This is why the proposed reboot of B5 will be an absolute unmitgated disaster. Nobody could replace the late, great Andreas Katsulas in the role. Nobody could replace Peter Jurasik as Londo either, for that matter. The chemistry between those two was pure poetry.
"No dictator, no invader, can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against that power, governments and tyrants and armies can not stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once, we will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years...We will be free." This was the most powerful scene of the entire show, and possibly Andreas greatest performance, imo.
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall... think of it, always." ~ Mahatma Gandhi
Its speeches like this that make an EX Purple Triangle start calling himself a Foundationist from now on, The western media bury one's head in the sand when you remind that Azov Is flying Swastikas and Totenkopf's and Vladimir was once KGB, They think we are all dumb, And when the lights go out this winter I know who I'm blaming, Me just this moment and I hate Gandhi.
Except it did not work that way this time. The only thing that made the Centauri leave? Cartagia's death on Narn, which Londo was able to portray as a 'sign from the gods' for them to leave Narn.
No Dictator, No invaders can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against that power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it will take thousand years, we will be free.
This has got to be the best speech that has ever been spoken on this series. Babylon 5 has always been far superior than Deep Space Nine, which many consider to be a direct clone of Babylon 5. Babylon 5 is the best hard science fiction military series ever produced. Hopefully, one day, every nation on Earth will learn the lesson as highlighted here.
Londo's facial expressions throughout the speech were priceless. He is so torn inside, he knows that what his people are doing is wrong, but he is the main cause of the Narn defeat. He has to project strength but he is disgusted with himself and his people.
+Ares99999 Still fits with what Phantomshark said, Londo knows he is directly responsible, he wished for and caused the Narn defeat, however his conscience cannot stand for how the Narn were defeated. Londo knows the Centauri emperor is insane and is dragging his entire race down to his level. What Londo wanted was for the Centauri to show themselves superior, to regain the glory of the days of old, instead his wish made the Centauri a pariah to the other races, he did not get glory instead he just got covered in blood and filth.
KrK007 He realized it almost immediately when he got news of the Narn outpost's destruction. He was aghast at the scale of what he'd set in motion. And again when he witnessed the bombardment of the Narn homeworld.
I agree, 100 percent. When Londo spoke, out of frustration, he was mad over the "Eye," and when you come to think of it, running down some space pirates didn't take a ton of firepower, mainly intelligence. I am guessing that Londo figured that Morden's friends had some firepower, but that they had mainly been able to do it because they knew where the bad guys were. There is a big difference between that an a large scale assault on a major power. To go back to the past, before the association developed between Londo & Morden, the Narns had been pushing the Centauri around. Maybe Londo was hoping for some kind of defensive stand to protect the border, or maybe something where the Narn could be persuaded to give up a sector politically. The difference between what Londo "wanted," and what Morden delivered was one of scale. Londo had no idea how powerful or dangerous the Shadows really were until he was basically welded to them as a partner. Londo might have wanted the Narn pushed back a sector or two, which is probably what the average Centauri Admiral would have given as a best case scenario if there was a war. The idea of being able to totally take out the Narn Empire and besiege their homeworld would probably not have been on Londo's radar, or said hypothetical Centauri Admiral's. At least, that was how I saw it at the time.
It is a testament to the power and art of Andreas Katsulas' acting that this scene and speech are as powerful as they are when he's wearing several inches of latex and makeup. A true talent, he is missed.
You only have to look on Bruce's face here as Sheridan, when he looks upon Andreas giving that speech he's in awe. Absolute awe. What an actor Andreas Katsulas was. And what a moment this was for television.
[STARS]TyranT Your observation is correct. Look at Peter Jurasik... he was also so overwhelmed, he momentarily slipped out of character when Andreas spoke. Yo can see it in his eyes. A softness, almost tearing up a little, as if those words were his (Londo‘s) redemption.. but there was no apparent reason to switch from angry to soft to hard-nosed again.. I strongly believe Peter was caught by surprise ... that show... it’s poetry, it’s a form of faith to me. Not a year goes by without a re-watch. Such awesome stories, galactic actor‘s and actress’s performances. That humble tone to all of it. The grandeur. One if not THE best show ever to grace the screens.
@@ZeitdiebX I honestly think you are both selling Boxleitner and Jurassik short here. Their expressions are just as expertly acted as Katsulas. For Londo, the bluster of his initial speech is covering for weakness and fear. When G'Kar speaks, that fear shows through because he recognises the truth of the words.
That handshake at the end.. the way g'kar clenched his hand was like he was holding onto the last bit of hope and will to push forward and he did. Sheridan kept his word even if it would've cost him his rank and possibly his life but that small spark was all that was needed.
We- the West and the East Ukraine- never had anything in common. A lot of my Reb and Reb sympathizers friends became Loyalists after 2022 but it doesn't mean they have any use for BlackRock, Nudelman, Zelensky and his Gestapo/SBU.
"“No dictator, no invader, can hold an imprisoned population by the force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against that power governments, and tyrants, and armies can not stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.”" These words of G'Kar are now more true than ever.
@paraglide01 Even he can't do it forever as we have witnessed over the last few weeks/months. Every dictatorship or force that has ruled by using fear and violence in the history of this planet has fallen so far. Obviously there will always be new ones in which leaders think they can do it better and they may persist longer by avoiding mistakes other dictators made. Still they will fall sooner or later.
1:30 It's stuff like this that makes a great show. One of those moments of drama that not only defines people, but peoples and nations, performed in the space of seconds. Even a being as old as Kosh can't help but look. It's in the little moments too. At 2:25, Londo could have just talked over G'kar, but chooses not to. Londo's a patriot, but he knows what he and the Centauri are doing is wrong, and he still respects G'kar despite everything, so he lets him speak. It's incredible writing, from start to finish.
This is one of the best scenes in B5, Andreas Katsulas and Peter Jurasik are just brilliant as G'Kar and Londo. Utterly brilliant, time for my yearly B5 week....
Magnificent writing Magnificent acting! London's "NOW!" is so striking, the single moment we know for sure Londo is lost...and then the dignity and power of G'kar's response...!
He was a massive talent but given the Holly wood star system he did not have the right name or look for them but he was brilliant for B5 so it was our gain and their loss.
