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The Monster's Den: Alien Rip-Off Films
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- Опубліковано 16 сер 2024
- Join Pete Pardo, Chris Alo, and Jamie Laszlo as they discuss some of the great, and not so great, Alien rip-off films.
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Jamie and Chris are a fantastic combination!
Hopefully they will be back on soon!
Great point about the slime. Even "The Green Slime" doesn't have slime!
(BTW Green Slime is AWESOME - Japanese made. Italian styled. Italian Acted - bunches of fun!)
I don't know if this falls in "Monster's den" territory, but there are SO MANY "Road Warrior" Rip-offs that are a hoot! You could do HOURS on that topic!
This was awesome. I know that a show is going to be gold when you have Pete, Chris, and Jamie involved. Galaxy of Terror is one that I remember. I was on a tour of Europe in the summer of 1982 - and saw the posters for the film in London and Paris. I wanted to see it then but didn't till later on VHS. It was definitely a rip-off of Alien.
Just wondering which band were you playing in; as I was actually still trying to live on and off the road myself as a kid (20’s) now I’m Pete’s age! 👏 Sincerely Yours, DJP ex PostMortem & Kilslug from Boston Massachusetts 🇺🇸
Just wondering which band you were playing with around the time of Galaxy Of Terror rippling off Alien 👽 @‘79 .? Sincerely yours, DJP ex PostMortem and Kilslug Boston Massachusetts USA Amerikkka of course 🇨🇳🏳️
An excellent theme for a Monster's Den episode, thank you Jamie, and thanks to Pete and Chris, as usual, for joining in and making it very enjoyable. Great to see such knowledge and enthusiasm from you lads. makes this show an unmissable event for me.
Another great video.
I’m surprised you guys didn’t mention Xtro which was a bit of an Alien rip off, as well as Deep Star Six or the better of the underwater Alien knock off Leviathan.
When Chris mentioned the alien bursting through the face I automatically thought of Parasite that starred Demi Moore.
I’m also surprised Species wasn’t mentioned which the female alien was designed by Giger.
Always a great episode when the KING is on. Best channel on UA-cam. Thanks Pete.
Great show...did you guys mention Alien sort of ripped off Mario Bava''s Planet Of The Vampires? It would be cool if you guys did a non Horror exploitation show too,,,,,
@Garrett McGinnis That one too...lol
Once again you all bring back the duds and dandys of the genre - great show.
9:33 - Funny thing is there actually was a thrash metal band called Inseminoid from France, that formed in '89. They only released three demos between 1989-'91.
Yes 👏 I remember that one of those gigs we had opened for both Exodus’s Fabulous Disaster + Suicidal Tendencies at The Channel and those guys had been added to the list at the last minute and we were drinking 🐝 with the band after the show! A yr. later? We’re up in Canada 🇨🇦 on this tour with Voi Vod and Sacrifice; who do we run into? Yeah, you guessed it.. Inseminoid 🇫🇷 lol 😝 Sincerely Yours, DJP ex PostMortem and Kilslug 🇺🇸 Boston Massachusetts 02134 Amerikkka .. naturally, right.?
Sigourney Weaver is quite tall and slim - she's about 6 foot or 6'1", so I guess more of what they call an "athletic build" for a woman. A picture recently surfaced of her at a Beatles concert when she was a teenager, and honestly she hadn't changed much. She has a great, sarcastic, dark sense of humour as well, and is quite funny, so certain things make up for a woman not having your traditional curvy type body. Good show guys!
Weaver is totally hot !
@@robbjj1 I agree!
Yes 👏 you go girl!! Sincerely yours truly xoxo DJP ex PostMortem and Kilslug Boston Massachusetts USA 🇨🇳 Amerikkka naturally..
I love "Star Crystal". I was 14 and watched it with my Mom. We laughed so hard 😂😂
I loved Galaxy of Terror by Roger Corman- James Cameron started out his career at New World films (Corman) in the Model shop and Art Director. He also worked on Battle Beyond the Stars and Escape from New York (visual effects).
