Internet Vs Ocean: the essential wires we never think about

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  • @ardendarling5613
    @ardendarling5613 Рік тому +596

    I love the running gag about "the beginning of the internet", because it highlights how technologies build and improve on one another, and which should be counted as the true "beginning" of some modern technology is largely subjective, down to the personal views of the presenter and which technological features they consider to be important.

    • @Hellifyoudont66
      @Hellifyoudont66 Рік тому +50

      And it was the beginning of the Internet.

    • @0LoneTech
      @0LoneTech Рік тому +1

      So was, naturally, the automatic telephone switch, listed as invented around 1915 by Western Electric. The Wikipedia article on that company instead discusses how over 800 people died at a company picnic that year.

    • @Kinitawowi
      @Kinitawowi Рік тому +3

      the exact moment Walter White became the internet

    • @bepamungkas
      @bepamungkas Рік тому

      @@0LoneTech might be wrong attribution. First automated switch was Stowger switch, invented at 1891 by a stingy undertaker who was pissed about the quality of his telephone service that he created a device specifically to erase switchboard operator's job; out of spite. The story itself is as bizzare as it is funny:
      The local manager who managed Stowger's service explained the real reason why the service is so terrible: Because he put his old, rusty shop sign over his phone. The sign, which was made from tin plate, caused short circuit when the door to the room opened and the wind from the door's swing shifted its placement, touching both exposed cable. The phone would be dead until the door opened again and the wind blew the sign back to its place. But by the time he found the root cause of the problem by visiting the place, Stowger already had a drawing of a new kind of switchboard.
      Stowger promised the manager a share of his company if he help "redraw" the schematic for patent application, since apparently the drawing was "very crude". He sold his undertaker business to fund the patent application, rent an office space, and create a working prototype. When the manager later got invited to saw the prototype at work, he laugh at the shoddy soldering, which pissed Stowger even more. He reneged the deal and found Automatic Electric with other investor, which last for half a century until it was bought by GTE in 1955, which later became subsidiary of Verizon.
      Western Electric was instead credited for 1st electronic switchboard (1ESS) , and later 1st digital one (4ESS). At the time when Stowger switch already popular, WE produce automatic switch which use different mechanism (rotary instead of stepper). They later bought by AT&T.

    • @TheOne_6
      @TheOne_6 3 місяці тому +2

      it was the beginning of the internet

  • @ElysiumCreator
    @ElysiumCreator Рік тому +4449

    Honestly didn’t realise how much I loved Map Men, until the time between episodes seemed so long
    Edit: Hello Chris

    • @sil6506
      @sil6506 Рік тому +23

      Fr

    • @davidblade15
      @davidblade15 Рік тому +96

      Though recently we've had a veritable flood of videos. One a month for the past 3 months? Tremendous

    • @Wreckedbubble
      @Wreckedbubble Рік тому +54

      It was the beginning of the internet

    • @scotts918
      @scotts918 Рік тому +2

      Need more cables

    • @capbarker
      @capbarker Рік тому +1

      That's how they get you

  • @sssdddkkksss
    @sssdddkkksss 5 місяців тому +179

    8:43 I just noticed the gag where the random items you list that would be impossible to buy without the internet, ARE ALL ACTUALLY IN THE SHOP FRONT WINDOW. "Pink Suitcases, Teddy Bears, Funny Hats, and Basketballs"
    This is why this channel is so rewatchable and awesome.

  • @sudorandom
    @sudorandom Рік тому +7986

    Small correction. The “America to America” example cable mentioned at 7:34 doesn’t exist because it’s cheaper or faster to send data from Texas to Mississippi with an undersea cable. This cable is called the “Gulf of Mexico Fiber Optic Network” and it exists to provide internet to offshore drilling rigs along the path of the cable. Because of this, it’s probably one of the more interesting cables on the map!
    Sometimes it’s about the journey, not the destination.

    • @Redrally
      @Redrally Рік тому +225

      That is interesting!

    • @ohnesorgen4642
      @ohnesorgen4642 Рік тому +1165

      Neat. It was the beginning of the internet.

    • @x--.
      @x--. Рік тому +89

      Really?! How does that even work? Tapping a fiber line in the middle of the Gulf seems like it'd be incredibly challenging. I suppose if the platforms were expected to be stationary for 20 years and there were enough of them then yeah, it'd probably be cheaper. That's crazy.

    • @Nerd3927
      @Nerd3927 Рік тому +27

      Guess what it is used for?! Lots of Men going there own way so to say :-)

    • @f.eugenedunnamiii9452
      @f.eugenedunnamiii9452 Рік тому +48

      I just assumed that Louisiana was like "Nah".

  • @TheDarkfighter101
    @TheDarkfighter101 Рік тому +1635

    The way Jay controls the slight smirk on his face to straight deadpan after the globes fall is the mark of a professional comedian.

    • @moritz584
      @moritz584 Рік тому +410

      It was the beginning of the internet.

    • @MrDannyDetail
      @MrDannyDetail Рік тому +64

      I thought Mark's resigned face (even though I'm pretty sure he wanted to laugh as well), and then getting up was good too, whether it was genuine or playing along with the fact that Jay had just referenced them putting the globes back up so he thought someone better get up at that point.

    • @leonerduk
      @leonerduk Рік тому +43

      I've rewatched this a number of times and I still don't know if that was pre-planned or purely an accident. Either way, his reaction to it is top-notch.

    • @Etienne.6329
      @Etienne.6329 Рік тому +75

      I replayed it 4 times to see that a) no it wasn't scripted b) Jay's ability to seamlessly address it is phenomenal c) the dead pan and self control of Mark is absolutely perfect.
      that's absolute comedy gold.

    • @User31129
      @User31129 Рік тому +17

      ​@@Etienne.6329While it would be possible to very lightly tape it, then do several takes until it actually falls, their reaction tells me it wasn't scripted. Which makes the moment all the better. That he absolutely seamlessly went off script to address the matter.

  • @PanekPL
    @PanekPL Рік тому +2582

    When describing the distance between the UK and the USA and how long the first transatlantic telegraph cable needed to be, at 3:33 Jay says the word "very" 8 times (the subtitles say it 10 times). Then, at 3:46, Cyrus figured out that he needs to repeat the word "very" 7 times (the subs again say something different, this time going for 9). Afterwards it's back to Jay, who says "very" 9 times (the subtitles go for 12 for some reason).
    According to Wikipedia, the length of the cable was 2,500 nautical miles.
    Therefore, one "very" in the Map Men universe equals between 277.77 nautical miles (319.65 regular ol' miles) and 357.14 nautical miles (410.98 miles).

    • @JayForeman
      @JayForeman  Рік тому +1385

      I strongly approve of this comment.

    • @PanekPL
      @PanekPL Рік тому +140

      @@JayForeman Thank you very much, Jay! :) I did all the calculations myself.

    • @willingshelf
      @willingshelf Рік тому +46

      Now we need someone to do a second ‘Jay says very very very very very very very very very for 10 hours’, like that one with Chile

    • @adrianmalmstrom6968
      @adrianmalmstrom6968 Рік тому +5

      Please, matey. Do you got a diagnosis or what?

    • @PanekPL
      @PanekPL Рік тому +21

      @@adrianmalmstrom6968 erm... what?