Wow, Andreas Katsulas is such an brilliant actor. Even with that heavy make-up on, his ability to emote is not diminshed. From the dulcet tone of his voice, his expertly timed darting eye movements, the way his lips move when he annunciates...everything is sublime and transcendent. The evolution of his character throughout the series from a broken man with only revenge left in his bones to his spiritual awakening in prison similar to Malcolm X and finally his unwilling rise to prophet. I also loved how both Londo and G'Kar both rose to power unwillingly, sacrificing themselves for their people.
And yet, Peter Jurasik is often neglected in this partnership with G'Kar. The two of them had a great way of interacting as if they fed off each other. The two characters, G'Kar and Londo were wonderfully written and acted.
Peter Jurasik was often neglected in this dynamic beetween him and G'Kar. These 2 fed off each other which was quite interesting and the writers did a really good job writing these 2
They just don't make SciFi shows like this anymore! The character development over special effects made it! The G'Kar/Malory relationship development was outstanding! From mortal enemies to reluctant friends. One of my favorite scenes was G'Kar saying "My people can never forgive your people, but I can forgive you."
i love Adnreas Katsulas' protrayal of G'kar and believe it's one of the best characters and actor portrayals in TV history, however what not seen is the love for Peter Jurasik's portrayals of Londo. the part where he cuts Sheridan off with that "NOW" was perfect. timing, inflection and emotion, it gives me goose bumps every time i see it.....
I can't imagine it was easy for someone as proud as G'Kar to ask for help from anyone. His character had really started to grow by this point in season 2. You can see the huge respect Sheridan has for G'Kar in the last minute and twenty seconds of this scene. Huge credit to both actors for their brilliant performances.
The same with Garibaldi when he went to talk with him about arms buying. He offered him help as well in the way he could ship arms to Narn and stay away from B5. 'Why? Because you didn't lie to me.'
@@stonem0013 That is incorrect. Gkar's government told him, in their last message, to ask for sanctuary from Sheridan - and they KNEW it would be hard for him to ask, but it was required of him for all of Narn.
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” ― C.S. Lewis
A somewhat ironic attitude to adopt for an ardent Christian like Lewis considering the role played by the church in European history for roughly a millennium and a half...
@@spaceclaw1958 implying republicans aren't moral busy bodies themselves when matters like religions, science or things like drug legalization are at hand. then they suddenly want a police state to 'enforce good christian morals' or whatever euphemism they use these days
I would consider that one of the greatest scenes ever to grace the televisions of the world. Though Andreas Katsulas may be gone, his words will live on .
"NOW!!" Superb moment. After hearing Sheridan all but gloating about the fact that G'Kar would stay free and that he didn't sign the surrender agreement, it was nice to see Londo shut the man up.
+Ares99999 Seeing Sheridan go from shocked to pissed off in about two seconds was amazing, I loved it when Londo shouted "NOW!". One of my favorite scenes.
MonstrousEntity Well, Sheridan was generally a self-righteous asshole. So was Londo, true, but at least Londo eventually dropped much of his self-righteousness. Sheridan never did.
This is epic scene from start to finish I loved everything, from Londo speech of what will be w/The narns and J'kar to Sheridan telling him NO J'kar is here to stay even Delenn helped here ,to Londo shouting now to J'akar standing up and giving the speech of his life and everyone is just standing there in a wow moment I think the actors were in amazement too.. This is Emmy scene
I'm going to be real. I'm going to tell the hard truth as best I believe and know it. This show at times was corny. It had cringeworthy moments and it had sometimes rather overdramatic performances that made me wince. And it was at times an AMAZING show that could stir emotions, feelings, thoughts and viewpoints. It had some of the most POWERFUL moments and it had dialogue that could be so MOVING and RELEVANT with EXCELLENT performances that outdo almost anything else. This scene was excellent. The actor portraying G'Kar (God rest his soul in Heaven) was truly AMAZING. As a man of Irish ethnicity with some family in Ireland, I can understand G'kar and his speech concerning the English and it's history. But I also remember G'kar can forgive. This was amazing. I am grateful for the memories. I am grateful it erred on the side of POWERFUL performances rather than underwhelming ones. I am grateful, for the show Babylon 5.
Something of interest in the council scene- Kosh's presence. He really doesn't need to be at this (what any other Vorlon would consider) petty argument and waste his time, yet he is. And not only is he there, he seems to feel for G'kar- he actually turns to look at G'kar after Londo demands his removal, then follows him out with his head.
Dies that include those that wanted their freedom to not join Nato respected as well? Funny how the US has been trying g to get this proxy war for decades.
I think every dictator and psychopathic control freak needs to hear this speech. I get teary eyed every time I watch it. And this is coming from a fictional character. I can't remember any historical figure who said anything remotely near this eloquent and inspiring.
+UnplugTheMatrix "Men since the beginning of time have sought peace. Various methods through the ages have attempted to devise an international process to prevent or settle disputes between nations. From the very start workable methods were found insofar as individual citizens were concerned, but the mechanics of an instrumentality of larger international scope have never been successful. Military alliances, balances of power, leagues of nations, all in turn failed, leaving the only path to be by way of the crucible of war. _We have had our last chance._ If we do not now devise some greater and more equitable system, Armageddon will be at our door. The problem basically is theological and involves a spiritual recrudescence and improvement of human character that will synchronize with our almost matchless advances in science, art, literature and all material and cultural developments of the past two thousand years. It must be of the spirit if we are to save the flesh." -Douglas MacArthur at the signing of the peace treaty ending war between Japan and the United States.
+UnplugTheMatrix The Roman Empire had a dictator for several centuries, yet the people were mostly free. In the muslim world, most dictators have been overthrown and democracy reigns, yet people in those countries live in fear. Democracy isn't the same thing as Freedom, Dictatorship isn't the same thing as Tyranny.
+UnplugTheMatrix Freedom is kind of relative. What is free to one person is not the same to another. And history has shown that people who are free has a tendency to progressively choose slavery and vice versa.
Simon L that's because people don't really want universal freedom, they want freedom for themselves and rules to govern the actions of others to make the world more predictable and less scary for them.
khatack in other words, everyone wants to be a dictator and force others to do their bidding. I get it. All this fighting between political parties is really to force the opposing side to be the slave
I heard a rumor a while ago that they wanted to reboot B5. But how could you come close to this level of acting and emotion. You may be able to outdo the graphics and sets etc but the people playing those iconic roles can never be replicated.
