Matter 1.4 Was JUST Released! What Does It Mean?

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  • Опубліковано 26 лис 2024

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  • @AnimeMangaBazinga
    @AnimeMangaBazinga 18 днів тому +9

    Adding off of the whole "sell to apartment complex/rental owners" problem, its not just the small companies. Samsung is also going that way with SmartThings Pro. Companies are trying to force the consumer into their system with shiny doo-dads and fancy features, but at the cost of your own convenience and even potential your privacy. One of the biggest advantages of going to something like Home Assistant.

    • @AutomateYourLife
      @AutomateYourLife  18 днів тому +1

      I agree with this totally!

    • @speedracer9132
      @speedracer9132 4 дні тому +1

      I hate SmartThings. Originally that’s the hub I chose because it wasn’t limited to Samsung’s ecosystem, I was allowed to add so many devices from other companies, now it seems like the only options to add new devices are only Samsung devices

  • @cdarrigo
    @cdarrigo 18 днів тому +13

    Without a complete standard, multi admin is going to be a hot mess. Have they learned nothing from the poorly managed of the first sets of the matter standard? It's another great idea that will be doomed by half baked implementations.

  • @HughD
    @HughD 17 днів тому +1

    As always, thanks for another informative update, Brian. I'm still waiting for a Matter compatible product that matters to me. As I've said more than once, certain companies engineer their products to work with most of the important systems. To name a few, these are companies like Lutron, Hue, Ecobee, and Aqara. Maybe some folks need it, but many of us "regular" folks simply don't. Stay warm up there, my friend. I see it's supposed to get in the 20's next week...brrrr. It's going to get cold here, too...like about 50!

  • @mean1979Brains
    @mean1979Brains 17 днів тому

    As always, taking something as complicated as dev speak and turning it into something that makes sense to the lay-person (just like me!)
    Thanks Brian

  • @Quentame74
    @Quentame74 14 днів тому

    Hi !
    Personally still waiting for cameras to be Matter compatible, with 4K, PTZ, 2 way audio and motion events support included !
    Also Amazon, Apple, Aqara, Google, Samsung and Tesla to go all in the latest Matter versions ! (also Atlantic, Netatmo and Somfy but more in an European style company 😉)
    I know that it won’t be an issue for Home Assistant 🤩
    Thanks for the video and making some light to the Matter protocol !

    • @AutomateYourLife
      @AutomateYourLife  14 днів тому

      Thanks for watching! I'm waiting for those cameras too!

  • @dreamcatcher3748
    @dreamcatcher3748 17 днів тому +1

    Thanks Brian. Great update. I'm still waiting for devices that Alexa can see (mostly Wi-Fi devices that SmartThings can't see) to be visible on SmartThings. Why? Because I like the flexibility of SmartThings Routines better than what Alexa offers (very crude in comparison). And I am waiting for companies that are using Wi-Fi tech like Home Depot's Hubspace, to connect with SmartThings. Right now, it only connects with Alexa (for me). For now, I have to create virtual switches to get a ceiling fan on Hubspace to be controlled in a SmartThings routine... and it only works about 50% of the time. Maybe in another 5 years. (Hopefully in 5 years there will be no more Wi-Fi smart home devices. 😊

  • @jandepreter4318
    @jandepreter4318 17 днів тому

    Asking for what you guys think about it. To cut a long story short. In my house energy management is done by 1 Zappi and 2 Eddi. Monitoring by HomeWizard. All lights and on off switching is Matter based. None of these 3 layers talk to each other. This means power measurement in 3 fold. Hopefully step by step we will see a more practical approach the next coming years. This said it is clear where to find the inspiration. One more thing. In winter time the key parameter is self consumption of the solar energy. In other words getting the kWh injection to zero. The Matter 1.4 protocol certainly is a big step in the good direction. Congratulations so far. ( I'm happy to see the first Matter 1.3 result as the Eve Energy plug gives a kWh reading in SmartThings on my Android phone. Please continue on the same path.)

