Two brothers that get along great together. Makes me smile to see you two together. Paul could not fit airline and his brother could. Together they are an awesome team.
@@ScannerDanner That guy needs to find another channel instead. Something like origami. Clearly auto electronics is not his bag. Reason I say that is this world requires a sense of humour. He's obviously struggling with that.
As a kia dealer tech, we have a pitstop for this issue. It isn't a tsb so aftermarket probably doesn't have access to the bulletin. But hey Danner found it and got it fixed up! Happy Easter guys 🐰
Using the paper to separate the fittings and lines from each other and seeing which side of the paper the smoke builds up on is a great tip to remember. If you've got two things right next to each other it keeps the smoke on the side that it's coming from. I'm slipping some sheets of paper into my leak kit right now so I don't forget that one. One of the easiest and best tips I've heard of in a long time. Thanks guys. Jpol.
Amazing case study on a cracked EVAP canister, never seen anything like this one😉 Thanks for sharing SD👍 Special thanks to James Danner for finding the leak for us😉 & also Caleb Danner, superb editing👍 Stay Safe Guy's❤
I came in for the educational content. But stayed for the comedy aspect. I knew this was going to be an entertaining video, watching Paul suffering thru the EVAP diagnostics.
Good point, about how bad stick lights are for finding smoke. You need the high contrast of a point source. A broad light source from behind is better for video generally but a point source from the side is better to highlight subtle defects. When doing drywall or body work I use a point source from the side to highlight shadows.
Another great video! I like to just hang out with you guys, Jimmy stays cool and calm, Paul is stressing... The canister was buried deep, hard to see. The tag team fixed it again. Great video work Caleb. Thanks for sharing!
I came for the repair and stayed for the show wearing my SD Horizontal white logo tee shirt.Another great video you guys as always.Have a great Easter everyone.
There is a recall on those canisters. This car has the auxilary canister installed (in the vent pipe, right above the exhaust pipe before the vent valve) which should have only been installed if the original canister passed. The most common crack is in the plastic around the brass bushings where the bracket bolts go into, if you wire brush around them you can usually see a line going away from the brass grommet in the plastic. Depending on the year and if it is a QF or TF Optima (different plants made them) the recall would replace the canister if cracked, replace the bracket with new bolts and soft washers if it passed, or add that aux canister as seen on this car which would have been installed if it passed when it was in for the recall or recall was not performed correctly.
I agree Danner, no oil changes, no EVAP leaks, no spark plugs. I've owned a Tesla for 3 months now. I used to do all my maintenance, sometimes looking forward to it. But at almost 70 it ain't fun nomow!
Hey mate those kia/Hyundai are known to leak from the mounting holes where they pressfit the thread into the canister! Over time the pressfit threads corrode, and expand! Causing the canister to crack and leak!
Used to fix a lot of EVAP on VAG group vehicles, most were easy enough with a smoke out but had a couple where the O2 sensor was not detecting the rich mixture once the valve opened, those were a pain to find
Spoke too soon on the evap leak lol. I am in the process of diagnosing an AC fault using your techniques :). Thought it just leaked out some refrigerant so I put the manifold gauges on ready to fill it up and realized the ac clutch isn't kicking on. After hooking my scanner up I noticed the computer was commanding the ac clutch on so that told me the inputs are good and that I needed to look at the outputs. The relay is kicking on so that tells me the ac clutch output to the relay is good and that I need to check for the power, ground, and the pcm telling the ac clutch to turn on at the compressor. If I have that then I need a new compressor/ ac clutch. It took my longer to type this down than it did to go through the thought process in my head, that's how powerful your teachings are :). I'll let you know what the fix ends up being.
For plugging the line like evap I usually use 1/4 inch deep sockets. Just find the right size among the smallest ones and you can always put a hose on the other end.
I’ve been collecting various pieces of canister lines . Both male and female. Every time I replace a canister or a line. I cut off the ends. Similar to making a transducer out of a GM FTPS .