I love the way G'kar stands up from his chair...the actors that were in this series KILLED every aspect they could. From the way they moved to the simple delivery of lines. This is theater in space done right.
Andreas and Peter are such awesome actors, every scene they did together was a show stealer, everything in Babylon 5 revolved around their relationship. Still one of the Best Sci Fi Series ever
G'Kar is my favorite Babylon 5 character of all time and this speech of his is my favorite Babylon 5 quote of all time. I think I'd have it etched on my tombstone or something. So beautiful. RIP Andreas Katsulas
And NO ONE belived Ukraine would be able to hold out, let alone WIN this war as they do at this moment. Sad that this wannabe Mercenary could have ENDED it completly right then and there at saturday... he chose not do because of some stupid reason of "i wont attack fellow russians"... their humans, also they are SLAUGHTERING other humans. He had a chanze to end it and chose covardice.
One of the things I love about this scene is the fact we know Londo is conflicted, we know the war has gone far beyond anything he wanted, but he can't let others see that. Knowing that under the harsh words and demanding tone is a man who's trapped in a situation where he sees no escape adds a whole other level to the performance.
School children are given Shakespeare to learn. I would like to think that in another couple of hundred years (if our species survives that long) that children are given this to learn instead.
In another time and in another Universe the book of G'kar is essential reading, stories will be told and songs will be sung about a person who sacrificed himself for his people and the name of G'kar is spoken with reverence
In 'deconstruction of falling stars' we see that this has happened. The characters of B5 are revealed to be semi-legendary icons similar to King Arthur and his Knights.
Keeva2006 yes it does shivers down myspine of embarrassment. I know which episode and season that was. That speech was just plain childish. They could have done it better on Ivonava speech.
+oomusd agreed but I still prefer, "Why not? Only one human captain has survived battle with the Minbari fleet. He is behind me. You are in front of me. If you value your lives, be somewhere else!" ;)
Londo's dialogue was often fantastic as well. An example of an impactful scenes in Babylon 5 is where he confronts Mr. Mordon and destroys the Shadow base, and then he tells Vir to kill him....
@@valrond All JMS had to do was draw on a little history. Sad to say. Although even JMS did not depict the story of a nation / people horrifically run over 4 times by invaders in one century, and yet having the will to now fight back, with a totally unlikely leader too!
Really? So G'Kar and the Narn deliberately discriminated against and attacked ethnic Centauri on Narn? Centauri who had been there for centuries and whose lands were historically never part of Narn? I think you'll find that G'Kar's speech is just as applicable to the ethnic Russians in the Donbas, who have suffered 8 years of war waged by the Neo-Nazis in Kiev. Perhaps you should realize that the Ukrainians are allies of the Shadows in all this. They are not the 'good guys'.
From the moment of this speech,I recognized the acting ability of Mr. Katsulas! That ability is missing so many actors and actresses who have entered the entertainment industry in the last 20 years and there are so few left who have it!
When I got to this part in the series, I totally wanted to go buy a ship and start supplying weapons to the Narn and shuttling people off the world and ambushing Centauri patrol craft and just be the Jim Raynor to his Tassadar SO bad. Also, would have loved to have seen King Arthur make a return during the Centauri occupation. Would've been cool to have him show up randomly leading a band of freedom fighters.
That would have been great. I loved the episode with Michael York. To paraphrase G'Kar, "No ancient enemies or prophecies! They were the bad guys, and we were the good guys!"
''As a co-sponsor of Babylon 5, the Minbari government supports this decision.'' I love the way Sheridan turns his head to her in that moment, maybe in relief, but also to essentially say, ''Thanks, babe, I knew you'd have my back.'' They're not even a couple yet at this point in the series, but they still stand together on so many of their values.
No, G'Kar and Londo- while surrogate brothers- are still two different species, nations- call it what you will. The East and West Ukrainians are supposed to be one nation- which they're not of course.
It's amazing to think that in the multi-year arc of this show , Londo and G'Kar went from being total rivals to friends ...... possibly their last scene together with Londo saying the position of Emperor changes you ... and G'Kar saying even if his people can never forgive his people, that he can forgive Londo .... wow, this show was a roller-coaster of so many things... emotions, political understanding, being introduced to the idea of fake news propaganda, etc ... I feel this show opened my eyes to how things really work in the world of political power , media control and many other things
Oh Ukraine? You mean the same country whom the US media have conveniently forgot to inform you, or have flat out been hiding the fact that they have been putting the people of Donbas (DPR) Luhanske (LPR) and Crimea under seige since those regions declared independence in 2014? The ones that Ukraine agreed to and signed the Minsk accords to have talks to but never fulfuilled and instead shelled and even sniped at civilians because they were ethnic Russians in the east? That Ukraine? Crocodile tears I say.
@@Arthirias You conveniently forgot the whole military conflict started when Russia invaded Crimea, and not even "properly", but with unmarked military personnel, after which they started waging war through the separatists. People like you always conveniently forget to mention the attack against Ukraine continued after Crimea was invaded.
@@Arthirias Donbas is a instigated uprising to give Russia buffer bitch state they are nothing without Russia and will be nothing without Russia there existed is a lie filled by cowards and oligarch money.
This show was awesome and still is. it touches on so MANY viable and serious topics. I love this show, and will miss Andreas Katsulas deeply. his roles on star trek were good but i remember him best and most lovingly as G'Kar. R.I.P.
G'Kar was the villain in the pilot episode, when he conspired to assassinate Kosh and frame Sinclair for it. (I don't know HOW Sinclair could NOT hold a grudge against him for that) G'Kar was also portrayed as the villain in the first episode, "Midnight on the Firing Line", when the Narns attacked Ragesh 3, the Centauri civilian agricultural colony. It was later on in "By Any Means Necessary" that Londo started to become the "bad guy" and G'Kar became the victim.
+Volthoom That tiny reaction from Kosh is a lot more then he usually does in council meetings... when he even bothers to show. I think he actually cared.
+GhostInTheShell29 I agree, and I feel like the fact he even showed up shows he cared. **edit also when Kosh helps G'Kar later on in the series(by talking to him in the dream or whatever) also shows that he cared what happened to the Narns.