  • @shokmunky
    @shokmunky Рік тому +3185

    as a radio host who struggles to fight through a monologue when something funny happens, I have the deepest respect for you both managing to hold your composure when the globes fell 😂

    • @JackpodyDK
      @JackpodyDK Рік тому +213

      i totally did too and it was the beginning of the internet

    • @ingvarhallstrom2306
      @ingvarhallstrom2306 Рік тому +74

      It was scripted before the beginning of the internet.

    • @Jason_Bryant
      @Jason_Bryant Рік тому +102

      I choose to believe that they did not plan that and left it in because their reaction was funny.

    • @pianofortepianoforte
      @pianofortepianoforte Рік тому +29

      I genuinely thought it was scripted

    • @NicolaW72
      @NicolaW72 Рік тому +1

      @@JackpodyDK 😂😂😂

  • @stuartrockin
    @stuartrockin Рік тому +1835

    Can't believe Samuel Morse named himself after the Morse code and took all the credit. Surprised there's been no backlash against Dave Internet yet.

    • @zoid9969
      @zoid9969 Рік тому +78

      I wonder whether the telegraph was actually named after someone called Terry Graf.

    • @sirBrouwer
      @sirBrouwer Рік тому +28

      @@zoid9969 No it was named by little Suzan.She named it after her donkey. Tely Gray

    • @stratonikisporcia8630
      @stratonikisporcia8630 Рік тому +53

      It was the beginning of the Internet

    • @Justagamerhere1
      @Justagamerhere1 Рік тому +8

      AlGorternet

    • @egpx
      @egpx Рік тому +5

      Wasn't his original choice of first name 'Inspector' before he changed it to Samuel?

  • @market_car
    @market_car 7 місяців тому +112

    I absolutely love the bit at 1:36 with the olden version of Google Maps. This kind of unnecessary and funny attention to detail is exactly why everyone loves to watch this channel. Thanks Jay!

    • @Af5j
      @Af5j 3 місяці тому

      and napoleon’s using it lol

  • @CinemaDemocratica
    @CinemaDemocratica Рік тому +2879

    If I could do what Jay does when those globes fall off the wall, my entire life would have played out differently.

    • @saez657
      @saez657 Рік тому +423

      It would indeed be the beginning of the internet.

    • @jadeforeman131
      @jadeforeman131 Рік тому +157

      We’ve got clips of Jay being quite injured and still delivering the line perfectly.

    • @tom.parryjones
      @tom.parryjones Рік тому +38

      @@jadeforeman131I want to see these clips

    • @fsodn
      @fsodn Рік тому +50

      Wait--so the globes falling off the wall wasn't planned? WOOOOOOOOW.

    • @hamza-chaudhry
      @hamza-chaudhry Рік тому +3

      ​@@jadeforeman131What are you to him?

  • @mhardisty
    @mhardisty Рік тому +336

    In the mid/late 90's, we needed to send a build of a game across from the UK to the publisher in New York. This involved me burning it on disks, getting on a plane, flying to New York, getting a (nice) stretch Limo to the Publishers offices, and handing over the disks to their QA (testers) team.....
    This was an enjoyable experience that now can be done in about 2 minutes via the power of the internet.
    This was the beginning of the internet!!!

    • @paolagrando5079
      @paolagrando5079 Рік тому +10

      What game was that? If I may ask.

    • @variousthings6470
      @variousthings6470 Рік тому +32

      It was the middle of the sneakernet.

    • @mhardisty
      @mhardisty Рік тому

      @@paolagrando5079 a 3D RTS game called “Machines”. Delivered to Acclaim.

    • @f.eugenedunnamiii9452
      @f.eugenedunnamiii9452 Рік тому +1

      AIT via Delta Dash. I only had to go as far as the airport.

    • @moosemaimer
      @moosemaimer Рік тому +21

      @@variousthings6470 Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of backup tapes hurtling down the freeway.

  • @FedeGuiance
    @FedeGuiance Рік тому +220

    Love these videos. Binged all of "Unfinished London" before my first ever trip to the capital a few weeks ago. Second day there, walking to Piccadilly via Regent Street, and I see the man himself in his impecable suit rushing towards Soho. It made my trip even if I could not stop you for a photo, Jay!

    • @JayForeman
      @JayForeman  Рік тому +164

      Hello!!! Sorry I rushed past you. That was the day we filmed the sketch of me walking through Oxford Street doing Morse Code on the phone (hence the suit). And, a few minutes later, Mark at the cash machine. I was running because the sun was about to set!

    • @FedeGuiance
      @FedeGuiance Рік тому +49

      ​@@JayForeman That makes it even better. No need to apologise at all! Keep up with these videos, you two, you truly instruct others while never failing to get a laugh out of it.

    • @antimatterg
      @antimatterg Рік тому +5

      ​@@FedeGuiancehang on, if you saw him filming, does that mean there might be a chance you've made a cameo?

    • @FedeGuiance
      @FedeGuiance Рік тому +7

      @@antimatterg Oh no, no chance sadly! I checked already. I saw him on his way to filming, not during filming :)

    • @antimatterg
      @antimatterg Рік тому +3

      @@FedeGuiance ohhhhhhh

  • @SivleFred
    @SivleFred Рік тому +1117

    0:41 That slight quiver makes me think the globes falling was not scripted.

    • @jakesteampson7043
      @jakesteampson7043 Рік тому +87

      I really hope it wasn't

    • @JayForeman
      @JayForeman  Рік тому +1182

      It was, indeed, NOT scripted! :)

    • @HenryLeslieGraham
      @HenryLeslieGraham Рік тому +163

      thats what a very very very good script writer would say... @@JayForeman

    • @leeboy26
      @leeboy26 Рік тому +9

      Now their balls have dropped they can truly be called Map Men, not Map Boys.

    • @Snail_With_a_Shotgun
      @Snail_With_a_Shotgun Рік тому +109

      @@JayForeman Cool guys don't look at globes falling off a wall.

  • @supremesantos
    @supremesantos Рік тому +623

    8:44 I appreciate that the list of 'pink suit cases, teddy bears, funny hats or basket balls' are all things in the shop window behind him

    • @JayForeman
      @JayForeman  Рік тому +199

      Finally, somebody noticed! :)

    • @poribrutal
      @poribrutal Рік тому +3

      amazing

    • @fsodn
      @fsodn 8 місяців тому +2

      @@JayForeman I couldn't tell all of the items, but the pink suitcases were definitely in view.

    • @Hand-in-Shot_Productions
      @Hand-in-Shot_Productions 7 місяців тому +7

      I thought the list was random, but now, I know why!
      Thanks for the comment!

  • @katieorsomething115
    @katieorsomething115 Рік тому +674

    i love how all of your videos feel like they were made 6 years ago. they're great

    • @JayForeman
      @JayForeman  Рік тому +479

      I always find comments like this baffling. Partly because six years ago is, like, five minutes ago! What has changed in six years? And partly because my videos are supposed to look like they’re from about 1998.

    • @katieorsomething115
      @katieorsomething115 Рік тому +60

      @@JayForeman i meant that as they feel old, since i wasn't alive 1998 i wouldn't know whether or not they feel like that, all of your videos feel like they were made around the same time.

    • @JayForeman
      @JayForeman  Рік тому +241

      I must be so old. I find it so hard to get my head around the idea of “six years ago” being a long time ago.

