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Classic case of not separating the art from the artist. I watched EVERY episode of Mr.Robot over the course of two days. Couldn't sleep. Shit was fantastic.
It's not really that stupid. It's amazing that they even went to that length at all to get the tiny details of the show right. Not knowing it was someone's phone number is an honest mistake. Making your number the solution to a publicly accessible resource is just as stupid if we're being fair.
@@Lolerburger I really dont care about this, they used something for their 120 million dollar budget show without checking entirely what it was and thats just stupid.
@@fabian6087 they did check bud... they just didn't check every single detail down to the nails in the floorboards. Mr robot was literally the most technically accurate show of any hacker show/movie ever. Time to lighten up on the "I'm smarter than everyone" bit.
@@LolerburgerIf I were writing a story and wanted to include something from a paper I read I would at the very least try to reach out to the creator to understand the concept more as to portray it accurately. That is assuming I had the resources that a show like Mr. Robot does.
@@jasonninja55 you'd get fired immediately for wasting time on a detail only 0.01% of people would care about. This is why you don't get anything done and the people you're criticizing make multi-million dollar TV shows.
Not only did they steal the material, they also removed the signature of the puzzle creator. So they knew enough to know what that was and decided it was ok to take it as their own anyway
Chat: "Hey, have you heard CERN finally created a functioning anti-matter generator?" Thor: "Oh, yeah.. Actually, they copied the blueprints and theory from my third-grade science project. Not cool haha.." *Shows proof*
And now years later I'm finding out that Thor was in my life all this time. As Blizzard employee, as Mr. Robot's source material. Hell, maybe my Windows update contains some of his internet security work.
@@spittyjr.2181 If you take the time to remove a watermark, you can take the time to make a phone number no longer work. There's a whole fake area code explicitly for that purpose. Inexcusable.
I think you'd figure out why by the first or second call. "Hello" "I solved the puzzle" "What puz... the one from Defcon? That's over. I mean, good job but there's no prize" "Um... no? The one from Mr. Robot?" "Excuse me?"
For context: The big hack at the end of the show, that was meant to reveal who the big evil guys were, was using the method Thor used, but applied very poorly. It didn’t make much sense in the show, but at that point not much did anyway lol
Haha too true by the end of the show I was half expecting them to go it was all a dream and the main guy was the imaginary friend of some special needs kid 😂
Me: Thinks he will hate it because of technical inaccuracies or because they didn't do their homework Him: Hates it because they _did_ do their homework - by copying his
This guy is making things up. I'm telling you in a year or two some other guy will make video about him how he just makes things up and it's going to be another one of those "OMG HOW COULD HE??!!" moments in youtube creators.
@Diegoshadow85 Late to the party, but all that he said here is public info and can be found a single google search, including most of his achievements. You can still find the perign pages write up he done from defcon which he is referring to.
@@Diegoshadow85 Some people actually have interesting lives. They do things and sometimes things happen around them, or to them that are interesting. I could write a book.
chat: “did you hear about Bob Lazar and the Area 51 reverse engineering projects?” Thor: “yeah not a fan. I worked with the guy. Lazar took my only source of element 115 along with my own personal research spanning 8 decades.”
Firstly, using your phone number as the solution to a publicly accessible puzzle is not a wise decision. Secondly, it appears you overlooked mentioning that the puzzlemaster served as a creative consultant for the show. I enjoy your shorts, but it's peculiar that you omitted the fact that the puzzlemaster was actually involved in the show's production.
@@sivadirective9060 they had a team of consultants in season 2, including people who worked on DEFCON I believe (i.e the guy who founded DEFCON and the head of security at DEFCON). They tweeted something about it when the episode aired, the puzzlemaster tweeted back that he loved the show, thought it was cool they used his puzzle, and said not to harass or hate them for using his puzzle. He then joined them as a consultant.
Not a bad idea. I went on to win at DC 23, 24, and 25. Two for Cryptography and one for Telephreaking. A video talking about it all would be fun to do honestly.
@@PirateSoftware Are you kidding me? That is insane. That is three different video ideas. Regardless if you do individual videos, creating a general videos describing your methodology, work progress, feeling, and overall experience participating in the DEFCON challenges.
Forgot to mention that the maker of the puzzle was a creative consultant for the show and the phone number was just a pre-recorded tune player meant to get calls.
@@ElmoLahtiJust looked it up. This story is actually hilarious. The puzzle is from s2 ep11 and yes Thor did do a write up of how to solve it, and I believe him when that's probably the only source. So yes the original creator of the puzzle did work on the show, but he only worked on it AFTER his puzzle was featured (likely he was on season 3 because there's a twitter post announcing he's working on one of the writers after the season 2. Also there's a reddit post from his account saying he controls the number and he doesn't work for the show.). The funny thing is he does control the number, and likely it's not his main cell but he does get calls occasionally and he answers it sometimes to troll people. He then made mr robot themed ARGs, so he took it pretty well in the end.
