Great review as always, the MDX seems like a fantastic car. I just wish Acura made more hybrid powertrains! V6 Hybrid sounds like it would be a win for them.
Please no hybrid, main reason why I bought my MDX, hate hybrid. Whoever that likes hybrids is because never owns one for more than 2 years or only lease cars.
I think you’re leaving out all of the facts around cost of ownership of this vs the type S. The natural aspirated instead of the turbo, the sidewall tires vs spare, the air suspension vs the normal, the MPG being worse on Type S are all enormous factors that you kind of leave out in this review. When I buy Acura, I am buying with the insurance that the Honda parts are going to be reliable. I don’t want to mess with turbochargers air suspension. Give me a formula that is built to last, and that is the A-spec advance, not the type S.
Agreed! This is the first reviewer who has spoken so negatively regarding this trim. Everybody else has said it has great power, soaks up the bumps in the road and is well worth the price tag. I am in the process of purchasing this vehicle in Urban Grey Pearl with the black interior. Unfortunately, on this trim, you can only pick between the Orchid and the Ebony. Don’t want Orchid as it’s gets too dirty too quickly.
I really appreciate this review. I'm in the decision of getting one and wasn't convinced to spend an extra $13k (Canada) for a Type-S. You've perfectly encapsulated in this review the comparison between the two models in terms of driving experience. My only gripe of the Type-S is it doesn't have a spare tire and the wheel well where the tire is suppose to be in the other models is just an empty space on the Type S. Wish they gave us more storage or something to fill that empty hole where the spare tire use to be. Other than that, the Type-S seems to be the perfect model now. The air suspension may have won me over.
I'd be sold on the 2025 MDX Type S if we needed one today after watching & listening to your opinion between the Type S vs A-Spec. Right now, we'll stay with our 2014 MDX which is still working fine as long as we keep up with maintenance w/parts & repairs as needed. I am considering a more off-roadable SUV in the near future, however (different subject, I know).
$70k is a steal for what you get. It's competitors start around $65k and easily go north of it when you start adding options, especially when comparing against the German rivals
I have a aspec that i just bought 2 days ago. i Am absolutely in love with it. Best car i ever owned and I owned over 10 cars in my life. Don't think you'll have a bad car if you don't buy the type S. Not everybody want a sporty handling car. The power is very adequate !!! The steering feel : well it's the first time i got a car with a steering that is that light and precise. I just love it. Effortless. Also i know i am not on a track trying to go to the a lightyear speed. Just regular roads. I guess everything is a question of preferences. Try it for yourself before you spend the extra money on a type s.
Kirk, You are the first reviewer of MDXs to state what I have posted for few years : Why did Acura Stop the Sport Hybrid model. Despite the fact that I have a 22 MDX Advance (leased) and really LIKE it (I use Love for People), which I leased in August 2021, if Acura offered the Sport Hybrid (2018 - 2020) that would have been a total No-Brainer. The prior model used the same 3.0L engine in combo with electric motors to produce a total HP of 310 (?) and more Torque than the Non Hybrid AND 15-20% better MPGs. The MPGs on the car especially in City (actually Suburbia) is poor. EPA rated at 19??? I'm lucky to get 13.5-14 MPGs in Suburban driving. FWIW, I intend to use the option to extend my Lease for 6 Months at the same monthly of $610, the pay the 6 months of the sales taxes upfront, and then consider to buy my MDX at the buyout of $35,500 (The $38,500 Buyout in August will be furher reduced to $35,500 with the extension) - low mileage of 21K on the clock now. You are spot on about the Brakes on the Non Type S - mushy feeling. However, I have no problem with the steering which does have a perfect power steering system making it very easy to park. The Spectacular ELS sound system in my MDX is Plenty of Stereo sound for me- it is Top Shelf. I would like the higher HP & Torque of the Type S, but the Sport Hybrid was in the perfect Sweet Spot, especially for just a $1800 Increment for the prior models. No Brainer.
@@Chiroman527 keep your MDX Advance, the Type-S is fantastic too but the low-profile tires are prone to flats and it won’t be as reliable in the long-run, we have a 2023 MDX Advance and the brakes are sufficient for what the car is but ofc the Type-S will have better brakes
@@CarGeek360 : That's my Game Plan - to keep the 22 MDX Advance on the extended lease for 6 months. Then decide in February to Buy out at $35,400 with about 23K miles on it! I'm 73 and don't really need a 3 Row SUV, but I really enjoy the MDX for its comfort, handling & Ride, steering, the Looks inside and Out, One wish is that Acura updates the software on the InfoT. to match the new 25 RDX - still a TTIP, BUT now Google Based working much better in AA or CP mode.
@@Chiroman527 if you want my advice, I say buy out your leased MDX and don’t think twice about it, the non Type-S MDX is one of the best modern luxury cars for reliability
Can’t believe they increased the Aspec 10k from the 22’ model to 25’ model. People complained you didn’t give them 360 camera in a 58,000 vehicle and now it comes with more stuff and an extra 10k. It kind of puts it out past a bmw or Audi now and makes it less desirable as a good choice. Glad they fixed all the issues but I’m not sure if trade in my low mileage 22’ for a 25’ just to get touch screen and 360 camera. If they had fixed it by the next year, maybe. It’s honestly a great car and great features but wow is it just sky rocketed in price between the new MSRP and dealer markups or no haggle prices. Especially for the type S.