    • @eddyp483
      @eddyp483 Рік тому +13

      Oddly specific

    • @squarewheelsorguk
      @squarewheelsorguk Рік тому

      @JayForeman Hard agree. "Six years ago" was the pre-Br*xit panic just before the p*ndemic began.

  • @Mike-kc5ew
    @Mike-kc5ew Рік тому +948

    As someone who works in IT, I can say that this was actually very well researched and communicated, with a great critical thinking message of what those who "provide us the internet" may be asking for in return. Plus, all the visual gags were the best! Map Men is seriously one of the best UA-cam series out there!

    • @TweenkPL
      @TweenkPL Рік тому +9

      If you work in IT, why don't you know that eavesdropping in these cables is not possible because all of the data is encrypted?

    • @JohnSmithShields
      @JohnSmithShields Рік тому +30

      It was the beginning of the internet

    • @OLBastholm
      @OLBastholm Рік тому +35

      ​@@TweenkPL If the GCHQ and NSA thought it was worth doing, I'm sure "not possible" is a slight exaggeration. Encryption can and will be broken. It's just a matter of effort, money and time.

    • @crytocc
      @crytocc Рік тому +30

      @@TweenkPL That's unfortunately not the case. Neither TLS nor S-BGP are universally deployed. Sure, a decent chunk of traffic is encrypted, but definitely not all of it (plus that still won't necessarily prevent snooping on where the traffic goes to and from).

    • @Virusnzz
      @Virusnzz Рік тому +1

      @@OLBastholm okay but if you believe that, but why be worried about Google snooping via the cable? Sure there are other organisations to be more worried about, not to mention many points between your computer and the cable, any of which may be used to gather your data.

  • @LegendaryHewy
    @LegendaryHewy Рік тому +1861

    Tell me the globes falling wasn't a planned bit. If it isn't, Jay's ability to effortlessly work it into the take as if it was part of the video is commendable.

    • @woodfur00
      @woodfur00 Рік тому +184

      Not to mention knowing exactly what had fallen without looking

    • @TypicallyThomas
      @TypicallyThomas Рік тому +227

      ​@@woodfur00They probably had a monitor facing them so they could see themselves from the camera's perspective and see what had happened behind them. Amazing safe from Jay

    • @NoobixCube
      @NoobixCube Рік тому +142

      @@woodfur00 I bet those globes regularly fall down.

    • @MrDannyDetail
      @MrDannyDetail Рік тому +61

      @@woodfur00 They did make a noise when they hit the floor, and not much else on that wall would do.

    • @sunnysuryani5674
      @sunnysuryani5674 Рік тому +67

      It looked like it was held on with blue tack or something similar and I'm sure one of them would've asked when setting it up "do you think this will hold"

  • @randomuploadsism
    @randomuploadsism Рік тому +75

    This is one of the best UA-cam channels out there. Even at 1.4M subs I'd still say it is very underrated. The content is fascinating, concise and funny. The bit about "I need to get those globes up that fell off the wall "without even blinking, is a testimony to your skills as performers. So glad I found this channel.

  • @herbivorethecarnivore8447
    @herbivorethecarnivore8447 Рік тому +1221

    I do miss the funny variations on the map men theme, I don't know why they don't do them anymore.
    It was the beginning of the internet.

    • @therwfer
      @therwfer Рік тому +315

      they ran out of variations. It was the beginning of the end of the internet.

    • @kdpak
      @kdpak Рік тому +33

      ✨Internet✨

    • @YetAnotherGeorgeth
      @YetAnotherGeorgeth Рік тому +64

      Maybe it was a variation but changed so slightly you didn’t even notice. It was the beginning of the internet.

    • @JayForeman
      @JayForeman  Рік тому +995

      They’re coming back, don’t worry. Just keeping yous on your toes. It was the beginning of the internet.

    • @genericmeme
      @genericmeme Рік тому +49

      Please reference the second sentence in this comment in some future video. It was the beginning of the internet.

  • @patrickkirby6580
    @patrickkirby6580 Рік тому +530

    This is the only show where I sit down to watch everything, the intro the ad break the episode itself and the credits. I even watch everything multiple times.
    Only Jay and Mark could make something this entertaining.

    • @moritz584
      @moritz584 Рік тому +31

      It was the beginning of the internet.

    • @chrism3784
      @chrism3784 Рік тому +6

      Ryan George with his Adstranaut is pretty entertaining to.

    • @k.c1126
      @k.c1126 Рік тому +1

      Came for the show, stayed for the commercials... 😂

    • @markchapman6800
      @markchapman6800 Рік тому +1

      I watched this the first time while eating breakfast, then went back to catch all the bits that I'd been unable to pause in time, such as the treasure trove of jokes at 1:37

    • @SeanFKennedy
      @SeanFKennedy Рік тому +1

      Tom Ska also keeps me there for the ad read.

  • @joker6solitaire
    @joker6solitaire 9 місяців тому +10

    This video felt like a long-lost Monty Python sketch. Thank you for reminding me of the happy childhood hours I whiled away watching Monty Python video tapes from my local library. You have no idea how much I needed cheering up tonight. I appreciate you, Map Men.

  • @rowanmichaels
    @rowanmichaels Рік тому +9679

    A "human garden hose" implies Jay is aware of garden hoses made by other species.

    • @ytterbius2900
      @ytterbius2900 Рік тому +930

      I love when they put the adjective "human" in silly places. "Human" dollars, Jay? DO YOU HAVE ALIEN DOLLARS, JAY?

    • @gamefoun
      @gamefoun Рік тому +45

      *of

    • @epiendless1128
      @epiendless1128 Рік тому +280

      Or hoses made from things other than humans.

    • @RoyMatzem
      @RoyMatzem Рік тому +73

      Also "Humans dollars" in the end

    • @LuisSierra42
      @LuisSierra42 Рік тому +32

      You know too much

  • @rodefshalom
    @rodefshalom Рік тому +3235

    The fact the entire internet has been through a layer of Vaseline actually explains quite a bit of the modern world.

    • @patrickkirby6580
      @patrickkirby6580 Рік тому +306

      It was the beginning of the internet

    • @TheXev
      @TheXev Рік тому

      It's the worst stuff to get off of your hands.. much worse then regular Vaseline. Until you know, you don't really know.

    • @TheOnlyCaprisun
      @TheOnlyCaprisun Рік тому +94

      And thus, upon the seventh day, it was completed. And it was the beginning of the internet.

    • @rogerroger5255
      @rogerroger5255 Рік тому +12

      It doesn't go through the vaseline. If it does, that is loss.

    • @alicorn3924
      @alicorn3924 Рік тому +32

      ​@@rogerroger5255 it's a joke

  • @AFallingFlamingo
    @AFallingFlamingo 8 місяців тому +22

    The writing for Map Men is *always* top notch.
    I don't think I've ever heard a more strange, yet so perfectly fitting, sign-off than "it's been through a layer of vaseline."

  • @adenrius
    @adenrius Рік тому +2791

    Was the falling globe thing improvised? Because it was perfect.

