Not sure either... but over the years, heard many men state that 'CrazyWomen' have some GoodGOOD... yea, *that.* Nada else makes sense as to why men are drawn to {them}.
@@lornarettig3215 I concur. I don't have a p e n i s, so I'd nvr understand [it]. I think [it's] not just 'desperate' for s e x, *it's* a 'certain-kind' of s e x that they may Lust!...extraKinky??
I think in the beginning she came off as sexy, charming, hid the crazy until after she seduced them. Some men just want sex outside of their marriage. Some married men want to feel like they still got it, after years of marriage, to have a woman coming on to them makes them feel good. Maybe she gave the kind of sex his wife didn’t or he was bored with his wife sex. I read her father was supervisor of post office, maybe men thought by getting with Diane they could move up. Maybe Diane used her father position to get men interested in her, telling them I could help you. But she was also promiscuous in high school, college, maybe she felt that’s how you get men and all men want an easy lay, even if they don’t really want you.
"He was on a fishing trip when I got shot". Wouldn't a decent mother have said when MY KIDS got shot rather than when I got shot? That statement alone shows the depth of her narcissism!!
It's always been all about her and no one else. She couldn't have given one crap about those children unfortunately. They meant nothing to her except the nine months a pregnancy that she figures she got appreciated and treated like a queen that's the only thing that any of those children meant to her was that her 9 months of being treated with sympathy kindness and courtesy and that was it it was all about her and the attention that she got. I wish those children could have been taken away from her earlier. She's an evil monstrous murderer, and everything has to be about her her her, nothing else the death of her child means nothing to her at all, even in the phone call with him it's all about her it's not about the child dying it's about her and then she thinks she's going to sue the hospital for them killing her daughter oh my God oh, she thinks it's a Payday. This is so heartbreaking it just makes me want to cry for those children.
@@adellsternbergYou're right about Diane. The only thing she cares about is herself! It's creepy how a mother wouldn't talk about her lost child or the ones still suffering in the hospital. Some one should give Diane Downs a Bible a tell her that Heaven and Hell are real places!
“They killed Cheryl. She was alive when we got there…. Anyway it’s no big deal, nothing I can’t win.” Yeah that’s how normal moms talk when someone murdered their kid.
She never liked Cheryl she even called her ugly! DD reminds me so much of my mother.. they even sound alike, anyone can disagree with me but I think narcissism falls under demonic possession
Knickerbocker was fine and he gave Diane the best advice: "Keep your ass off TV". But we all know how that turned out. Plus, he wasn't interested in her. It's so obvious
Exactly!!! This woman, and I use that term very loosely, is absolutely bat crap crazy!! As a mother, I can't even imagine (and maybe I just don't want to) talking about everything else except my children! I can't
I lost one of my children. I’m appalled that her deceased child never really came up. It’s not NORMAL I wasn’t fit as a human for YEARS after my son died because of my grief. But Diane seems to be more concerned about herself. RIP sweet Cheryl 💔
He wanted her caught He knew what she did off the bat... The guilt this man carries for the death and traumatization of those children. Karma can be a bitch
She truly is an extreme example of a narcissist. It's all "I need someone to talk to." and "I get to go back to work next week". Then she talks about suing everyone and how people are terrified of her!! The great part about this is that due to her incredible lack of insight, she shows her true colors. To this very day (2024) she denies the murder/attempted murders.
My Mother never looked for another man after my parents separated, she didn't need one. She worked hard to put food on the table and gave my brother and I a good education.
Same , i raised my son, by myself, i was just worried bout meeting someone who could possibly hurt my little boy, 🤷🏼♀️ men are a dime a dozen, my baby is worth more , wish all children had loving parents 😢
It creeps you out because your dealing with a first class psychopath. Your witnessing insanity at work. Her levels of narcissism and the ability to lie without a conscience is off the charts pathological. Through the years she's changed her story 3 times adding conspiracies and new details to confuse the listener. She's been tried, convicted and sentenced but yet she still tries to clear her name every chance she gets. She's completely twisted and delusional.
Yeah, like any guy who got caught in an affair. All of a sudden she is crazy & obsessed. Plus you can tell he is recording this to prove his innocence & his wife is nearby so he can't talk normally.
We all can see this man don’t care/never cared about Diane, she was just a quick lay. She took out her kids and ruin her life for a man who wasn’t gonna leave his wife. I hope this is a lesson to all women.
Personally I feel he knew she was crazy before the hookup and just went along with it so she wouldn’t do anything to him. I believe he never anticipated her involving her kids
I am so hoping one day that someone gets the Joel Steinberg and Hedda Nussbaum trials - even just sound or transcripts. I still think about that poor little Lisa, she never got justice.