The MDX Type S will likely cost you a minimum of $26,000 above the MDX Advanced A-Spec in a 10 year/100,000 mile scenario. Things to consider: The initial cost difference - which will likely be a higher difference due to dealer mark-downs and mark-ups on the two models because of availability. The higher cost of maintenance/repair on the Type S, due to the turbo, exhaust, Brembo brakes, tires, adjustable air suspension, etc. The higher price of Premium fuel and lower gas mileage rating on the Type S Higher insurance rates on the Type S Additional sales taxes paid on any of the taxable items above. Your cost of ownership may vary, but look up some stats and do the math. You could buy a small car for the difference in price of ownership between these two models. The difference in the price off the lot will be the least of your expenses if you purchase the Type S. That being said, if you can afford it, lucky you…..👍🏼
I don't know about $26k, but the gas mileage rating on the Type S is abysmal!! I don't get how a BMW X5, with more power and performance, gets 21/25 mpg, and the 50i still manages to get 16/22. I get that the Type S is larger and heavier, but it still strikes me as terrible mileage. And I'm no BMW fanboy, I've never owned one and probably never will - I'm just providing some context.
@@jsfbay1 the 2024 X5 has an electric motor assist as a mild hybrid to get to the 375 HP. Prior non-hybrid version was 335 HP. Both versions MPG still better than the Type S.
@@SBM200612 curious, several articles & reviews I read/watched late last year stated the 2024 X5 s/xDrive40i models "now included a 48-volt mild hybrid system".
Just test drove one of these MDX A-SPEC 2025s yesterday, if this vehicle was maybe 3k cheaper and 2 mpg better I might have taken it home, hopefully the 25 RDX A-SPEC gets a similar upgrade package because the MDX had basically everything I'm waiting for
We had an RDX for ages but the 2019 RDX hasn’t updated and when we bought a car in 21’ the new MDX just came out with digital gauges and other options and we got it for $58k Aspec . The RDX just didn’t do it for us even though it was peppier. The advantage is also that the MDX minimum octane is 87 while the turbo RDX requires premium 93 and it’s quite a difference in price nowadays.
Another thing that drives me crazy with the Pilot is the adaptive cruise control. From a stop light, it takes *forever* to get to about 20 mph, then after that it gets into the gas too much. Then, if I go downhill just a little bit, the adaptive cruise rides the brake pedal, probably driving the people behind me crazy, and also wearing out the brakes. Compared to our 2015 Outback, the Outback has a much better adaptive cruise. Also - if someone in front of me turns right, the adaptive cruise will practically bring the car to a stop before going again, even if the car is well out of my way. To be fair, the Outback is almost as bad. It would be great if you used the adaptive cruise regularly and reported back as to how you like it.
@@puravida5683 If the black wheels get dirty, they look bad. If they are clean, they make your tires look dirty or dull (unless you’re constantly washing your tires and/or using tire-black on them).
Hey Kirk, will you talk about the updated 2025 Mazda 3 Hatchback please? 🙏🏼🚗 I was just on their website and saw they had a 2025 model available and some new tech added to it! Thank you so much and awesome review of the MDX! 👍🏼
There’s a huge jump in price between the Advanced A-Spec (platinum elite - A Spec) as its called here in Canada and the Type S. We also do not have the Plain Advance offered!
Awesome vid! I have a 2023 Pilot for comparison sake. How does the MDX base and Type S compare to the Mazda CX-90 in terms of driving feel (and sound system)? Looking for a little more fun to drive factor over our Pilot. Thanks!
After owning a 2022 MDX Advance model for three years, I was excited to get a new 2025. Then I found out they removed satellite radio completely from the MDX build for 2025. SInce I listen to SiriusXM all the time, it was something I do not want to eliminate. I ended up getting a 2024 Type S that was on the lot, so I can defer switching to another brand for the time being, but unfortunately it is going to be my last Acura. I was told by the dealer that the "young people" listen to music off their phones anyway so they won't miss SiriusXM. I am not young, so apparently I have left the target demographic for the MDX.
I purchased a 2024 Type S, which has the satellite radio. I too listen to the satellite radio and would not consider one w/o that feature (guess I'm out of the demographics as well). And, also to give the touch-screeners a cold shiver, we love the trackpad over the touchscreen in the 2025.
@@KirkKreifelsbeen in a couple new QX60s and the ride felt firm and body roll is ample, if comfort is the main goal, the Lexus TX is a great choice, if sportiness is a priority too, I think the Acura MDX and CX90 are compelling
I have a couple of questions. 1) Does the SH-AWD offer any handling, cornering advantages over the FWD? I live in South Texas and not worrying about snow. 2) Do the higher trims (A-Spec and above) offer more sound deadening/unsulation than the lower trim such as Tech?
I also would want to know if there is more insulation or if the ride quality is better on Aspec and above models! Or smaller wheels on Tech more comfortable?