The ambitious, devious, DANGEROUS Narn with their backs to the wall became noble and sympathetic. The has-been Centauri with wind in their sails became a threat to all. There is a Spanish saying, nothing is the truth or a lie, everything is the color of the glass you look at it with.
this is one of the best scenes in scifi, i have ever seen... but still, watching Londo, his is the best character arc in the show... :) i get chills everytime i see this :)
This was one of the greatest space operas ever made stuff set up season one pays off in season six people talk like adults that are professionals in their fields. This is what right looks like Kurtman trek is dog shit on the sidewalk of sci fi
The evolution of G'kar & Londo throughout the series is one of J. Michael's greatest writing feats in creating Babylon 5, and the life given to the characters by Andreas & Peter made it truly memorable. For those who do not know this fact, J. Michael Straczynski had written the entire series before he ever pitched it to anyone, a rarity in television history that is emblematic of its unique place in the annals of sci-fi. It will never be equaled or replicated.
Kosh: "They are a dying race. We should let them pass."
Sinclair: "Who? The Narn or the Centauri?"
Kosh: "........... Yes."
So
Kosh is the youtube commenter meme of "not yes/no question answered with yes" before y.t. was a thing!
"We are all UA-cam commenters."
@@thatHARVguy Exactly.
I have always been here
I always thought what Kosh meant by that is that he sees all of the younger races as the same thing. All one race.
Takes a HELL of an actor to steal the whole damn scene in that kind of situation.
And he did it BEAUTIFULLY.
He didn't steal the scene, he was the scene.
@@Alkis05 wanna be friends?
This is why the proposed reboot of B5 will be an absolute unmitgated disaster. Nobody could replace the late, great Andreas Katsulas in the role. Nobody could replace Peter Jurasik as Londo either, for that matter. The chemistry between those two was pure poetry.
@@MCDrB-wq8ed honestly i feel the same way. Id love tonsee more b5. But i dont know anyway you could match this. Ever.
my thought, exactly ...
"No dictator, no invader, can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against that power, governments and tyrants and armies can not stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once, we will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years...We will be free."
This was the most powerful scene of the entire show, and possibly Andreas greatest performance, imo.
"When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall... think of it, always." ~ Mahatma Gandhi
I remembwr thinking it was a strangely idealistic and moral speech from a character who had often been a ruthless pragmatist for Narn
Its speeches like this that make an EX Purple Triangle start calling himself a
Foundationist from now on, The western media bury one's head in the sand
when you remind that Azov Is flying Swastikas and Totenkopf's and Vladimir was once KGB,
They think we are all dumb, And when the lights go out this winter I know who I'm blaming,
Me just this moment and I hate Gandhi.
Except it did not work that way this time. The only thing that made the Centauri leave? Cartagia's death on Narn, which Londo was able to portray as a 'sign from the gods' for them to leave Narn.
Slava Ukraini!
No Dictator, No invaders can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against that power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it will take thousand years, we will be free.
This has got to be the best speech that has ever been spoken on this series. Babylon 5 has always been far superior than Deep Space Nine, which many consider to be a direct clone of Babylon 5. Babylon 5 is the best hard science fiction military series ever produced. Hopefully, one day, every nation on Earth will learn the lesson as highlighted here.
@xc5647321 xc5647321 Jesus...
@xc5647321 xc5647321 Goddamn, man....let it go.
_The Borg: shows up_
_Gkar: surprised pikachu face_
@xc5647321 xc5647321 Funny thing is, the more you spew about it, the less I care.
Londo's facial expressions throughout the speech were priceless. He is so torn inside, he knows that what his people are doing is wrong, but he is the main cause of the Narn defeat. He has to project strength but he is disgusted with himself and his people.
+phantomshark Actually, he wanted the Narn defeated. He just found that his side went too far.
+Ares99999 Still fits with what Phantomshark said, Londo knows he is directly responsible, he wished for and caused the Narn defeat, however his conscience cannot stand for how the Narn were defeated. Londo knows the Centauri emperor is insane and is dragging his entire race down to his level.
What Londo wanted was for the Centauri to show themselves superior, to regain the glory of the days of old, instead his wish made the Centauri a pariah to the other races, he did not get glory instead he just got covered in blood and filth.
He also began to realize his mistake with Mr. Mordon and his "Associates."
KrK007 He realized it almost immediately when he got news of the Narn outpost's destruction. He was aghast at the scale of what he'd set in motion. And again when he witnessed the bombardment of the Narn homeworld.
I agree, 100 percent. When Londo spoke, out of frustration, he was mad over the "Eye," and when you come to think of it, running down some space pirates didn't take a ton of firepower, mainly intelligence. I am guessing that Londo figured that Morden's friends had some firepower, but that they had mainly been able to do it because they knew where the bad guys were. There is a big difference between that an a large scale assault on a major power.
To go back to the past, before the association developed between Londo & Morden, the Narns had been pushing the Centauri around. Maybe Londo was hoping for some kind of defensive stand to protect the border, or maybe something where the Narn could be persuaded to give up a sector politically. The difference between what Londo "wanted," and what Morden delivered was one of scale. Londo had no idea how powerful or dangerous the Shadows really were until he was basically welded to them as a partner. Londo might have wanted the Narn pushed back a sector or two, which is probably what the average Centauri Admiral would have given as a best case scenario if there was a war. The idea of being able to totally take out the Narn Empire and besiege their homeworld would probably not have been on Londo's radar, or said hypothetical Centauri Admiral's. At least, that was how I saw it at the time.
It is a testament to the power and art of Andreas Katsulas' acting that this scene and speech are as powerful as they are when he's wearing several inches of latex and makeup. A true talent, he is missed.
You only have to look on Bruce's face here as Sheridan, when he looks upon Andreas giving that speech he's in awe. Absolute awe. What an actor Andreas Katsulas was. And what a moment this was for television.
Totally and humbly agree with all you said above.
[STARS]TyranT Your observation is correct. Look at Peter Jurasik... he was also so overwhelmed, he momentarily slipped out of character when Andreas spoke. Yo can see it in his eyes. A softness, almost tearing up a little, as if those words were his (Londo‘s) redemption.. but there was no apparent reason to switch from angry to soft to hard-nosed again.. I strongly believe Peter was caught by surprise ... that show... it’s poetry, it’s a form of faith to me. Not a year goes by without a re-watch. Such awesome stories, galactic actor‘s and actress’s performances. That humble tone to all of it. The grandeur. One if not THE best show ever to grace the screens.