When she says that she told people Nick is going to get a divorce and marry her... He must have really bit his tongue, while thinking "fat chance in hell."
I guarantee he did tell her that. There is a paradigm that exists within most affairs. Men promise to leave their wives and fill their side piece’s head with promises of running off into the sunset together because their wife is a harpy that denies them attention and sex. He doesn’t leave. The married woman waxes poetic with her side piece about running off into the sunset to escape her domineering and abusive husband. The side dude prays she doesn’t leave because he doesn’t want a cheater to be his life partner. After careful planning to rake her husband over the coals, she leaves him. Yeah, there are deviations from these patterns but those are the outliers. 100% guaranteed that Knick promised her marriage at first, then realized Diane was taking his words seriously and backed off because the sex wasn’t worth it anymore. He never intended to leave Charlene, but it’s hard to get into a woman’s pants if you tell her how great your wife is and you just want to screw her when it’s convenient and then go back to playing happy family as soon as you wipe off your pork sword.
So true. Every single person in Lane County who's said a word about her, or the events, is lying,-- EVERYONE, except her. She who, oh btw, has a motive to lie lol.
Diane didnt want Nick to take the lie detector test bc she KNOWS he would pass it when they ask about when he saw the 22. She had it in her car when she moved.
Yes, she definitely doesn't want them to know she had the gun and she tried to gaslight him into thinking he didn't see the gun and instead there was a microwave. He sounds so uninterested in her, I don't know why she would keep calling him. He clearly doesn't care about her.
@@delilah2839 I think she keeps calling because she's genuinely in love with him. Knick is the only human being she's actually cared about her whole life, in the way WE understand caring. With him, she breaks all sorts of patterns. For instance, he's the one person she defends to the cops (and anyone else), and doesn't ever try slandering behind his back, something she does without qualm to anyone else if it suits her.
When she said, that she was going to sue for 6 million dollars, he gasped in disbelief. He probably was thinking, yeah right you're going to win that case.😂
Who would even be thinking about a lawsuit after losing a child, and then having the other two taken away from them…..”it’s not a big thing, I’m going to win….” (Re. the lawsuit) GOOD GRIEF!!! She’s more worried about HERSELF. TEXTBOOK PSYCHOPATH!!!
I never lost one of my children. I'm a mother of 4 but I did have a couple of miscarriages. I can't even wrap my head around how Diane is so calm and collected. She is more concerned about herself. Talking about a acar and returning to work??!! Talking about suing the state and all the money she's going to get?! I wasn't fit to even be around anyone. Time heals but it doesn't ever go away. I can't understand it.
Thanks so much for sharing these tapes. This is the first time I ever heard them as old as this case is. I subscribed to your channel. Looking forward to new content. You do a great job! Loving your channel!
I wonder if she was trying to convince Nick not to do the lie detector to try and turn the police’s attention to him and his wife. She’s calculated, she could have been trying that with a number of people
“She is such a liar. “What have you told the police about me?” “Nothing”. After she just spent at least an hour pouring her heart out about her love for him at the hospital. Such a liar.
Did she say ‘When I got shot?” What about YOUR KIDS DIANE? Nobody cares that you got shot in your arm (self-inflicted) this is about those INNOCENT CHILDREN THAT GOT SHOT BY THEIR MOTHER! smh Disgusting.
@@ChrisP3000x yes I know.. I followed it then… and she’s aged.. it’s still compelling.. she’s STILL, in her own warped, narcissistic, self-absorbed, non-chalant, twisted mind playing some kind of victim and has absolutely NO regard for those poor innocent beautiful children THAT SHE SO COLD BLOODEDLY SHOT ! I’m confident there’s a place in HELL waiting on her! DISGUSTING
She refers to herself being shot and having a plate in her arm. She NEVER says anything about her children being shot, one of them fatally. Then she goes on about suing everybody. The woman couldn’t sound more guilty if she tried. She says she wants her kids back…probably to finish what she started.
You can tell she was guilty from the start. It’s crazy how she was talking about herself instead of her kids which is nuts. 09:20 she told on herself. 😳😳
Right!!! The very beginning… the way she re-enact the shooting, in her car fixing her hair, the car had bullet holes her daughter died & 2 in icu.. for me I don’t believe I could of step foot back in that car 😡 definitely guilty from jump all that laughing after she hit her cast on the steering wheel! Please
Cheryl was dead on arrival, nobody knows how long it was after she short the kids and then drove to hospital. And btw she DID have gunshot residue on her hand-she said it was because she fought with the ‘killer’. She lies and lies. Well she’s in prison forever!!