Yeah its weird that Kor Adana (Technical Lead on the show) never reached out with the DEFCON puzzlemaster or this dude to ask about the contents of the puzzle. Definitely dumb to do. But this is a valuable lesson to the puzzlemaster to not put your personal phone number as part of the puzzle.
@@DeathnoteBB Except the show never actually completed the entire puzzle, the write up which was public was the only likely way people could've completed the puzzle and found the puzzlemaster's number. This also wouldn't have been a problem if the puzzlemaster used a burner phone for the event instead of the personal cell phone number, but still I'm just considering both sides, you don't need to be so hostile about it
This seems factually dubious. The guy that created the Defcon 22 puzzle, LosT AKA Ryan Clarke, was a consultant for Mr. Robot. It seems more likely that he gave them the puzzle idea, not that they stole it from your writeup. How is the only source of that knowledge your writeup when the "puzzlemaster" was a consultant on the show? Certainly he had that knowledge as well?
@@Jason17300 And a million NPC-fans brough here by YT shorts algorithm that will idolize and defend him without even trying to fact check anything he says. Literally every one of his shorts I see, according to all the comments: (deep voice + confidence) x (common sense) = Profound Knowledge
People are so weirdly possessive of "their" work. IP is trash and all information should be freely available to all. We shouldn't need to commodify information or art to live comfortable and happy lives.
@@poiu477 thats argument that uncreative people and people that never came up with anything like to use. On the other hand, if you came up with something and you have to pay someone, because they came with exact, or almost same thing before you did, that is really bs.
@@poiu477 for a show as big as mr. robot, i don’t think it compares to some forum or github info some guy is using on his school project. he’s not even asking for money, he just wanted credit lmao
@@TheImmilky when I make something I’m proud of I want as many people to see it/use it as possible. I don’t care if I’m compensated or recognized for it, the creation itself and bringing it into the world is enough of a reward.
Hey Thor, are you gonna mention how the puzzle master of that year, LosT, worked on Mr. Robot? And are you gonna mention that viewers calling Mr. Robot got a different message than the defcon puzzle? And that it’s not his personal phone, but a specific server for this exact purpose?
Are you gonna mention that the solution was taken from Thor's writeup, which was the only source for that, without crediting or asking him and from the puzzle master, without crediting or asking them AFTER removing their alias from the end solution? Are you also going to mention that the puzzle solution was featured in s2, but the puzzle maker consulted s3 in what, to the outside looked like "don't be mad at us, take this consulting contract instead" -deal.
@TealJosh I know explaining shit dilutes how funny it is, but have to state that I do love how the guy is so confident in his "gotcha" that he uses an annoying snarky "are you gonna mention that".." when stating that the puzzle maker was a consultant on the show. Then you show how little he knows, that the puzzle actually appears in a Season 2 episode, and the puzzle maker was only hired as a consultant during Season 3.. and his tweets during the initial Season 2 airing clearly show that they didn't consult (or even INFORM him). So, obviously, hiring and crediting the puzzle maker AFTER the fact was an attempt to appease him so he didn't take action against them, fortunately he was cool with it.. yet Thor isn't credited for the solution either. And you started it by returning the annoying "are you gonna mention" XD
Dark tangent, a prominent technical advisor for the show, is the founder of Defcon. The Mr. Robot badge at Defcon 26 was an indie badge, not the official badge.
He has 3 Defcon Black Badges, which is one of the highest awards a team or individual can get at Defcon. I have zero issues believing a show about hacking used some info from one of his reports without asking. It is possible however that they got the same info from someone else that was there and not his report. It could have been a "this one time at Defcon" story and they just ran with it.
Wtf!? That's a pretty awful doxx. I just didn't like how there wasn't any time travel. I seriously thought the whole thing was leading up to a time travel device, but it just turns out that I'm the voice in his head and I went away because I was molested. Man that really pisses me off.
After the pilot of Mr. Robot aired, a lot of cybersecurity people were hired, and by season 2 this included the founder and director of DEF CON and Black Hat Briefings, as well as DEF CON's head of security. When this episode aired, the head of that team posted "Who caught the @defcon 22 badge challenge reference in tonight's episode? Thank you to @thedarktangent and @1o57" (@thedarktangent being Jeff Moss, founder and director of DEF CON) To which 1o57 replied, "I'm flattered, and I really enjoy the show. It's ok guys, no need to attack @KorAdana he is doing a great job." Given they had access to the director of the conference, thought the puzzle was cool, put it in, and credited the guy who made it (who okayed it and went on to also consult for the show), what right does a guy who solved it have to be mad over it the puzzle being used?
also I've read in these comments that that number wasn't the personal phone number of 1o57, but a number that he controlled. I don't know why Thor thinks it's his personal number, since he worked to solve the puzzle, and in that puzzle when you called the number it played piano notes you had to decode (The part in the show was just step 1 of many). Got that information from his write up btw! Had to make sure to credit him so he doesn't come for me next
@@joeiechristiansantana9641 Absolutely, I was just expecting something like "the way they did this hack is unrealistic". Not something this involved and connected to real life
except it WASN’T the “personal” cell phone number of the challenge author, and (according to their Instagram bio) the challenge author was a CONSULTANT for the show. an Instagram bio is not definitive proof of anything, obviously, but a pretty big detail to leave out of this short.