I have an 02 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4.7L that says P1494 leak detection pump switch or mechanical fault. What is wrong. I think the LDP is in the rear drivers side behind the rear tire in a rusty box behind wheel well paneling. I also have a fuel smell on startup but may be unrelated. I need advice to fix it myself
I thought he was going to go grab a raytech thermo infrared gun and use it's laser. He brings out a 380. Frame. 😂🤣 That's classic. Love the video. Made me laugh.
Paul you were snookered by your own brother. Super Mario Diagnostics just did a smoke test with a great light. Check it out man. I’m not snookering you it’s a really good light. Oh that’s right your not doing anymore evap leaks Lol. Your brother is great. We all need a good laugh 😊😊 Thanks for sharing. Artie
Tesla's have transmission fluid Paul! I like watching videos with all the Danner clan at work!! There are good videos on EV vehicles on you tube! Great video guys! Ps. We don't have to worry about evap leaks here in Michigan where I reside ha ha
I wanted to laugh at you and I did laugh at you. An EVAP crabby Scanner Danner is a pretty funny Scanner Danner on this side of the screen. But, this reminded me of a Jeep canister and suddenly I'm a little salty. I won't whine too much, but I'll summarize it like this: I lost a fight with the boss over that canister and then lost two fights with the canister itself. Glad to see you won this round.
Hyundai and Kia seem to get frequent EVAP leaks but they are usually straight forward i Dont mind them but i tracked down a large leak on like an 2010 Mazda something or other not long ago and it had a simple system but the canister and vent vale were above the rear subframe and it was so difficult to get too! Digging through the rust and dirt 😫😫 it sucked! Ford transit vans stink too because they have miles of heat shield
Just like every other change in our field, we really learn about them, when we touch them for the first time. We both have lots of time to learn. I wouldn't be too concerned
P0456 is a small leak code, not large leak. Just had one on my Subaru. Looks like the top of my gas tank is starting to rust out. Bad news on a Subaru.
I lucked out on an evap leak not long ago. Girlfriends 2015 sorento had the check engine light come on and a code for a large evap leak. With being busy and having a hate for evap leaks I kept putting it off. Then one day a little over three months later the light turned out and all went back to normal. Nice when it fixes itself lol
Kia tech for about a year. The sorentos have problems with the fuel pump assemblies. It’s usually the one on the passenger side under the second row back seat. But you may as well do both since they are right there. New gaskets and lock rings 👍🏻
Hi Paul, nice video always enjoy the content and all the step by step troubleshooting videos. Now I have a question about your Merch, Do you have any designs that would have the SD logo and don’t be a parts changer only? I know u have the SD logo ,scanner danner, don’t be a parts changer. Thanks
I'm not sure that I do but we can make whatever you want. teespring.com/stores/scannerdanner-2 Let me know what particular shirt and what you're looking for.
Use UV Smoke Fluid and a Blacklight! forget about the soap, Any more that is my goto way of checking and it "seems" 90% effective. The last OTC I got had all that, what a game changer.
inspection mirror! not a mirror in sight lol I like halogen incandescent lights, far easier to see smoke with, than the drab eye piercing white led junk. other than that a nice high power laser(not one that will burn things though lol) green is probably the best, maybe find some lensing that makes a wider flat spread beam.
LOL, you can drive down the road with a fouled plug and cherry red cat converter and have no PO codes but any little tiny thing with the evap valve will toss an EVAP code right away before you get out of the driveway.
My friend, how are you? I would like to ask my 1996 Jeep Grand Cherokee when examining the computer to check for faults, so that no information appears in the scanner, what is the reason, please.
That year had issues with communication with some OBD2 scan tools. Cycle the key on, off, on, off, on and then count the flashes of the check engine light for codes. They are two digit codes and 55 is the end of the report.