    • @markcooper-jones7494
      @markcooper-jones7494 Рік тому +1447

      No it's not! And it was entirely unscripted, thankfully Jay never stops talking

    • @KelsomaticPDX
      @KelsomaticPDX Рік тому +39

      @@riplumiare you just trolling? 💀

    • @BOABModels
      @BOABModels Рік тому +37

      ​@@markcooper-jones7494😂

    • @wilweswin
      @wilweswin Рік тому +7

      ​@@KelsomaticPDXare you? 🧐

    • @Zachyshows
      @Zachyshows Рік тому +37

      ​@markcooper-jones7494 WAIT ITS ACTUALLY YOU

  • @agwilt
    @agwilt Рік тому +302

    I've had an awful day today, and I'd just like to tell you that this really cheered me up :)

    • @JayForeman
      @JayForeman  Рік тому +167

      Glad to be of service!

    • @spacedwarfguy
      @spacedwarfguy Рік тому +44

      It was the beginning of the internet

    • @XclusiveAaron
      @XclusiveAaron Рік тому +3

      Me too man, just read that comment and seen 8 hours ago. Just about to go to sleep after a shiyte day so me too made me chuckle and interesting too!

    • @oldmech619
      @oldmech619 Рік тому +4

      I feel much better about my cabling life now that I saw the back panel shot where all the cabling mess at 9:38

    • @シロダサンダー
      @シロダサンダー Рік тому +1

      ​@@JayForemantruly the service the internet was created for :)

  • @MrSplan
    @MrSplan Рік тому +34

    Hey guys, great video! As someone who works in this field monitoring subsea cables, you did a pretty good job! ( the shark biting cables is a bit of a myth though…) if you ever do a follow up and would like some comment from somebody who directly deals with cable systems every day, please feel free to reach out and I’ll tell you what I am allowed to :D

    • @ExestentialCrisis
      @ExestentialCrisis Рік тому +2

      😂😅 Haven't you seen JAWS? Clearly sharks have been eating cables since at least 1977.

    • @dijoxx
      @dijoxx Рік тому +2

      It has become less of a problem in later iterations as technology evolved but it definitely has been a thing.

    • @fsodn
      @fsodn 9 місяців тому +6

      Of course sharks don't bite cables. Didn't you see the footage? The shark was clearly eating the cable with a knife and fork.

  • @Tylru
    @Tylru Рік тому +142

    These are a work of art. The nostalgia I received from the cut to black before/after the advert alone just goes to show the level of attention to detail you put into every video. Such a small little detail from old British broadcasting rules but it fits perfectly.

    • @justindumlao
      @justindumlao Рік тому +29

      Don’t forget the little barber pole squiggly thing before the ad break! Check the top right corner!

    • @lordgemini2376
      @lordgemini2376 Рік тому

      I love it

    • @Karibanu
      @Karibanu Рік тому +7

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cue_mark - not sure if there's enough there for someone to make an episode, but as part of another one, perhaps. Ours are "cue dots", the BBC has ( had ) them too.

    • @trunkage
      @trunkage Рік тому +4

      It was the beginning of the Internet

  • @Jaxymann
    @Jaxymann Рік тому +1045

    Jay saying “It was the beginning of the Internet” every 2 minutes to describe things is like John Hammond saying “Spared no expense” in Jurassic Park.

    • @greensteve9307
      @greensteve9307 Рік тому +14

      I loved that, since it is such a hotly debated question as there are multiple definitions one can use!

    • @melanierae2815
      @melanierae2815 Рік тому +24

      This video was the beginning of the internet

    • @TypicallyThomas
      @TypicallyThomas Рік тому +8

      I read that as Richard Hammond for some reason

    • @13starof_17
      @13starof_17 Рік тому +3

      ​@@TypicallyThomassame, my brain lagged for some reason

    • @NIDELLANEUM
      @NIDELLANEUM Рік тому +3

      It took me a while to understand it was a running gag and he wasn't being serious

  • @jd00313
    @jd00313 Рік тому +4

    Hilarious video as always guys, learned a lot, keep up the great work

  • @liamdownes1475
    @liamdownes1475 Рік тому +1280

    Thanks Map Men,fibre optic engineer checking in :) If you’d like to see a map of your local network let me know, it’s not as boring as you might think!

    • @JayForeman
      @JayForeman  Рік тому +617

      I genuinely would actually!

    • @liamdownes1475
      @liamdownes1475 Рік тому +190

      Shouldn't be too difficult. I'll email you and we can sort something out @@JayForeman

    • @jimbob06
      @jimbob06 Рік тому

      @@liamdownes1475is there any way someone random like me could see my own of a website or something

    • @bapsmcginty4782
      @bapsmcginty4782 Рік тому

      @@liamdownes1475if you work for who I think you work for you will be breaching both commercial confidentiality and the official secrets act

    • @MasterCheeks-2552
      @MasterCheeks-2552 Рік тому +1

      @@liamdownes1475 it was the begining of the internet

  • @fabiolutzbr
    @fabiolutzbr Рік тому +270

    Honestly, I just hope companies are paying you a truck load of money for the ads, as you're the only channel that can manage to avoid me skipping them... 😊

    • @brendandax
      @brendandax Рік тому +3

      Same

    • @snowstrobe
      @snowstrobe Рік тому +2

      snap

    • @blindleader42
      @blindleader42 Рік тому +4

      I have at least two more channels that work for me. Julie Nolke and Ryan George. And they don't even sneak the ads into the middle of the sketches, but put them at the end.

    • @wintrparkgrl
      @wintrparkgrl Рік тому +2

      Hi there, hello

    • @botcontador3286
      @botcontador3286 Рік тому

      yep!!!

  • @Matthew54321
    @Matthew54321 Рік тому +10

    I saw you guys on page 3 of the Sunday Times dated 15 October 2023. Congrats 🎉

  • @jseeker1867
    @jseeker1867 Рік тому +543

    Once upon a time, the Phoenicians invented letters. It was the beginning of the internet.

    • @roystonlodge
      @roystonlodge Рік тому +87

      Once upon a time, Indian mathematicians invented the zero. It was the beginning of the Internet.

    • @mk_rexx
      @mk_rexx Рік тому +68

      Once upon a time, human ancestors developed what we know to day as spoken language. It was the beginning of the internet.

    • @roystonlodge
      @roystonlodge Рік тому +52

      @@mk_rexx Once upon a time, birds and mammals began to communicate simple messages to each other using clicks, chirps, and chitters. It was the beginning of the Internet.

    • @carltonleboss
      @carltonleboss Рік тому +52

      13.7 billion years ago, the Big Bang occurred, forming the Universe. This was the beginning of the Internet.

    • @roystonlodge
      @roystonlodge Рік тому +37

      @@carltonleboss Dude, you skipped right over the evolution of electro-chemical nervous systems! We had a nice progression going backwards through time, and you got greedy. Now my whole day is ruined!
      ;-)

  • @karenm2669
    @karenm2669 Рік тому +257

    Nobody has yet mentioned how very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very informative and how very, very, very, very, very, very, very entertaining this video was.

    • @Oscar-mi7yi
      @Oscar-mi7yi Рік тому +23

      It was the beginning of the internet.

    • @brokenstone1670
      @brokenstone1670 Рік тому +9

      Your comment is very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very accurate.

    • @YLCCOfficial
      @YLCCOfficial Рік тому +2

      It was the begi--- **gets shot**

  • @berniethekiwidragon4382
    @berniethekiwidragon4382 6 місяців тому +4

    I appreciate their sense of humour in their videos, even the ads.
    Clearly very Monty Python-inspired.