Read other comments and replies the dude was a consultant in season 3 not when the puzzle was aired and the phone was one of his side numbers Thor was wrong about it being his personal number more like a secondary but he did deal with the phone calls
@@1993rnicholson This wasn’t mentioned in any replies I saw. Despite that it doesn’t mean they didn’t have his permission, if they had him consult for S3 they could easily have already asked him beforehand. Is there any actual proof that they didn’t ask AND that it was a problem for him (the two claims in this short?) This streamer claims to know all these people, but then doesn’t disclose that he was a consultant in his story. So either he knew that and lied by omission, or he’s not as close to these people as he’s letting on. There’s no way you’d know the rest of this story and not know that detail.
@@frydegz true but I trust Thor enough to give him enough credit to get passed the more dubious aspects of the story and most of the arguments against him in this comments section just dont hang together properly with even a basic look at the evidence and that doesn't touch on the butthurt fans
Isn't it on you though? You decided to have a writeup that included the personal number of that guy, unless it was a private piece of paper that they stole, I fail to see why it's their problem though! And I have no opinion on the show, never seen it, just that this seems like textbook human factor security fail
There's an animation on UA-cam that's really popular and at one point a character writes down a phone number as a gag. People thought this must be an Easter egg and started calling the number. Here it's a number to an electrician who doesn't know why he is getting all these calls. What happened to the good ol days of just having numbers be 555-555-5555?
Didnt got too far on programing but: The puzzlemaster gives you or want you to find something, in this case the number. You cant just redact the number because the code itself somehow should give you the number. (I might be completly wrong, after all i failed that carrer but i tried)
It's like Getting Over It gives you a direct dm to the creator when you complete it, it's a fun thing when it's limited. It's not supposed to go out to everyone, and if they'd checked the answer it would have been obvious.
The answers here are silly. There's no shot he was forced to use his phone number in the first place, it's kind of a silly idea if you're later going to post it
It’s almost like they used publicly available information when researching a show about opsec. How dare they use the work I contributed to the community. What scum. I’m better than them
The thing about publicly available information is - you still have to credit the people who created it. Otherwise it's called plagiarism. This is especially problematic when you're making money based on said plagiarized information.
True. But maybe don't make the solution to a puzzle that may pass through hundreds or thousands of hands and be accessible to the public, your PERSONAL CELL NUMBER.
see this is the issue, defcon was and is still a small niche mr robot is a popular show, known by WAY more than those who knew about defcon, and those who knew about this puzzle so yea this didn't pass any real hands until m r robot lifted it from him, and choose to go with it despite not realizing what the puzzle had in it. I mean my point is the majority didn't know about it until they took it, the majority didn't even know it existed until now
I mean, rightfully so. All coders give credit or link back to where they got work from. In fact most shows and films have a process where if they use anything they have to get it okayed by the people behind it. The fact that Thor et al were not credited is surprising.
He talks about it like it was a major screw-up from the tv show, but considering the founder of def con was a consultant on the show, it seems like a deliberate treasure hunt set up interested watchers. I get that you'd be pissed for not being in on it, but seems like you are misrepresenting the situation here big time.
Using someone else's work without notifying them at all is morally and legally dubious.. And the fact that they didn't even change his number is pretty negligent.. The fact that it was "submitted freely for an event" doesn't matter at all... It was submitted for one purpose.. which didn't include mass distribution. Because HAD the original intent been mass distribution, or had they even notified him beforehand about their intent, he probably would have asked that some things be changed like say... his phone number.
Just because someone is a consultant doesn’t mean they were consulted. The live action dragon ball movie had the OG creator on as a consultant and I dare you to ask any dragon ball fan how that went. The live action dumpster fire they call avatar the last air bender had the creators as consultants and look how that turned out. Having someone as a consultant doesn’t mean shit
"I'm gonna leave it at that"
**goes into explicit and personal detail why he fucking hates Mr. Robot**
Guy's a muppet.
Classic case of not separating the art from the artist.
I watched EVERY episode of Mr.Robot over the course of two days. Couldn't sleep. Shit was fantastic.
@@stevenhetzel6483 Who asked
@@Kirbyterasu who needs to? dude was on topic lol go touch grass
@@dilutedskiff6840 "touch grass" is not the scathing catch-all you think it is
Bro how many side quests has this guy done
You don't understand bro, he's creating new side quests as we speak
120% speedrun
A lot. Including hacking power plants for the government
Yes
He his the dragonborn
"I don't like Mr. Robot. I'm just going to leave it at that."
> elaborate further
> doesn't leave
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Full release male
thought the exact same XD so funny
@@wydua2049that's a new one and quite funny
>seated
This went from "He's just saying that, how bad could it be" to "oh it's legitimately stupid" really quick.
It's not really that stupid. It's amazing that they even went to that length at all to get the tiny details of the show right. Not knowing it was someone's phone number is an honest mistake. Making your number the solution to a publicly accessible resource is just as stupid if we're being fair.