Hi Paul, I have your ebook, and can’t seem to find anything about evap leaks or purge valves , although it was a quick look I would like to learn more, does your book have it
Chapter 3 "Output Solenoids and Transistor Drivers" would cover every single type of purge or vent solenoid testing. Chapter 8 "Pressure Sensors" would cover your EVAP tank psi sensor Chaptet 2 "switch inputs" would cover LDP psi switches etc. To be clear, the above mentioned chapters may not have the specific component you are looking for, but they contain information on how to test ALL of these components on ALL of the cars and on every single system. Thank you!
@@ScannerDanner yup, green is best. Red and purple struggle and good blue lasers are hard to find, the reason green works is because of a phenomenon known as Rayliegh scattering, also, green lasers are constructed differently and generally emit a stronger, brighter and more dense light, and the human eye is better at picking up green colours in low light conditions.
Thanks again Escanor dinner I love CBD us when you and your brother man it’s nice seeing you guys getting along pretty well very nice this whole brother should be man thank you very much thank you for helping your brother man
I came for the repairs stayed for the show 😁👍
Thank you!
@@ScannerDanner'll ĺ
Really, with this high quality shooting/editing, repeat faces, you could do a reality series worth watching.
@@matth9359 I'd want front row seat.
Two brothers that get along great together. Makes me smile to see you two together. Paul could not fit airline and his brother could. Together they are an awesome team.
Some guy just commented how there is too much b.s. at my brothers shop and he doesn't learn anything 😂
Can't please everyone I guess. Thanks James!
@@ScannerDanner That guy needs to find another channel instead. Something like origami. Clearly auto electronics is not his bag. Reason I say that is this world requires a sense of humour. He's obviously struggling with that.
As a kia dealer tech, we have a pitstop for this issue. It isn't a tsb so aftermarket probably doesn't have access to the bulletin. But hey Danner found it and got it fixed up! Happy Easter guys 🐰
Kia Hyundai being a junk keeps you in business!
Showed you the crack, what more did you want 😉
Maybe the full moon 🤣
I guy I worked next to showed me this (ex-kia tech) on one and I always remember to go there first now.
Cigars, guns and Danner’s .... I could hang here🤣
The best SD vids are when the Danner bros are working together
Man that was hilarious. I would pay to come and watch you two work together.
Dude, mr danner's brother is funny!! Blowing smoke while he was looking for that leak😂🤣😂😂🤣
Gold star for editing and effects Caleb!
Thank you, friend!
You know the repair is going well when the fire arms come out. I love this channel. Keep doing wjat you guys are doing.
What a great brother you are Paul for not bailing!!
Using the paper to separate the fittings and lines from each other and seeing which side of the paper the smoke builds up on is a great tip to remember. If you've got two things right next to each other it keeps the smoke on the side that it's coming from. I'm slipping some sheets of paper into my leak kit right now so I don't forget that one. One of the easiest and best tips I've heard of in a long time. Thanks guys. Jpol.
Awesome. Props to my brother on that on
I love the effects this camera makes. Very professional!
We are working on more stability next. It's hard for Caleb to keep up with me sometimes. But thank you! The feedback is important
Amazing case study on a cracked EVAP canister, never seen anything like this one😉
Thanks for sharing SD👍
Special thanks to James Danner for finding the leak for us😉
& also Caleb Danner, superb editing👍
Stay Safe Guy's❤
I came in for the educational content. But stayed for the comedy aspect. I knew this was going to be an entertaining video, watching Paul suffering thru the EVAP diagnostics.
Evap leaks suck! Nice find Danner!
ZZ Top Danner made my day with the laser gun😅
As a golf course superintendent for 40+ years, I know a real mechanic when I see one. This guy is the ticket.
Thanks so much!
Good point, about how bad stick lights are for finding smoke. You need the high contrast of a point source. A broad light source from behind is better for video generally but a point source from the side is better to highlight subtle defects. When doing drywall or body work I use a point source from the side to highlight shadows.
Best leak finder soap, Mr. Bubble Dream Bubble mix.
Another great video! I like to just hang out with you guys, Jimmy stays cool and calm, Paul is stressing... The canister was buried deep, hard to see. The tag team fixed it again. Great video work Caleb. Thanks for sharing!