  • @roderickmain9697
    @roderickmain9697 Рік тому +411

    Many moons ago (early 1980's) networking wasn't big, even for the computer company I worked for. We did finally get a link between the factory where I worked and the HQ about 45 miles away. (way before fibre optics - probably norrmal phone lines). However, when it came to sending a software update from one system to another, the calculated transfer time was6 or 7 hours. It was actually faster to dump it onto a few reels of magnetic tape and hire a courier to take it by motorbike (about 90 mins). As somebody observed, if there was other data to be sent, we just dumped onto an additional tape and for minimal extra cost, sent that at the same time. Slower byte transfer speed, but inifinite bandwith.

    • @nowster
      @nowster Рік тому +89

      Never underestimate the bandwidth of a 747 full of [current storage technology].
      For many years the Jodrell Bank radio telescope's main data link to the university was a van loaded with magnetic tapes.

    • @paulhaynes8045
      @paulhaynes8045 Рік тому +16

      Remember it well. Old IT fogeys of the pre-internet days unite!

    • @Ushio01
      @Ushio01 Рік тому +18

      @@nowster It used to be never underestimate the bandwidth of a car trunk filled with DLT (Digital Linear Tape) when each smaller than a VHS tape sized cartridge could hold 10 GB's.
      Though it was a saying used more when needing to transfer data between offices in different states.

    • @KarolOfGutovo
      @KarolOfGutovo Рік тому +23

      @@nowster A train full of [current storage technology] can have even more bandwidth. A 747 can only do ~130 tonnes at 1000km/h, with more accurate numbers coming out to 126958 kmT/h, and a train pulled by a Big Boy steam locomotive can do around 7200 tonnes at around 130 km/h, coming out to 936000 kmT/h - almost 10 times as much bandwidth as a 747, although yeah, it is THE biggest locomotive and this does assume its top speed. A more realistic number would be something around 2x the kmT/h (kilometer Tons per hour) a 747 can do easily.

    • @joelambert7128
      @joelambert7128 Рік тому +6

      This is still occasionally done when the data being moved is considered to be very sensitive for whatever reason, although obviously it would be on a hard drive rather than tapes.

  • @HeisenbergFam
    @HeisenbergFam Рік тому +186

    From 7 months of no uploads to 3 uploads in 2 months is an upload schedule improvement I support

    • @Tom3kkk
      @Tom3kkk Рік тому +18

      its thanks to the internet

    • @Idk-ys7rt
      @Idk-ys7rt Рік тому +3

      I agree! Map Men is great!!!

    • @Infernalisk
      @Infernalisk Рік тому +3

      how are you here.

    • @AmberMetallicScorpion
      @AmberMetallicScorpion Рік тому +12

      @@Tom3kkk it was the start of the internet

    • @sebastianbjorkman4273
      @sebastianbjorkman4273 Рік тому +39

      pretty sure they film these videos in bulk. maybe they met up for the first time in a year to film like 10 episodes and then thats it until they both find time in their assumably busy time schedule to meet up and film some more

  • @dogcowdogcow
    @dogcowdogcow Рік тому +8

    In the US, overland maps of internet connectivity look similar to railroad line maps; it was way easier to get right-of-way along existing infrastructure (ie trains) than to just plow through and go directly point to point

  • @GuyPerson-jt9tv
    @GuyPerson-jt9tv Рік тому +53

    I love that you guys call yourself the map men because when I was young, my brother and I came up with a super hero called map man who would just point people in the right direction at national parks.

    • @CinemaDemocratica
      @CinemaDemocratica Рік тому

      You should have been in on that sketch from Key and Peale where one superhero is a BMX trick-rider and the other one can summon a hoard of Angels whenever he wants.

    • @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
      @vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 Рік тому

      I actually kind of like that idea. Would be a fun addition to park signage.

  • @ytterbius2900
    @ytterbius2900 Рік тому +77

    1:37 The attention to detail and bonus elements like these are what keep me coming back to Map Men. I can't get enough of you guys!

    • @zoid9969
      @zoid9969 Рік тому +4

      The black and white image that signifies an imminent commercial break at the top-right from 05:24 is just like watching ITV!

    • @Tylru
      @Tylru Рік тому +7

      ​@@zoid9969 And the regulation to cut to black before/after a commercial as well. Such an instant nostalgia hit :D

    • @lunlunnnnn
      @lunlunnnnn Рік тому +9

      It was the beginning of the internet

  •  10 місяців тому +1

    Danke!

  • @Sideshowleon
    @Sideshowleon Рік тому +26

    8:45 The things listed are all in the shop window

  • @joedellinger9437
    @joedellinger9437 Рік тому +98

    7:33 The one that arcs out into the Gulf of Mexico provides connectivity to deep water offshore oil platforms along the Sigsbee escarpment… it was put in place to provide uninterrupted connectivity and control to the platform systems from shore even during major hurricanes, when the entire crew may have evacuated ahead of the storm. It also allows weather data, etc, to be streamed back from far offshore in real time.

  • @davidmonroe6051
    @davidmonroe6051 7 місяців тому +1

    I, as part of my degree program, did a research paper on the lines, the vehicles laying the cables, the companies that were the access points, and the efforts to expand more cables to compete with the growing needs. This was 15 years ago, but, it was very interesting to meet the people behind the work.

  • @bowietwombly5951
    @bowietwombly5951 Рік тому +69

    I had to pause this video at least 4 separate times because I was laughing too hard at a joke to pay attention to what else was being said, but I didn’t want to miss anything because it was so interesting. Highest marks 👏

    • @justindumlao
      @justindumlao Рік тому +3

      It is nigh impossible to get through the first watch of a Map Men episode without stopping for this exact reason

  • @TheShamansQuestion
    @TheShamansQuestion Рік тому +284

    One of the most endearing and wholesome lessons about this whole series/channel is how clumsy humam development has been. It's easy to take history for granted as monolithic and inerrant but it's not. If anything, it's monolithic in its disarray.

    • @TheShamansQuestion
      @TheShamansQuestion Рік тому +12

      Rather apt I have that typo haha

    • @pavelow235
      @pavelow235 Рік тому

      How can history be wrong? Isn't "history" merely a collection of past facts.

    • @Zraknul
      @Zraknul Рік тому +7

      Nice work humam.

    • @Zraknul
      @Zraknul Рік тому +6

      @@pavelow235 History is not merely a collection of past facts.

    • @pavelow235
      @pavelow235 Рік тому

      @@Zraknul That makes me sad if that is not the core definition of history. It seems to imply history is fluid and without facts. A rock is a rock. A bone is a bone, a town existed during this timeframe....etc. etc. etc. Will always be that way. A good historian evaluates the facts as best can be determined, and then puts forth a plausible theory of what that history was like in the subject studied. President JFK died on November 22, 1963. Maybe a future historian might advocate that JFK died on December 22, 1961. But that wouldn't be history, would it? History is being undermined by various contemporary "historians" and my comment was more directed at the cryptic OP response. In which I think the OP was confusing innovation advancement with the word "history".

  • @Vladekk
    @Vladekk Рік тому

    Video was worth watching even just for the humour and great visuals. Go map men!

  • @davegreenlaw5654
    @davegreenlaw5654 Рік тому +26

    @7:47 - LOVE how you have James Cordon going from the UK to America and then back to the UK.

    • @GnomaPhobic
      @GnomaPhobic 8 місяців тому +3

      We had ordered a British comedian, but he wasn't funny so we sent him back to the manufacturer as a defect.