@@Lolerburger I really dont care about this, they used something for their 120 million dollar budget show without checking entirely what it was and thats just stupid.
@@fabian6087 they did check bud... they just didn't check every single detail down to the nails in the floorboards. Mr robot was literally the most technically accurate show of any hacker show/movie ever. Time to lighten up on the "I'm smarter than everyone" bit.
@@LolerburgerIf I were writing a story and wanted to include something from a paper I read I would at the very least try to reach out to the creator to understand the concept more as to portray it accurately. That is assuming I had the resources that a show like Mr. Robot does.
@@jasonninja55 you'd get fired immediately for wasting time on a detail only 0.01% of people would care about. This is why you don't get anything done and the people you're criticizing make multi-million dollar TV shows.
Not only did they steal the material, they also removed the signature of the puzzle creator. So they knew enough to know what that was and decided it was ok to take it as their own anyway
Tv show companies stealing stuff?
What a surprise.
Disney has Literally stolen every new star wars ship design from various fans.
To be fair his username literally tells people to steal material that isn’t theirs.
@@pogolaugh the irony lolol
@@pogolaugh
There's quite a difference between pirating for private use vs broadcasting it to the world
@@Fapjockey101maybe you understand why pirating sucks now
Imagine being so legendary that TV shows steal from something you did for fun.
honesty happens to me all the time
@@koaglidesame
@@koaglidesame
Einstein copied from me.
@@HoushouRattengodsame
Chat: "Hey, have you heard CERN finally created a functioning anti-matter generator?"
Thor: "Oh, yeah.. Actually, they copied the blueprints and theory from my third-grade science project. Not cool haha.." *Shows proof*
Is this a meme or did this happen lol
@@dylan62821Meme but at this point it could be real, let's be honest. Thor has done so much sidequests :D
@@dylan62821 yes, it's real. He did, in fact, blueprint an anti-matter generator at 9 years old.
Did they get the Blueprints for the time machine as well? Or they messed up and turn people into Jello?
They gave themselves the blueprints for the time machine that they got from themselves after they gave them to themselves.
And now years later I'm finding out that Thor was in my life all this time. As Blizzard employee, as Mr. Robot's source material. Hell, maybe my Windows update contains some of his internet security work.
Unironically very likely
And the son of the Warcraft guy from South Park
Maybe he is even your father 🤔
Mr. Spectre
The lore of this man is even deeper then the Marian trench
Could you imagine the new episode drops and within an hour or two you’re just getting thousands of phone calls and you have no idea why..
Lawsuit time!
once i found out i'd have answered each call and just said horrible horrible things to the people so the show gets bad reviews lol
They actually removed the puzzle watermark or something so they knew what they were doing according to some comment.
@@spittyjr.2181 If you take the time to remove a watermark, you can take the time to make a phone number no longer work. There's a whole fake area code explicitly for that purpose. Inexcusable.
I think you'd figure out why by the first or second call.
"Hello"
"I solved the puzzle"
"What puz... the one from Defcon? That's over. I mean, good job but there's no prize"
"Um... no? The one from Mr. Robot?"
"Excuse me?"
Legends say he did not, in fact, "leave it at that"
Only Hero's "leave it at that", which is why Hero's prosper, but Legends never die.
Cheesy, sure, but I still enjoyed it.
For context: The big hack at the end of the show, that was meant to reveal who the big evil guys were, was using the method Thor used, but applied very poorly. It didn’t make much sense in the show, but at that point not much did anyway lol
Haha too true by the end of the show I was half expecting them to go it was all a dream and the main guy was the imaginary friend of some special needs kid 😂
Thanks for explaining, I have never seen the show.
Is this from Thor or your guess?
I figured it was the steel mountain bit.
I'm pretty sure Thor's been to iron mountain before 😂😂😂
Last season was ass, but I liked the rest.
It took a nosedive after season 2
Me: Thinks he will hate it because of technical inaccuracies or because they didn't do their homework
Him: Hates it because they _did_ do their homework - by copying his
The worst way to do your homework: cheating.
Plagerism is bad, mmkay?
Other than this, the show is actually really well made but I understand why you would be pretty pissed at the show
Totally agreed!
It soured it completely for me.
@@mnywisesounds more like plagiarism than hacking to me 🤷♂️
@@mnywisehacking isn’t the same as plagiarism you donut
i hate people that delete their comments and leave a hole to fill
@@zawadlttv fr bro but at least they know what they commented was shit
"I'm just gonna leave it at that"
*Proceeds to not just leave it at that* 😂
He went full Kanye lmao
He wanted to leave it at that but the desire to brag was too strong lolol
This guy is making things up. I'm telling you in a year or two some other guy will make video about him how he just makes things up and it's going to be another one of those "OMG HOW COULD HE??!!" moments in youtube creators.
@@Diegoshadow85Interesting. You don't have any examples where you can prove he's lying, right?