Where can you find evidence of gunshot residue on her hands? Just wondering because that’s one of her supporters main arguments for her innocence. I read once that she washed it off at the hospital but have never heard there was GS residue evidence found on her
@@allwayscgood576I know her story changed, at first she didn't mention that the gun came into contact with her hand but she later said it did when she distracted the attacker by pretending to throw the keys lol (like you do with a dog)
I wonder if he came lovey dovey, we can be together now or slowly acted like he wanted to be back with her, I wonder then would she have admitted to him. Since she was crazy about him.
She's in an eternal hell Until she catches up with the truth And takes accountability for her sick sickness.. Mentally ill female. Many lifetimes of abuse To become the abuser
If someone talked to me like this id immediately understand they didn’t want to talk to me at ALL. They’d never hear from me again and there are no illusions. It’s all DELUSION for Diane
When I got shot? Not when my children were shot, one of with were murdered and one, crippled, one more critical... they killed Cheryl, but no big deal...how's the weather?
It is so obvious that Diane is still interested in him. Diane has an exhausting personality. Don’t you just love it when she says “I miss you.” Unbelievable!
@@marcymathieu4463 good to know, I didn't agree with them even questioning him but I guess they had to and he proved he had absolutely nothing to hide.
@@joseph07496 I think they set it up like that and he agreed to talk to her so she might slip up and say something so they could arrest her but she didn’t .
Matter of principle!! Im outraged..if someone shot my kids all bets go out the windows ..police can do whatever they want to find that person..give the whole city a lie detector. But than again we all know she was covering her own a$$ because of her guilt.. Shes so unbelievable its shocking..
I'm willing to bet that you were them who wanted us all to be vaccinated or lose freedom , then, too But do excuse me though, if I am wrong! But it Is just that kind of thinking that empowers tyrannical action and bad actors. Although I do get what you're saying and where you're coming from! But just yeah.. the whole city, that's irrational. (which is kind of what I may be if someone killed my children. too - but let that not harm the innocent) * The still recent (and as unanswered for as the first day our governments openly played tyrant with lockdowns) C Vaccination may be off topic, I can agree, but its fitting for your statement, because it is similar to how they acted. - Innocent (healthy/non risk/uninfected) be damned
this was scary to listen to. it was clear diana wanted to manipulate him so he would not talk about the gun he saw. in my mind i thought diana was innocent. this call really shows she did not want anyone to share she had a gun like the one used for her kids :'( i think i would expect her also to talk more about her kids than talk about the weather :(
@Mary Hamer the police laughed at her description, ie, dishevelled bushy haired man is a normal description liars use to describe a non existent perpetrator.
Diane is weirdly good at manipulating a situation and sort of making sense with her lies. I would have been easily hoodwinked by her if she displayed her more normal same self. Now she is a bag of crazy.
It's strange how many people much younger than me I've seen deteriorate into insanity. I don't know if they lost the ability to hide it or just stopped trying. At least the ones who started out acting crazy you knew to stay away from.
All she represented to him was sex on the side of his marriage. Narcissistic people use sex to control the emotions and feelings of people with manipulative behaviours and strategies.
@@TawnyC_he never left his wife for her, he was with his wife while carrying on an affair with her. that guy never had intentions on being with that nut job!!!
The conversation is about her & covering her male friends nothing about her deceased child or her injured kids...Damn, if narcissist had a face hers would be it..
I think she's ghastly and masculine! Ha! Even when she met the daughter she had in prison, she said to her, "I see you have my horrible protruding jaw"(something like that). Can you imagine?
She’s afraid he’s was gna tell them she had the gun that’s all & she was trying to tell him it was a week & a half without actually telling him obviously
Major narcissist and seriously cold. blooded. Zero compassion or grief for the loss of her one daughter and zero compassion for serious injury to her other 2 children.
Better watch the hit it and quit it women. Now he’s infamous forever for being the man she shot her kids for. No one wants to be remembered for that, anyone normal with empathy or heart, it has to have some affect on them. Could’ve been him or his wife. She tried to throw his wife under the bus.
"they" killed Cheryl??? Oh, hell no!! YOU killed Cheryl by shooting her, and you had tried your very best to kill your other kids. How dare you blame anyone else!!!
Diane says she was hit in a main artery. That little girl could not have been alive on arrival at the ED. She had already bled out. Diane is a B for saying this.
@@RedGarnett-n2p diane knew so little about the human body that two of her kids survived. Her attitude against the Nurses and Doctors that worked to save her children is disgusting.
At 4:40, did she assume her legal troubles were over? But from Knick's attitude, it dawns on her, she gotta invent reasons he shouldn't help the cops. She forgets normal so easily. Knock knock, who's there, normal calling. Hey, Diane, it's normal to want to help cops looking for a baby killer! Remember?!
Im sure before the crime happened that this was the way he’d talk to her, in a nonchalant way, she should have already known that he didn’t care about her either, not just the kids.