I also just remembered "MoonTrap" with Walter Koenig even though it is on the moon and there are robots, you get to see Bruce Campbell taken over and converted into a Hybrid creature. The Horror and gore is on par with your sensibilities. I work in VFX and have an extensive knowledge of classic Sci-Fi and horror :)
Also the slime you were discussing is Methylcell (KY jelly) which after Alien became the most used cheap FX. Ghostbusters put green food coloring for the ectoplasm.
I read this book now turned into a movie on You- tube and Yes. Easy Riders & Raging Bulls which Roger Corman wrote also had started the career paths of DeNiro; Scorsese; Joe Dante and F.F. Coppola back in the early 60’s. Another one he has is How I made a million; without spending a dime. The former is definitely the better ☝️! Sincerely yours, DJP ex PostMortem and Kilslug Boston Massachusetts USA 🇨🇳 Amerikkka of course!
Another highly enjoyable episode of The Monster's Den. The discussion between Chris and Jamie about what they liked or disliked and why was entertaining to watch. Agree with the hate to be bored approach Chris uses with his movie rules. Recently watched Tammy and The T Rex based on an earlier discussion by Chris. Shakespeare it is not. But Shakespeare doensn't make me laugh that hard either. So definitely going to track down some of the titles discussed for watching. Thanks, guys, for always putting on a fun show and committing your time to these episodes.
"Life Force" is based on Colin Wilson's book "The Space Vampires". The story is heavily influenced by H.P. Lovecraft which Quatermass equaly was.
Totally love the Abyss. I spent 100.00 for it on laserdisc back in the day.
I was going to mention that. James Cameron was PRO laser disc way back when.
Inseminoid OST album cover reminds Anthrax's Spreading the Disease
Yes or Lubricated Goat 🐐 The Great Olde Ones! Definitely check it out. They’re from Scotland 🏴 from the early 80’s
Isn't there a director's cut of Mimic out now? Edit. I just ordered a used blu ray of the Director's cut
Here's an honorable mention - The Intruder Within (1981) - set on some kind of offshore drilling rig, they bring up some eggs from the bottom of the sea, and something hatches out and the usual shenanigans ensue. I've only seen it once, in the late 80s. It might be a tv movie. Not sure to be honest as this was a long time ago, and I watched it on VHS but can't say if it was a genuine release or some kind of bootleg. I don't remember it being particularly good, but it was still WAY better than Inseminoid :)
I saw that movie as a kid and I think it was only a t.v. movie. I've been trying to figure out the name of that movie literally my whole life. Thank you bunches..!
@@Buckeye_4_Life_ Glad to help. I wasn't 100% sure if I had it right but checking online it lo0oks like I did - I've only ever seen it once on TV and that was a very long time ago now. I can't even find it to download online, let alone a legit release though :(
@@countzero1136 The full movie is on UA-cam. I just watched it Sunday.
@@Buckeye_4_Life_ Cool thanks - I'll check it out :)
Gents, As a counter to sci- fi horror, I would love to see an episode on period piece/ historical horror.
They’ve done one ☝️ all about the early flicks of the 1930’s- 40’s recently so go ahead. Check it out! Sincerely Yours, DJP ex PostMortem & Kilslug Boston Massachusetts 🇺🇸 Amerikkka of course, right.?
Once again. Chris your the man! Forbidden Would is awesome.
thanks buddy!
Might be a good idea to buy a DVD player while you can. I been looking for CD players and have been finding cheaply made players and players that are two thousand dollars or more. My old turntable finally gave out and have been looking for a replacement, and all I can find are Chinese manufactured turntables that are cheaply made and some that are two thousand dollars or more. Ebay is asking crazy prices for thirty year old turntables.
There was an episode of The Outer Limits that had a creature that either ate slime or slimed victims.
Another good one is the 3D movie "Parasite" from 1982 with Demi Moore. It's more a combo ripoff of "Alien" and "Mad Max," but it does have a bursting scene and some goofy creature effects by Stan Winston. And by "good" I mean "absolutely terrible."
Yes 👍 wasn’t sure if it’s that same one, where it bursts outta her face or.. lol.? Sincerely yours truly xoxo DJP ex PostMortem and Kilslug Boston Massachusetts 02134 🇺🇸 Amerikkka of course.. 🇨🇳
The blob was basically a slime alien. Then there's The Slime People but they were not overly slimey, despite the name.