@Diegoshadow85 Late to the party, but all that he said here is public info and can be found a single google search, including most of his achievements. You can still find the perign pages write up he done from defcon which he is referring to.
@@Diegoshadow85 Some people actually have interesting lives. They do things and sometimes things happen around them, or to them that are interesting. I could write a book.
chat: “did you hear about Bob Lazar and the Area 51 reverse engineering projects?”
Thor: “yeah not a fan. I worked with the guy. Lazar took my only source of element 115 along with my own personal research spanning 8 decades.”
What has Moscovio to do with that
@@Anankin12 It is not naturally found on earth but is apparently used in anti-gravity (probably a lie)
Him and his dad are the main characters, they just are apart of everything
“Let’s not ask the dude what’s the puzzles mean so we can get away with plagiarism”
*doxes puzzle master*
Hopefully there was some sort of blowback from that, to at the very least prevent that from happening again.
Thor probably shouldn’t have put a real phone number in at a hacker convention… lesson learned.
@@sygishthor wasnt the one who did it. it was the puzzlemaster who did.
“Opsec expert” -puts personal phone number in defcon puzzle 😂
Firstly, using your phone number as the solution to a publicly accessible puzzle is not a wise decision. Secondly, it appears you overlooked mentioning that the puzzlemaster served as a creative consultant for the show. I enjoy your shorts, but it's peculiar that you omitted the fact that the puzzlemaster was actually involved in the show's production.
He wouldn't be able to tell this story if he mentioned that fact.
Thanks for the extra context.
The puzzlemaster was brought on as a consultant for season 3, this incident happened during season 2. They brought him in after this went down.
@@sivadirective9060 its theoretically possible they were in talks beforehand? i dunno
@@sivadirective9060 they had a team of consultants in season 2, including people who worked on DEFCON I believe (i.e the guy who founded DEFCON and the head of security at DEFCON). They tweeted something about it when the episode aired, the puzzlemaster tweeted back that he loved the show, thought it was cool they used his puzzle, and said not to harass or hate them for using his puzzle. He then joined them as a consultant.
Hey, i just read your tumblr post. Incredible. You should totally do a video explaining this whole situation. Completing the Defcon badge.
Not a bad idea.
I went on to win at DC 23, 24, and 25.
Two for Cryptography and one for Telephreaking.
A video talking about it all would be fun to do honestly.
@@PirateSoftware Are you kidding me? That is insane. That is three different video ideas. Regardless if you do individual videos, creating a general videos describing your methodology, work progress, feeling, and overall experience participating in the DEFCON challenges.
I don’t understand, are you planning on making a video explaining it still?
I end up talking about it on stream pretty much daily.
UA-cam is secondary content to my livestreams on Twitch so I don't plan a lot of videos.
Yes. I need the strory need the contex. Don't know what words to google to find ouy, even if it would find anything.
Forgot to mention that the maker of the puzzle was a creative consultant for the show and the phone number was just a pre-recorded tune player meant to get calls.
Is this true? That would be quite embarrassing for the uploader here.
Thank you. Mr Robot's thing was that they prided themselves on getting multiple consultants from the hacking sphere.
He was not a consultant on the show at the time they released the tweet. He was brought on after the fact as part of the damage control.
@@MrGeocym
Where's your proof he wasn't a consultant at the time?
And what damage control? Did you watch the show?
@@ElmoLahtiJust looked it up. This story is actually hilarious. The puzzle is from s2 ep11 and yes Thor did do a write up of how to solve it, and I believe him when that's probably the only source.
So yes the original creator of the puzzle did work on the show, but he only worked on it AFTER his puzzle was featured (likely he was on season 3 because there's a twitter post announcing he's working on one of the writers after the season 2. Also there's a reddit post from his account saying he controls the number and he doesn't work for the show.).
The funny thing is he does control the number, and likely it's not his main cell but he does get calls occasionally and he answers it sometimes to troll people. He then made mr robot themed ARGs, so he took it pretty well in the end.
This man's lore runs deeper than the mariana trench.
a classical whoopie daisy. this is hilarious, and what they did was hilariously awful
Yeah its weird that Kor Adana (Technical Lead on the show) never reached out with the DEFCON puzzlemaster or this dude to ask about the contents of the puzzle. Definitely dumb to do. But this is a valuable lesson to the puzzlemaster to not put your personal phone number as part of the puzzle.
@@L_Lawliet1907 oh god shut up
@@L_Lawliet1907Tf are you talking about? It wouldn’t have ever been a problem if nobody stole the write-up.
@@DeathnoteBB Except the show never actually completed the entire puzzle, the write up which was public was the only likely way people could've completed the puzzle and found the puzzlemaster's number.
This also wouldn't have been a problem if the puzzlemaster used a burner phone for the event instead of the personal cell phone number, but still I'm just considering both sides, you don't need to be so hostile about it
@@L_Lawliet1907 LMAO what was at all “hostile” about anything I said? 😂
He did not leave it at that
This seems factually dubious. The guy that created the Defcon 22 puzzle, LosT AKA Ryan Clarke, was a consultant for Mr. Robot. It seems more likely that he gave them the puzzle idea, not that they stole it from your writeup.
