So What Is Goofy Anyway? - Eddache
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Ngl I always thought of Goofy as a cow, because of Marry moo-cow already being a toon.
You should talk about what kind of animal the Animaniacs are
Hey you should be arrested next year
@@sollunadonis1995 I think they're rabbits.
There’s actually a Donald Duck comic that kinda explains this perfectly. In said comic, another one of Donald’s relatives (can’t remember who) says they’re “going duck hunting!” with Donald responding with “But why me?! This is followed with “Not you! I mean ducks!” Which implies that for the most part, the entire animal kingdom still exists, but there are anthropomorphic “domesticated” creatures. Which explains why there’s still realistic dogs and birds. There’s also a Mickey comic where Minnie is terrified of a mouse.
An age-old question finally answered, but at the cost of being able to sleep at night.
Of all the things to tackle this idea, I still think Legends Of Chima handled it the best. Some animals gained the ability to walk, talk and act like humans, but others remained animals. It’s as simple as that!
You got the quote slightly wrong.
(Unknown relative): "Hi, Don! I'm goin' duck hunting!"
Donald: "But why *me?* I'm *Domesticated!* "
(Unknown relative): "Not you! I mean *real* ducks!"
Whitch both answers questions and rases more...
think of it like they're monkeys to humans.
@@TheBadlandsSandvich I simplified it, okay?
i don’t understand why people get their knickers in a twist over Furry Confusion
humans coexist with other less-developed primates
When I was a little kid, I once asked my parents what Goofy was. So they looked it up online, and told me he was a "Hybrid Man-Dog." Ever since then, that's what I've always thought of the Goof as.
Actually i Always thought he was a Tasmania devil
He is a Goofy
That means in Disney canon some guy fuck a dog and goofy came out of it lol wtf
sorry what? how did your parents looked it up online when you were a small kid?
@@dontspikemydrink9382 Well, I was a 2000s kid, so smartphones and looking things up on them wasn't commonplace yet. So I simply asked my parents after watching a Goofy cartoon on TV what animal Goofy was, and they looked it up on Google using a computer.
"I cant tell if he's a cow or a dog but I get him" Homer Simpson
Really the best counter to the “but Pluto” is to point out that other anthropomorphic dogs exist in media tied to members of the Sensational Six. The Beagle Boys for example, they’re dogs.
Goofy is a dog, it’s just that because there’s all this Pluto related confusion he gets the “well he’s written like a human” answers that technically would apply to Mickey too. Outside of the odd gag (something Goofy also gets) Mickey isn’t written as a mouse. Mickey is written like a human.
When I think about it only Donald has his duck traits written into his character with his voice, sailor suit, navy connections and house boat tying him to the water.
My favourite explanation is Tomskas. I choose believe it's a kinky thing. Pluto's either a gimp or their deeply handicapped friend they treat like a dog.
To be fair, Mickey and Minnie also have characteristically high voices like a mouse's squeak
Wow I never thought about that being a reading behind their voices
@@dcasey714 yeah but Donald talks like a duck 99 percent of the time.
@@dcasey714 You could also argue goofy's voice is supposed to represent a dog, Dogs are portrayed as dumb and silly in media while cats are portrayed as smart and sassy
You know, the idea of Goofy being just "a goof" actually does have some validity to it! I went to Disney Springs a couple of months back and bought myself a stuffed plush of Goofy from the actual Goofy Candy Shop they had. When I brought him up to the counter to pay, a kindly, middle-aged woman asked in a sweet voice "would you like a bag for your goof?"
At first I saw it as just this funny, charming moment, but after this video I'm starting to think that Disney informs their cast members of this exact thing! We may have just cracked this wide open!
"a bag for your goof" sounds so silly I love it 😍
@@ItsSalvatore It was a highlight moment of my life, for sure!
When I was little I thought Goofy was a rhino.
I was not smart.
Why’d you think that?
@@IcyDiamond I have absolutely no idea. Maybe I saw a rhino in a Goofy cartoon and combined the two.
Even then goofy never even looked like a rhino u iddot
oh no i guess i’m an iddot now… darn
@@TheEmoCat this comment is even funnier when you remember the cartoon where Goofy goes hunting for a rhino.
Eddache. You have such a variety of topics to talk about and you carry the same quality throughout all of your videos. I'm truly amazed by all that you create
Agree, he is such a good UA-camr
I liked the idea that the reason Goofy can be humanoid, with Pluto being dog-like, was the same as to why we have humans and monkeys: they come from an ancestral line that hadn't evolved yet.
