Little Hope - Eps 9 (Finale) - Wait, It's Over?
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- Adam and Jay reach the unexpected end to their journey through the nightmare town of Little Hope. Spoiler: Shocking twists, and surprised faces abound.
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In the prologue, when looking around, you see that Anthony has a strong interest in the Salem Witch Trials which is the reason to why he flashbacks to all the witch trials centuries ago!
You guys got the most mild ending of the possible endings.
Yup, really middle of the road. Which is where we spent a lot of the game, just walking down the middle of the road.
I’m commenting this several months late but on the off chance that Adam and/or Jay see this perhaps I can shed some light. The main story of this game is one of survivors guilt, PTSD and resentment. Anthony/Andrew was the sole survivor of the fire in the 70s which filled him with survivor’s guilt and caused him to harbor resentment towards his little sister Megan who he blamed for the entire event. The whole time travel aspect is merely a coping mechanism for Anthony. He hallucinates his family going through the events of the game and slowly discovering that Megan was innocent. As you both realized and pointed out, the priest had influence on Mary which parallels Megan. She was a “problem child” because many speculate the priest was abusing her in some form or another. The shadowy figure in the prologue was a manifestation of her mental trauma and the drawing on the wall depicted the priest as a demon. By choosing to save Mary and condemn the priest Anthony is finally able to forgive Megan and while it doesn’t erase the pain and trauma from the past that helps put him more at peace. And you are correct in assuming it’s “an ending” had you kept the gun and made the wrong decisions bus driver Anthony either would’ve gotten arrested after Vince called the cops on him or he would’ve sat on the house’s porch, pointed the gun the gun to himself and a jumpscare from Megan would’ve caused him to pull the trigger.
I for one think this game is not only fantastic aesthetically and gameplay wise but the story revolving around mental illness and trauma is so much deeper and emotional than a mere spookfest. The ending is absolutely beautiful and heart wrenching and it makes me wanna cry every time I see it. And I for one find it very refreshing to finally find a channel that understands the whole redemption arc bit. A majority of the other UA-camr I’ve seen get one or more people killed in the house and they’re anger about that taints their opinion of the game. Even though you guys flew through the game and missed a lot of clues and collectibles I throughly enjoyed and appreciated that you still mostly pieced the story together, realized the redemption arc mechanic and you didn’t let the final deaths ruin your perception of this amazing game.
Oh and in case you didn’t realize: Isaac the Executioner during the witch trials is the police officer that detours bus driver Anthony at the beginning of the game and Judge Wyman is the neighbor that asked Anthony what he had done during the prologue
Since there is already such a long comment, I'll give my own piece of mind.
I'd say Anthony doesn't blame Megan more than he blames himself, but the reason why he puts her in the vilain's role ( in ''his'' role ) is because he can't directly fight himself in this made-up fantasy and because Megan was like him in many ways anyway. She wasn't abused by the priest, the story isn't at all about actual evil, but about inner demons, in this case loneliness, guilt and self-hatred.
Megan was just lonely and misanderstood, being a new adopted kid with siblings who've all been there for years, she was like a black sheep. Anthony was the most indulgent with her because he used to be in her shoes, Dennis and Tanya having been James and Anne's children for far longer than Anthony, and then years later, Megan. Anthony could probably sense a special bond between Dennis and Tanya ( like they were real siblings, something he or Megan could never achieve with each other, or with Dennis and/or Tanya ) and his confused mind put them as a romantic couple in 2019 as a consequence, putting himself as an outsider once more. Megan made up an imaginary friend who would listen to her, because she says nobody sees her in her family.
And she didn't mean real harm in the prologue, she was just bitter and tried being a brat by locking everyone in and Tanya and Anthony out as soon as the occasion arised, but her intention was only to piss them off for attention. She's just a kid and didn't mean to forget a doll next to the fire. Mary does say in the final trial that she never meant actual harm to anybody in the town. They did give petty reasons for her lying about Amy and Tabitha ( chastising her and taking her doll away ) and Mary wasn't the one who decided they would be killed for that. She didn't accuse David nor Joseph. And since this is all in Anthony's head, he couldn't have himself as the "enemy" in this fantasy of his, so he put Megan instead as the vilain, because they were both in the same kind of guilt : the rest of the family died because of them both been clumsy, Anthony by leaving the stove unattended, and Megan by leaving her doll next to the stove. If you accuse Mary in the trial, she does yell at Andrew that "this is all on your head" and that's also why accusing her and having her executed pushes Andrew to commit suicide later, if he has the gun. If you admit that Megan killed everyone in 1970 ( by being clumsy/unattentive ) so did Anthony.
If you accuse the doll instead, Anthony comes to the conclusion that it was only a mistake that couldn't have been predicted and avoided and that these things happen, sometimes with dramatic consequences, but that in the end it was none of his ( or Megan's ) fault. If you accuse an obscure third party ( the priest ) he tells himself that it wasn't about his mistake, but that something else was going on to make the fire happen, something he couldn't even see then and will never see now after all these years, real answers or culprits impossible to find. Both of those two endings have him on the way to maybe one day forgive himself, but accusing Mary is admiting irredeemable guilt.