@@ZeitdiebX I honestly think you are both selling Boxleitner and Jurassik short here. Their expressions are just as expertly acted as Katsulas. For Londo, the bluster of his initial speech is covering for weakness and fear. When G'Kar speaks, that fear shows through because he recognises the truth of the words.
Well said, and I agree with all of the above/
I like all three actors. I love Babylon 5
That handshake at the end.. the way g'kar clenched his hand was like he was holding onto the last bit of hope and will to push forward and he did. Sheridan kept his word even if it would've cost him his rank and possibly his life but that small spark was all that was needed.
"No dictator, no invader, can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever." It's 2023 and this is more true than ever.
Yes. Donbass is still standing. 10 years. 10 bloody years!
@@tatianalyulkin410that’s an odd way to see the Russian invasion of Ukraine
We- the West and the East Ukraine- never had anything in common. A lot of my Reb and Reb sympathizers friends became Loyalists after 2022 but it doesn't mean they have any use for BlackRock, Nudelman, Zelensky and his Gestapo/SBU.
@@tatianalyulkin410 keep spouting the propaganda
Keep holding on to Uncle Georgie's Banderite drivel. Hail Hydra! 🤣
Words which never grew old, but sounds like spoken right now. May G'Kar be right this time too.
"“No dictator, no invader, can hold an imprisoned population by the force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against that power
governments, and tyrants, and armies can not stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.”"
These words of G'Kar are now more true than ever.
Londo's "NOW!" makes my skin go goosbumps even after all this years. Incredible. Fascinating. Breathtaking.
G'Kar's speech shows the caliber of Andreas Katsulas's acting ability.
This is one of the best moments in all of television history.
R.I.P Andreas Katsulas AKA "G'KAR" Never Forgotten.
No Dicatator, No Invader, Can Hold An Imprisoned Population By Force Of Arms Forever!!
Its very similar to the quote from Victor Hugo ,no army can stop an idea who's time has come.
wayne gornal
Kim Jung Un can.
Gone, exploring beyond the rim.
@paraglide01 Even he can't do it forever as we have witnessed over the last few weeks/months. Every dictatorship or force that has ruled by using fear and violence in the history of this planet has fallen so far.
Obviously there will always be new ones in which leaders think they can do it better and they may persist longer by avoiding mistakes other dictators made. Still they will fall sooner or later.
I remember that scene, I was 13 years old. Now I'm 38 years old and I'll be commenting on this scene again in 10 years. Babylon 5 in honor -Germany
Andreas Katsulas was the best actor in the whole series. Peter Jurasik a close second! Londo and G'kar drove the whole thing!
And both combined was even better!
1:30 It's stuff like this that makes a great show. One of those moments of drama that not only defines people, but peoples and nations, performed in the space of seconds. Even a being as old as Kosh can't help but look.
It's in the little moments too. At 2:25, Londo could have just talked over G'kar, but chooses not to. Londo's a patriot, but he knows what he and the Centauri are doing is wrong, and he still respects G'kar despite everything, so he lets him speak. It's incredible writing, from start to finish.
Londo goes through a rollercoaster of emotions and growth as the series progresses.
I've rewatched the entire series once again. B5 was a prophetic representation of what is going on politically right NOW!
Yep. My teach must have at least some West Ukrainian Mal'far blood in him. He predicted a helluva lot.
This is one of the best scenes in B5, Andreas Katsulas and Peter Jurasik are just brilliant as G'Kar and Londo.
Utterly brilliant, time for my yearly B5 week....
Magnificent writing
Magnificent acting!
London's "NOW!" is so striking, the single moment we know for sure Londo is lost...and then the dignity and power of G'kar's response...!
Sheridan in a blink of a second, going from diplamatic to full pissed off....even londo realised in that second, that he made mistake :)
I feel John Sheridan inhaling and being ready to fight in this moment. Then G'kar speaks words that are universal to all people.
Londo was also beautiful
at turn angry, sad, at awe to G'kar and then back to fear. just by the expressions.
Babylon 5. Is the BEST scifi tv show EVER. I watch it every year, cannot get enough of it. Brilliant.
Andreas Katsulas ein großartiger Schauspieler, mit Karismar
Beneath all that makeup, Andreas Katsulas has more emotion than any Oscar winner.
Yes
THROUGH all that makeup, Andreas Katsulas had more emotion than any Oscar winner.
He was a massive talent but given the Holly wood star system he did not have the right name or look for them but he was brilliant for B5 so it was our gain and their loss.
B5 had some of the absolute best and absolute worst acting.
@@kanyefuck7018 There were some truly horrible performances in that show, but the main cast was rock solid.
Wow, Andreas Katsulas is such an brilliant actor. Even with that heavy make-up on, his ability to emote is not diminshed. From the dulcet tone of his voice, his expertly timed darting eye movements, the way his lips move when he annunciates...everything is sublime and transcendent. The evolution of his character throughout the series from a broken man with only revenge left in his bones to his spiritual awakening in prison similar to Malcolm X and finally his unwilling rise to prophet. I also loved how both Londo and G'Kar both rose to power unwillingly, sacrificing themselves for their people.
+Brandon Turner indeed,honour him.
Indeed, he was amazing, and he completely made G'Kar come alive with his skills. Such great writing.
And yet, Peter Jurasik is often neglected in this partnership with G'Kar. The two of them had a great way of interacting as if they fed off each other. The two characters, G'Kar and Londo were wonderfully written and acted.
Peter Jurasik was often neglected in this dynamic beetween him and G'Kar. These 2 fed off each other which was quite interesting and the writers did a really good job writing these 2
Those two were a matched pair. Equal yet totally different. Sheridan and Delenn were the driving force of the show, but Londo and G'Kar were the soul.
They just don't make SciFi shows like this anymore! The character development over special effects made it! The G'Kar/Malory relationship development was outstanding! From mortal enemies to reluctant friends. One of my favorite scenes was G'Kar saying "My people can never forgive your people, but I can forgive you."
*Still* a better love story than TWILIGHT!😁
i love Adnreas Katsulas' protrayal of G'kar and believe it's one of the best characters and actor portrayals in TV history, however what not seen is the love for Peter Jurasik's portrayals of Londo. the part where he cuts Sheridan off with that "NOW" was perfect. timing, inflection and emotion, it gives me goose bumps every time i see it.....
