I feel like ur severely misunderstanding the "I wouldn't have lost a battle, I would've lost a bro" line, if Cole really meant he would've won then he would've just said "I would've won but lost a bro". He is purposely putting emphasis on what the battle would've cost him whether he won or lost. As for the braggadocious bars literally every rapper does this. Cole has also made it perfectly clear in his songs he would never want to battle someone unless he had beef wit them and the competition he would want is to get on a song and go back and forth with each other.
Let’s not forget that J Cole has been throwing subliminal shots for years i.e Fire squad, GOMD, First person shooter etc. but when it was time to step up he folds. Then he takes the moral high ground over Kdot of all people ??
bro he just realized it was getting serious i doubt he want to be like how kdot and drake are right now were they don't like each other mind you he isn't in the right but you cant say that
@@tylorfrancois8838 schoolboy Q went to cole show and told him that the beef is more than just about lyricism and bars. hence why kdot brought up pde allegations and drake brought up kendrick childhood trauma. If it was strictly bout bars sure but it wasnt.
I personally wouldn't say that songs like fire squad and GOMD are direct subs to kdot; Those are more so generalized shots at any rapper, something we've seen many rappers do, including Jcole. But I do agree.. this wasn't the time to back out, not in this moment, not with this momentum and not with this caliber of an opponent
My main problem with the track was that he was basically saying "If I wasnt a nice guy, I would've won." I dont know why he made a track, shouldve kept that sample for TFO, he alr explained himself at his show. There was no need to make that track other than what he was talking about in it "the doe". And basically forced respect on the situation. And I'm a huge J. Cole fan but this was not it. Yes he could prolly go bar for bar with Kenny with none of that serious stuff, cuz lets be honest, the two really dont have anything on eachother personally. But it just sounds silly for him to rap on hypotheticals. "Oh if this wasnt so serious, I wouldve joined in." Yes, mfs alr done knew this, most people are just trolling him like the internet does. The hypocrisy is also crazy. He says "I learned long ago you cant please em all and it hurts trying." Why you making a track then??? 😭😭
He didn't say that shit. Stop interpreting crap just for the sake of starting something The point in the track isn't to please everyone either so what tf are you talking about? He knows ppl are gonna hate it so he still drops it. So you want him to just not explain his take on the situation? That would be pleasing you. He proves you wrong by telling Drake to stop worrying about the beef and make good music. Which is what he's doing... how is that hypocritical? He never said he would've joined in. The entire point in the apology was that he doesn't want to discredit/get toxic. He prefers going bar for bar on features or dropping an album on the same day. That's what competition means to him. Why are y'all misinterpreting everything? Him saying "the doe" isn't even about this situation. He hates mumble rap and always did. He had a convo with lil Pump and said he seems dumb but is actually smart on the inside. The music he's making and trends he's doing is for money so he's not knocking it
@@delanireid you saying i started shit but this track was unneccesary and also started shit 😂 "the doe" part was used as referrence. it didnt need to be connected to the situation. J. Cole already explained himself at the festival, he did not need to make a track 🤷♂️ you seriously didnt counter anything in my comment 😭 i'm all for debates and trying to learn cuz i dont know everything but you couldve atleast came with some solid arguments smh :/
@@joshacd150 what did this song "start"? He's simply telling Drake the apology wasn't for the sake of switching sides The doe part was a reference for what? Cole makes music... he documents his life. That's like complaining that LeBron plays basketball in a game that he doesn't have to. Why tf is it such a bad to thing to simply make a track documenting what went down when he apologized? That wasn't even the entire focus of the track. Your augment came from your ass. There's no need for deeper arguments because what you said was bullshit. Talking about he didn't need to make a track. He didn't need to stay silent. People weren't just trolling him, mfs actually got mad at him, said they were heart broken and didn't want to be a fan, and some idiots genuinely think he was scared of KDot. I proved your hypocrisy crap wrong and your misinterpretation of him saying he would've won. Y'all get mad, make conspiracies, and call people all sorts of shit when they're just being genuine... how? Why do y'all do this? Then when someone defends them they're the bad person.
@@delanireid dawg, the majority that got mad at him was mad for no reason, hence they'll be even more mad at him after this track. if he doesnt need to please everybody why make a track? and yes, this did start more shit because now alot of people who werent mad at him are mad at him. and no, you didnt prove anything wrong bru, i still stand by my statement. you cant prove a genuine opinion wrong in this situation this doesnt matter much anyway, these ppl dont know us, Cole gonna continue making great music. like he said, we cant stop him. I still think this track was unneccesary cuz it started more shit and just made him disliked by a big part of the community. I dont dislike J. Cole, I dislike this track. I dont like the argument "If I wasnt a good guy, I wouldve won". And I dont like it when mfs dont take sides and try to act neutral. It does not sit right with me. Thats just me tho 🤷♂️ Sure, great point, he does make music on his life, and he didnt need to stay quiet, I never said he didnt need to, just that I thought it was unneccesary. You do make good points though, like him wanting to tell Drake he didnt switch sides after the apology, I just think he coulve approached it in a much better way. Thank you for your opinion on it, so far.
Bro y’all just keep misunderstanding the lyrics fr like punch said nigga Cole literally meant that he would’ve lost more than just battle that’s what he meant by I wouldn’t have lost the battle I would have lost the bro
I feel like ur severely misunderstanding the "I wouldn't have lost a battle, I would've lost a bro" line, if Cole really meant he would've won then he would've just said "I would've won but lost a bro". He is purposely putting emphasis on what the battle would've cost him whether he won or lost. As for the braggadocious bars literally every rapper does this. Cole has also made it perfectly clear in his songs he would never want to battle someone unless he had beef wit them and the competition he would want is to get on a song and go back and forth with each other.