That's exactly it! And why my brother has perfect blood pressure and I don't lol
I came for the repair and stayed for the show wearing my SD Horizontal white logo tee shirt.Another great video you guys as always.Have a great Easter everyone.
There is a recall on those canisters. This car has the auxilary canister installed (in the vent pipe, right above the exhaust pipe before the vent valve) which should have only been installed if the original canister passed. The most common crack is in the plastic around the brass bushings where the bracket bolts go into, if you wire brush around them you can usually see a line going away from the brass grommet in the plastic. Depending on the year and if it is a QF or TF Optima (different plants made them) the recall would replace the canister if cracked, replace the bracket with new bolts and soft washers if it passed, or add that aux canister as seen on this car which would have been installed if it passed when it was in for the recall or recall was not performed correctly.
I agree Danner, no oil changes, no EVAP leaks, no spark plugs. I've owned a Tesla for 3 months now. I used to do all my maintenance, sometimes looking forward to it. But at almost 70 it ain't fun nomow!
Don't forget about the transmission fluid if your model has it
I could watch you guys for hours 😂😂😂 loved the editing!
I got snookered into watching a evap video... loved it lol
This was a great video, thank you both for taking the time and sharing your skills.
Omg you 2 are a comedy show. I love it
My brother is for sure :-) Thanks!
@@ScannerDanner nah mate it is definitely a double act.
Love it you guys.
I agree with the laser being a good light for smoke detection, I use the laser off my Infrared Temp gun for small leaks. Another great vid. 👍
Very Entertaining and Informative as always. Hilarious when he was blowing the cigar smoke.
Hey mate those kia/Hyundai are known to leak from the mounting holes where they pressfit the thread into the canister! Over time the pressfit threads corrode, and expand! Causing the canister to crack and leak!
Let’s make a leak detection pump system that introduces a dozen new potential leaks 🤪
The best SD videos feature Danner!!!!
God bless
Paul (in MA)
Agree!
Is there a scanner that clears individual codes and monitors so you dont have to drive it to reset the monitors?
You guys had me laughing from the thumbnail we hate evap leaks! 🤣🤣🤣
Used to fix a lot of EVAP on VAG group vehicles, most were easy enough with a smoke out but had a couple where the O2 sensor was not detecting the rich mixture once the valve opened, those were a pain to find
Spoke too soon on the evap leak lol. I am in the process of diagnosing an AC fault using your techniques :). Thought it just leaked out some refrigerant so I put the manifold gauges on ready to fill it up and realized the ac clutch isn't kicking on. After hooking my scanner up I noticed the computer was commanding the ac clutch on so that told me the inputs are good and that I needed to look at the outputs. The relay is kicking on so that tells me the ac clutch output to the relay is good and that I need to check for the power, ground, and the pcm telling the ac clutch to turn on at the compressor. If I have that then I need a new compressor/ ac clutch. It took my longer to type this down than it did to go through the thought process in my head, that's how powerful your teachings are :). I'll let you know what the fix ends up being.
For plugging the line like evap I usually use 1/4 inch deep sockets. Just find the right size among the smallest ones and you can always put a hose on the other end.
Great idea! I'll remember that
I’ve been collecting various pieces of canister lines . Both male and female. Every time I replace a canister or a line. I cut off the ends. Similar to making a transducer out of a GM FTPS .
I agree - EVAP sucks! My least favorite system of all of them. Always a PITA. Frustrating, but in the end, we usually win. Nice work, fellas. 👍😎
I have an 02 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4.7L that says P1494 leak detection pump switch or mechanical fault.
What is wrong. I think the LDP is in the rear drivers side behind the rear tire in a rusty box behind wheel well paneling.
I also have a fuel smell on startup but may be unrelated.
I need advice to fix it myself
I was so busy laughing i think i forgot to reply yesterday 😎 thanks for another awesome saturday boys!! Happy Easter Danner clan!!
Good point you make about evs. No evap leaks, no fuel pressure tests, no oil changes, no jobs, no food, no house. Can't wait.