You guys didn't think Sigourney looked good in Galaxy Quest? I did.
Yesssssss.........
Oh, yes!
Sorry if I missed this but I just came home from watching Spider-Man: No Way Home, loved it!!!!!
It is a good movie.
Heart warming in places, sad in others.
They managed to pull it off.
The best Monsters Den crew IMHO.
Alien also rips off Mario Bava's Planet of the Vampires. And the makers of Insemonoid did special effects on the original Alien.
I saw Planet of the Vampires back when I was a very young kid in the mid to late 70's on a VHF or UHF channel and it scared me.
I went back recently and watched it and while it was atmospheric it certainly wasn't as good as my memory thought it was. 😕
Checkout "Split Second" with Rutger Hauer. I don't think it's on DVD...I own it on VHS. A total Alien ripoff...and I guess you can call it a "Predator" ripoff as well. Takes place in England. I enjoyed it. Rutgers Hauer is so over the top in this.
Yep, pretty good! I just got it on Blu Ray.
Fantastic show as always! There were 2 or 3 in there that I don't own but will now for sure.
What’s funny is that some of these ripoffs are better than the canonical later Alien sequels.
You are totally right!!
@@chrisalo2989 better than at least Alien 3 and the one after and the very last one which I thought was horrible.
@@russellgentile4719 Agreed!!!
I would add Xtro (1982) and Scared to Death (1981) to the Alien ripoff list.
The films of Don Dohler deserve their own episode.
Galaxy of Terror and Forbidden World are tops!
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A L I E N is often imitated, never equaled.
I don't think they mentioned that these movies always have a scene with flashlight gadgets shooting light beams in some kind of dark foggy place.
Can't wait to see where Creature ends up or if it does
I love Creature or Titan Find as I saw it first (on VHS widescreen even), that must've been the European version. Got to have that new VS release now. Anyway, a great (greatest?) '80s Alien rip-off. The Bueller dad was Creature actor Lyman Ward, in real life married to Bueller co-star Cindy Pickett.
Creature is a lot of fun. For a cheapie the sets and photography are great. Another great transfer from Vinegar Syndrome.
On the opposite side of things, has anyone on here seen Mario Bava's influential Planet of the Vampires? Seriously badass.
Yep, I think Planet of the Vampires definitely influenced ALIEN for sure.
Word 👊
This was great as always. Agree 100% with Chris you can easily enjoy a bad movie. I was surprised nobody mentioned Sunshine which I really like from the early 2000’s I think.
Check out a little movie from the early 70’s called Blue Sunshine starring none other than Mark Harmon from the series Lost In Space from 1966-68! Sincerely yours, DJP ex PostMortem and Kilslug Boston Massachusetts 🇺🇸 Amerikkka of course, right? 🇨🇳
Enjoyed it guys. Good stuff
i saw most o' these films in the theatres when they were released. this was wonderful nostalgia. thank you ! i loved Alien so much when it came out (i was 14) that i had bubble gum trading cards, a small hand-crank viewer thingy (mattel ?) with a cassette (8-tracks were still popular back then) o' scenes from the movie. i had all the view master 'cards' from the film, i even had a t-shirt with the chest-burster molded in 3D which i had to fill the alien with paper towels to help keep it from sagging when i wore it (today i have just a 2D version o' the same shirt...)...the reduction in physical products has already begun as hbo, netflix and disney refuse to release popular series on dvd (why i resort to a friendly burner company in australia...)
Any chance I could get the name of that burner co? Thanks 🙏🏻 in advance? Sincerely yours, DJP ex PostMortem and Kilslug Boston Massachusetts Amerikkka 🇨🇳 natch, right?
@@deanpesaturo6401 ...swift thrifts...
@@sideshowbobrobert , now if we could only get back to this time and place. Yes 👏 Sincerely yours, DJP ex PostMortem and Kilslug Boston Massachusetts 🇺🇸 Amerikkka of course, right?
Ironically, Alien (1979) ripped off David Cronenberg's "Shivers" (1975), especially the alien/parasite popping out of the chest scene. As modest and humble as Cronenberg is, even he has stated how Alien ripped off his movie that came out 4 years before. Alien also ripped off David Cronenberg's "Rabbid" (1976) too.