Let’s not forget that J Cole has been throwing subliminal shots for years i.e Fire squad, GOMD, First person shooter etc. but when it was time to step up he folds. Then he takes the moral high ground over Kdot of all people ??
bro he just realized it was getting serious i doubt he want to be like how kdot and drake are right now were they don't like each other mind you he isn't in the right but you cant say that
@@tlkmoney5074 How? How did he realize it's getting srs when he dropped b4 drake and Kdot even started scrapping???
@@tylorfrancois8838 schoolboy Q went to cole show and told him that the beef is more than just about lyricism and bars. hence why kdot brought up pde allegations and drake brought up kendrick childhood trauma. If it was strictly bout bars sure but it wasnt.
@Therealwalkdown
isnt that a rumor? either way i agree
I personally wouldn't say that songs like fire squad and GOMD are direct subs to kdot; Those are more so generalized shots at any rapper, something we've seen many rappers do, including Jcole. But I do agree.. this wasn't the time to back out, not in this moment, not with this momentum and not with this caliber of an opponent
its like 2 to 3 months since the track dropped and people still dont understand it smh
I clearly understood it, just gave my opinion on the matter
@itsverlo you clearly didnt understand the "i wouldve have lost a battle, i would have lost a bro" and other lines
My main problem with the track was that he was basically saying "If I wasnt a nice guy, I would've won."
I dont know why he made a track, shouldve kept that sample for TFO, he alr explained himself at his show. There was no need to make that track other than what he was talking about in it "the doe". And basically forced respect on the situation.
And I'm a huge J. Cole fan but this was not it. Yes he could prolly go bar for bar with Kenny with none of that serious stuff, cuz lets be honest, the two really dont have anything on eachother personally. But it just sounds silly for him to rap on hypotheticals. "Oh if this wasnt so serious, I wouldve joined in." Yes, mfs alr done knew this, most people are just trolling him like the internet does. The hypocrisy is also crazy. He says "I learned long ago you cant please em all and it hurts trying." Why you making a track then??? 😭😭
Well said, with that iconic dead presidents sample, he could've had a great song on The Fall Off. Overall I agree
He didn't say that shit. Stop interpreting crap just for the sake of starting something
The point in the track isn't to please everyone either so what tf are you talking about? He knows ppl are gonna hate it so he still drops it. So you want him to just not explain his take on the situation? That would be pleasing you. He proves you wrong by telling Drake to stop worrying about the beef and make good music. Which is what he's doing... how is that hypocritical? He never said he would've joined in. The entire point in the apology was that he doesn't want to discredit/get toxic. He prefers going bar for bar on features or dropping an album on the same day. That's what competition means to him. Why are y'all misinterpreting everything?
Him saying "the doe" isn't even about this situation. He hates mumble rap and always did. He had a convo with lil Pump and said he seems dumb but is actually smart on the inside. The music he's making and trends he's doing is for money so he's not knocking it
@@delanireid
you saying i started shit but this track was unneccesary and also started shit 😂 "the doe" part was used as referrence. it didnt need to be connected to the situation. J. Cole already explained himself at the festival, he did not need to make a track 🤷♂️
you seriously didnt counter anything in my comment 😭 i'm all for debates and trying to learn cuz i dont know everything but you couldve atleast came with some solid arguments smh :/
@@joshacd150 what did this song "start"? He's simply telling Drake the apology wasn't for the sake of switching sides
The doe part was a reference for what? Cole makes music... he documents his life. That's like complaining that LeBron plays basketball in a game that he doesn't have to. Why tf is it such a bad to thing to simply make a track documenting what went down when he apologized? That wasn't even the entire focus of the track. Your augment came from your ass. There's no need for deeper arguments because what you said was bullshit. Talking about he didn't need to make a track. He didn't need to stay silent. People weren't just trolling him, mfs actually got mad at him, said they were heart broken and didn't want to be a fan, and some idiots genuinely think he was scared of KDot. I proved your hypocrisy crap wrong and your misinterpretation of him saying he would've won.
Y'all get mad, make conspiracies, and call people all sorts of shit when they're just being genuine... how? Why do y'all do this? Then when someone defends them they're the bad person.
@@delanireid
dawg, the majority that got mad at him was mad for no reason, hence they'll be even more mad at him after this track. if he doesnt need to please everybody why make a track? and yes, this did start more shit because now alot of people who werent mad at him are mad at him. and no, you didnt prove anything wrong bru, i still stand by my statement. you cant prove a genuine opinion wrong in this situation
this doesnt matter much anyway, these ppl dont know us, Cole gonna continue making great music. like he said, we cant stop him. I still think this track was unneccesary cuz it started more shit and just made him disliked by a big part of the community. I dont dislike J. Cole, I dislike this track. I dont like the argument "If I wasnt a good guy, I wouldve won". And I dont like it when mfs dont take sides and try to act neutral. It does not sit right with me. Thats just me tho 🤷♂️
Sure, great point, he does make music on his life, and he didnt need to stay quiet, I never said he didnt need to, just that I thought it was unneccesary. You do make good points though, like him wanting to tell Drake he didnt switch sides after the apology, I just think he coulve approached it in a much better way. Thank you for your opinion on it, so far.
Just think he’s nuts for thinking he’s be losing anything by losing a relationship with Drake one fake dude
Bro y’all just keep misunderstanding the lyrics fr like punch said nigga Cole literally meant that he would’ve lost more than just battle that’s what he meant by I wouldn’t have lost the battle I would have lost the bro
Y'all making essays arguing about ppl that don't know y'all in the comments 😂
You just hattin.