If you had the family behave the whole game as cowards, it's also putting more blame on Anthony because that means he should have protected them. It's important to note that in the prologue, every single one of them calls out for Anthony, begging for help. He heard them all ( the last thing he heard from them ) and wasn't fast enough to help or smart enough to give good enough advices. If you had them being brave and behave as team players in the game, it means they should have been able to save themselves in 1970, that they had it in them and that them dying once the fire broke wasn't enterily on Anthony's shoulders. That's why he also kills himself with the gun if John, Angela, Daniel and Taylor all die, why he has them die at the demons' hands in the burnt house if they were selfish, cowardly, helpless ; to punish himself for not been there for them, by watching them die again. That's why it's also important to have the hallucinations survive.
To me, everything has to do with the family and how Anthony/Megan felt out of place when they were alive, and guilty for killing them after they were dead. This is why the theme picked for his fantasy is witch hunting, real witches in these times were all about feeling self-hatred and guilt for things that were out of their control. Anthony needs to understand he's not a monster despite what everyone else and even himself want to believe.
This game deserves a award
I love these guys so much, but their choices baffle me every time lol.
You chose the “Fearful” decisions and not the “Heroic” ones. That killed Taylor, while the “Reckless” option killed Daniel and the “Reassuring” one would’ve saved him.
Finalmente dos personas que se dieron cuenta que cambian de personaje cuando aparece el nombre abajo, esque la gente que jugó así en local ni se daba cuenta y matab4n a algún personaje de un amigo suyo y daba frustración por eso
Wow Adam, stone cold. You just left Angela. Good thing it was all his psychosis and none of it mattered
That’s what I was thinking. I don’t feel too bad about people dying cause they were dead the whole time 😬
It did matter for Anthony, technically each character that dies is a burden he will keep carrying
It did matter
I suggest a second play through with different decisions
Adam locks in indecisive…lol
I know this is 6 months late but I still thought it would be fun to clarify. The only ways to save the characters would either be 1, play them picking all the nicest options possible, other than the non heroic option when about to be caught by their demons. If they only have 1 trait locked at the end when the house locks them in they are deemed worthy by the demons. Otherwise whenever they are about to get caught if you choose the heroic option, it unlocks all of their traits and they survive the rest of the night. That’s why John survived while the others didn’t, he had chosen self sacrifice and therefore redeemed himself to the demons, and Andrew(Anthony). Now on the ending, it’s up in the air weather Megan was actually being influenced by a demonic force when she burnt the house down, but the main theory is that she was being molested by the priest, which is what the demon was supposed to represent, and the entire opening fire scene was how Anthony’s broken mind remembers the night, blaming her for the fire. The entire game after the cop pulled over Anthony was in his head, an episode of something akin to schizophrenia brought on by the mention of his trauma(Little Hope) and the story was his journey of forgiving himself and his family over how they acted and his role in the fire.
Anyway, can’t wait for you guys to play House of Ashes once that comes out, y’all always make the best videos on this series and many others!
Since there is already such a long comment, I'll give my own piece of mind.
I'd say Anthony doesn't blame Megan more than he blames himself, but the reason why he puts her in the vilain's role ( in ''his'' role ) is because he can't directly fight himself in this made-up fantasy and because Megan was like him in many ways anyway. She wasn't abused by the priest, the story isn't at all about actual evil, but about inner demons, in this case loneliness, guilt and self-hatred.
Megan was just lonely and misanderstood, being a new adopted kid with siblings who've all been there for years, she was like a black sheep. Anthony was the most indulgent with her because he used to be in her shoes, Dennis and Tanya having been James and Anne's children for far longer than Anthony, and then years later, Megan. Anthony could probably sense a special bond between Dennis and Tanya ( like they were real siblings, something he or Megan could never achieve with each other, or with Dennis and/or Tanya ) and his confused mind put them as a romantic couple in 2019 as a consequence, putting himself as an outsider once more. Megan made up an imaginary friend who would listen to her, because she says nobody sees her in her family.
And she didn't mean real harm in the prologue, she was just bitter and tried being a brat by locking everyone in and Tanya and Anthony out as soon as the occasion arised, but her intention was only to piss them off for attention. She's just a kid and didn't mean to forget a doll next to the fire. Mary does say in the final trial that she never meant actual harm to anybody in the town. They did give petty reasons for her lying about Amy and Tabitha ( chastising her and taking her doll away ) and Mary wasn't the one who decided they would be killed for that. She didn't accuse David nor Joseph. And since this is all in Anthony's head, he couldn't have himself as the "enemy" in this fantasy of his, so he put Megan instead as the vilain, because they were both in the same kind of guilt : the rest of the family died because of them both been clumsy, Anthony by leaving the stove unattended, and Megan by leaving her doll next to the stove. If you accuse Mary in the trial, she does yell at Andrew that "this is all on your head" and that's also why accusing her and having her executed pushes Andrew to commit suicide later, if he has the gun. If you admit that Megan killed everyone in 1970 ( by being clumsy/unattentive ) so did Anthony.