A idea to the Monster Den Crew: Why not make a special over Monster/Horror Movies comming out from 2020 till now and rewiev of movies comming out..let say every month..?
Jamie goes the extra mile for his lists 😂💯
Love this discussion!
FYI "Shocking Dark" is free on UA-cam.
Having to sit through it is the price you have to pay.
@@Jamie.Laszlo Yep- Time IS money!! >80)
I’ve been a collector of cd’s and albums for many years. Watching Monsters Den makes me want to start collecting Horror movies, but I just don’t want to start going that rabbit hole.
They purchase multiple copies of some clunkers
I completely disagree...I would take Lambert over Ripley any day!!
All good! I liked her look better in Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
I've always found siguorney weaver attractive in an unconventional way and she really showed what a great actor she is in the little known polanski film DEATH AND THE MAIDEN.
Amazing movie.
I think it’s because of the white ( not pink Pete lol) end of the movie whereabouts she’s walking around in her bra and panties looking 👀 out for that alien 👽 Right? Sincerely Yours, DJP ex PostMortem and Kilslug Boston Massachusetts 🇺🇸 Amerikkkan of course. Yes 👏
Lifeforce was only great because of the hot nude chic in it. Huba huba.
The french actress Mathilda May a true beauty.
Life, with Rebecca Ferguson and a Russian film, Sputnik.
A lot of big Sci-Fi and Horror movies have cheap rip offs
a great cast of actors in them but that's about it.
Finally!
Guys who don't like Aliens.
Men of culture, I see.
Alien (1979) actually ripped off It! The Terror From Beyond Space (1958), but did it better with a bigger budget.
Love Event Horizon. Very creepy
I just bought my first Blu-ray. Another Wolfcop. Don't have a player yet.
Or just watch it all right here on UA-cam
Science fiction and heavy metal go hand in hand.
Arrow release Contamination in uk, dont know if they did the same in the states.
They did! I will be ordering that.
I recall an el cheapo Alien ripoff. An American spaceship in distress crashes into the Florida Everglades.....and the rescue crew of Horny scientists are bumped off by this alien head .......because that was all the effects team could afford....
Chris must not have seen the extended cut of The Abyss. The aliens aren't always friendly.
Have you never seen The Ice Storm where Sigourney Weaver played the hot mom? Apart from that I always thought she was pretty hot in Working Girl as well. After all she was Harrison Ford‘s lover in that one, at least until Melanie Griffith came along.
I thought she was hot in Galaxy Quest and Ghost Busters.
@@russellgentile4719 Haven’t Galaxy Quest for ages, but now that you mention it, yes she was. And blonde.
She certainly can put on a ball-breaker vibe if she wants and that could turn some guys off I suppose.
Ice Storm is a cold cold movie. Emotionally, methodologically. the least satisfying scene of infidelity ever put to film.
@@brianmiller1077 you've peaked my interest. Never saw this movie.
@@russellgentile4719 It's directed by Ang Lee, great actors
WEBN fm used to play an Abyss spoof radio ad. APiss lol
Surprised you guys never mentioned The Intruder Within.
We mentioned it briefly at the end. I haven't seen it in eons and didn't get the chance to re-watch it this week.
@@chrisalo2989 Oh cool. I haven't seen any of the ones you guys mentioned except for Intruder Within, which wasn't great but not half bad either.
Split Second anyone?
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That's wrong. Completely wrong. There wouldn't be a disc to begin with if this were true. Looking at the 4K scan on a Blu-ray disc, you aren't handling a VHS tape, are you? No.
A 4K scan is just a speed at which the reels go through the machine to scan the images. The higher the number, the slower the process, the more detail of the picture can be shown on any kind of disc. These discs have a different amount of data in which they can store the movie.
When they do this scan, they downscale it into a 1080p disc, but it still gives so much more detail than a 2K scan, which is fed through the machine at a faster rate which detail is quite good, but not as good as that 4K, slower, scan. Most 1080p discs have a regular scan of the footage from the film reel. If there's a restoration, a remaster, they can rescan the film. If it's a 2K scan, it's slightly higher in resolution than the regular 1080p. They downscale that to 1080p, however, the detail is better than the original scan. So, too, is a 4K scan.