I can't imagine it was easy for someone as proud as G'Kar to ask for help from anyone. His character had really started to grow by this point in season 2. You can see the huge respect Sheridan has for G'Kar in the last minute and twenty seconds of this scene. Huge credit to both actors for their brilliant performances.
He didn't ask - Sheridan offered
The same with Garibaldi when he went to talk with him about arms buying. He offered him help as well in the way he could ship arms to Narn and stay away from B5. 'Why? Because you didn't lie to me.'
@@stonem0013 That is incorrect. Gkar's government told him, in their last message, to ask for sanctuary from Sheridan - and they KNEW it would be hard for him to ask, but it was required of him for all of Narn.
@@lindadoune The scene where he walks into Sheradin's office to make his request is just as powerful
"We will be Free." I love how Andreas says that, it's true passion.
I remember when I was watching this series back in the day, this was the moment I knew I was seeing something beyond your normal scifi-fodder.
Great scene full of dignity and passion Katsulas and Jurasik at their very best.
Two masters of their craft.
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”
― C.S. Lewis
Truer today than when he first wrote it.
I can think of no better description of Republicans & democrats, than simply "robber barons, and moral busybodies"
That is what should be read at the opening of all Legislative Secession's, not sure it would help but it should be done anyway.
A somewhat ironic attitude to adopt for an ardent Christian like Lewis considering the role played by the church in European history for roughly a millennium and a half...
@@spaceclaw1958 implying republicans aren't moral busy bodies themselves when matters like religions, science or things like drug legalization are at hand. then they suddenly want a police state to 'enforce good christian morals' or whatever euphemism they use these days
I would consider that one of the greatest scenes ever to grace the televisions of the world. Though Andreas Katsulas may be gone, his words will live on .
"NOW!!"
Superb moment.
After hearing Sheridan all but gloating about the fact that G'Kar would stay free and that he didn't sign the surrender agreement, it was nice to see Londo shut the man up.
+Ares99999 Seeing Sheridan go from shocked to pissed off in about two seconds was amazing, I loved it when Londo shouted "NOW!". One of my favorite scenes.
MonstrousEntity Well, Sheridan was generally a self-righteous asshole. So was Londo, true, but at least Londo eventually dropped much of his self-righteousness. Sheridan never did.
This is epic scene from start to finish I loved everything, from Londo speech of what will be w/The narns and J'kar to Sheridan telling him NO J'kar is here to stay even Delenn helped here ,to Londo shouting now to J'akar standing up and giving the speech of his life and everyone is just standing there in a wow moment I think the actors were in amazement too.. This is Emmy scene
Once again Babylon 5 shows parallels and prescience to what's happening in reality. Such a powerful scene.
Star Trek did that as well.
I'm going to be real. I'm going to tell the hard truth as best I believe and know it. This show at times was corny. It had cringeworthy moments and it had sometimes rather overdramatic performances that made me wince.
And it was at times an AMAZING show that could stir emotions, feelings, thoughts and viewpoints. It had some of the most POWERFUL moments and it had dialogue that could be so MOVING and RELEVANT with EXCELLENT performances that outdo almost anything else.
This scene was excellent. The actor portraying G'Kar (God rest his soul in Heaven) was truly AMAZING. As a man of Irish ethnicity with some family in Ireland, I can understand G'kar and his speech concerning the English and it's history.
But I also remember G'kar can forgive. This was amazing. I am grateful for the memories. I am grateful it erred on the side of POWERFUL performances rather than underwhelming ones. I am grateful, for the show Babylon 5.
God, I miss Babylon 5. Andreas Katsulas fucking brought it on this show.
Something of interest in the council scene- Kosh's presence. He really doesn't need to be at this (what any other Vorlon would consider) petty argument and waste his time, yet he is. And not only is he there, he seems to feel for G'kar- he actually turns to look at G'kar after Londo demands his removal, then follows him out with his head.
Gkar's freedom speech reminds of the speech for the movie the Dictator with Charlie Chaplin
I was thinking of this speech watching tanks roll into Kyiv, god bless all those looking for freedom
Russia will bring freedom and then Berlin is next. The Nazis will be destroyed.
Fuck them
Dies that include those that wanted their freedom to not join Nato respected as well?
Funny how the US has been trying g to get this proxy war for decades.
Жители Донбасса ищут свободы от угнетателей, засевших в Киеве!
Now I think of yar null and the dark future of America
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feels relevant right now :(
NOW!
One of the profound moments of my childhood.
One of the best speeches in the entire series.😎
I think every dictator and psychopathic control freak needs to hear this speech. I get teary eyed every time I watch it. And this is coming from a fictional character. I can't remember any historical figure who said anything remotely near this eloquent and inspiring.
+UnplugTheMatrix
"Men since the beginning of time have sought peace. Various methods
through the ages have attempted to devise an international process to
prevent or settle disputes between nations. From the very start workable
methods were found insofar as individual citizens were concerned, but
the mechanics of an instrumentality of larger international scope have
never been successful. Military alliances, balances of power, leagues of
nations, all in turn failed, leaving the only path to be by way of the
crucible of war.
_We have had our last chance._ If we do not now devise some greater and
more equitable system, Armageddon will be at our door. The problem
basically is theological and involves a spiritual recrudescence and
improvement of human character that will synchronize with our almost
matchless advances in science, art, literature and all material and
cultural developments of the past two thousand years. It must be of the
spirit if we are to save the flesh."
-Douglas MacArthur at the signing of the peace treaty ending war between
Japan and the United States.
+UnplugTheMatrix The Roman Empire had a dictator for several centuries, yet the people were mostly free. In the muslim world, most dictators have been overthrown and democracy reigns, yet people in those countries live in fear. Democracy isn't the same thing as Freedom, Dictatorship isn't the same thing as Tyranny.
+UnplugTheMatrix Freedom is kind of relative. What is free to one person is not the same to another. And history has shown that people who are free has a tendency to progressively choose slavery and vice versa.
Simon L that's because people don't really want universal freedom, they want freedom for themselves and rules to govern the actions of others to make the world more predictable and less scary for them.
khatack in other words, everyone wants to be a dictator and force others to do their bidding. I get it. All this fighting between political parties is really to force the opposing side to be the slave
I heard a rumor a while ago that they wanted to reboot B5. But how could you come close to this level of acting and emotion. You may be able to outdo the graphics and sets etc but the people playing those iconic roles can never be replicated.
