathanielheilmann7351
    @nathanielheilmann7351 3 роки тому +2

    And Hale was one Temporal Agent that Walker was talking about.

  • @antcow1239
    @antcow1239 3 роки тому +6

    N'kul: Death to the xenos!!!
    Imperium of man: (Tears of angry pride!)

  • @jodybranson925
    @jodybranson925 3 роки тому +3

    If only you had assimilated please beam's, this fight would be a piece of cake and your ship would last longer.

    • @BlueSatoshi
      @BlueSatoshi 3 роки тому +3

      A torp boat's arguably more effective

    • @jodybranson925
      @jodybranson925 3 роки тому +2

      @@BlueSatoshi Bal ul antiproton beam's would be less for haul regeneration and more on damage.

    • @barrybend7189
      @barrybend7189 Рік тому

      Me with stock Legendary Akira: Torpedoes and heavy beams.

  • @cmdrtianyilin8107
    @cmdrtianyilin8107 3 роки тому +9

    Na'kuhls are the Krogans of Star Trek. One had Genophase and they have their star blown out by the Slarians.. uhm, Tholians.

    • @Lans32485
      @Lans32485 3 роки тому +1

      Not exactly a solid comparison since the Tholians aren't part of the Alliance yet the Na'khul blame us as well as them anyway wheras the Salarians were solidly a Citadel race.

    • @cmdrtianyilin8107
      @cmdrtianyilin8107 3 роки тому +3

      @@Lans32485 I think by signing temporal accords, Tholians become something similar to citadel race, if you remove time travel from the equation.

    • @barrybend7189
      @barrybend7189 2 роки тому +1

      The Tholians are the only race other than Iconians to not use time travel. They know of it but don't use it. But hilariously they caused the mess with the Nakul to begin with.

  • @cormacmacsuibhne2867
    @cormacmacsuibhne2867 3 роки тому +4

    0:02 sauron

  • @RomLoneWolf23
    @RomLoneWolf23 3 роки тому +4

    The tragic irony is that the Nakul's attempts at avenging themselves by attacking civilizations in the past is most likely what led to the Tholians trying to wipe them out by extinguishing their star... ...which is what provoked the Nakul in the first place.

    • @Lans32485
      @Lans32485 3 роки тому +2

      Not likely, EXACTLY what happened, since an attack on the Tholians in the 23rd century led to their actions against them in the 25th.

    • @Lans32485
      @Lans32485 3 роки тому

      The cycle of revenge is a big theme in most of the major story arcs.

  • @bigdaddydons6241
    @bigdaddydons6241 Рік тому

    I don't really remember Rom and Garak interacting very much during the run of DS9 and i can understand why.
    But i can only imagine how VERY interested garak would be in Rom after he became Nagus

  • @randomlyentertaining8287
    @randomlyentertaining8287 3 роки тому +2

    Those who beat their swords into plowshares, end up using those plowshares under the swords of their conquerors.

  • @robertdougherty349
    @robertdougherty349 3 роки тому +5

    No alliance summit is complete without the ceremonial "standing on a desk".
    Get your lore straight, man.
    :D

  • @neon5162
    @neon5162 3 роки тому +3

    can you do Pakleds for one of the species videos please

  • @octoberboiy
    @octoberboiy 3 роки тому +2

    How in the world did ROM become Grand Nagus? And I’m glad Narys became Kai.

  • @browningcq
    @browningcq 6 місяців тому

    Considering how every summit/meeting/signing/etc that he attends gets attacked, you’d think that they would stop inviting him to parties.

  • @ckmbyrnes
    @ckmbyrnes 3 роки тому +5

    The Na'kuhl time portal looks like the Vorlon thirdspace portal. If it is they are flying into a world of hurt.
    ua-cam.com/video/F0A8xgn6r88/v-deo.html

  • @Eucep
    @Eucep 3 роки тому +1

    J'mpok survived. Well, I wonder if he did. What if he did not escape this all unscathed and this was the real attack, but way more subtle?

    • @isleapyhunter930
      @isleapyhunter930 3 роки тому +1

      The last chapter so far couldnt happen then

    • @Eucep
      @Eucep 3 роки тому

      @@isleapyhunter930 My implication was that someone messed with his head, making him more loony in the current storyline.