    • @AH-be6bu
      @AH-be6bu 2 місяці тому +1

      Sorry, no refunds!

  • @marcosfidelis4171
    @marcosfidelis4171 Рік тому +113

    As a person studying network engineering this is a satisfying video to watch.

    • @LuisSierra42
      @LuisSierra42 Рік тому +18

      It was the beginning of the internet

  • @jsloanhpi
    @jsloanhpi Рік тому +5

    What a brilliant idea for an episode, so glad you guys are back and challenging how we look at things. The ‘why is North Up’ really blew my mind.

  • @gglasser8375
    @gglasser8375 Рік тому +204

    You guys are the only creators out there that make watching the sponsor segment worth while.

    • @vjollila96
      @vjollila96 Рік тому +8

      internet historian has some good ad reads

    • @The_Jovian
      @The_Jovian Рік тому +2

      I also like Ginny Di for that

    • @campfireeverything
      @campfireeverything Рік тому +3

      It's a good sentiment for sure although Internet Comment Etiquette is firmly in this category as well.

    • @TheBritFromOz008
      @TheBritFromOz008 Рік тому

      Well, maybe Tomska…

    • @LARAUJO_0
      @LARAUJO_0 Рік тому +3

      There are quite a few channels with interesting sponsor reels. Arlo for example has a whole series of Raycon ad skits with a plotline

  • @MrBigHunt
    @MrBigHunt Рік тому +26

    I work for the company that designed the first Subsea cable plough to bury internet cable, I find this industry so interesting, really happy to see it on map men!

    • @OLBastholm
      @OLBastholm Рік тому +4

      It was the beginning of the internet.

    • @letsgococo288
      @letsgococo288 Рік тому

      Why are there so many bots on this channel?

    • @MrBigHunt
      @MrBigHunt Рік тому

      @@letsgococo288 I… don’t know?

  • @drewsmith2325
    @drewsmith2325 5 місяців тому +1

    Your ability to maintain the exact same composure and improvise when the globes fell off the wall just shows why i personally consider you a comedic genius

  • @tfy7026
    @tfy7026 Рік тому +109

    I always watch Jay's ad reads. He puts more effort into them than anyone else, and they are actually funny.

    • @jahazbrooga309
      @jahazbrooga309 Рік тому +10

      And he puts the little black and white thingy in the top right corner just like the olden days.

    • @ghaznavid
      @ghaznavid Рік тому +1

      Between him and the "ad-stronaught out here in ad-space"

  • @JoshGibson-f8r
    @JoshGibson-f8r Рік тому +23

    I work for the engineering company responsible for the machinery which has installed roughly 90% of these cables and this was incredibly insightful to me. Thanks for making.

  • @guitarfreakizoid
    @guitarfreakizoid Рік тому +2

    This is my first time discovering this channel, and wow, what a rollercoaster this video was.
    Am I learning, am I laughing, or am I questioning mine and the Map Men's sanity? The answer is yes.

  • @ArtemyMusha
    @ArtemyMusha Рік тому +26

    "...which by the way, would be an awesome clue in an escape room..."
    Funny thing is, that telegraph machine does show up as a puzzle in the point-and-click adventure game "The Room 3", so that's certainly a start.

    • @Ilyena
      @Ilyena Рік тому

      It shows up in the Room 3? I don't remember that part...

    • @ArtemyMusha
      @ArtemyMusha 11 місяців тому

      ​​@@IlyenaIt appears at the start of the tower segment of the game, where starting up a mechanism requires using it to input the name of the tower.

  • @vladfromfrance
    @vladfromfrance Рік тому +19

    Let it be known that I, a Frenchman living in Paris, watched this video full screen in 1080p, thoroughly enjoying every last iteration of the beginning for the internet.

  • @joshuaharris.iesarsta
    @joshuaharris.iesarsta Рік тому +3

    I watched this video with my class this afternoon as they have been learning about how the internet works. Very informative and entertaining! Warm wishes from Sweden :)

  • @Blackadder75
    @Blackadder75 Рік тому +37

    the brilliant writer Terry Pratchett wrote a book on the pre-pre-pre-pre internet, calling it The Clacks. it's one of his best books about Discworld

    • @CiaraOSullivan1990
      @CiaraOSullivan1990 Рік тому +7

      Going Postal, brilliant book.

    • @justcomments
      @justcomments Рік тому +3

      Ah yes, that was ‘Going Postal’ - one of my favourites!

    • @DasParedes
      @DasParedes Рік тому +1

      I never read anything about that ..... oh, it's 15 more books down the line, nevermind

    • @kellydalstok8900
      @kellydalstok8900 Рік тому +7

      I’m currently reading Going Postal, but the Clacks are first introduced in The Fifth Elephant.

    • @OutbackCatgirl
      @OutbackCatgirl Рік тому +6

      @@DasParedes you do not have to read the discworld books in order - going postal is as close to standalone as you can get, and it's one of the best starter books for getting hooked into the worldbuilding of the series. You won't be missing out by reading it first, I promise.

  • @kevinboggan
    @kevinboggan Рік тому +37

    This is absolutely fascinating. I can't believe that I'd never even considered the sheer volume of cables needed to make the internet a thing. Bravo, as always

    • @dijoxx
      @dijoxx Рік тому

      Some of them are not even for the internet but carry internal traffic between data centers!

  • @Deadnerd123
    @Deadnerd123 Рік тому +4

    The perfect improvisation with the globes falling, on its own is worth a like on this video 😂😂 you guys are entertaining and so talented to say the least

  • @CaptainFirebolt
    @CaptainFirebolt Рік тому +60

    I love the part where Jay said: "It was the beginning of the Internet." 😃

    • @OLBastholm
      @OLBastholm Рік тому +2

      I must have missed that. Do you have a time stamp?

    • @Mimi.1001
      @Mimi.1001 Рік тому +7

      @@OLBastholm I think that would be around the beginning of the Internet.

    • @Makrelacz
      @Makrelacz Рік тому

      So you love the whole vid.

  • @TSANOOvlogs
    @TSANOOvlogs Рік тому +30

    I imagine your videos being played in high school classes all over the UK and being thoroughly enjoyed. It just has that vibe somehow. As a teacher myself I am always impressed by informative, well-but-fast-paced, witty content!

  • @IvarWALL
    @IvarWALL Рік тому +5

    Even though we only get these videos every once in a blue moon they never fail to entertain!

    • @martavdz4972
      @martavdz4972 Рік тому

      Absolutely, they're the epitome of "quality over quantity" 🙂

  • @Theodore764
    @Theodore764 Рік тому +17

    For those curious the Morse code at 2:48 says VRI- -bk adec. The - is for a letter that doesn’t exist.

  • @jdjphotographynl
    @jdjphotographynl Рік тому +41

    Map Men, one of the few shows where I don't absolutely despise the sponsored section in the middle. 😊

  • @MissPickles1980
    @MissPickles1980 Рік тому +5

    I'd like to add that, although I knew theoretically what the Clacks system was based on, I'd never seen it demonstrated before. Thank you!