How is the only source of that knowledge your writeup when the "puzzlemaster" was a consultant on the show? Certainly he had that knowledge as well?
You’re ignoring the fact that this guy has a huge ego.
@The_Real_Oppai_Sama He's not gonna fuck you, dude.
@@Jason17300 And a million NPC-fans brough here by YT shorts algorithm that will idolize and defend him without even trying to fact check anything he says.
Literally every one of his shorts I see, according to all the comments:
(deep voice + confidence) x (common sense) = Profound Knowledge
@@BL00DYME55 this dude writes "MONEY = $" in mspaint and his sycophants jack him off over it
Well, the puzzlemaster would know his own phone number, yes.. Are you simple? lmao
"I'm just gonna leave it at that..."
So anyway, here's a detailed explanation of what happened.
Gotta love the irony of the channel name.
maybe don't put your personal cellphone number as the solution to a problem thousands of hackers are going to tackle anyway.
"as [someone in this community] what do you think about [person]."
"I have beef with [person]"
It’s still a great show and quite possibly the greatest ending to any show.
My brother, Thor, you have had a hell of a life lmao
me thinking he doesn’t like the plot: pretty fair
drops the fact that they used his work without credit: oh
People are so weirdly possessive of "their" work. IP is trash and all information should be freely available to all. We shouldn't need to commodify information or art to live comfortable and happy lives.
@@poiu477 thats argument that uncreative people and people that never came up with anything like to use. On the other hand, if you came up with something and you have to pay someone, because they came with exact, or almost same thing before you did, that is really bs.
@@poiu477 for a show as big as mr. robot, i don’t think it compares to some forum or github info some guy is using on his school project. he’s not even asking for money, he just wanted credit lmao
@@poiu477 tell me you never made anything you were proud of without telling me
Also, that's a thief mentality.
@@TheImmilky when I make something I’m proud of I want as many people to see it/use it as possible. I don’t care if I’m compensated or recognized for it, the creation itself and bringing it into the world is enough of a reward.
He does not leave it at that
And when that person called begging thor to make it stop. Thor probably would respond with "dont touch my shit" and hangs up lol
Hey Thor, are you gonna mention how the puzzle master of that year, LosT, worked on Mr. Robot? And are you gonna mention that viewers calling Mr. Robot got a different message than the defcon puzzle? And that it’s not his personal phone, but a specific server for this exact purpose?
But then he wouldn't be able to brag and virtue signal...
Are you gonna mention that the solution was taken from Thor's writeup, which was the only source for that, without crediting or asking him and from the puzzle master, without crediting or asking them AFTER removing their alias from the end solution? Are you also going to mention that the puzzle solution was featured in s2, but the puzzle maker consulted s3 in what, to the outside looked like "don't be mad at us, take this consulting contract instead" -deal.
Of course he's not, because he's an attention-seeking child.
@@TealJosh but if the person who actualy made the puzzle was a consultant on the show would they realy need thor's writeup?
@TealJosh I know explaining shit dilutes how funny it is, but have to state that I do love how the guy is so confident in his "gotcha" that he uses an annoying snarky "are you gonna mention that".." when stating that the puzzle maker was a consultant on the show.
Then you show how little he knows, that the puzzle actually appears in a Season 2 episode, and the puzzle maker was only hired as a consultant during Season 3.. and his tweets during the initial Season 2 airing clearly show that they didn't consult (or even INFORM him).
So, obviously, hiring and crediting the puzzle maker AFTER the fact was an attempt to appease him so he didn't take action against them, fortunately he was cool with it.. yet Thor isn't credited for the solution either.
And you started it by returning the annoying "are you gonna mention" XD
100% true! If I would use things from the series, I would be copyright slammed instant by them.
Pretty sure that's basically USA Network copyrighting you not the show. Unfortunately they are pretty tight on stuff like that
Yeah, copyright is super lame
Yeah I’ve seen some great edits get removed. Which sucks because there really are some masterclass episodes
so? that doesn't make them right. All IP is trash and should be freely distributed.
You don't honestly believe this guy, right? Lmao
the delivery of "idiots" was flawless
The show is however phenomenal.
People see ten digits and they will try calling it
The irony that DefCon 26 had Mr. Robot badges...
I mean, the dude Thor’s talking about had worked on the show by then. I’d be surprised if they did not.
Dark tangent, a prominent technical advisor for the show, is the founder of Defcon. The Mr. Robot badge at Defcon 26 was an indie badge, not the official badge.
his dad-lore is unbeatable
Puzzle guy that got all the calls should sue.
Now i have to rewatch mr robot to see what he is talking about here lol
Dude got the whole ‘I have a girlfriend now, but you won’t know her, she goes to a different school’ vibes down to a tee
He has 3 Defcon Black Badges, which is one of the highest awards a team or individual can get at Defcon. I have zero issues believing a show about hacking used some info from one of his reports without asking. It is possible however that they got the same info from someone else that was there and not his report. It could have been a "this one time at Defcon" story and they just ran with it.