    • @isleapyhunter930
      @isleapyhunter930 3 роки тому

      @@Eucep sorry, that would actually make later stories make sense, if you want spoilers thats all ima give to ya until you say yea

  • @PongoXBongo
    @PongoXBongo 3 роки тому +1

    Gotta love slow countdown self-distructs for the sake of drama. Why not just "3, 2, 1, boom!"?

    • @barrybend7189
      @barrybend7189 Рік тому

      Because it's the equivalent of naval scuttling charges.

  • @kfcroc18
    @kfcroc18 3 роки тому +2

    What happens if you fly into the time portal?

  • @matthewjay660
    @matthewjay660 3 роки тому +1

    Rick, can we please see some B reels of you dying?

  • @zico739
    @zico739 3 роки тому

    Kira!

  • @superbatzbatazr7723
    @superbatzbatazr7723 3 роки тому +4

    Hey could you add some first-person talking like right shield fire torpedoes in like first person view inside the ship

  • @stingyblue8189
    @stingyblue8189 2 роки тому

    Is this your series or an actual series that’s part of the Star Trek canon?

  • @leadingauctions8440
    @leadingauctions8440 3 роки тому +3

    These video and timeline are soooooooo much better than the STD which has infected Star Trek.

    • @Corbomite_Meatballs
      @Corbomite_Meatballs 3 роки тому +1

      Honestly, CBS owns STO and the storylines therein. They could've lifted the bulk of it, made some tweaks, and saved some cash on their writer's room and 25 producer credits.

  • @stingyblue8189
    @stingyblue8189 2 роки тому

    Is this the 25th Century and how long do Ferengi live?

  • @DonnieZX10R
    @DonnieZX10R 3 місяці тому

    What rifle is Hale using?

  • @salilbhatnagar
    @salilbhatnagar 3 роки тому +2

    I got a feeling that after year of the klingon, there will be a new klingon chancellor in sto

  • @Mikanojo
    @Mikanojo 3 роки тому +1

    With time travel forward and backward becoming no more than a matter of activating a "temporal shift" drive,
    what stops people with access to this technology from embarking on personal agendas?
    Going back in time to stop their former selves from making a horrible mistake for example,
    stopping an accident from happening in order to save lives,
    or even going into the future to steal medicines to heal horrible sicknesses of the past?
    There is also the constant threat of evil intent,
    going back in time to murder some one's parents before they were born,
    or changing a situation so that the winners lose and the losers win, in order to affect a long chain of events?
    Governments could be overthrown by stopping them before they began.
    Absolutely there would be ripples, possible other, unforeseen consequences,
    but that would not stop some one who really only cared about their own plans.
    The Temporal Accords? That is just politics.
    Would some one else signing an agreement be enough to stop you
    if you were trying to save the life of some one you loved?
    or if you thought you could prevent an atrocity from ever happening?

  • @saint-g7449
    @saint-g7449 3 роки тому +1

    2nd

  • @edgarbrooks7695
    @edgarbrooks7695 3 роки тому

    telurites are supposed to be gruff and not nice, sto go that part messed up , lol

    • @barrybend7189
      @barrybend7189 Рік тому

      Meanwhile Skaverin: THAT'S GOING IN THE BOOK OF GRUDGES!

  • @pearsegallagher106
    @pearsegallagher106 3 роки тому +1

    algorithm comment

  • @callumashton2469
    @callumashton2469 2 роки тому

    Humans have a very different rule 34

  • @dor4610
    @dor4610 3 роки тому

    Why is kira the kai nonononononono

  • @JustPlainRex
    @JustPlainRex 3 роки тому

    Hey

  • @trekaddict
    @trekaddict 3 роки тому +2

    Sorry, but I'm just not buying Kira in that office. Was she religious? Yes, but no more so than most Bajorans, and at the same time, she always came across as much too practical, on the nose and in the end, secular, more the sort who would make the Militia her life.
    EDIT: I'd buy her as a diplomat, as Bajor's Ambassador to the Federation Council, but not as this. Much too out of the blue.
    EDIT EDIT: Garak is the man. I will die on that hill.