@@macmcskullface1004 Right, most monkey species are far stronger than humans
@@macmcskullface1004 what he wanted to say is that pluto not evolved into an antropomorphized animal
Monkeys are definitely evolved, brother
eh evolution isn't real anyways
@@macias7125 nem fudendo kskskksk
"Goofy is a goof"
Has the same energy as:
"Kirby is shaped like a friend"
It's imposible to say what it means, but it just feels right.
Loll
Not wrong
I recently went to a pin event Disney hosted and one of the surveys they had us do was "Favorite Disney Dog." It had all the animal dogs you would imagine: Bolt, Dodger, Copper, etc. But then it also had Goofy and Max as options. Which is super weird to have them in with the animal dogs, but regardless, Disney seems to consider them dogs and have for a long while.
I always just thought that in the cartoon world there were two types of animals, normals and funnies. Normal animals being just that, a typical animal that can’t talk or isn’t anthropomorphic. And funny animals being the cartoon characters who act like humans but have animalistic features
I still tend to think of Goofy as an anthropomorphic dog, as opposed to the non-anthropomorphic dogs like Pluto. I'm used to cartoons where some things exist in anthropomorphic and non-anthropomorphic forms, so I never really felt the need to justify why Goofy is anthropomorphic and Pluto is not.
You have the exact thoughts that I do
Plus, in _Goof Troop_ itself, Goofy & Max have a pet cat named Waffles, meanwhile Pete's family (himself, his house-selling loudmouth wife Peg, neurotic son PJ, and psycho daughter Pistol) have a pet dog named Chainsaw.
I just always assumed he was an anthro dog species separate but related to Pluto's. Y'know, like humans and other great apes like chimps.
"What are you, anyway? Some kind of man-dog thing?"
-Hades, House of Mouse
If I were to have a nickel for every time Eddache made a theory about Goofy.
I’d have two nickels, which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird it happened twice, right?
Nice reference 👌 👍
Doomed
Behold my I don’t care inatore
Honestly, I can solve this in a couple major steps in a similar way that you did.
Apart from the article being a joke, there's the fact that there's been a bizarre love triangle between Goofy, Clarabelle and Horace Horsecollar for years, especially right after the character became a mainstay during the point when Horace and Clarabelle were more regularly used. And, of course, there was the fact that before Mickey, Walt's other character was a rabbit who was involved romantically with a cat.
And, at the same time, Bill's pretty much Goofy in and out by this point, so I'd take his word on it.
And what happened?; Horace Horsecollar ended up forgotten, that's what!... :(
@@edgardeitz2784 Horace is still occasionally used, mostly in the theme parks and the preschool shows. He got a costume upgrade ahead of even the A-listers like Goofy and Pluto. He's loved, it's just a smaller scale and more overseas.
In the Netherlands there is a weekly disney comic magazine simply called 'Donald Duck' wich has a 'letters from readers' section. The question of what animal goofy is has been asked there multiple times and the answer they always gave (and therefore the one I expected you to mention) was a dingo (the feral canine species in Australia)
...I was so close to commenting that he's a dog😅🤣 Currently watching the whole video though 🙌🙌🙌
Lol
This is all fine and dandy, but now you've gotten me thinking about why Donald Duck is always portrayed as an intelligent being who lives in a house and spends his time off doing leisurely activities, whereas Daffy Duck more often lives in the woods and has to avoid getting outright killed by a hunter any time of day.
Those two being made by different companies probably also plays a role in that. Disney definitely treated their anthro characters more like humans than Warners did. Like Bugs Bunny lived in a burrow instead of a house like a Rabbit, while Characters like the Road Runner and Taz didn't have a house either. But I do think it's not an impossibility that some questionable undertones exist/existed. After all both studios did make Racist Cartoons. So it's not impossible.
In the Disney universe there are anthropomorphic animals who created their own civilization and (usually) no humans but in Warner Bros there are humans who act like humans
I thought we had already settled this.
"Is that how Pluto and Goofy can coexist because one's a dog and one's a dawg?"
-Eddache.
Canis goofus, known by the common person as a 'dawg'.
(Edit) I also just remembered that Clarabelle has and largely still is paired with Horace Horsecollar, who is you know, *a HORSE.* So that argument falls flat on its face.
So are Clarabelle and Goofy polyamorous?
@@Max_The_Flower No, it's just that some productions have paired Clarabelle with Goofy and others with Horace, but the latter was very common in the early days and is becoming more common again now.
@@primrosevale1995 So at least they are in an open relationship, it may not be polyamory though.
@@Max_The_Flower Could also just be different canons.