His sources for this are linked and available in the info of the short
Wtf!? That's a pretty awful doxx. I just didn't like how there wasn't any time travel. I seriously thought the whole thing was leading up to a time travel device, but it just turns out that I'm the voice in his head and I went away because I was molested. Man that really pisses me off.
After the pilot of Mr. Robot aired, a lot of cybersecurity people were hired, and by season 2 this included the founder and director of DEF CON and Black Hat Briefings, as well as DEF CON's head of security. When this episode aired, the head of that team posted "Who caught the @defcon 22 badge challenge reference in tonight's episode? Thank you to @thedarktangent and @1o57" (@thedarktangent being Jeff Moss, founder and director of DEF CON) To which 1o57 replied, "I'm flattered, and I really enjoy the show. It's ok guys, no need to attack @KorAdana he is doing a great job." Given they had access to the director of the conference, thought the puzzle was cool, put it in, and credited the guy who made it (who okayed it and went on to also consult for the show), what right does a guy who solved it have to be mad over it the puzzle being used?
also I've read in these comments that that number wasn't the personal phone number of 1o57, but a number that he controlled. I don't know why Thor thinks it's his personal number, since he worked to solve the puzzle, and in that puzzle when you called the number it played piano notes you had to decode (The part in the show was just step 1 of many).
Got that information from his write up btw! Had to make sure to credit him so he doesn't come for me next
Maybe don’t make your personal cell phone number the key to a puzzle
Engagement
The karma got real so quick :,)
Give the man some freaking credit that's what credited is for he did answer the question fairly accurate yes
If you're going to steal a riddle, you should understand it well enough to rewrite it.
OK I was expecting factual criticism not a personal beef 😂
To be fair, it's a bit doxx-y. It's literally someone's phone number.
@@joeiechristiansantana9641 Absolutely, I was just expecting something like "the way they did this hack is unrealistic". Not something this involved and connected to real life
you didn't leef it at that
I really hope that individual took the producers to court in some way for publishing their personal information
Still the best show I’ve ever watched.
Sorry to hear that
Pray for your recovery black queen 💅💅💅
Thats because you havent watched breaking bad yet
@@albertosalash.3834ive watched both and i can confidentally say that mr robot is better but its just my opinion though
@@Negan-lo7yr I can't take someone who says Prison Break is their favorite show seriously.
except it WASN’T the “personal” cell phone number of the challenge author, and (according to their Instagram bio) the challenge author was a CONSULTANT for the show. an Instagram bio is not definitive proof of anything, obviously, but a pretty big detail to leave out of this short.
Read other comments and replies the dude was a consultant in season 3 not when the puzzle was aired and the phone was one of his side numbers Thor was wrong about it being his personal number more like a secondary but he did deal with the phone calls
@@1993rnicholson This wasn’t mentioned in any replies I saw. Despite that it doesn’t mean they didn’t have his permission, if they had him consult for S3 they could easily have already asked him beforehand.
Is there any actual proof that they didn’t ask AND that it was a problem for him (the two claims in this short?)
This streamer claims to know all these people, but then doesn’t disclose that he was a consultant in his story. So either he knew that and lied by omission, or he’s not as close to these people as he’s letting on. There’s no way you’d know the rest of this story and not know that detail.
@@frydegz true but I trust Thor enough to give him enough credit to get passed the more dubious aspects of the story and most of the arguments against him in this comments section just dont hang together properly with even a basic look at the evidence and that doesn't touch on the butthurt fans
This dude is EVERYWHERE and in EVERYTHING.
There are making shadows on a cave wall and then there's tracing.
But... You didn't answer. You just expressed your personal feelings. How ACCURATE is the show?
Isn't it on you though? You decided to have a writeup that included the personal number of that guy, unless it was a private piece of paper that they stole, I fail to see why it's their problem though!
And I have no opinion on the show, never seen it, just that this seems like textbook human factor security fail
Because it’s rather standard practice in the industry that if you are going to use someone’s work that you give credit or ask first.
@@mrbubbles6468 I feel like Galf doesn't understand what plagiarism is.
Beyond legendary wtf
Thought he was gonna give a normal reason like "The coding isn't accurate."... Then I was reminded that this is Thor we're talking about.
the lore gets deeper..
Always love your insights! Hope to see many more in the future
DT was one of the consultants of the show, so he was most likely the source of the writers using that information.
so the answer is: very accurate
maybe too accurate.
He did not make that puzzle. He solved it and coauthored an article about it. The puzzle's creator worked as a consultant to Mr. Robot.
After this situation sounds like he got bought
To be fair, there is nothing more accurate than shamelessly stealing code you found online barely knowing what it does or how it works
Dont use your personal cell phone number at a major event if you dont want calls.
As "an Opsec specialist" maybe...
... don't give your phone number away?
sounds like it was pretty accurate
The irony of working opsec and then using his personal number as the answer to a puzzle... you deserve that... lol
There's an animation on UA-cam that's really popular and at one point a character writes down a phone number as a gag. People thought this must be an Easter egg and started calling the number. Here it's a number to an electrician who doesn't know why he is getting all these calls. What happened to the good ol days of just having numbers be 555-555-5555?