The Book of G'Kar has a coffee ring on one page, all Narn books of wisdom have to be copied exactly by hand.
Mike Cimerian Nice snipe at the people who take religion much to serious.
It's the best part of the book! LOL
Page 436 G'quan writes of the mindwalkers...
Coffee ring edit courtesy of Michael Garibaldi... ;)
@@testicularoxide5055
Garibaldi: "The clues are right HERE... (thumps book...)
G'Kar: "PLEASE do not thump the Book of G'Quan..." ;)
I remember when i first saw this scene i was literaly petrified for a while and to this day every time i see it i get goosebumps.
JMS Can write. This, The Centari Emperor, Other G'Kar speeches they all bring tears to my eye
Write? Hell, my teach can predict the future.
RIP Andreas. You will always be remembered.
I like the Elevator Scene the best. G'Kar having a right old time seeing Londo act like a cornered rat. I was laughing so hard.
+Phelan lol :D great scene great actors, long live G'Kar!
As the humans say: Up yours, die! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
eeven better is the fact the G'kar was laughing was a spur of the moment choice by Andrea's and not scripted. The man was brilliant.
Londo said to kill him, he didn't want to suffer, G'kar said no, if I killed you than 500 Narns would be killed in retaliation. How is that for irony.
I love the way G'kar stands up from his chair...the actors that were in this series KILLED every aspect they could. From the way they moved to the simple delivery of lines. This is theater in space done right.
I liked when Londo opened his mouth to say something, then realized he had nothing to say and promptly shut it with not even a sigh.
Andreas and Peter are such awesome actors, every scene they did together was a show stealer, everything in Babylon 5 revolved around their relationship. Still one of the Best Sci Fi Series ever
Brilliant. Still miss this. Two great actors playing too great characters.
G'Kar is my favorite Babylon 5 character of all time and this speech of his is my favorite Babylon 5 quote of all time. I think I'd have it etched on my tombstone or something. So beautiful. RIP Andreas Katsulas
Truer words were never spoken. By far the best scene in the whole series.
ghanimajade Nah, I think Vir telling Morden off was better
And now I wanna cry. RIP Stephen Furst.
And this is why I loved this show WAY more than ANYTHING Star Trek, Next Gen and beyond.
This scene is hitting extra hard today, February 24, 2022.
Could not agree more.
And NO ONE belived Ukraine would be able to hold out, let alone WIN this war as they do at this moment.
Sad that this wannabe Mercenary could have ENDED it completly right then and there at saturday... he chose not do because of some stupid reason of "i wont attack fellow russians"... their humans, also they are SLAUGHTERING other humans. He had a chanze to end it and chose covardice.
The bloody civil war did not start in 2022! Do you always read your books starting with Chapter 10? 🤣
@@tatianalyulkin410 What are you talking about?
I'm talking about the reality- not Barack's and Nudelman's fairy tales. We're fighting since 2014.
"Though it take a thousand years...we will be free!" A thousand? Try less than three; how does that grab you? 😎
Jesus...that scene STILL gives me goosebumps whenever I watch it!
One of the things I love about this scene is the fact we know Londo is conflicted, we know the war has gone far beyond anything he wanted, but he can't let others see that. Knowing that under the harsh words and demanding tone is a man who's trapped in a situation where he sees no escape adds a whole other level to the performance.
"My shoes are too tight. But it does not matter because I have forgotten how to dance."
School children are given Shakespeare to learn. I would like to think that in another couple of hundred years (if our species survives that long) that children are given this to learn instead.
In another time and in another Universe the book of G'kar is essential reading, stories will be told and songs will be sung about a person who sacrificed himself for his people and the name of G'kar is spoken with reverence
Both. Both would be good.
In 'deconstruction of falling stars' we see that this has happened.
The characters of B5 are revealed to be semi-legendary icons similar to King Arthur and his Knights.
Powerful words even though they were written for a sci fi show they should be heeded by all government. G'Kar bringing truth. God I miss this show.
This is arguably the definitive speech of the entire series.
Keeva2006 yes it does shivers down myspine of embarrassment. I know which episode and season that was. That speech was just plain childish. They could have done it better on Ivonava speech.
"You came just as far to say less"
Delenn was also a beautiful orator.
+oomusd "Don't look away, Captain."
+oomusd agreed but I still prefer, "Why not? Only one human captain has survived battle with the Minbari fleet. He is behind me. You are in front of me. If you value your lives, be somewhere else!" ;)
Londo's dialogue was often fantastic as well. An example of an impactful scenes in Babylon 5 is where he confronts Mr. Mordon and destroys the Shadow base, and then he tells Vir to kill him....
Given what is happening with Russia and Ukraine...G'kar's speech feels more relevant than ever before. 🇺🇦❤
Glad I wasn’t the only one reminded of this scene by recent events
Oh yes, so true. I came here bc of recent events. It makes this scene all the more powerful
Came here to say the same. B5 was really prophetic.
@@valrond All JMS had to do was draw on a little history. Sad to say. Although even JMS did not depict the story of a nation / people horrifically run over 4 times by invaders in one century, and yet having the will to now fight back, with a totally unlikely leader too!
Really? So G'Kar and the Narn deliberately discriminated against and attacked ethnic Centauri on Narn? Centauri who had been there for centuries and whose lands were historically never part of Narn? I think you'll find that G'Kar's speech is just as applicable to the ethnic Russians in the Donbas, who have suffered 8 years of war waged by the Neo-Nazis in Kiev. Perhaps you should realize that the Ukrainians are allies of the Shadows in all this. They are not the 'good guys'.
I love the look Sheriden gives Londo. As though he is daring him to raise his voice to him again.
From the moment of this speech,I recognized the acting ability of Mr. Katsulas! That ability is missing so many actors and actresses who have entered the entertainment industry in the last 20 years and there are so few left who have it!
"Though it take a thousand years, we will be *free*." You tell 'em G-Man!
When I got to this part in the series, I totally wanted to go buy a ship and start supplying weapons to the Narn and shuttling people off the world and ambushing Centauri patrol craft and just be the Jim Raynor to his Tassadar SO bad. Also, would have loved to have seen King Arthur make a return during the Centauri occupation. Would've been cool to have him show up randomly leading a band of freedom fighters.