@@primrosevale1995 stop denying me this
When I was a kid I thought Goofy was a unique dog hence why he’s “Goofy”
The Eddache experience. Hop into a video thinking it’s going to be a simple answer, and get dropped screaming into a pit of NASCAR scoring systems and the history of minstrel shows
People are talking about the similarities between Goofy and Pluto as dogs, but no one mentioned the fact that Minnie Mouse freaked out over a mouse in her house.
Exactly, or the fact that Mickey Mouse is bigger than a cat within the Disney Universe
Clarabelle Cow has always dated out side of her species. people forget about Horace Horse Collar. I would put Goofy in the same catagory as Animaniacs or Gonzo or The Noid he just IS and whatever he is so is Pete and every other character on that show.
As someone who is black, I really love how An Extremely Goofy Movie asked "why the fuck do we wear gloves all the time?" because it's like, *we* know why they do, but the *characters* don't and ever since then I've come up with the rationalization that in their world people are just born with gloves on.
The Looney Tunes Show was just like, "That's who I am." and that's a good answer too.
What does that have to do with being black?
@@liamvogl1703 good question
@@davifernandopereiraborges5168Did either of you watch the video? If so, did you pass out during the Part about minstrel shows?
@@tonywebert8326 i watched it and i do not assumed goofy was black
I was always under the impression that both Goofy and Pluto were dogs. Goofy just happens to be on a higher intellectual level than Pluto. He's no Ludvig Von Drake, of course, but he is smart enough to know how to talk and wear clothes and such. Idk, I can accept that he's just Goofy too.
Goofy and Max are what is known as “Cartoonus characterus”.
Same species as the Warner Bros (and their sister Dot!)
No goofy is a canis goofuis
Seeing Bugs Bunny without his gloves unsettled me far, far more than I expected it to
I saw somewhere that, in the land of cartoons and their creators, there are "Animals" and there are so-called "Funny Animals". An animal that behaves like an animal would, uses the proper number of appendages to walk, and doesn't speak is an "Animal". An animal that walks on two legs, talks, wears clothes, etc. is a "Funny Animal". So by that logic, Pluto is a dog and Goofy is a "Funny Dog".
Not trying to discredit the video here, just supplying an additional viewpoint/explanation! The video was well-made and researched, and I enjoyed it!
I like to think that the answer is similar to Hello Kitty. Kitty is a girl who just happens to be a cat. I think that Goofy is a man that just happens to be a dog/cow/demon/thing.
Isnt she canonically a girl in a catsuit?
hol' up, demon?
@@Vee_Sheep sacrifices to goofy
@@lmpst7915 pretty sure hello kitty is just a human girl who is drawn as a cat. she doesnt actually look like that, you get me
Everyone always asks "what is Goofy?" But no one ever asks "how is Goofy?"
I mean, asking how Goofy can be a dog when Pluto is already a dog is like asking how humans can be apes when Chimpanzees are already apes. It's really not that hard to understand. In fact, I'm more confused about the confusion than anything. It feels like a meme rather than a serious feeling of dissonance over Goofy's species, but everything points to people being genuinely disturbed over two separate species of dog having differing biology.
Exactly! Plus in Ducktales 2017 (which Goofy appears in) there are regular non-anthropomorphic ducks. That’s just how the Mickey and friends universe works.
I thought the exact same thing, if chimps and humans can live together, why can’t Goofy and Pluto live together?
@@IcyDiamond so, if we were to put this into a human lense,Pluto is mickeys pet monkey? Interesting
@@ijustlikebees Yes he would, also hey it’s nice to see you again!
@@IcyDiamond hehehe we just keep seeing each other
Maybe the Disney characters live in some kind of Narnia situation where some happen to be anthropomorphic and some are just normal
goofy isn't a dog, he drives a car and has job!
Humans are primates. People sometimes describe themselves as just monkeys.
Some humans also own monkeys as pets.
Could be something similar.
Yeah I remember that interview with Bill Farmer that said that Goofy was a "Canis Goofus." In essence, Goofy is a member of an original, fictional species, the missing link between man and dog.
For people who were wondering after the cow section, Goofy's canonical name is George Geef.
YES! I was JUST about to come in with this! He's a "geef," for what that's worth.
You know, everyone has issues believing Goofy's a dog cause of Pluto, but NOBODY questions Pete being a cat when Minnie's pet cat exists (Figaro I think is his name. I know its something music related).
9:42 Eddie is Shou Tucker confirmed. Check on his wife and kid.
Its the same thing like how there are still apes and great apes around but we are from a common ancestor.
Everyone keeps questioning Goofy’s species but WHAT ABOUT PETE?! IS HE A DOG? A CAT? A BEAR?