  • @St.Plourde
    @St.Plourde 17 днів тому

    Thank you for all this great information.
    By the way, I made a leap when I heard you speak French... I'm used to hearing you in French, but above all, I was wondering what you were talking about when I heard Shrend instead Thread 😂

    • @AutomateYourLife
      @AutomateYourLife  17 днів тому +1

      ahahahahhaa...man I don't know what happened to YT today but I got a lot of comments about me speaking funny languages Steve!!

  • @joeyghostx
    @joeyghostx 17 днів тому

    The fact that Matter ready routers are being created as an answer to off-loading routers of actual components really does help out alot. One method I had to try was to turn off a router's discoverability and only utilize it after finding the MAC address to whitelist on the Smart Home Router component. I also have been finding that keeping things adhoc or off ISP reliance due to the issue of it turning into some "giant annoying ad" than actually making a smart home.
    As for the energy management system being heavily commercialized, its not going to go far since HOAs currently do not approve solar panels still, so the companies cannot get far if the hurdle of home modifications since HOA is trying to make houses resellable.
    The updated occupancy standard would be adored in my family since they want to keep things very modular with my designs. (We technically have assigned seats, so it would help moderate energy levels in the correct area.)
    Oh and understanding smart home security systems like Vivint or ADT also REALLY helps with bed time security setups once you fully understand how to program it all to work with other systems. For example, I told my family that arming the house before bed will turn off the air purifying dyson fan since it discourages smoking in the house.

    • @AutomateYourLife
      @AutomateYourLife  17 днів тому +1

      HOA's seem like a nightmare. Giving a small organization of underqualified people the chance to make decisions...not great always

  • @albertogarrido6411
    @albertogarrido6411 18 днів тому +1

    Imagine you have your mesh network installed at home and if only the new routers add the 1.4 protocol, you have to change your wifi installation to take advantage of this. I dunno if it can backwards implemented(Asus for example in their aimesh)

    • @AutomateYourLife
      @AutomateYourLife  18 днів тому +1

      I assume this will be the case. Implementing Matter on older routers will be tough to do as it will tie up resources at 2.4 GHz for Thread

  • @TH3xR34P3R
    @TH3xR34P3R 16 днів тому

    The one thing that matters to me with these updates is that power monitoring aspect.. I would like to see an update pushed out to the useelink matter power boards I have to let me do per port power monitoring and bring that into HA as well as being able to see the battery state of devices that don't show it when used via a hub like the switchbots being used through the hub 2.

  • @bradkrekelberg8624
    @bradkrekelberg8624 18 днів тому

    I'm looking forward to enhanced multi-admin, assumably including credential sharing. My Thread network is weak and it would be nice to have all the Thread hubs I already have working together. It would be even better to get that from Zigbee, but I guess I won't hold my breath. I also like the enhanced control options being added. Right now, I have some Govee Matter devices that I'm using in Alexa with the old school cloud integration because you can do SO much more than Matter allows at present. I'd also really like to see those duplicate devices in Alexa go away and maybe we're working towards that with some of these updates? Maybe?

    • @AutomateYourLife
      @AutomateYourLife  18 днів тому +1

      All the things you're saying I have experienced the same thing!

  • @Microcontrollerslab
    @Microcontrollerslab 10 днів тому

    With Matter 1.4, If I have a Matter-compatible Wi-Fi access point with built-in Thread border router support, will I be able to use it as a hub to commission devices with Matter apps from any ecosystem, such as Apple Home, Google Home, Alexa, and ThingStream? Currently, each ecosystem’s app requires its own hub, which seems like a limitation in Matter, as users would need multiple hubs for different ecosystems.

    • @AutomateYourLife
      @AutomateYourLife  9 днів тому +1

      The short answer is yes. The long answer is the app needs to have access to the Thread network. One of the big updates on Thread 1.4 was related to IPs and was intended to help this.

    • @Microcontrollerslab
      @Microcontrollerslab 9 днів тому

      But why currently users can not use other ecosystems hubs with any other ecosystems apps? I understand Thread 1.4 changes related to IPs If thread was only limitation then Matter over WiFi should work with any hub using any matter app from any ecosystem. Why It does not work?