I really struggle to understand how and why so many men got involved with her. I find her absolutely exhausting within minutes.
Not sure either... but over the years, heard many men state that 'CrazyWomen' have some GoodGOOD... yea, *that.*
Nada else makes sense as to why men are drawn to {them}.
@@mrsmatthews5943 Wow. Imagine being so desperate for s3x that you bring that on yourself 😳
@@lornarettig3215 I concur. I don't have a p e n i s, so I'd nvr understand [it]. I think [it's] not just 'desperate' for s e x, *it's* a 'certain-kind' of s e x that they may Lust!...extraKinky??
I think in the beginning she came off as sexy, charming, hid the crazy until after she seduced them. Some men just want sex outside of their marriage. Some married men want to feel like they still got it, after years of marriage, to have a woman coming on to them makes them feel good. Maybe she gave the kind of sex his wife didn’t or he was bored with his wife sex. I read her father was supervisor of post office, maybe men thought by getting with Diane they could move up. Maybe Diane used her father position to get men interested in her, telling them I could help you. But she was also promiscuous in high school, college, maybe she felt that’s how you get men and all men want an easy lay, even if they don’t really want you.
@@mrsmatthews5943 Completely agree. The “passion” they initially see which is so enticing eventually turns out to be instability.
"He was on a fishing trip when I got shot". Wouldn't a decent mother have said when MY KIDS got shot rather than when I got shot? That statement alone shows the depth of her narcissism!!
Well what’s wrong with “when we got shot”?
“I, my, me”. She uses those words a lot. She’s her favorite subject and only concern.
It's always been all about her and no one else. She couldn't have given one crap about those children unfortunately. They meant nothing to her except the nine months a pregnancy that she figures she got appreciated and treated like a queen that's the only thing that any of those children meant to her was that her 9 months of being treated with sympathy kindness and courtesy and that was it it was all about her and the attention that she got. I wish those children could have been taken away from her earlier. She's an evil monstrous murderer, and everything has to be about her her her, nothing else the death of her child means nothing to her at all, even in the phone call with him it's all about her it's not about the child dying it's about her and then she thinks she's going to sue the hospital for them killing her daughter oh my God oh, she thinks it's a Payday. This is so heartbreaking it just makes me want to cry for those children.
That is so true
@@adellsternbergYou're right about Diane. The only thing she cares about is herself! It's creepy how a mother wouldn't talk about her lost child or the ones still suffering in the hospital. Some one should give Diane Downs a Bible a tell her that Heaven and Hell are real places!
"I can easily win this ..". Yes. You won 40 years in prison Diane.
She's so disgusting talking about the child going to hospital.
Still trying to convince people lmao emphasis on TRYING
Diane didn't do this and neither did i
“They killed Cheryl. She was alive when we got there…. Anyway it’s no big deal, nothing I can’t win.” Yeah that’s how normal moms talk when someone murdered their kid.
She is still spinning her stories 40 years later😬
"I got a metal plate in my arm..."😮
That is totally untrue
Another lie out of Diane’s mouth. Cheryl was not alive when she got to the hospital. She’s a chronic liar and egomaniac. How can she stand herself?
She never liked Cheryl she even called her ugly! DD reminds me so much of my mother.. they even sound alike, anyone can disagree with me but I think narcissism falls under demonic possession
Nick straight up knew she did it.
Wow Nick was so done and over her it was so obvious to everybody but her. Thank you for posting all of this information
He was such an ass , I think they deserved each other frankly.
Knickerbocker was fine and he gave Diane the best advice: "Keep your ass off TV". But we all know how that turned out. Plus, he wasn't interested in her. It's so obvious
He sounds like he was totally over her nonsense by then… but he was willing to get involved before all of this.
He wasn't that noble. Remember, that he committed adultery.
@@eva5601yup..he got caught up with a demon in human guise!
He was fine? He cheated on his wife and gave her gonorrhea that Diane gave him, then kept seeing her.
@@eva5601Amen
6:17-6:25 "they killed cheryl, cheryl was alive when we got there.....anyway it's nothing big..." what an evil *ITCH!
kudos on finding and uploading this! Stuff like this from her case is super hard to find
I love when he roasted her about the microwave! 🤣🤣🤣
Diane you didn't have no damn microwave "
@@sweetblack1216 😂
Also, when she said, "I love you." He didn't say I love you back. 😝😂
Microwaves were big and expensive back then so if she had one in her car he would've seen it.
Right!!😂😂😂
I haven't heard any emotions about the loss of her children only a 6million dollar settlement
That freak never received or seen $0.06
Said the same. No hysteria, nothing. No grief at all, only anger. I'd be institutionalized just knowing the kids.