🤣
I love when you guys work together👍
8:10, LOL, the cigar smoke blower.
when testing for ground problems use low voltage scale on meter (not ohm) that loads circuit with voltage .03-.05
I thought he was going to go grab a raytech thermo infrared gun and use it's laser.
He brings out a 380. Frame. 😂🤣
That's classic.
Love the video. Made me laugh.
I forgot about my infrared temp gun!! Next time for sure
Excellent find!! And great teaching for us!!
Hey Paul, you sounded like me when looking for an evap leak on a Subaru a few months ago. Had to drop the rear subframe to get the fuel tank out😖😖😖
I took adaptors from an old transmission flush machine that fit every quick connect hose that I have some across.
Paul you were snookered by your own brother. Super Mario Diagnostics just did a smoke test with a great light. Check it out man. I’m not snookering you it’s a really good light. Oh that’s right your not doing anymore evap leaks Lol. Your brother is great. We all need a good laugh 😊😊 Thanks for sharing. Artie
Using a laser pointer is a great idea, thank u danners👍
Great video guys!
I guarantee you have a laser in your box, I use my laser thermometer
There's a recall for that here in Canada. Former KIA technician here.
Tesla's have transmission fluid Paul! I like watching videos with all the Danner clan at work!! There are good videos on EV vehicles on you tube! Great video guys! Ps. We don't have to worry about evap leaks here in Michigan where I reside ha ha
great video, I keep thinking of purple and Brown now , wahaaay lol.
🤣🤣 yes!
I wanted to laugh at you and I did laugh at you. An EVAP crabby Scanner Danner is a pretty funny Scanner Danner on this side of the screen. But, this reminded me of a Jeep canister and suddenly I'm a little salty. I won't whine too much, but I'll summarize it like this: I lost a fight with the boss over that canister and then lost two fights with the canister itself. Glad to see you won this round.
🤣🤣
Hyundai and Kia seem to get frequent EVAP leaks but they are usually straight forward i Dont mind them but i tracked down a large leak on like an 2010 Mazda something or other not long ago and it had a simple system but the canister and vent vale were above the rear subframe and it was so difficult to get too! Digging through the rust and dirt 😫😫 it sucked! Ford transit vans stink too because they have miles of heat shield
The flashlight sound lol.
Two boys having fun with smoke, haha.
Is the 12 pack of michelob ultra in the back of your truck for dealing with evap's or watching balls drop on the smoke machine ?
🤣🤣
My problem with EV is our shop don't have the equipment or getting us training
Thanks for the evap training
Just like every other change in our field, we really learn about them, when we touch them for the first time.
We both have lots of time to learn. I wouldn't be too concerned
@@ScannerDanner i know but some training from the employer would make the transition a little easier
P0456 is a small leak code, not large leak. Just had one on my Subaru. Looks like the top of my gas tank is starting to rust out. Bad news on a Subaru.
Danner got talked into another evap diag. I got out the popcorn for this one.
Hahahaha. Danner blowing the smoke......hahahahahaha......No one messes with each other better than mechanics.
I wish I had the blood hound skills that you do... thanks for the video
Thanks a lot team Danner 🔩🔧👍☺🏆
Paul is a UA-cam star, all he has to say is I need a gauge for my smoke machine and 50 will show up.. Lolol
I lucked out on an evap leak not long ago. Girlfriends 2015 sorento had the check engine light come on and a code for a large evap leak. With being busy and having a hate for evap leaks I kept putting it off. Then one day a little over three months later the light turned out and all went back to normal. Nice when it fixes itself lol
good things come to those that wait.
Kia tech for about a year. The sorentos have problems with the fuel pump assemblies. It’s usually the one on the passenger side under the second row back seat. But you may as well do both since they are right there. New gaskets and lock rings 👍🏻
4:27 gave me a pretty good chuckle
Awesome video guys keep up the awesome work!