If you accuse the doll instead, Anthony comes to the conclusion that it was only a mistake that couldn't have been predicted and avoided and that these things happen, sometimes with dramatic consequences, but that in the end it was none of his ( or Megan's ) fault. If you accuse an obscure third party ( the priest ) he tells himself that it wasn't about his mistake, but that something else was going on to make the fire happen, something he couldn't even see then and will never see now after all these years, real answers or culprits impossible to find. Both of those two endings have him on the way to maybe one day forgive himself, but accusing Mary is admiting irredeemable guilt.
If you had the family behave the whole game as cowards, it's also putting more blame on Anthony because that means he should have protected them. It's important to note that in the prologue, every single one of them calls out for Anthony, begging for help. He heard them all ( the last thing he heard from them ) and wasn't fast enough to help or smart enough to give good enough advices. If you had them being brave and behave as team players in the game, it means they should have been able to save themselves in 1970, that they had it in them and that them dying once the fire broke wasn't enterily on Anthony's shoulders. That's why he also kills himself with the gun if John, Angela, Daniel and Taylor all die, why he has them die at the demons' hands in the burnt house if they were selfish, cowardly, helpless ; to punish himself for not been there for them, by watching them die again. That's why it's also important to have the hallucinations survive.
To me, everything has to do with the family and how Anthony/Megan felt out of place when they were alive, and guilty for killing them after they were dead. This is why the theme picked for his fantasy is witch hunting, real witches in these times were all about feeling self-hatred and guilt for things that were out of their control. Anthony needs to understand he's not a monster despite what everyone else and even himself want to believe.
Didn't you, Adam, in just the last episode say something about wanting the game to just be over? Careful what you wish for. ;)
You’re absolutely right. 😬
Omg only John was left 😭😂
He's my favorite character
1:10 I totally heard can we get some more POT not PLOT hahahahahahahahaha
FIX UR DAMN AUDIO U TRYNNA DEAFEN ME
you took the cowards way our and ran, I'm disappointed.
Hey it's the Fight Club scenario!
Yep, ya'll done screwed up.
Yeaaaaah. That made no freaking sense. He hallucinated all the stuff he wasn't around for while he was doing something else? And even if I can force myself to buy that, it's still so very deeply less satisfying than the "spiritual weigh station" story would be.
There is definitely a supernatural element. It’s an allegory for grief/survivors guilt, but you also help the souls of his family move on in the afterlife. You face each of their individual demons and in order to save them you have to overcome their bad traits from their life. Their saved trophies have them with angel wings and a halo, indicating that Megan’s spirit guided Anthony through the town to help him save his family. The good ending where they all “live” is their souls being saved and freed.
Well guess what the only thing that matters is shooting at vince and saving Mary what a waste of time. That’s it good or bad ending- flip the switch…
The way you act as the characters matters too.
It was his imagination, all those events happened he just replaced the original people with his family, he was suffering a bad case of survivors guilt. I don't know about the Mary thing though, she did cause strife in the house though.
I think this was just all on his head, he tried to justify as his sister being possessed or just crazy, and all the witch trial stories was him trying to change the guilty and them coming to terms with it.
Is Jay's last name Schmidt? I was watching another UA-camr play, and they read a note and the note was signed by a couple general managers, A. Lash, and J. Schmidt. I thought I remembered his last name was Schmidt. You guys might be in the game! By name only, but still!
Adam amazes me with how well he is at killing characters...it's almost like a curse.
This game was an interesting insight to your own psyche. Just the change in you fellas from the last game to this one is huge... and I’m not really sure it’s for the better... 👀😬 Then again, maybe it is! 🤷🏻♀️ I don’t mean in your game play and reactions, I mean as you fellas, personally. In the previous games, you both took characters deaths really, really, REALLY personally. To the point of wanting to go back as replay the game to “fix it” to save everyone. But within seconds of Angela’s murder, you both were pretty cool with it. I can see being all ‘whatever’ with the other two, because you had no control in that moment with their endings. But you didn’t know that with Angela. This game really made me think on multiple levels. And you fellas did a great job!!! I can’t wait to see the next one!!!
Take good care of yourselves!!! Stay happy and healthy and SAFE!!!
Much love,
Peaches 🍑🍑🍑💙💙💙
I actually feel bad that they came so close to getting the everyone lives ending plus the only reason someone actually died was because they were looking out for someone else
That statue in the trailer looks very similar to the statue at the beginning of the exorcist
This story was bad and it made no sense, you stuck with this game but you couldn’t hang with the Avengers?
Sorry, but you're just stupid if you thing that the story doesn't make sense. It realy does.