“It’s nothin big, just a lawsuit…”
37 years later….
Exactly!!! This woman, and I use that term very loosely, is absolutely bat crap crazy!! As a mother, I can't even imagine (and maybe I just don't want to) talking about everything else except my children! I can't
@@leighmills6206 she still trying to use this story until this day
I lost one of my children. I’m appalled that her deceased child never really came up. It’s not NORMAL I wasn’t fit as a human for YEARS after my son died because of my grief. But Diane seems to be more concerned about herself. RIP sweet Cheryl 💔
I'm sorry for your loss. Thank you for sharing.
yes i thought the same thing. this audio scared me
@Nurse2816 I'm so sorry, that has to be the ultimate heartache 💔💔🙏
Im sorry for your loss.. Prayers for you and yours!
@@joseph07496 thank you so much. What you say is 100% correct. Time does heal it’s true. But it never goes completely away.
He wouldn't have been recording her unless he thought she was guilty imo
Who said he recorded her?
He's recording this call
He wanted her caught
He knew what she did off the bat...
The guilt this man carries for the death and traumatization of those children.
Karma can be a bitch
The cops were involved with him recording the calls. Read the book by Ann Rule.
She truly is an extreme example of a narcissist. It's all "I need someone to talk to." and "I get to go back to work next week". Then she talks about suing everyone and how people are terrified of her!! The great part about this is that due to her incredible lack of insight, she shows her true colors. To this very day (2024) she denies the murder/attempted murders.
My Mother never looked for another man after my parents separated, she didn't need one. She worked hard to put food on the table and gave my brother and I a good education.
B/c you had a wonderful mother!
That is all she did ..look 4 men and get pregnant.
@PumaLyn
She gave “I” a good education? The correct pronoun is ‘me’, she gave my brother and me a good education.
Big fucking deal!! If she didn't sniff your diaper be an asshole wouldn't she?
Same , i raised my son, by myself, i was just worried bout meeting someone who could possibly hurt my little boy, 🤷🏼♀️ men are a dime a dozen, my baby is worth more , wish all children had loving parents 😢
@@SaltyChips-dh3mp I stand corrected. Thank you.
Her voice just creeps me out!! Thanks for posting! I have all my notifications on for your channel. Keep'em coming!
It creeps you out because your dealing with a first class psychopath. Your witnessing insanity at work. Her levels of narcissism and the ability to lie without a conscience is off the charts pathological. Through the years she's changed her story 3 times adding conspiracies and new details to confuse the listener. She's been tried, convicted and sentenced but yet she still tries to clear her name every chance she gets. She's completely twisted and delusional.
man it is obvious he was not that into her.
She even mentions the affair she had with a guy who was a suspect which probably took place while she was with Knick. Unbelievable...
Not any more… but he was all into her before she shot her children.
@@lornarettig3215 yeah into her...for sex
Yeah, like any guy who got caught in an affair. All of a sudden she is crazy & obsessed. Plus you can tell he is recording this to prove his innocence & his wife is nearby so he can't talk normally.
@@teekolinski491 look i never said he was a nice guy ok lol
I bet he never had another affair again...
lmfao. 🤭😩
😂😂😂
lol or picked better. 😆
I bet he did.....
😆😁😄🤣😆😁
We all can see this man don’t care/never cared about Diane, she was just a quick lay. She took out her kids and ruin her life for a man who wasn’t gonna leave his wife. I hope this is a lesson to all women.
Yeah, blame him.
Diane sacrificed her precious children and threw her own life away for a man who didn't want her or no longer wanted her.
And men.
Personally I feel he knew she was crazy before the hookup and just went along with it so she wouldn’t do anything to him. I believe he never anticipated her involving her kids
He never really cared about anyone but himself. If Diane broke up with him he chased after her. He played her and his wife.
God what an exhausting conversation. What he ever saw in her defies imagination
Great job with vintage Diane Downs vids/audio
I am so hoping one day that someone gets the Joel Steinberg and Hedda Nussbaum trials - even just sound or transcripts. I still think about that poor little Lisa, she never got justice.
When she says that she told people Nick is going to get a divorce and marry her... He must have really bit his tongue, while thinking "fat chance in hell."
Lol
I guarantee he did tell her that. There is a paradigm that exists within most affairs. Men promise to leave their wives and fill their side piece’s head with promises of running off into the sunset together because their wife is a harpy that denies them attention and sex. He doesn’t leave. The married woman waxes poetic with her side piece about running off into the sunset to escape her domineering and abusive husband. The side dude prays she doesn’t leave because he doesn’t want a cheater to be his life partner. After careful planning to rake her husband over the coals, she leaves him. Yeah, there are deviations from these patterns but those are the outliers. 100% guaranteed that Knick promised her marriage at first, then realized Diane was taking his words seriously and backed off because the sex wasn’t worth it anymore. He never intended to leave Charlene, but it’s hard to get into a woman’s pants if you tell her how great your wife is and you just want to screw her when it’s convenient and then go back to playing happy family as soon as you wipe off your pork sword.