    • @AutomateYourLife
      @AutomateYourLife  7 днів тому

      Because no one has implemented 1.4, and only a few have implemented 1.3. It's not out there much yet

    • @Microcontrollerslab
      @Microcontrollerslab 7 днів тому

      @@AutomateYourLife I understand Matter 1.4 is not implmented but all major ecosystems have Matter 1.3 now so matter over WiFi devices should work by using any Matter app from any ecosystem irrespective of the hub being used. Yes with Matter 1.4, Thread devices will also come.

  • @GaryV-p3h
    @GaryV-p3h 16 днів тому

    Things will be a lot better in a few years once we've got WiFi 8, 6g mobile networks & Bluetooth 6 etc.

  • @hometechUK
    @hometechUK 17 днів тому

    Finally multi admin uodate but please let it work better, BUT the main fix to matter that should hopefully finx most issues will be THREADS update next yearto remove all but 1 thread network from your home, hopefully. But when will we actually bet both as ompanies taked 6 to 9 to implement updates unfortunately.

  • @ronm6585
    @ronm6585 18 днів тому

    Thank you sir. Cheers.

  • @Tom-hb1no
    @Tom-hb1no 17 днів тому

    Thank you for the very informative video. Should I hold off on purchasing new non Matter devices? In other words will existing devices set up on Wi-Fi or smart things for example be upgraded via software to be Matter compatible?

    • @AutomateYourLife
      @AutomateYourLife  17 днів тому

      Generally, we haven't seen a lot of devices be upgraded to be matter compatible when they are Wi-Fi based, so I wouldn't say that there is necessarily a reason to hold off on purchases.
      Sometimes we are seeing companies create a new version that is matter compatible and so if you want to wait for that then I think that's reasonable. It all depends on your timeline for wanting the features or functionality in your home

    • @Tom-hb1no
      @Tom-hb1no 15 днів тому

      @@AutomateYourLife thanks for the quick reply. I was considering switching out my outlets to smart outlets, say the Eve with matter (US$50) versus Kasa (US$15) non matter. I have smarthings hub V2 and Echo Plus v2 as matter hubs - is it worth it to pay more for the matter capable outlets or is it possible the Kasa outlets could be upgrade to matter capable with software? As I understand it some devices do not have the requisite hardware for matter - is that accurate? (as an aside a video on smart panels, breakers, outlets, plugs comparison would be a great video - nothing is really out there on the subject)

  • @SteveLeAnnePorter
    @SteveLeAnnePorter 18 днів тому +1

    I would love to watch this one. Unfortunately the only languages it has are all non-english

    • @AutomateYourLife
      @AutomateYourLife  18 днів тому

      @@SteveLeAnnePorter I'm being told it's working on phone. Something is wrong with the streamers for an unknown reason.

  • @SteveLeAnnePorter
    @SteveLeAnnePorter 18 днів тому +4

    I don't speak French or Spanish or German or any of the languages that are listed as available

    • @AutomateYourLife
      @AutomateYourLife  18 днів тому

      @@SteveLeAnnePorter try on a phone or tablet!

    • @SteveLeAnnePorter
      @SteveLeAnnePorter 18 днів тому +2

      @AutomateYourLife I watched these on my home TV. I don't have a tablet or a phone that's suitable for watching this on

    • @AutomateYourLife
      @AutomateYourLife  16 днів тому

      I can't help YTs mistakes. Sorry you'll have to watch another time

  • @emmettf1107
    @emmettf1107 17 днів тому

    Im using an aqara m3 matter router with 40+ aqara devices in home assistant. The problem is the hub is only sharing very basic entities or not sharing the devices at all with home assistant.

    • @AutomateYourLife
      @AutomateYourLife  17 днів тому

      Yeah that's a bridge. Doesn't bring everything across.