I can honestly say out of all the people I watch content from your the only one I can say I'd enjoy to talk with in person
i haven seen multiple shorts from you by now, and i get a little center of the universe vibes ngl
fr bro thinks hes the real shit, not to mention the "Im just gonna leave it at that"
He kind of is.
_He did not, in fact, leave it at that_
sounds like a love letter.
When a blizzard employee finishes all side quests and gets job as epic NPC with hella lore
You're wrong! How can clowns have shoes if they don't have feet!!
Perhaps it wasn't very smart to let his phone be the solution to a puzzle he released to hackers in the first place.
I mean, it was only to the people there at the time originaly.
Being used in a widely watched show was not forseen
While all the calls must've been annoying..... Having a puzzle you created on national TV must've felt awesome.....
me when I hear john wick being called baba yaga
Are you saying.. you didn't redact a phone number in a publically accessible writeup? That doesn't seem right. How did this actually happen?
Didnt got too far on programing but:
The puzzlemaster gives you or want you to find something, in this case the number. You cant just redact the number because the code itself somehow should give you the number.
(I might be completly wrong, after all i failed that carrer but i tried)
correct me if i'm wrong, but i assumed the phone number was the answer. he can't exactly submit a writeup without the answer, no?
It's like Getting Over It gives you a direct dm to the creator when you complete it, it's a fun thing when it's limited. It's not supposed to go out to everyone, and if they'd checked the answer it would have been obvious.
The answers here are silly. There's no shot he was forced to use his phone number in the first place, it's kind of a silly idea if you're later going to post it
It was a puzzle. The solution to the puzzle was a phone number. Not possible to redact
your level of ptettyness makes me wanna follow / learn directly from you hahah. reminds me of myself dude
He really is just the guy who knows everybody I feel like.
"Who's that guy up there with Dave"
"i am just going to leave it at that..." right.
How does his head fit through the door?
Wait a minute. Information is meant to be free. Did you publish your article with a restrictive license?
No. But most people know to credit where they get stuff from if they do take it.
You know you were destined for it all when your randomly assigned phone number is the solution to a defcon problem
That sounds like karma on steroids!
Crazy!
It’s almost like they used publicly available information when researching a show about opsec. How dare they use the work I contributed to the community. What scum. I’m better than them
The thing about publicly available information is - you still have to credit the people who created it. Otherwise it's called plagiarism. This is especially problematic when you're making money based on said plagiarized information.
True. But maybe don't make the solution to a puzzle that may pass through hundreds or thousands of hands and be accessible to the public, your PERSONAL CELL NUMBER.
see this is the issue, defcon was and is still a small niche
mr robot is a popular show, known by WAY more than those who knew about defcon, and those who knew about this puzzle
so yea this didn't pass any real hands until m r robot lifted it from him, and choose to go with it despite not realizing what the puzzle had in it.
I mean my point is the majority didn't know about it until they took it, the majority didn't even know it existed until now
maybe dont put your personal phone number as the answer to a puzzle lmaooooo
Thor: Infosec is about information sharing
Mr. Robot writers: okay
Thor: Not like that
I mean, rightfully so.
All coders give credit or link back to where they got work from.
In fact most shows and films have a process where if they use anything they have to get it okayed by the people behind it.
The fact that Thor et al were not credited is surprising.
He talks about it like it was a major screw-up from the tv show, but considering the founder of def con was a consultant on the show, it seems like a deliberate treasure hunt set up interested watchers. I get that you'd be pissed for not being in on it, but seems like you are misrepresenting the situation here big time.
Exactly, it’s was something submitted freely to an event
Using someone else's work without notifying them at all is morally and legally dubious.. And the fact that they didn't even change his number is pretty negligent..
The fact that it was "submitted freely for an event" doesn't matter at all... It was submitted for one purpose.. which didn't include mass distribution. Because HAD the original intent been mass distribution, or had they even notified him beforehand about their intent, he probably would have asked that some things be changed like say... his phone number.
@@lucasaustin9872 Welcome to "Fine print"
Just because someone is a consultant doesn’t mean they were consulted. The live action dragon ball movie had the OG creator on as a consultant and I dare you to ask any dragon ball fan how that went. The live action dumpster fire they call avatar the last air bender had the creators as consultants and look how that turned out. Having someone as a consultant doesn’t mean shit
@@lucasaustin9872Lmfao 😂 someone doesn’t understand public domain laws.
Mr robot was just fight club without the fighting
Source: trust me
Source: he's an opsec specialist who won multiple competitions in cryptography, what are you on about bro lol
@@Jimey28 So that's why I have to dislike Mr. Robot
@@Jimey28he did a write-up on his blog and he's mad that it got used? This is what internet fame does to a man's ego.
Source: it’s him. He’s the source. He did it. Literally primary source.
@@Max.98He's not telling you to do anything.
still the best show every aired on television