@@macmcskullface1004 he’s been a bear a dog a cat and even a rabbit (I’m talking about the Oswald series about the rabbit )
I prefer calling him a cat as he perfectly personifies greedy corporate fat cats with their deep pockets. He’s often portrayed as being very well off (In Goof Troop he was a used car salesman with a big house filled tons of expensive things to contrast Goofy’s more middle class lifestyle and in House of Mouse he was the landlord for the titular building) and always depicted as very large and imposing physically. In his original design he even had a tail!
Actually (Pushes up nerd glasses) Goofy and clarabellas relationship, although definitely embraced by the modern Era of Mickey, is fully prevalent in the Mid 1930s Mickey cartoons. In fact the first time Donald Duck ever appeared in a Mickey Mouse cartoon was in the same episode that established the Goofy, Clarabelle, Horace Love triangle
6:24
idk about you but deltarune says that’s a god damn deer
The early Disney animators also liked referring to Mickey Mouse as a human, in fact, they specifically forbade Mickey from being seen with cheese, because they wanted him to be more human than animal. I think what they're trying to say, in very poor terms, is that Goofy is an anthro dog, while Pluto is just a normal one. At the end of the day though, the lines really are still blurred. At the very least we can say that he's based on the caricature of a dog.
4:41 goofy belongs to the streets
8:44 this part reminded me of that one statement that was made about Big Bird and regards to what type of bird specifically he is.
There was a donald duck comic where a character was going hunting and donald says "you can't hunt me,i'm domesticated!".
I always interpreted anthropomorphised characters as being "domesticated" as opposed to pluto who is a wild animal
1:01 Mickey get Minnie, Donald get daisy, what do I get? Paid
Speaking of interspecies relationship, what about Oswald and Ortensia? They're a rabbit and a cat, respectively, and have children... lots and lots of children.
@@ragedog8800 You do know Epic Mickey is a thing right? Sucks that we don't the third entry or the spinoff titles.
Fun fact: Goofy in the 1950’s, was known as "George Geef". He resembled an “Everyman” or an everyday man, and this character appeared in shorts where he tried to overcome common everyday problems that people faced during this time. After the “Everyman” era, Goofy finally became the Goofy that everyone knows today.
Cool but that’s in the video
Also, George Geef has a wife whose face was never shown except for her hands.
Let's not forget about how the milkman kissed Goofy, implying that his wife is on to something.
I seriously don't understand how this is a question. Goofy is anthropomorphic/funny animal/furry/humanoid dog is Pluto is regular dog.
It's not that complex.
I'm just glad when he got to the half man half dog bit, I didn't have to be reminded of Nina Tucker.
I don't know if you take requests but the unsettling visual gags of spongebob would be an interesting thing to go through. Especially when you hear the theory that all the creatures are the biproduct of a nuclear bomb (bikini atol is supposedly the location of bikini bottom)
9:23 i almost died laughing 🤣
3:45 "Fool...." *"I AM THE TREE!"*
*Hits you with a branch*
Idk what insight this brings to the convo, but the whole dog nosed human thing as seen in the Goofy Movie actually has further appearences in some regionally exlusive disney stuff from around the place. I know specifically that here in Scandinavia, the comic series Donald Duck & Co has featured dog nosed humans as background and one-off characters for as long as I can remember. I can't confirm when they appeared and how long they've existed, but they're sure there so the more you know
6:52 bros about to get canceled on twitter
I have always thought that in this kind of anthropomorphic animal cartoons, anthropomorphic animals and real animals are close but different species, just like our relationship with monkeys.
In Dutch comics, he's classified as a dingo
0:34 hey look that's me :D
I always pictured Goofy as a 'thing.'
Just like the Warner Brothers and Sister.
Who would’ve guessed people would have to debate what spices Goofy is to the equivalent of wondering what the Warner siblings are .
0:06 that didn't aged
I was saying "GOOFY IS A GOOF!" the whole vid. Great job Eddy!
Jessica and roger rabbit being different species?
So roger rabbit, and Jessica rabbit are different species?
Yeah, they just have the same last name.
I Love it at 2:22 When he gets Angrier Reading these Lies in the Document.
7:26 those were added so you can see Micky pressing the keys of the piano in that one short not a reference to Minstrel Shows
With that end protion of the video, it does make sense.
Some animal like characters don't actually have just one animal origan or they have so many, that they are something completly diffrent.
A good example might be with Yako, Wako and Dot from earlier in the video. They look like animals but they don't really have just one animal they are based on, they are just them.
Another example that sprung to my mind was Sneeze, created by Dingo Doodles as a made up characer doodle that looks like a mix of several animals that he can't really be identified as just one. He is just Sneeze.