Search Acura Super Handling AWD System vs Honda IVTM4 AWD. You will see the UA-cam comparison and what SH-AWD and IVTM4 AWD Torque Vectorng AWD do. So they are just not for snow.
I have a 2023 MDX A Spec and it does not feel underpowered in daily driving. My previous car was a 2020 BMW 540 with B58 engine, so I do feel the difference in acceleration, especially at higher speeds (80mph+), but there is absolutely no point in flooring the base engine from a full stop. It is like trying to sprint while wearing nice leather shoes. Just drive normally and the car feels fine. Decent mid-range with the 10-speed auto. The car will get you to highway speeds and stay there doing 80-90 mph with no problems. More that that and you are misusing a large heavy SUV. Get a sports car.
We have the 2023 MDX Advance and I def agree, I actually don’t recommend the Type-S bc it has low-profile tires that go flat easily on bad roads and I don’t think there is much benefit to the Type-S (just my opinion), the MDX Advance is a great choice but after living with it for after 2 years I def would like some hybridization, ot would help with low-end torque and efficiency, I think the standard MDX as is makes great power for what it is but hybridization would make things even better
@@paulhenry913 nope. He didn’t care for the normal MDX at all. He had a long term MDX Type S and stated that it was a better buy than the X7 M50i he owned.
For any car over $50k MSRP, it better have a banger base system of everything (interior materials, sound system, electronic features, ride, and performance). We have gotten too damn used to accepting crap when it's not the top of the line version of the vehicle. Manufacturer's are taking advantage of this. We need to stop this and reel these prices back in by voting with our wallets by not buying these cars. And I haven't even mentioned the ridiculous dealer markups.
A SH-AWD MDX basically starts at where the top-of-the-line CX90 ends. I know where I'd spend my money. Honestly, with how good it is, it competes with the Type-S while saving you $20k. And that extra $20k is surely not getting you better build quality or refinement. In fact, you're paying more for worse.
@@CU08 I agree with you, we have a 2023 MDX Advance (non Type-S) and it’s amazing, Mazda CX90 is the way to go if you want a sportier option (not that the MDX isn’t sporty)
@@CU08 I can see why you say this as the standard MDX will be more reliable and the Type-S has low-profile tires that go flat easily on bad roads, the MDX Type-S is impressive though
all crossovers look the same to me. boring state of affairs for vehicles when 90% of the cars on the road i see are some type of crossover. i just want an old lincoln towncar from the 80s or a truck or something idk
the current mdx is A LOT heavier than the last gen, even though no hybrid option available. that being said the type S v6+the sport hybrid system from the last gen could have easily given us a 400 if not 380+hp Type S AND better fuel economy.
It’s not right that they went up $8000 just for a A-spec advance model. They could’ve at least added the red calipers on the brakes. Would rather get a 2024 type-S instead of 2025 A-spec.
The only things they had to fix was the touch screen and giving 360 camera and they could have kept it the same price because they can sell the pilot with trailsport live 360 camera for cheaper.
So the A/C works better than the one in the Pilot? I ended up buying the Pilot, and you were right, the A/C is not designed right - I can get it to blow as cold as any other system, but it takes me cranking up the fan speed and about 10 minutes. It really is inadequate unless you don't mind the sound of the fan on full speed for 10 minutes and temp set to "Low."
Acura thinks they can bump their prices up and that will simply give the illusion of a premium brand, without actually putting quality into their brand. Cheap shiny black plastic everywhere and build quality taken from the manuals of Ford. I just looked up online and there's literally dozens of leftover MDX Type-S's on the lots around me. Yea, no kidding ... paying $70k+ for an Acura is moronic.
nice but the price me id go the regular A spec save $ 6500..... pays the tax lic etc but to many trims, if I pay another $,$$$ in can move to this next Trim level now im at this trim. level just little more $,$$$ I can go to the type S than add the dealer mark up on the type S now im at close to $90k looks like Encinitas cardif on cost hi-way 101
$70K? Vote with your wallets and say no. Buy a Pilot instead and save yourself a lot of money or buy a preowned MDX with low mileage. I would never think of an MDX as a $70K proposition
Honestly ,,,the Acura MDX build quality is good but reliability is NOT that good compared to Honda Pilot ...I would go with 2025 Honda Pilot Elite or Trailsport!
Yeah that’s a no. Both are well done. TX is a much better actual family suv. Much more space and much better MPG and the same performance. TX also offers a turbo hybrids and a V-6 plug in hybrid. The base aspec has more power than the base Tx but the base TX has much more torque
@MikeForsythe More useless banter from a corporate Lexus patsy. As a "luxury" segmented SUV, the TX is a complete dud & the flimsy attributes you've presented won't change this fact.
@@TheBjjones funny a honda corporate patsy saying that. The TX is selling close to the mdx which has dropped 30% this year. Note I’m saying both are good, I see the TX as better for famalies. Your stance is the Tx sucks and to make personal attacks. civic owners lol..
This MDX is an advance trim with the optional massage seats , still got the crap engine and poor fiel efficiency. So really, its not such a huge deal in terms of a trim level.