  • @dado__
    @dado__ Рік тому +121

    The Chappe telegraph system did indeed have issues, as it featured one of the first instances of network manipulation. François and Louis Blanc, bond traders in Bordeaux, had a friend in Paris send a package to Tours indicating the Paris stock trends, which a bribed operator then added to messages passing though with a "wait sorry, erase that character" right after. At Bordeaux the brothers had a former telegraph operator spy on the tower to see the single character, but in official transcriptions the "backspace" meant that the alleged error would never be logged. This allowed the Blanc brothers to know how the Paris stocks would affect their bonds in Bordeaux far in advance of anyone else in the city. This worked until the operator at Tours got ill and tried to recruit a friend to replace him, who reported it. But they couldn't convinct the brothers, because there weren't any laws against what they were doing!

    • @TypicallyThomas
      @TypicallyThomas Рік тому +22

      I see you're a Tom Scott fan as well

    • @dado__
      @dado__ Рік тому +19

      @@TypicallyThomas Honestly I had this foggy memory that I knew some sort of scam and looked up the details for the comment, but now I know where I first heard about it!

    • @sarahprunierlaw9147
      @sarahprunierlaw9147 Рік тому +7

      @@TypicallyThomas Another excellent creator!

  • @Fisz777
    @Fisz777 Рік тому +19

    I very rarely laugh at loud while watching youtube, but this channel manages that a couple of times an episode. I love you guys.

  • @agrownupkid
    @agrownupkid Рік тому +4

    "171777" 😄 Also I loved the clever (cheeky) description of things you wouldn't be able to buy if Atlantic undersea cables went down. Love the content you guys put out.

  • @sambowman91
    @sambowman91 Рік тому +9

    I'll have you know, Map Men is one of the only channels I actually *watch* because your visual gags are lots of work and excellent.

  • @datadrivendave
    @datadrivendave Рік тому +15

    Learning that Mr Morse was named after the code makes so much sense! I don't know why I didn't realize that before this video.

  • @sullychow4123
    @sullychow4123 Рік тому +3

    I didnt know there were so many beginnings of the internet, truly marvellous

  • @pfefferle74
    @pfefferle74 Рік тому +96

    Fun fact: the fourth attempts' cable actually couldn't be connected because the twist direction of the copper wires didn't match. Apparently noone had thought about the fact that one of the ships needed to start out with a differently twisted cable (i.e. just coiled up in different direction) for it to match in the middle. It was an absolute rookie mistake.

    • @ytterbius2900
      @ytterbius2900 Рік тому +35

      You can't blame them
      The cable was very very very very very very very long :(

    • @Ilyena
      @Ilyena Рік тому +32

      I think I would like to see the reactions on the ships and on land when they realised the mistake.

    • @rickpgriffin
      @rickpgriffin Рік тому +9

      This is why you test a model first!

    • @LadyInTrilby
      @LadyInTrilby Рік тому +3

      That's my all time favourite fact about the history of information technology, the massive skipping rope it created at the bottom of the ocean. It must have confused the heck out of some sharks and jellyfishes. I learnt if from a university lecturer who brought a piece of the very first transatlantic cable for us to see. It looked like... well, a piece of an old, thick cable. But it was still pretty cool.

    • @Hippocrass
      @Hippocrass Рік тому +1

      It was the beginning of the Internet!

  • @playgroundchooser
    @playgroundchooser Рік тому +13

    The globes falling and them just charging ahead was a whole thing. Damn I loves me some Map Men. Men. Men...

  • @AshtonAU
    @AshtonAU Рік тому

    Your content is the most English thing ever and being English myself, I have absolutely no bias when I say, this video proves that Map Men is the greatest channel in the world, and that England is the bestest, smartest, and biggerest Continent in the world. Thanks to the internet, I learnt all that from Map Men.
    Love your videos.

  • @nootacat
    @nootacat Рік тому +7

    8:42 I love how the items he lists are the ones you can see in the shop window in the background

  • @mms-sj8pu
    @mms-sj8pu Рік тому +62

    The good part is that we actually learn new things. When I get home I will use electrolysis to convert amps to volts.

    • @jamesmatthews291
      @jamesmatthews291 Рік тому +9

      Make sure you allow the bad Internet to escape as steam though - you wouldn't want that building up, let me tell you

    • @lunlunnnnn
      @lunlunnnnn Рік тому +12

      It was the beginning of the internet

    • @sweh
      @sweh Рік тому

      @@jamesmatthews291That's what the bitbucket is for.

  • @cozmoroller
    @cozmoroller 5 місяців тому +1

    honestly one of the best series on youtube

  • @CoreyKearney
    @CoreyKearney Рік тому +14

    lol I love how you just kept rolling when the globe lights fell off the wall.

  • @neiloflongbeck5705
    @neiloflongbeck5705 Рік тому +53

    Morse's code only covered numerals and not letters or other characters. Morse expected users to look up the words by looking up their reference numbers. Alfred Vail is the one responsible for the letters and punctuation marks.

    • @AndyZach
      @AndyZach Рік тому +3

      There's a fact I didn't know!

    • @sandy_knight
      @sandy_knight Рік тому +6

      I'm just rewatching an episode of QI where they cover this and strictly speaking its not even a 'code', it should be called Vail's 'Cypher' as the dots and dashes represent letters directly without having to convert numbers into letters/words as you did with Morse's code.

    • @guaposneeze
      @guaposneeze Рік тому

      Also, no mention of Baudot when throwing around "the beginning of the Internet?" I humbly suggest we immediately riot. Baudot telegraphs used what we'd now call binary signaling. The alternative to Morse code became ITA, which led very directly to ASCII which is a version of ITA. Baudot telegraph systems were used for things like old automatic paper stock tickers, and eventually teletypes. Teletypes in WWII allowed, basically, IRC text chat without computers. When interactive electronic digital computers were eventually invented, those WWII style teletypes using baudot style serialized telegraph codes were used as terminals in the era before CRT monitors were used in computer terminals, and were then eventually used for actual IRC text chat with computers.
      You can literally wire a late 1800's Baudot telegraph machine to a modern Linux computer with a serial port and some passives for character set and voltage handling, and use stty to use the (still supported!) upper case only terminal mode (which still exists because WWII era baudot style teletypes didn't support lower case letters) and chat using a text mode Slack or Discord client.
      But apparently that doesn't get a mention as one of the beginnings of the Internet because it's not good enough for Jay or something. I resubmit the humble request that we violently riot and destroy as much as we are reasonably able.

    • @0LoneTech
      @0LoneTech Рік тому +1

      ​@@sandy_knightThat must be strictly according to some specifically selected definitions of both words code and cipher, then. After all, it is an encoding but not designed to be secretive.

    • @sandy_knight
      @sandy_knight Рік тому +1

      @@0LoneTechYou're probably right, I'm just going by what they said on QI. I guess as soon as you publish a cypher it's no longer a cypher.

  • @rascanjero8431
    @rascanjero8431 Рік тому +1

    Thanks

  • @thomasimon
    @thomasimon Рік тому +175

    My girlfriend's dad used to work for a company responsible for laying and maintaining these cables around the North Sea. He has a bit of old cable in his living room. Apparently, dealing with the French was a nightmare

    • @epiendless1128
      @epiendless1128 Рік тому +87

      Family history and a summary of 36% of British history all in one post. Bravo!

    • @Junes.dreams.uk_
      @Junes.dreams.uk_ Рік тому +54

      I am French, I find dealing with the French a nightmare. Your girlfriend’s dad has all my sympathy 💐

    • @coobk
      @coobk Рік тому +5

      french? or just parisians?