Hi Paul, nice video always enjoy the content and all the step by step troubleshooting videos. Now I have a question about your Merch, Do you have any designs that would have the SD logo and don’t be a parts changer only? I know u have the SD logo ,scanner danner, don’t be a parts changer. Thanks
I'm not sure that I do but we can make whatever you want.
teespring.com/stores/scannerdanner-2
Let me know what particular shirt and what you're looking for.
@@ScannerDanner can you provide me with an email where I can explain how I would like the Merch made? Thanks
The harbor freight magnetic light is so much better than those other lights.
I like the astro light better 😉
Ok. Harbor freight don't have a lot of very good tools, but with that $40 foldable light they've done good.
Use UV Smoke Fluid and a Blacklight! forget about the soap, Any more that is my goto way of checking and it "seems" 90% effective. The last OTC I got had all that, what a game changer.
Im sorry for posting a comment again but its funny as hell...well done.
inspection mirror! not a mirror in sight lol
I like halogen incandescent lights, far easier to see smoke with, than the drab eye piercing white led junk. other than that a nice high power laser(not one that will burn things though lol)
green is probably the best, maybe find some lensing that makes a wider flat spread beam.
LOL, you can drive down the road with a fouled plug and cherry red cat converter and have no PO codes but any little tiny thing with the evap valve will toss an EVAP code right away before you get out of the driveway.
large leak from the cigar
My friend, how are you? I would like to ask my 1996 Jeep Grand Cherokee when examining the computer to check for faults, so that no information appears in the scanner, what is the reason, please.
That year had issues with communication with some OBD2 scan tools. Cycle the key on, off, on, off, on and then count the flashes of the check engine light for codes. They are two digit codes and 55 is the end of the report.
Always educated here. Thanx
Evap leaks suck... duh. Thanks for the video guys
Thank you very much and I am one of your followers and admirers
Hyundai has a recall on some vehicles for the same kind of cracking on the canister
Always start with the flowmeter!
thank you for your tips, and videos!
Thanks for sharing Paul... Cheers.
13:16 to 13:40 is a good commercial for EVs to all technicians
I loved James blowing smoke at you, but I guess that’s nothing new. 🤣🤣
Hi Paul, I have your ebook, and can’t seem to find anything about evap leaks or purge valves , although it was a quick look I would like to learn more, does your book have it
Chapter 3 "Output Solenoids and Transistor Drivers" would cover every single type of purge or vent solenoid testing.
Chapter 8 "Pressure Sensors" would cover your EVAP tank psi sensor
Chaptet 2 "switch inputs" would cover LDP psi switches etc.
To be clear, the above mentioned chapters may not have the specific component you are looking for, but they contain information on how to test ALL of these components on ALL of the cars and on every single system.
Thank you!
@@ScannerDanner thank you
Lazer pointers are good as long as they are green, the other colours don't show up the smoke.
Green only? Noted! Thanks!
@@ScannerDanner yup, green is best. Red and purple struggle and good blue lasers are hard to find, the reason green works is because of a phenomenon known as Rayliegh scattering, also, green lasers are constructed differently and generally emit a stronger, brighter and more dense light, and the human eye is better at picking up green colours in low light conditions.
Thanks again Escanor dinner I love CBD us when you and your brother man it’s nice seeing you guys getting along pretty well very nice this whole brother should be man thank you very much thank you for helping your brother man
Love the videos from your Brothers shop.
Paul, Caleb, Danner, great video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Twice bitten 3 times shy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hilarious!!! I barely fixed a P0456 , a evap code (small leak). Broken gas cap lol. Evap system is kinda fun but I like electricity ⚡️.
You'd like my 1990 Bronco. Its never had an evap code
Priceless....love it!
If Beavis and Butthead grew up to be mechanics.
Hey 👋 Danner brother's love the video's guys .. thanks for sharing 👍
Hey guys thank you for doing this video i have 2011 kia optima i hope i don't have this problem if i do i no what to look for.
Apparently there is a recall for this problem, so you may be in luck
@@ScannerDanner Thanks for heads up .
Danners manual smoke machine was classic
Once again a great /Leak test Show !!!!