My mom has a MDX Advance, my dad is getting a X5 40i M Sport, I love both but don’t think this is a valid point, unlike any MDX, the X5 has performance, but ofc the MDX has more space (and imo a more comfortable ride although the X5 is smooth too), I actually don’t find the Type-S MDX too worth it as you’re still not getting performance, you’re sacrificing reliability, and the low-profile tires that car has will go flat easily on bad roads, X5 is the better choice if you don’t need the space of the Acura, but if you need the space of the Acura, I highly recommend the MDX
@@faheemabbas3965 exactly, my dad is getting a fully loaded X5 soon and isn’t one bit concerned about reliability, the B58 is a reliable motor and ours won’t have air suspension bc we want the M Sport Pkg
@@faheemabbas3965 exactly, my dad is getting a fully loaded X5 soon and isn’t a bit concerned about reliability, the B58 is a reliable motor and we want the M Sport Pkg meaning no air suspension
We test drove a Palisade Calligraphy a few weeks ago as it was on the top of my wife's list. We didn't like it. Seemed very cheap feeling and windshield seemed small. We currently have 2 Hyundais but won't be purchasing the Palisade.
Great review as always, the MDX seems like a fantastic car. I just wish Acura made more hybrid powertrains! V6 Hybrid sounds like it would be a win for them.
This would be sooooo smoooooooth with a v6 hybrid or a 2.0L turbo hybrid.
Agreed fully
@@KirkKreifelsV6 hybrid for me, I would NOT want a 4 cylinder MDX
Please no hybrid, main reason why I bought my MDX, hate hybrid. Whoever that likes hybrids is because never owns one for more than 2 years or only lease cars.
@@Jp0102 my grandma has had a RAV4 Hybrid since 2020, I’m more than satisfied with it, even after 4 years
Picked up a 2024 Type S Advance for my wife at a great deal. It’s the same smooth powertrain and the savings matter to us.
the Type S and A Spec are definitely not the same power train.
Great SUV with the seat massagers and air suspension!
You bought a type s and don’t even know what you have
I think you’re leaving out all of the facts around cost of ownership of this vs the type S. The natural aspirated instead of the turbo, the sidewall tires vs spare, the air suspension vs the normal, the MPG being worse on Type S are all enormous factors that you kind of leave out in this review. When I buy Acura, I am buying with the insurance that the Honda parts are going to be reliable. I don’t want to mess with turbochargers air suspension. Give me a formula that is built to last, and that is the A-spec advance, not the type S.
Agreed! This is the first reviewer who has spoken so negatively regarding this trim. Everybody else has said it has great power, soaks up the bumps in the road and is well worth the price tag. I am in the process of purchasing this vehicle in Urban Grey Pearl with the black interior. Unfortunately, on this trim, you can only pick between the Orchid and the Ebony. Don’t want Orchid as it’s gets too dirty too quickly.
I really appreciate this review. I'm in the decision of getting one and wasn't convinced to spend an extra $13k (Canada) for a Type-S. You've perfectly encapsulated in this review the comparison between the two models in terms of driving experience. My only gripe of the Type-S is it doesn't have a spare tire and the wheel well where the tire is suppose to be in the other models is just an empty space on the Type S. Wish they gave us more storage or something to fill that empty hole where the spare tire use to be. Other than that, the Type-S seems to be the perfect model now. The air suspension may have won me over.
do yourself a favor - drive the Type S before you make a final decision.
I'd be sold on the 2025 MDX Type S if we needed one today after watching & listening to your opinion between the Type S vs A-Spec. Right now, we'll stay with our 2014 MDX which is still working fine as long as we keep up with maintenance w/parts & repairs as needed. I am considering a more off-roadable SUV in the near future, however (different subject, I know).
Acura needs to get rid of the gloss black plastic in their interiors. Imo, it is their biggest problem.
And so many others including BMW and MB still use a ton of it!!
Totally agree on the lack of a hybrid setup. That takes Acura off my list. Too many good options with far better mpg.
I'm buying one tomorrow ! Acura...you rule !
$70k is a steal for what you get. It's competitors start around $65k and easily go north of it when you start adding options, especially when comparing against the German rivals
Great review! Curious if Acura will ever come out with an RDX Type S?
Thanks!
Thanks so much!
Outstanding comparison. Thank you.
Your feedback is gold.
I have a aspec that i just bought 2 days ago. i Am absolutely in love with it. Best car i ever owned and I owned over 10 cars in my life. Don't think you'll have a bad car if you don't buy the type S. Not everybody want a sporty handling car. The power is very adequate !!! The steering feel : well it's the first time i got a car with a steering that is that light and precise. I just love it. Effortless. Also i know i am not on a track trying to go to the a lightyear speed. Just regular roads. I guess everything is a question of preferences. Try it for yourself before you spend the extra money on a type s.
You can’t call it the best car you’ve ever owned if it’s only been 2 days.
@ yes I can
Picked up my 24 Aspec and i love it. Good get up and go power. Tons of tech and i was able to fit six people comfortably.