    • @ot0m0t0
      @ot0m0t0 Рік тому

      Did you tell him you like to lay pipe also? Guess he was not amused :)

    • @martijn9568
      @martijn9568 Рік тому +2

      ​@@coobkYeah, I've heard that the closer you get to the center of France, the worse they become😉

  • @nonsequitor
    @nonsequitor Рік тому +224

    I hope you guys find deep satisfaction in knowing that pretty much all the tiny superb/ hilarious details you include ABSOLUTELY PAY OFF 🎉🎉🎉 that morse code mobile phone B Roll was absolutely priceless 😂😂😂🙌🙌🙌🙏

    • @haldir108
      @haldir108 Рік тому +10

      I bet you didn't even decode what it said, before gushing about the small details.
      I didn't either. Nobody has time for that.

    • @gehteuchnixan595
      @gehteuchnixan595 Рік тому +21

      8:45 I absolutely love the detail that all the silly things he lists are displayed in the shop‘s window in the background.
      PS: I think I‘ll decode it when I have time.

    • @gradiplayer8109
      @gradiplayer8109 Рік тому +8

      i think it says
      vriw
      wbk
      arece

    • @paulhaynes8045
      @paulhaynes8045 Рік тому

      The problem that we all know that the morse code is something funny, but none of us understand morse code!

    • @nonsequitor
      @nonsequitor Рік тому

      ​@@haldir108 nope. Already wetting my panties over the blocking if that's ok by you of course

  • @Maori_Senju12
    @Maori_Senju12 7 місяців тому +3

    lol, Map Men really has that Sheldon Coopers Fun with Flags feel. Its glorious

  • @stevedriver3635
    @stevedriver3635 Рік тому +17

    7:48 I laughed so hard at the James Cordon joke! Nice little jab

    • @ImproMooray
      @ImproMooray 6 місяців тому

      They took James Corden and then they returned him back to the UK. It was like they were saying: "You can have this one back."

  • @emreapaydn4064
    @emreapaydn4064 Рік тому +6

    Never stop making MapMen. It's one of my joys of life.

  • @ejun251
    @ejun251 Рік тому

    I just found this channel and I love it. It's humor is so unapologetically British in the best way. Looks like I have a lot of videos to churn through so I can avoid doing anything productive.

  • @Yotam1703
    @Yotam1703 Рік тому +10

    Goddamnit I’m glad this show’s back

  • @Nebaus
    @Nebaus Рік тому +22

    2:21 It's funny that Jay says, "A contraption like this would be an awesome clue in an escape room" because it is a clue in the game "The Room 2" which is basically an escape room puzzle game.
    Which is why seeing that contraption in this video made me go "WTF that thing is real?!" upon seeing it. Glad to know it is real and now will adventure on a Wikipedia rabbit hole learning about it, thanks Jay!
    Do recommend the "The Room" series of games by Fireproof Studios, super high quality games with a fantastic supernatural atmosphere

    • @Spax_
      @Spax_ 3 місяці тому

      "The Room" series of games were so good and I also had that immediate thought. I wonder how their next game is doing

  • @jannepeltonen2036
    @jannepeltonen2036 Рік тому +7

    This was super interesting, and as a telecommunications geek, I approve :D Or like we say in the Free Software community - there's no cloud. There's just other people's computers.

    • @derrickthewhite1
      @derrickthewhite1 Рік тому

      Yeah, in 2009 I set about to actually understand what the Internet was, and I was told so much mystical non-material ignorant crap.
      Then I got hired to do tech support for a web hosting company and learned more than I really wanted to.

  • @diprosomr0y
    @diprosomr0y Рік тому +7

    You know its gonna be a fantastic day if Jay release a Map Men video that day

  • @ICTman
    @ICTman Рік тому +134

    That bit at the end about companies listening in on their undersea cables - they almost certainly aren't. Almost all internet traffic is encrypted, so most data they can't even see, and the data they do see would be so much theyd have to build a new datacenter every week. It is concerning that so much internet infra is privately owned, but privacy is not one of the concerns in this case.

    • @michaelthegreatschanelsier2728
      @michaelthegreatschanelsier2728 Рік тому +23

      Of course that’s what they want you to think!

    • @mfaizsyahmi
      @mfaizsyahmi Рік тому +33

      All the intelligence agencies are currently hoarding the encrypted data for the time in the near future where quantum computers are fast enough to brute force decrypt these messages.

    • @Proph3t3N
      @Proph3t3N Рік тому +23

      That's exactly what *checks notes* companies listening in on their undersea cables would say!

    • @d-mancat537
      @d-mancat537 Рік тому +22

      They see who you are sending requests to, how often, from where and at what times, which is more than enough for law enforcement to use.

    • @DasParedes
      @DasParedes Рік тому +9

      I thought the same.
      net neutrality and censorship ( both 'good' and 'bad') are the problems that pop in mind with private unregulated networks.

  • @landon3137
    @landon3137 Рік тому +33

    The maps of the early telegraph networks are fascinating. I pulled up the US map on the Library of Congress website to look at my particular region, and many of the stations were located in towns that are all but disappeared now. I’d really love to run or bike that route to explore these little towns I’ve never had the chance to see before and understand their significance before urbanization and the Rust Belt era left them so depopulated!

    • @feedmytv
      @feedmytv Рік тому +5

      You might have more fun with AT&T long-lines

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L Рік тому +4

      It’d be interesting to see which places have towers still, which still bear scars in the ground, and which you’d never know had anything ever been there.

  • @KOTYAR0
    @KOTYAR0 Рік тому +19

    Mother Earth Mother Board from Neal Stephenson was the most captivating piece of work I've ever read in my life, and it is about undersea cables. I literally can't recommend it enough, it's amazing.

    • @mikeyreza
      @mikeyreza Рік тому +2

      Ok Neal

    • @KOTYAR0
      @KOTYAR0 Рік тому

      @@mikeyreza I'll sell you patent for "Metaverse" for a dollar

  • @Hand-in-Shot_Productions
    @Hand-in-Shot_Productions Рік тому +29

    As always, I found this video both informative and entertaining! In only around 10 minutes, I learned about the multiple "beginning[s] of the internet" (the original telegraph, the electric telegraph, cross-ocean cables) and about how essential the "layer of Vaseline" (in a cable the size of a "human garden hose") is to modern society.
    Also, the jokes in the video are quite funny! For example, I find it remarkable that even as the globes fall off the walls, you were still able to deadpan about this rather unexpectedly comedic event. Speaking of comedic events, I found your illustrations of predecessors to the internet (including Napoleon's Google Maps message at 1:36, offering directions by balloon, telegraph, horse, and foot), as well as the scenes of people speaking in Morse code, quite funny!
    Thanks for making this! Also, congratulations on being #35 on Trending!

  • @captiannemo1587
    @captiannemo1587 Рік тому +19

    The big thing missing is the development of duplex and quadragraphs. Which allowed multiple signals down a single telegraph line. And in turn developed similar signal equipment for telephones and later the internet.

    • @PerMortensen
      @PerMortensen Рік тому +23

      It was the beginning of the internet

  • @OptimusDelta
    @OptimusDelta Рік тому

    The first time i watched a video from this channel it was back in april 2020.just when covid had the world in its grip..this channel will always be a comfort watch for me..❤️