That would have been great. I loved the episode with Michael York. To paraphrase G'Kar, "No ancient enemies or prophecies! They were the bad guys, and we were the good guys!"
It's moments like this that elevate Babylon 5 to heights most sci-fi shows wish they could be.
RIP Andreas.
I miss this series and Andreas Katsulas. Such an underrated actor. Indeed all the great actors from this fantastic series who have sadly died.
''As a co-sponsor of Babylon 5, the Minbari government supports this decision.''
I love the way Sheridan turns his head to her in that moment, maybe in relief, but also to essentially say, ''Thanks, babe, I knew you'd have my back.'' They're not even a couple yet at this point in the series, but they still stand together on so many of their values.
the acting, the music score, the story, all of it, i have no other words to say but *thank you*
OMG the match to the current Ukraine war is so horribly striking…
No. What's happening in Ukraine is a civil war. At least it started as a civil war.
No, G'Kar and Londo- while surrogate brothers- are still two different species, nations- call it what you will. The East and West Ukrainians are supposed to be one nation- which they're not of course.
I love how Sheridan looks like he's about two seconds away from committing another diplomatic incident when Londo cuts him off.
It's amazing to think that in the multi-year arc of this show , Londo and G'Kar went from being total rivals to friends ...... possibly their last scene together with Londo saying the position of Emperor changes you ... and G'Kar saying even if his people can never forgive his people, that he can forgive Londo .... wow, this show was a roller-coaster of so many things... emotions, political understanding, being introduced to the idea of fake news propaganda, etc ... I feel this show opened my eyes to how things really work in the world of political power , media control and many other things
That's the second to last scene together, and the very last one completes the cycle of tragedy.
Probably why the show didn't gain traction. Because it want promoted by the powers that be
1:41 "You dare yell at me?" That look Sheridan gives Londo is amazing.
A speech that could not be more up to date. A shoutout to the brave Ukrainian people.
Oh Ukraine? You mean the same country whom the US media have conveniently forgot to inform you, or have flat out been hiding the fact that they have been putting the people of Donbas (DPR) Luhanske (LPR) and Crimea under seige since those regions declared independence in 2014? The ones that Ukraine agreed to and signed the Minsk accords to have talks to but never fulfuilled and instead shelled and even sniped at civilians because they were ethnic Russians in the east? That Ukraine? Crocodile tears I say.
@@Arthirias You conveniently forgot the whole military conflict started when Russia invaded Crimea, and not even "properly", but with unmarked military personnel, after which they started waging war through the separatists. People like you always conveniently forget to mention the attack against Ukraine continued after Crimea was invaded.
@@Cuthalu Read my reply again and you will see two things: Crimea, and the year 2014. Are you referring to events of just the last year?
@@Arthirias Donbas is a instigated uprising to give Russia buffer bitch state they are nothing without Russia and will be nothing without Russia there existed is a lie filled by cowards and oligarch money.
I came here for exactly that reason
With all the shit going down in Ukraine this clip came to mind. Immortal sentiments
And this is why Ukraine will be free
Yes, it will. But not in the way you think.
This show was awesome and still is. it touches on so MANY viable and serious topics. I love this show, and will miss Andreas Katsulas deeply. his roles on star trek were good but i remember him best and most lovingly as G'Kar. R.I.P.
Vladimir Putin needs to watch this.
No. The Blake Association. Especially Nudelman and Kolomojsky.
@@tatianalyulkin410 Yes they do.
This was and still is my absolute favorite sci-fi tv show of all time.
Some how that speech seems far more relevant to-day in 2022 than it was when it was written
It is and always will be relevant for as long as there are enemies of liberty.
What's so special about 2022?
@@tatianalyulkin410 Ukraine
Gives me chills every time I hear it. Great scene!!
Love that stare-down between Sheridan and Londo after Londo bellows '"NOW!"
G'Kar spoke many wise things in the course of B5's run. This may be one of the wisest.
G'Kar was the villain in the pilot episode, when he conspired to assassinate Kosh and frame Sinclair for it. (I don't know HOW Sinclair could NOT hold a grudge against him for that) G'Kar was also portrayed as the villain in the first episode, "Midnight on the Firing Line", when the Narns attacked Ragesh 3, the Centauri civilian agricultural colony.
It was later on in "By Any Means Necessary" that Londo started to become the "bad guy" and G'Kar became the victim.
Kosh's like: "whatever, fucks given - zero".
+Volthoom That tiny reaction from Kosh is a lot more then he usually does in council meetings... when he even bothers to show.
I think he actually cared.
+GhostInTheShell29 I agree, and I feel like the fact he even showed up shows he cared.
**edit also when Kosh helps G'Kar later on in the series(by talking to him in the dream or whatever) also shows that he cared what happened to the Narns.
Yea Kosh definitely cared what happened here, but he was still in non-inteference mode.
Kosh cared about G'Kar ... he visited him to teach him a transcendent lesson during the episode where G'Kar psy-rapes Londo.
The ambitious, devious, DANGEROUS Narn with their backs to the wall became noble and sympathetic. The has-been Centauri with wind in their sails became a threat to all.
There is a Spanish saying, nothing is the truth or a lie, everything is the color of the glass you look at it with.
The character and story arc development in B5. Is next level compared to anything else. Best thing to ever air on TV.
the only thing that came somewhat close was DS9
this is one of the best scenes in scifi, i have ever seen... but still, watching Londo, his is the best character arc in the show... :)
i get chills everytime i see this :)
This was one of the greatest space operas ever made stuff set up season one pays off in season six people talk like adults that are professionals in their fields. This is what right looks like Kurtman trek is dog shit on the sidewalk of sci fi
The evolution of G'kar & Londo throughout the series is one of J. Michael's greatest writing feats in creating Babylon 5, and the life given to the characters by Andreas & Peter made it truly memorable. For those who do not know this fact, J. Michael Straczynski had written the entire series before he ever pitched it to anyone, a rarity in television history that is emblematic of its unique place in the annals of sci-fi. It will never be equaled or replicated.
Russia learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again.
No. BlackRock, Nudelman and Lucifer own your souls. You're in no position to teach anything to anyone.
gkar was a hell of character played bye one hell of an actor.
Freedom for Ukraine from Vietnam!