Kirk, You are the first reviewer of MDXs to state what I have posted for few years : Why did Acura Stop the Sport Hybrid model. Despite the fact that I have a 22 MDX Advance (leased) and really LIKE it (I use Love for People), which I leased in August 2021, if Acura offered the Sport Hybrid (2018 - 2020) that would have been a total No-Brainer. The prior model used the same 3.0L engine in combo with electric motors to produce a total HP of 310 (?) and more Torque than the Non Hybrid AND 15-20% better MPGs. The MPGs on the car especially in City (actually Suburbia) is poor. EPA rated at 19??? I'm lucky to get 13.5-14 MPGs in Suburban driving. FWIW, I intend to use the option to extend my Lease for 6 Months at the same monthly of $610, the pay the 6 months of the sales taxes upfront, and then consider to buy my MDX at the buyout of $35,500 (The $38,500 Buyout in August will be furher reduced to $35,500 with the extension) - low mileage of 21K on the clock now. You are spot on about the Brakes on the Non Type S - mushy feeling. However, I have no problem with the steering which does have a perfect power steering system making it very easy to park. The Spectacular ELS sound system in my MDX is Plenty of Stereo sound for me- it is Top Shelf. I would like the higher HP & Torque of the Type S, but the Sport Hybrid was in the perfect Sweet Spot, especially for just a $1800 Increment for the prior models. No Brainer.
@@Chiroman527 keep your MDX Advance, the Type-S is fantastic too but the low-profile tires are prone to flats and it won’t be as reliable in the long-run, we have a 2023 MDX Advance and the brakes are sufficient for what the car is but ofc the Type-S will have better brakes
@@Chiroman527 the MDX Sport Hybrid had the perfect powertrain, I wish Acura kept it for the new gen
@@CarGeek360 : That's my Game Plan - to keep the 22 MDX Advance on the extended lease for 6 months. Then decide in February to Buy out at $35,400 with about 23K miles on it! I'm 73 and don't really need a 3 Row SUV, but I really enjoy the MDX for its comfort, handling & Ride, steering, the Looks inside and Out, One wish is that Acura updates the software on the InfoT. to match the new 25 RDX - still a TTIP, BUT now Google Based working much better in AA or CP mode.
@@Chiroman527 if you want my advice, I say buy out your leased MDX and don’t think twice about it, the non Type-S MDX is one of the best modern luxury cars for reliability
Kirk, how do you compare this to equivalent Lexus RX?
Can’t believe they increased the Aspec 10k from the 22’ model to 25’ model. People complained you didn’t give them 360 camera in a 58,000 vehicle and now it comes with more stuff and an extra 10k. It kind of puts it out past a bmw or Audi now and makes it less desirable as a good choice.
Glad they fixed all the issues but I’m not sure if trade in my low mileage 22’ for a 25’ just to get touch screen and 360 camera. If they had fixed it by the next year, maybe.
It’s honestly a great car and great features but wow is it just sky rocketed in price between the new MSRP and dealer markups or no haggle prices. Especially for the type S.
The MDX Type S will likely cost you a minimum of $26,000 above the MDX Advanced A-Spec in a 10 year/100,000 mile scenario.
Things to consider:
The initial cost difference - which will likely be a higher difference due to dealer mark-downs and mark-ups on the two models because of availability.
The higher cost of maintenance/repair on the Type S, due to the turbo, exhaust, Brembo brakes, tires, adjustable air suspension, etc.
The higher price of Premium fuel and lower gas mileage rating on the Type S
Higher insurance rates on the Type S
Additional sales taxes paid on any of the taxable items above.
Your cost of ownership may vary, but look up some stats and do the math. You could buy a small car for the difference in price of ownership between these two models. The difference in the price off the lot will be the least of your expenses if you purchase the Type S.
That being said, if you can afford it, lucky you…..👍🏼
I don't know about $26k, but the gas mileage rating on the Type S is abysmal!! I don't get how a BMW X5, with more power and performance, gets 21/25 mpg, and the 50i still manages to get 16/22. I get that the Type S is larger and heavier, but it still strikes me as terrible mileage. And I'm no BMW fanboy, I've never owned one and probably never will - I'm just providing some context.
@@jsfbay1 the 2024 X5 has an electric motor assist as a mild hybrid to get to the 375 HP. Prior non-hybrid version was 335 HP. Both versions MPG still better than the Type S.
@@stevenfarley4738 Not true. 335 HP had mild hybrid since 2021 and so is the 375 version.
@@SBM200612 curious, several articles & reviews I read/watched late last year stated the 2024 X5 s/xDrive40i models "now included a 48-volt mild hybrid system".
@@stevenfarley4738 Just google 2021 BMW 540 specs and you'll see that 48 volt mild hybrid was added as a part of 2021 MY refresh.
Just test drove one of these MDX A-SPEC 2025s yesterday, if this vehicle was maybe 3k cheaper and 2 mpg better I might have taken it home, hopefully the 25 RDX A-SPEC gets a similar upgrade package because the MDX had basically everything I'm waiting for
the rdx isnt getting an update any time soon I'm afraid. Have you looked into other brands?
