@@OttersanityI’d say it’s less wacky than 40k, on the whole - and those helmets were so awful, GW burned them and removed them from the line. I say this as a Space Wolf player
I don’t much care for the Tabletop aspect of 30k, but as someone who is 19 out of 54 books into the Horus Heresy, it is nice knowing these models exist and that I will see people proxy them for units on a 40k table.
I massively enjoy the Horus Heresy support, giving the Mechanicum, Night Lords, and other armies much needed content. But I guess I need to wait a few years until the used marked thrives, cause the only reason I visit the games workshop and hobby shops is to buy citadel paint and adhesive. I don't care what anybody says, 50 to 100 Euros is not an fair price for what in the end are glorified 10 plastic figures.
@@balthasar6091 In a decade or so, people will defend GW selling space marine lieutenants for £45. I don’t even know why people use Citadel paint primarily nowadays unless they don’t have a FLGS that isn’t a Games Workshop.
Garbage-named Aos factions (seriously, Settra died for "Kharkarodon overlords" and "ossiarch bonereapers"?) and space marines who all look the goddamn same vs Horus heresy in general
10th fucking sucks, and so does AoS 4th edition. They've gutted everything that makes the game unique and fun in favor of boring tournament play that STILL is somehow worse balanced than any other time before. The 9th edition was decent and fun, and so was AoS 3rd, but Old World and HH2e are far more friendly to customization and kitbashing with fluffy marrative armies than modern 40k, shoving everything cool to Legends, and IMO thats what the game should have stayed like
@@andrewmcnally5013 It's baffling how they went to rather elegant if oversimplified 8th only to step on the very same rake twice and bloat the game AGAIN in 9th. Playing since the 6th and early 8th was probably the best edition on my memory.
The reasoning is GW wanted to simplify the rules to broaden the player base and not the quality of the rule set itself. this is because their internal concern is recruitment rather then retention. 7th is still a wargame, 10th is more of a board game. it depends on what you want from your game.
@@basition Yes! This is exactly what i was saying to a friend of mine who loves WH. It's no longer a game of tactic; it's a game of optimization, closer to MTG rather than to Chess. WH relies on magical strategems and auras/leaders to enhcance your forces or to weaken the enemy; it's not about having high ground, or flanking, or disrupting command structure anymore.
Just like that, Mechanicus cult grow
Cult Mechanicum*
All hail the omnisaiah
I do enjoy the more wacky designs of the Horus Heresy
The Corvus pattern power armour is honestly awesome.
The Beaky bois are fine. Honestly the worst looking helmets I have seen are the Wolf ones for the Space Wolves.
@@OttersanityI’d say it’s less wacky than 40k, on the whole - and those helmets were so awful, GW burned them and removed them from the line. I say this as a Space Wolf player
@@LysimedVenteel Oh you mean the furry helmets.
I was looking at that mechanicum box rather lustfully ngl.
I don’t much care for the Tabletop aspect of 30k, but as someone who is 19 out of 54 books into the Horus Heresy, it is nice knowing these models exist and that I will see people proxy them for units on a 40k table.
I massively enjoy the Horus Heresy support, giving the Mechanicum, Night Lords, and other armies much needed content. But I guess I need to wait a few years until the used marked thrives, cause the only reason I visit the games workshop and hobby shops is to buy citadel paint and adhesive. I don't care what anybody says, 50 to 100 Euros is not an fair price for what in the end are glorified 10 plastic figures.
@@balthasar6091 In a decade or so, people will defend GW selling space marine lieutenants for £45. I don’t even know why people use Citadel paint primarily nowadays unless they don’t have a FLGS that isn’t a Games Workshop.
I buy nearly everything secondhand or 3D print when it comes to GW. Their prices aren't worth it.
That's really how it goes. I had 0 interest in running Heresy until I saw all the stuff you couldn't get for 40k.
This is 500% accurate holy shit
Accurate AF
Horus
Too freaking perfect
Remember when a Heretek Magos scorpion abomination could solo most Primarchs single handed?
Compelling argument, unfortunately, I'm a xenos fan
Big oof
At least you Xenos fans are eating okay now with new killteam box set for Tau vespids and Tau models if you play Tau or not
Teal and bronze go hard
Tmw, you have only read the novels and the lore, so you completely forget there is a game.
Garbage-named Aos factions (seriously, Settra died for "Kharkarodon overlords" and "ossiarch bonereapers"?) and space marines who all look the goddamn same vs Horus heresy in general
You guys keep neglecting the comically are amount of money that game costs
Too bad I'm not a fan of the rules. They give me old 40k rules vibes, and those rules are gone for a good reason.
It's based on 7th edition, and they were a more solid set of rules than the FAQ'd to oblivion mess that has been 9th and 10th editions.
10th fucking sucks, and so does AoS 4th edition. They've gutted everything that makes the game unique and fun in favor of boring tournament play that STILL is somehow worse balanced than any other time before. The 9th edition was decent and fun, and so was AoS 3rd, but Old World and HH2e are far more friendly to customization and kitbashing with fluffy marrative armies than modern 40k, shoving everything cool to Legends, and IMO thats what the game should have stayed like
@@andrewmcnally5013 It's baffling how they went to rather elegant if oversimplified 8th only to step on the very same rake twice and bloat the game AGAIN in 9th.
Playing since the 6th and early 8th was probably the best edition on my memory.
The reasoning is GW wanted to simplify the rules to broaden the player base and not the quality of the rule set itself.
this is because their internal concern is recruitment rather then retention.
7th is still a wargame, 10th is more of a board game. it depends on what you want from your game.
@@basition Yes! This is exactly what i was saying to a friend of mine who loves WH. It's no longer a game of tactic; it's a game of optimization, closer to MTG rather than to Chess. WH relies on magical strategems and auras/leaders to enhcance your forces or to weaken the enemy; it's not about having high ground, or flanking, or disrupting command structure anymore.