And this, my friends, is why it's okay to like Lola bunny... an above average amount.
We're right with you, champ!
Ditto for Peg Pete.
The idea of Goofy being half human half dog just gives me some creepy full metal alchemist vibes
Your videos really are growing on me... They have a really conforting tone that's really appealing
Why don't the animals in Arthur barely look like the Animals their based on?
I always thought Goofy was the same thing as Pete. If we know what Pete is we know what Goofy is. I mean they share many similar qualities. And doesn't Pete predate Goofy? I know cartoon historian so forgive me if I have that wrong. If that is the case then they created a likable Pete and anti villain so to speak. But that's how I viewed it so I didn't get stuck up at night wondering what Goofy was. And it was Goof Troop that made me think that. Now I'm off to bed.
so he's a cat?
i love your videos!! it answers questions that i never knew needed an answer!!
That Art Babbit actually quote made my jaw drop. They really did not try to hide it back then....
I thought he was a giraffe
Seems like the Disney cartoons are part of a universe where more than apes evolved to human like intelligence. Goofy is to a dog as we are to chimpanzees
I just want to say, 'Thank you!" for concluding the video with the famous "Goofy yell/scream". I LOVE that zany vocalization! I think we should swap out the the (now rather infamous) "Wilhelm scream" for Goofy's distinctive "pipes" in a few movie action scenes. At this point it can't be any more absurd. ;-)
I mean, since humans are evolved from primates, and we still have primates, (albeit not that closely related to us) whose to say that in a cartoon world, that an anthropomorphic dog like Goofy, and a regular dog like Pluto, can't co-exist?
Everyone calling him a dog is obviously a misconception/typo
he's a dawg
Yeah! Amen!
goofy is 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000% a sandwich
That’s a surprisingly satisfying answer for such a “goofy” topic
But this brings another thought, which came first the character of goofy or the characteristics of acting goofy. Was goofy named after the personification of goofy actions or did people start saying it after the character of goofy was made
More proof Goofy isn’t a cow: Clarabelle’s secondary love interest is Horace Horsecollar, so unless he’s also a cow, Goofy isn’t a cow
In French, Goofy is named Dingo, which means roughly the same thing as his English name, but is also the name of canidae species native to Australia.
This would support the idea that Goofy IS, in fact, a dog.
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Take it if you please Eddache.
you ruled out the correct answer really early on: he's clearly a sandwich cause DAMN, goofy a snack
Also funfact clarabelle is actually paired up with horace horcecollar. He was faded out of Disney but came back in that 3D short proceeding frozen
For once, the furries have a good explanation for this. In much anthropomorphic art are stories, there are humanoid animals and regular animals. The humanoid ones have physical traits associated with the "feral" variant, but is psychologically human in every definition.
And the answer is that simple. Goofy is an anthropomorphic dog, pluto is a regular dog. Mickey and Minnie are anthropomorphic mice (and scaled to human size to accentuate that), but actual mice are still in disney.
This question has always been nonsense to me even before I knew about furries, I don't get what people find confusing about this.
IKR.
So basically he's a furry
"When I mix a dog with a human..."
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I like to think of this as being the same way we see primates. We're related to apes but you don't necessarily see us swinging from tree to tree and throwing poop at each other. So if we're related to apes, a lower species in the pyramid of life, then goofy can be related to dogs and Donald can be related to ducks.
That "necessarily" is an important word. I don't _have_ to throw poop at people, but I do it anyway.
I- weirdly have something kinda similar in my own writing stuffs with anthro, and feral animals along with standard humans. In my mind, since normal ducks and cats and other normal animals also exist in the mickey mouse world, i take it kind of like how were decended from beinga from the ape family, but apes still exist- or something like that
I know he voices Goofy, but Bill Farmer speaking naturally sounds a lot more like one of his other characters, Hopediah Plantar from Amphibia, Aka Hop Pop.
In France we call him Dingo, so I always thought the reason he was not like Pluto was simply that he's not a dog but a...well, a dingo
I'm so glad you over think the things that have always just been sitting in the back of my head.
Well this is a coincidence, I had a discussion about what Goofy was in one of my college classes recently.
Goofy is an dog pluto is a dog
In the Disney-verse humans anthro-animals and animals live in the same world.
Some animals can talk some cant
I always thought that Goofy and Pluto had the same conection that we have other primates.
I don’t think I’ll ever be able to sleep knowing that ‘Canis Goofus’ is a species in the Mickey Mouse universe.
Glad I watched the video all the way through. Fantastic work Eddie!