We had an RDX for ages but the 2019 RDX hasn’t updated and when we bought a car in 21’ the new MDX just came out with digital gauges and other options and we got it for $58k Aspec . The RDX just didn’t do it for us even though it was peppier.
The advantage is also that the MDX minimum octane is 87 while the turbo RDX requires premium 93 and it’s quite a difference in price nowadays.
Does the air ride suspension suffer in other conditions where this suspension might shine or at least do better matching it?
Another thing that drives me crazy with the Pilot is the adaptive cruise control. From a stop light, it takes *forever* to get to about 20 mph, then after that it gets into the gas too much. Then, if I go downhill just a little bit, the adaptive cruise rides the brake pedal, probably driving the people behind me crazy, and also wearing out the brakes. Compared to our 2015 Outback, the Outback has a much better adaptive cruise. Also - if someone in front of me turns right, the adaptive cruise will practically bring the car to a stop before going again, even if the car is well out of my way. To be fair, the Outback is almost as bad. It would be great if you used the adaptive cruise regularly and reported back as to how you like it.
When did black wheels, that always look dirty, become so popular with car manufacturers.
because everyone wants everything blacked out. They're just listening to their customers.
I hate them
@@puravida5683 If the black wheels get dirty, they look bad. If they are clean, they make your tires look dirty or dull (unless you’re constantly washing your tires and/or using tire-black on them).
Hey Kirk, will you talk about the updated 2025 Mazda 3 Hatchback please? 🙏🏼🚗
I was just on their website and saw they had a 2025 model available and some new tech added to it!
Thank you so much and awesome review of the MDX! 👍🏼
The refreshed MDX Aspec looks great. I only wish they give the refreshed Integra Aspec the same treatment. A good style upgrade.
There’s a huge jump in price between the Advanced A-Spec (platinum elite - A Spec) as its called here in Canada and the Type S. We also do not have the Plain Advance offered!
Awesome vid! I have a 2023 Pilot for comparison sake. How does the MDX base and Type S compare to the Mazda CX-90 in terms of driving feel (and sound system)? Looking for a little more fun to drive factor over our Pilot. Thanks!
CX-90 has the best steering and handling feel with a RWD layout. I think I'd take the cx90 over any MDX. However Type S is still very impressive
After owning a 2022 MDX Advance model for three years, I was excited to get a new 2025. Then I found out they removed satellite radio completely from the MDX build for 2025. SInce I listen to SiriusXM all the time, it was something I do not want to eliminate. I ended up getting a 2024 Type S that was on the lot, so I can defer switching to another brand for the time being, but unfortunately it is going to be my last Acura. I was told by the dealer that the "young people" listen to music off their phones anyway so they won't miss SiriusXM. I am not young, so apparently I have left the target demographic for the MDX.
I purchased a 2024 Type S, which has the satellite radio. I too listen to the satellite radio and would not consider one w/o that feature (guess I'm out of the demographics as well).
And, also to give the touch-screeners a cold shiver, we love the trackpad over the touchscreen in the 2025.
Kirk have you driven the 2017-2020 MDX sport hybrid? What do you think about it?
Great insights, Kirk. Ty! Will you consider a comparison between the mdx and qx 60 video?
QX60 has a better ride and a smoother engine/transmission. MDX handles better and might be quieter now too.
@@KirkKreifelsbeen in a couple new QX60s and the ride felt firm and body roll is ample, if comfort is the main goal, the Lexus TX is a great choice, if sportiness is a priority too, I think the Acura MDX and CX90 are compelling
I have a couple of questions.
1) Does the SH-AWD offer any handling, cornering advantages over the FWD? I live in South Texas and not worrying about snow.
2) Do the higher trims (A-Spec and above) offer more sound deadening/unsulation than the lower trim such as Tech?
Yes. Shawd sends good torque to the rear and outside wheels enhancing grip and rotation.
I also would want to know if there is more insulation or if the ride quality is better on Aspec and above models! Or smaller wheels on Tech more comfortable?
Aspec is suppose to be cosmetic only but has a more comfortable ride than the tech package
@@YTholic2 I think only the Type-S would offer any ride quality advantages over the rest as stated in Kirk's driving impression segment.
Search Acura Super Handling AWD System vs Honda IVTM4 AWD. You will see the UA-cam comparison and what SH-AWD and IVTM4 AWD Torque Vectorng AWD do. So they are just not for snow.
70k for this and it’s not even 300hp☹️☹️☹️☹️
I have a 2023 MDX A Spec and it does not feel underpowered in daily driving. My previous car was a 2020 BMW 540 with B58 engine, so I do feel the difference in acceleration, especially at higher speeds (80mph+), but there is absolutely no point in flooring the base engine from a full stop. It is like trying to sprint while wearing nice leather shoes. Just drive normally and the car feels fine. Decent mid-range with the 10-speed auto. The car will get you to highway speeds and stay there doing 80-90 mph with no problems. More that that and you are misusing a large heavy SUV. Get a sports car.
Can you do a review of the Lexus rx 500h sport.