I don't think Chris understands the quality differences here. A 2160 pixel resolution is better than a 1080 pixel resolution no matter which disc you place it on. Detail is pushed up considerably. 4K UHD basically the new disc, which has a different amount of data. They can copy the entire 2160p, the P being pixels, without having to downscale it, which makes for a much better picture than a 2K scan, basically 1080 pixels. The 4K UHD is the difference when it comes to the data space, but no the only difference. The space is much bigger than the regular Blu-ray disc, but if it's simply placed on the Blu-ray without the UHD, it still looks much better than it would have if they hadn't. So, it is most definitely not like taking a CD and placing it on a cassette.
Just a show dude; chill. Did’ja get that shot or..? Sincerely yours truly xoxo DJP ex PostMortem and Kilslug Boston Massachusetts USA Amerikkka 🇨🇳
@@deanpesaturo6401
"Just a show dude; chill. Did’ja get that shot or..? Sincerely yours truly xoxo DJP ex PostMortem and Kilslug Boston Massachusetts USA Amerikkka 🇨🇳"
What do you mean chill? I wasn't heated. I was explaining the process and what it actually means. You're projecting your own thoughts and imagination into what I typed if you think I am angry. My intention was to let them know they are wrong.
@@HugeTheWarningFan Sorry about that last one; with a little brother getting into my phone and all. I’ve been writing back to a lot more people who’ve mistakenly thought It’d been me whom wrote back again. I assure you that it was not.Kool handle tho’ Lance Lust! Thanks again now hun! DJP Boston, Massachusetts 🇺🇸 Amerikkka of course! 🇨🇳🏳️
@@deanpesaturo6401
"@Lance Lust Sorry about that last one; with a little brother getting into my phone and all. I’ve been writing back to a lot more people who’ve mistakenly thought It’d been me whom wrote back again. I assure you that it was not.Kool handle tho’ Lance Lust! Thanks again now hun! DJP Boston, Massachusetts 🇺🇸 Amerikkka of course! 🇨🇳🏳"
What's with your placement of three "Ks" in America? Is that political?
@@HugeTheWarningFan . That is exactly what we as a country have become; so it is how I feel towards 🇺🇸 in general; however the Chinese communist flag is because they pretty much own Us at the present time. The white one which follows represents the fact of Us surrendering to this fascist regime obviously 🙄 so. not so much political as it happens to be 100% true. Pay attention to the things inside of these people teaching your children are trying to fill their hands with I.e; drag pageants and some of their own lifestyle choices and how they’re pushed it on our kids going on right now and why they’re getting away with it. How come the gov’t isn’t saying anything about that sick behavior pushed in our children’s minds as young as 8 years old as I write ✍️? Yeah, that’s what’s going on. Sincerely yours truly, DJP ex PostMortem and Kilslug Boston Massachusetts USA Amerikkka of course 🇨🇳🏳️
Xtro... Great Alien "rip-off"
That life sized action man always freaked me out as a kid !
deep star six....leviathon...life...contamination
IT THE TERROR FROM OUTER SPACE definitely inspired ALIEN the monster attacking it's way through the levels of the ship is text book terror in space.
You just gave credit to my favorite 1950's Sci-Fi movie. I have yet to see another 1950's movie from this genre that is better.
No one talks about Life because it's horrible.
Dude, Vasquez totally rules!
I liked her "softer" looks in Terminator 2 and Near Dark. :)
Kong: Skull Island is an Aliens ripoff. And a good one at that. And what about Pandorum?
INSEMINOID is bad but it doesn't come close to the awfulness of STAR CRYSTAL. Almost nothing does. It's one of the worst sci-movies ever.
Yep, you are right, STAR CRYSTAL is way worse than INSEMINOID!
Rotten Tomatoes is terrible.
Am one of the few people who feels The Thing is better than Alien. The Thing is one of my favs ever, so damn good, its flawless. Alien is also very good.
For me, they're neck and neck.
I can't stand "The Abyss" either. Don't know why people like it.
Rich stop doing these shows?
He has had family commitments...almost made it tonight.