He basically told her would though. When she moved to Oregon he decided it was easier to stay with his wife (for the time being).
What trips me out is everyone else is wrong and she’s right about everything. Think about it! She’s delusional
Narcissistic
She's a psychopath.
Yes, she's a high end narcissist. Also called a psychopath. Sad story.
@@ginawhiteley8834 Not all narcissists are psychopaths but all psychopaths are narcissists.
So true. Every single person in Lane County who's said a word about her, or the events, is lying,-- EVERYONE, except her.
She who, oh btw, has a motive to lie lol.
Diane didnt want Nick to take the lie detector test bc she KNOWS he would pass it when they ask about when he saw the 22. She had it in her car when she moved.
Yes, she definitely doesn't want them to know she had the gun and she tried to gaslight him into thinking he didn't see the gun and instead there was a microwave. He sounds so uninterested in her, I don't know why she would keep calling him. He clearly doesn't care about her.
@@delilah2839
I think she keeps calling because she's genuinely in love with him. Knick is the only human being she's actually cared about her whole life, in the way WE understand caring.
With him, she breaks all sorts of patterns. For instance, he's the one person she defends to the cops (and anyone else), and doesn't ever try slandering behind his back, something she does without qualm to anyone else if it suits her.
He was so done with her.
When she said, that she was going to sue for 6 million dollars, he gasped in disbelief. He probably was thinking, yeah right you're going to win that case.😂
it was more like a scoff, but yeah
Who would even be thinking about a lawsuit after losing a child, and then having the other two taken away from them…..”it’s not a big thing, I’m going to win….” (Re. the lawsuit) GOOD GRIEF!!! She’s more worried about HERSELF. TEXTBOOK PSYCHOPATH!!!
She talks about Cheryl being shot like it's nothing.....she makes me sick!
I love how she says I miss and love u and he says alright take care bye 😂
Definitely noticed the cold shoulder
Well he had a wife he had worked things out with. He had already dropped Diane and she couldn’t accept it.
Wow he said she had a 22 in the back of her car and her daughter said she went to the back of the car and shot them ! 🎤
I never lost one of my children. I'm a mother of 4 but I did have a couple of miscarriages. I can't even wrap my head around how Diane is so calm and collected. She is more concerned about herself. Talking about a acar and returning to work??!! Talking about suing the state and all the money she's going to get?! I wasn't fit to even be around anyone. Time heals but it doesn't ever go away. I can't understand it.
I’ve got 4 grown kids - could never harm my babies ever.
Thanks so much for sharing these tapes. This is the first time I ever heard them as old as this case is. I subscribed to your channel. Looking forward to new content. You do a great job! Loving your channel!
Me to!! I’m so excited I found these!! I remember when this happened as a little girl.
She talks about Cheryl like she's a character in a book she read....so sad....
the microwave story and her denial about when he saw the .22 is pure gaslighting
Perfect example
Be explicit bot, whim is gaslighting who?
@@monicapylewhom is gaslighting who?
I wonder if she was trying to convince Nick not to do the lie detector to try and turn the police’s attention to him and his wife. She’s calculated, she could have been trying that with a number of people
BINGO!
Yes
“She is such a liar. “What have you told the police about me?” “Nothing”. After she just spent at least an hour pouring her heart out about her love for him at the hospital. Such a liar.
This is one I’m really looking forward too! Her parole videos will definitely put this in perspective!
One of the best You Tube channels. Happy I subscribed!
Did she say ‘When I got shot?” What about YOUR KIDS DIANE? Nobody cares that you got shot in your arm (self-inflicted) this is about those INNOCENT CHILDREN THAT GOT SHOT BY THEIR MOTHER! smh
Disgusting.
This was 40 years ago.
@@ChrisP3000x yes I know.. I followed it then… and she’s aged..
it’s still compelling.. she’s STILL, in her own warped, narcissistic, self-absorbed, non-chalant, twisted mind playing some kind of victim and has absolutely NO regard for those
poor innocent beautiful children THAT SHE SO COLD BLOODEDLY SHOT !
I’m confident there’s a place in HELL waiting on her!
DISGUSTING
@ChrisP3000x what is your point?
She refers to herself being shot and having a plate in her arm. She NEVER says anything about her children being shot, one of them fatally. Then she goes on about suing everybody. The woman couldn’t sound more guilty if she tried. She says she wants her kids back…probably to finish what she started.