A mild hybrid system is muchly needed here
We have the 2023 MDX Advance and I def agree, I actually don’t recommend the Type-S bc it has low-profile tires that go flat easily on bad roads and I don’t think there is much benefit to the Type-S (just my opinion), the MDX Advance is a great choice but after living with it for after 2 years I def would like some hybridization, ot would help with low-end torque and efficiency, I think the standard MDX as is makes great power for what it is but hybridization would make things even better
The A-Spec is only $63K. The Type S is $77K. Is it worth $14K for the Type S extra horsepower and more maintenance problems long term???
3:00 I think it's the updated 3.5 L DOHC, not SOHC
nope. It's 100% the SOHC 290hp 267lbft
@@KirkKreifels ohh I thought you would use Pilot's updated engine...
Kirk, how tall are you? Need to talk about your height and head room and leg room :)
Very similar to what Savageese said about the MDX. He couldn’t recommend the normal MDX, but the Type S impressed him.
That's not what I remember. I thought the regular MDX was preferred given the price decrease
@@paulhenry913 nope. He didn’t care for the normal MDX at all. He had a long term MDX Type S and stated that it was a better buy than the X7 M50i he owned.
@@jr1885 he thought the tranny sucked iirc
70K for the non-turbo V6 is wild
buy a Kia.
For any car over $50k MSRP, it better have a banger base system of everything (interior materials, sound system, electronic features, ride, and performance). We have gotten too damn used to accepting crap when it's not the top of the line version of the vehicle. Manufacturer's are taking advantage of this. We need to stop this and reel these prices back in by voting with our wallets by not buying these cars.
And I haven't even mentioned the ridiculous dealer markups.
Why didn't Acura use this mid-cycle refresh to update the V6 to the DOHC version they put in the new Pilot?
Hard to say why. It probably costs more to make that DOHC. Emissions must not be forcing them to use the newer engine.
A SH-AWD MDX basically starts at where the top-of-the-line CX90 ends. I know where I'd spend my money. Honestly, with how good it is, it competes with the Type-S while saving you $20k. And that extra $20k is surely not getting you better build quality or refinement. In fact, you're paying more for worse.
CX90 has less usability though
@@CU08 I agree with you, we have a 2023 MDX Advance (non Type-S) and it’s amazing, Mazda CX90 is the way to go if you want a sportier option (not that the MDX isn’t sporty)
@@CU08 I can see why you say this as the standard MDX will be more reliable and the Type-S has low-profile tires that go flat easily on bad roads, the MDX Type-S is impressive though
all crossovers look the same to me. boring state of affairs for vehicles when 90% of the cars on the road i see are some type of crossover. i just want an old lincoln towncar from the 80s or a truck or something idk
the current mdx is A LOT heavier than the last gen, even though no hybrid option available. that being said the type S v6+the sport hybrid system from the last gen could have easily given us a 400 if not 380+hp Type S AND better fuel economy.
It’s not right that they went up $8000 just for a A-spec advance model. They could’ve at least added the red calipers on the brakes. Would rather get a 2024 type-S instead of 2025 A-spec.
The only things they had to fix was the touch screen and giving 360 camera and they could have kept it the same price because they can sell the pilot with trailsport live 360 camera for cheaper.
So the A/C works better than the one in the Pilot? I ended up buying the Pilot, and you were right, the A/C is not designed right - I can get it to blow as cold as any other system, but it takes me cranking up the fan speed and about 10 minutes. It really is inadequate unless you don't mind the sound of the fan on full speed for 10 minutes and temp set to "Low."
they're using weaker refigerant
how do you "crank" the fan. Is there a handle on it?
@@stevenfarley4738 it means turning up the fan speed quite a bit.
Now Audis bang & olufsen sound system didn't know they changed from the usual ELS 3D studio
They’re out of their minds with that msrp! These top end trims, along with the ZDXs are just gonna rot on the lots sadly.
The market will decide!
Acura thinks they can bump their prices up and that will simply give the illusion of a premium brand, without actually putting quality into their brand. Cheap shiny black plastic everywhere and build quality taken from the manuals of Ford.
I just looked up online and there's literally dozens of leftover MDX Type-S's on the lots around me. Yea, no kidding ... paying $70k+ for an Acura is moronic.
This newer ZDX is bust. My dealer in Nashville says he leads the sales amongst salesmen with a whopping… 1 vehicle sold over the months.
The Lexus TX has an optional hybrid V6 with an automatic transmission
very top trim though isnt it
nice but the price me id go the regular A spec save $ 6500..... pays the tax lic etc but to many trims, if I pay another $,$$$ in can move to this next Trim level now im at this trim. level just little more $,$$$ I can go to the type S than add the dealer mark up on the type S now im at close to $90k looks like Encinitas cardif on cost hi-way 101
If only the MDX had the camera rear view mirror
$70K? Vote with your wallets and say no. Buy a Pilot instead and save yourself a lot of money or buy a preowned MDX with low mileage. I would never think of an MDX as a $70K proposition
Cars don't get cheaper and the mdx is supposed to be acura top model.
Well the MDX has more luxury and more refinement than the Pilot
Nowadays, $70k for a flagship car of a premium brand is actually considered reasonable.