    • @Janoha17
      @Janoha17 3 роки тому +1

      The Kai is a spiritual leader and major diplomat for Bajor. And I suspect part of it was as a favor to Sisko.
      .
      .
      .
      .
      .
      (Spoiler Alert: Kai Opaka is freed from the planet she was trapped on during the Gamma Quadrant arc, and Kira happily gives her back her position as Kai, returning to Starfleet to help with the current crisis.)

    • @trekaddict
      @trekaddict 3 роки тому

      @@Janoha17 I know, but IMO, canon Kira is too disillusioned with the machinery to don it.

    • @vexile1239
      @vexile1239 10 місяців тому

      Garak is the kind of being that would happily accept you taking the eternal sleep for him, just do not expect any gratitude

  • @amandamills4133
    @amandamills4133 3 роки тому +1

    That Telarite Woman was not A very convincing example of one of her species, especially being a descendent of Gral. she was way too perky then how most of them are portrayed, and not confrontational in the slightest. Definitely not a typical Telarite

  • @wolfbane7497
    @wolfbane7497 3 роки тому +1

    You know I really don't like the nakul I mean don't get me wrong they have a right to be angry but. I think it's the federation's fault for not allowing them to go back in time and fix their sun. And prevent this whole thing from happening. They were much rather have them as an enemy than an ally it seems.
    or for that matter why not just go back in time in eradicate. the tholians I don't think nobody would miss them. And people would just move on with their lives without the foliage and space to be a lot more easier without these obsessive spider people.

    • @nathanielheilmann7351
      @nathanielheilmann7351 3 роки тому +4

      See that's the problem. The Na'Kul went back in time to eliminate the Tholians which is what caused the Tholians to attack Na'Kul in the 25th century. Its a Paradox.

    • @wolfbane7497
      @wolfbane7497 3 роки тому +1

      @@nathanielheilmann7351 then that's the fault of the Na'kul they should have went back further in time. Right out of the moment they came out of the primordial ooze and blew up their planet then.

    • @Janoha17
      @Janoha17 3 роки тому

      @@wolfbane7497 The further back you go, the more likely you are to erase your own existence.
      Also, it was the incursions from the 29th Century Na'kuhl that made the Federation hesitant about offering aid to the 25th Century Na'kuhl, a bit like how in Picard the Federation pulled support for the Romulan Relocation Effect.

    • @wolfbane7497
      @wolfbane7497 3 роки тому

      @@Janoha17 they're tholians I sincerely doubt the universe will be affected by anything without them.

    • @Janoha17
      @Janoha17 3 роки тому

      @@wolfbane7497 The Mirror Universe for one, also the risk of pulling an Annorax.

  • @superbatzbatazr7723
    @superbatzbatazr7723 3 роки тому +2

    I still don't like it Kira is a spiritual leader what the f it's so weird

    •  3 роки тому +1

      Lol I'd worship her!

    • @nathanielheilmann7351
      @nathanielheilmann7351 3 роки тому +4

      Its because she was close friends to Ben Sisko the Emissary.

    • @seskal8595
      @seskal8595 3 роки тому +2

      It's just politics in the end. She was an important person and probably wanted the position so yeah...
      But I agree that she's the wrong person to be Kai

    • @Corbomite_Meatballs
      @Corbomite_Meatballs 3 роки тому

      Don't worry...things will change for a number of characters once we get to ViL. No spoilers.
      Her being Kai/becoming more religious happened for a bit in the post-series DS9 novels too.

    • @amandamills4133
      @amandamills4133 3 роки тому

      it is a little weird, but at the same time considering how much she struggled with her own inner conflict and how much Kai Opaca influenced her, it also doesn't surprise me that a character like her would want to contribute something to her people by being able to inspire and motivate them the way that she was.

  • @paszmaty
    @paszmaty 3 роки тому

    Rule 34...

  • @radeadcool
    @radeadcool 3 роки тому

    Your ship should be alot better then it its. You should be able to destroy the end part no problem.

  • @grantavakjan9488
    @grantavakjan9488 3 роки тому

    Kira as a kai is really out of her character... I buy almost anything in ST online, but this is too much of promoting the known characters to important posts...

  • @talimodesbrig9015
    @talimodesbrig9015 3 роки тому +1

    Really nice 👌 😍💋 💝💖❤️