You can tell she was guilty from the start. It’s crazy how she was talking about herself instead of her kids which is nuts. 09:20 she told on herself. 😳😳
Right!!! The very beginning… the way she re-enact the shooting, in her car fixing her hair, the car had bullet holes her daughter died & 2 in icu.. for me I don’t believe I could of step foot back in that car 😡 definitely guilty from jump all that laughing after she hit her cast on the steering wheel! Please
Can’t wait to hear the recording about the 2 men with ski mask story.
Yeah later she said it was just a dream she had but i can guarantee she didn't make it sound that way when she first told the story
Cheryl was dead on arrival, nobody knows how long it was after she short the kids and then drove to hospital. And btw she DID have gunshot residue on her hand-she said it was because she fought with the ‘killer’. She lies and lies. Well she’s in prison forever!!
Where can you find evidence of gunshot residue on her hands? Just wondering because that’s one of her supporters main arguments for her innocence. I read once that she washed it off at the hospital but have never heard there was GS residue evidence found on her
Yes, I can't find anything either. Inquiring minds want to know. 👍
Why don't you answer the question Eg: WHEN did they find gun residue on her hands ?? (you can't answer can you because...they didn't!🙄)
Where do you think she hid the gun? Strange how it was never found.
@@allwayscgood576I know her story changed, at first she didn't mention that the gun came into contact with her hand but she later said it did when she distracted the attacker by pretending to throw the keys lol (like you do with a dog)
Thank you for uploading These videos
How's the weather? Well Hell will be Hotter.
She is stone cold, nothing about the little girl who died!
Wonder how that lawsuit ended up 😂
When is the next tape coming out? I’m looking forward to it!!
I wonder if he came lovey dovey, we can be together now or slowly acted like he wanted to be back with her, I wonder then would she have admitted to him. Since she was crazy about him.
Love how she slipped and almost said her having the gun "proves...[I did it]..." at 12:48 - 13:14
Whoa. Listening to her she's doing her best to manipulate this poor guy.
He stuck his weener in her..
True
He is like, "whatever" to everything she says. He is realizing she is a damn fool.
so was he
@@dw3403
He's realizing that, too lol. He testified as much in court.
She is in prison where she belongs. Disturbing!
She's in an eternal hell
Until she catches up with the truth
And takes accountability for her sick sickness..
Mentally ill female.
Many lifetimes of abuse
To become the abuser
The amount of times he says: "Whatever". I can hear the eye roll 🙄
If someone talked to me like this id immediately understand they didn’t want to talk to me at ALL. They’d never hear from me again and there are no illusions. It’s all DELUSION for Diane
Then she asks him; "hows the weather?"
How calm she is when talking about her daughter being shot and killed. Beggars belief. Her days should be ended behind bars.
They will
But souls come back here
Fact
16:13 she said "I miss ya" and he was like "....." LOL
" I love ya "
" yep bye " 🤣🤣
When I got shot? Not when my children were shot, one of with were murdered and one, crippled, one more critical... they killed Cheryl, but no big deal...how's the weather?
It is so obvious that Diane is still interested in him. Diane has an exhausting personality. Don’t you just love it when she says “I miss you.” Unbelievable!
She didn't want him to take the lie detector test to keep the pressure on him
Nick is panicking thinking he's about to be locked up for life, he just wanted to be done and move on with his life.
He isn’t panicking at all he knows as well as the police she did it . He was never a suspect
@@marcymathieu4463 good to know, I didn't agree with them even questioning him but I guess they had to and he proved he had absolutely nothing to hide.
@@joseph07496 I think they set it up like that and he agreed to talk to her so she might slip up and say something so they could arrest her but she didn’t .
@@marcymathieu4463 oh ok, that makes sense, she loved being on TV, she's a true narcissist. I know Nick was so relieved to be done with her.
@@joseph07496 agree
I see why men liked Diane, she's concerned,not over concerned ,smooth and kind of detached, and most men like that.
No they don't you idiot.
⬆️⬆️🤣
A few Limited men.She's horrible and they have to be Complete morons.And most men Don't like that.
Matter of principle!! Im outraged..if someone shot my kids all bets go out the windows ..police can do whatever they want to find that person..give the whole city a lie detector. But than again we all know she was covering her own a$$ because of her guilt..
Shes so unbelievable its shocking..
Exactly!!! I'd be opening my doors, all my business, my friends, my relatives, like everything I could possibly give any access to, I'd do it QUICK
Good point!