@@MyMovie5858 "reasonable" lol Sure. Enjoy your new MDX.
@@MyMovie5858 agreed
to sit on a hot day on leather seats is 👍
Not when you have ventilated seats and remote start
@@BJ-sb9rk yes but this ``Luxury Car´´ have it not in the second and third row 😒
@@alengreen589 what models at this price point have ventilated second and third row seats?
@@stevenfarley4738 a real Luxury car would have it.
@@alengreen589 still didn't answer my question.
You do know type s is a higher trim than a spec right? You keep bashing the a spec like it’s supposed to be a higher trim than type s
I can't tell the difference between the Banging Bang & Olufsen (Type S) and the Bang & Olufsen (A-Spec) sound systems.
🙂
The crappy mpg is why I didn’t even consider this or the RDX
I hate those blocks on the front. Why did they do that? They look like speakers! Ugh!!!
The blue on red is not available in Canada. Canada really suck 😒
They must be selling or they wouldn’t be asking $70k + for it, only way they will discount them is if they sit
Why Would I buy the Type S Advance over the BMW X5?
Price.
I can think of 8,000 reasons.
Resale
does mdx fwd exist? 😂
This suv should have 400 plus hp standard.
why?
Honestly ,,,the Acura MDX build quality is good but reliability is NOT that good compared to Honda Pilot ...I would go with 2025 Honda Pilot Elite or Trailsport!
The newly refreshed MDX is much better SUV overall than the lackluster TX.
MDX is a better luxury vehicle and more seats.. But the TX has excellent hybrids and more space.
I like both the MDX and TX, Mazda CX90 is great too, new QX60 is garbage tho, been in it and it drives horribly
Yeah that’s a no. Both are well done. TX is a much better actual family suv. Much more space and much better MPG and the same performance. TX also offers a turbo hybrids and a V-6 plug in hybrid. The base aspec has more power than the base Tx but the base TX has much more torque
@MikeForsythe
More useless banter from a corporate Lexus patsy. As a "luxury" segmented SUV, the TX is a complete dud & the flimsy attributes you've presented won't change this fact.
@@TheBjjones funny a honda corporate patsy saying that. The TX is selling close to the mdx which has dropped 30% this year.
Note I’m saying both are good, I see the TX as better for famalies. Your stance is the Tx sucks and to make personal attacks.
civic owners lol..
Great review but not a vehicle I would consider.
Base ASpec is best choice. $18k more for Type S isn't worth it
This MDX is an advance trim with the optional massage seats , still got the crap engine and poor fiel efficiency.
So really, its not such a huge deal in terms of a trim level.
13:53
Nice
Just buy a Mazda and save some money. But if you have the money, get the s spec
Just buy an X5.
You spelled lease wrong.
My mom has a MDX Advance, my dad is getting a X5 40i M Sport, I love both but don’t think this is a valid point, unlike any MDX, the X5 has performance, but ofc the MDX has more space (and imo a more comfortable ride although the X5 is smooth too), I actually don’t find the Type-S MDX too worth it as you’re still not getting performance, you’re sacrificing reliability, and the low-profile tires that car has will go flat easily on bad roads, X5 is the better choice if you don’t need the space of the Acura, but if you need the space of the Acura, I highly recommend the MDX
Lease boy.
We want to keep our cars long term, sir.
@@faheemabbas3965 exactly, my dad is getting a fully loaded X5 soon and isn’t one bit concerned about reliability, the B58 is a reliable motor and ours won’t have air suspension bc we want the M Sport Pkg
@@faheemabbas3965 exactly, my dad is getting a fully loaded X5 soon and isn’t a bit concerned about reliability, the B58 is a reliable motor and we want the M Sport Pkg meaning no air suspension
Forget the hybrid. Screw that garbage.
How many mother in laws can this baby drive over?
🧦Wool socks to sleep=20% mood increase the next day🟣🟧🟩
2025 MDX is not worth the upgrade with fascia change, touchscreen, and audio upgrade! Same engine, lack of third row vents.
there are vents under the second row that pass conditioned air to the third row.
300 miles on a tank is pathetic……
That’s yuckie EV territory.
MORNING
Overpriced just get a bmw x5. Its far cheaper and better.
Bare to the bones BMW yes, The X% that i prefer is close to 80K.
@@simonkourounis199 Not everyone needs an M version.
@@foxtayle446i placed my order for an X5...nicely equipped...75k
These base engines develop a whining sound after a few miles so listen for it. Acura sucks!
But...
Why? Why bother with a 'Type S'... when you can just buy a Model S, or a Model X... and say adios to all the dealership crap.
because Model X isnt as usable, and EVs arent viable yet for everyone
Anything that cost that kind of money has to have more features than the Hyundai Palisades Caligraphy and just as good of a warranty.
MDX has better driving dynamics, Pallisade has more space from what I hear though
We test drove a Palisade Calligraphy a few weeks ago as it was on the top of my wife's list. We didn't like it. Seemed very cheap feeling and windshield seemed small. We currently have 2 Hyundais but won't be purchasing the Palisade.
Overpriced Honda