  • @AdieAdie17
    @AdieAdie17 18 днів тому +1

    Strangely when i play your video on my Apple TV 4k the audio is switching (automatically) between French, German, Italian, Portuguese and Spanish!!! The English soundtrack is not here.
    It's only happening only on this channel and on THIS VIDEO ONLY, yet on my iPad it's in English 😮

    • @AutomateYourLife
      @AutomateYourLife  18 днів тому

      @@AdieAdie17 I'm hearing this is happening on streamers for some reason! Sorry

    • @AdieAdie17
      @AdieAdie17 17 днів тому

      @ yep just tried to watch Reeds Smart Home video and he's got the same issue. Very strange 🤷‍♂️

    • @AutomateYourLife
      @AutomateYourLife  17 днів тому +1

      I think it's cause we allowed YT to test out their new AI languages on our channels. I imagine Reed likes having the new features like I do. Looks like it bit us a bit today

  • @DesignTiyani
    @DesignTiyani 18 днів тому +1

    Strange thing happening. On my Google TV 4k this video doesn't have an English audio channel. But it does on my phone

    • @AutomateYourLife
      @AutomateYourLife  18 днів тому

      @@DesignTiyani I'm hearing this from a few folks...sorry! I don't know what's going on and I can't fix it

    • @DesignTiyani
      @DesignTiyani 18 днів тому

      @AutomateYourLife no problem. Probably an issue on UA-cam's end. Anyway great work. Keep it up. My smart home continues to take shape

  • @Max86421
    @Max86421 16 днів тому

    Nice! 👍

  • @gbforfunbruh7090
    @gbforfunbruh7090 17 днів тому

    When are we getting multi hub from Phillips hue cause my house is about to be done and I kinda need that lol

    • @AutomateYourLife
      @AutomateYourLife  17 днів тому

      Good question. I thought that was out already...but don't need it so wasn't tracking it

  • @GreenBlueWalkthrough
    @GreenBlueWalkthrough 18 днів тому

    When it comes to app integration current day matter reminds me alot of Windows plug and play of 20 years ago... Like they are very similar experiences given that Matter today you can just add devices to it but you still very much need the apps that came with the devices... Unlike plug a play today when the vast majority of devices don't even come with druvers uniquet to them much less then a peice of softwear you very much need to the get the most out of them.... So I can see in the future smart devices on matter being the same way as plug and play devices today... Also I could see android and windows having native matter support so you won't need to have an app at all... Atleast windows anyway.

    • @AutomateYourLife
      @AutomateYourLife  18 днів тому

      That's a great analogy, and I think one of the biggest problems that Matter has to face.

  • @Group51
    @Group51 16 днів тому

    Ok. No doorbells yet. Got it. 😢

  • @rubencaceiro3776
    @rubencaceiro3776 17 днів тому

    Very nice enhancements to matter spec, but very stupid matter spec doesn’t support dehumidifier and garage door openers, but support cooktops

    • @AutomateYourLife
      @AutomateYourLife  17 днів тому +1

      I feel like the dehumidifier will fit under small appliances improvements being made. We'll see.
      But some of the choices do feel backwards to those of us who have been building for a while!

  • @engineeringVirtue
    @engineeringVirtue 18 днів тому

    I've noticed that wifi devices tend to require their own apps or just be cheap and even thread stuff is overusing ip addresses and over consuming access point resources even with wifi 6E (Havent upgraded to wifi 7 yet). On the other hand, the devices that work the best are still zwave but manufacturers arent asvertising that..

    • @cooliipie
      @cooliipie 18 днів тому +1

      Almost all my devices are Z wave. I don't see that changing for a decade

    • @AnimeMangaBazinga
      @AnimeMangaBazinga 18 днів тому

      I thought the point of thread was to not use IP addresses? Am I missing something?

    • @AutomateYourLife
      @AutomateYourLife  18 днів тому

      @@engineeringVirtue this is all very true...

    • @AutomateYourLife
      @AutomateYourLife  18 днів тому

      @@AnimeMangaBazinga yeah they are using IP with Thread now. It's because it's tough to find programmers for non IP gear (mostly) is what I've been told

    • @engineeringVirtue
      @engineeringVirtue 17 днів тому

      @AnimeMangaBazinga I tend to avoid any home gear requiring wifi now if Bluetooth or Z-wave is an option but my home + home office network is probably 64 zwave devices, 40-50 Bluetooth, and the router says roughly 120 active dhcp leases with a timeout of 1-2 days. Looking through the dhcp table, every samsung appliance or nest smoke alarm or ups/power bank or specific light fixtures and dozen cooking gadgets, including the meat thermometer ... maybe 30 of those were advertised as matter first. It's just horrible, but at least the newer wifi with multiple bands and density optimization and several access points makes it work... this would have broken older generations set up. Still, home automation is best when you put the right devices on the right frequency and protocol; Defaulting to everything being 2.4ghz with individual ip addresses is stupid. Zwave is perfect for low bandwidth simple power efficient devices that need to be reliable. Bluetooth has very specific uses. Even zigabee has its pros. Wifi made sense for complicated high bandwidth devices like cameras. Matter seems to make integration and setup of new devices a little easier, but it's being implemented silly.

  • @JoshsSmartHome
    @JoshsSmartHome 14 днів тому

    Matter … full integration across everything through a method of siloed and disjointed implementation. Slightly better, maybe, but not what Matter should be at this point.

    • @AutomateYourLife
      @AutomateYourLife  13 днів тому

      Let's hope it accelerates. It's moving pretty well right now, but not where it needs to be for most of us to be excited

  • @philipperostin
    @philipperostin 18 днів тому

    I am yet to get a Matter IOT thing ! Did not see any in stores, but hey, who buys in stores anymore ?

    • @AutomateYourLife
      @AutomateYourLife  18 днів тому +1

      Ahahahaha no I don't go into many stores. Best Buy a few times, but all I really saw were lights and cameras

  • @Max86421
    @Max86421 16 днів тому

    That's good news for iPhone users 🍎

  • @wapphigh5250
    @wapphigh5250 17 днів тому

    i hate using Matter. I won't add any more devices until I can add them directly in HA using my open thread border router and i can use things like the thread radio in my Apple TV to extend my open thread border router thread network. Does 1.4 allow this?

    • @AutomateYourLife
      @AutomateYourLife  17 днів тому +2

      Thread 1.4 is built for that, but it'll be a while. As for open...well you're gonna use Matter over Thread. Not entirely open

    • @wapphigh5250
      @wapphigh5250 17 днів тому

      @@AutomateYourLife Sure.. it's always "a while" with Matter. It was supposed to be "open source" - well that was the selling point all those years ago - when it was developed. Yet here we are nearly 2025.. and the large companies who signed up for it STILL want to lock it down. So much for an open and transparent platform. It is nothing of the sort right now. Big tech and The industry have conned us all on Matter/thread. They will delay and delay as long as they can.. these constant delays 100% proves it! Just MO!

  • @sendo427
    @sendo427 17 днів тому

    I like the idea of matter but I freaking hate how it works because it constantly goes down and then I got to re pair them because they won't come back online no matter how many times I restart the hub and router.

    • @AutomateYourLife
      @AutomateYourLife  17 днів тому

      I find Matter products fall off with Thread cause my network isn't good enough. Some wifi ones still do, but it depends on the maker much more than anything else. At least that's what I've found!

    • @sendo427
      @sendo427 17 днів тому

      @AutomateYourLife ya I know what you mean like my aqara P2 matter over thread door sensors are the ones that give me the most problems and sometimes I want to get the zigbee ones because the p2's go offline for any little thing that happens with my hubs or my mesh router. But when everything does work it's just beautiful.

  • @SmartHomeHASHTAGS
    @SmartHomeHASHTAGS 17 днів тому

    I must have a hand phobia because every time you raise your massive digits I freak out and get a little jealous (👉 Friends TV show reference)

  • @sekritskworl-sekrit_studios
    @sekritskworl-sekrit_studios 17 днів тому

    ISPs in the home??? YUCK!

  • @DoppsPkin
    @DoppsPkin 17 днів тому +3

    Please disable the absolutely horrible AI voice tracks

    • @AutomateYourLife
      @AutomateYourLife  17 днів тому +1

      There shouldn't be one for English

    • @AutomateYourLife
      @AutomateYourLife  17 днів тому +1

      And that is a new feature we are allowed to use from UA-cam so it's not me doing it

    • @St.Plourde
      @St.Plourde 17 днів тому

      You have to click on the gear at the top right of the video and choose the right audio track.I was tired of hearing Shread at Thread Place. And I missed Brian's soft and smooth voice too.😅

  • @Fez_Vrasta
    @Fez_Vrasta 16 днів тому

    Good call stopping with the fake deep voice. The videos are much more enjoyable now.