I'm willing to bet that you were them who wanted us all to be vaccinated or lose freedom , then, too
But do excuse me though, if I am wrong! But it Is just that kind of thinking that empowers tyrannical action and bad actors. Although I do get what you're saying and where you're coming from! But just yeah.. the whole city, that's irrational. (which is kind of what I may be if someone killed my children. too - but let that not harm the innocent)
* The still recent (and as unanswered for as the first day our governments openly played tyrant with lockdowns) C Vaccination may be off topic, I can agree, but its fitting for your statement, because it is similar to how they acted. - Innocent (healthy/non risk/uninfected) be damned
What cruel parents name their child "Nick" Knickerbocker????
And wich woman has an affair with a Nick Knickerbocker?? Sounds stupid like Dick Dickidick
I thought the same thing 🤣
His name is Robert Knickerbocker. Everyone he worked with at the post office called him Nick.
Knickerbocker is his last name. (Nick) was his (nick) name at work. LOL!'
RAOFL
@4:25 it sounds like she was actually trying to flirt.
_"I'm glad you called. I was thinking about you real bad last night."_
Hey, Paul ~
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this was scary to listen to. it was clear diana wanted to manipulate him so he would not talk about the gun he saw. in my mind i thought diana was innocent. this call really shows she did not want anyone to share she had a gun like the one used for her kids :'( i think i would expect her also to talk more about her kids than talk about the weather :(
Oh, wow! You actually thought she was innocent? Who did you think did it, then? Seriously.
@@TariAkpodiete the bushy stranger, perhaps paid by the wife of her former lover to get back at her for interfering with their marriage.
@@TariAkpodiete I agree, how could anyone ever think she was innocent
@Mary Hamer pay attention...she randomly went down a road, so NO ONE could've known she'd be driving there.
Downs is as guilty as hell.
@Mary Hamer the police laughed at her description, ie, dishevelled bushy haired man is a normal description liars use to describe a non existent perpetrator.
Diane is weirdly good at manipulating a situation and sort of making sense with her lies. I would have been easily hoodwinked by her if she displayed her more normal same self. Now she is a bag of crazy.
you are right. she has gone crazy in prison. this video scared me beause it showed how manipulative she is
@@chubbyJess > she's still free here, hasn't been charged yet our had a trial.
@@TariAkpodiete yes. it really helped to see just how manipulative and evil she was.
It's strange how many people much younger than me I've seen deteriorate into insanity. I don't know if they lost the ability to hide it or just stopped trying. At least the ones who started out acting crazy you knew to stay away from.
@@TariAkpodiete Lol. Maybe not her lawsuit trial
Mind officially Blown ……..
Pure evil
15:16 omfg did she just try and blame his wife?! 😮
You said the f word, when you mentioned God.😮
“I plan to come out for a visit when this is over” seriously??
Ikr?
She came for a visit before it was over.
He hates her
But loves her drama on some mental levels
So FUCKING weird
people love drama
He told her he has to take a lie detector "next tuesday" and later he says "whenever they call me". The cops are behind this call.
His reaction was the same as mine when she said 'six million dollars'
He must have been so relieved when she left Arizona and then THIS. I wonder if he’s still alive.
He was about three years ago
He is, and still with his wife.
He is in perpetual hell
It’s clear Diane liked him much more than he liked her. He was never going to leave his wife for her
All she represented to him was sex on the side of his marriage. Narcissistic people use sex to control the emotions and feelings of people with manipulative behaviours and strategies.
He did leave his wife. He went back and forth between her and Diane. He fkd with her head.
@@TawnyC_he never left his wife for her, he was with his wife while carrying on an affair with her. that guy never had intentions on being with that nut job!!!
@@gr8fulone384 He did move out and leave his wife. Read the book.
Half killing her kids was because she thought they would die in hospital
The conversation is about her & covering her male friends nothing about her deceased child or her injured kids...Damn, if narcissist had a face hers would be it..
Diane is just... Evil in every sense. The only reason she got male attention is becuase she was some semblance of pretty.
I think she's ghastly and masculine! Ha! Even when she met the daughter she had in prison, she said to her, "I see you have my horrible protruding jaw"(something like that). Can you imagine?
Thank you !!
She’s afraid he’s was gna tell them she had the gun that’s all & she was trying to tell him it was a week & a half without actually telling him obviously
She said “I love you” at the end 😂😂
Yep lol I just commented the same thing!! "Ok take care of yourself.....I love you" bit** is crazy as all hell! Fr fr
🤣🤣🤣
Guilty guilty guilty
''They killed Cheryl. Cheryl was alive when she got there''. She is such a liar!
She said he was on a fishing trip when I got shot….. wow what a self centered B
Not "when we got shot" "when the kids got shot"
"I miss you"
"yeah"
LMAO he is so over her
" How's the weather?"
Major narcissist and seriously cold. blooded. Zero compassion or grief for the loss of her one daughter and zero compassion for serious injury to her other 2 children.
This man clearly did not want/ cared for this woman, she was just a hit it n quit it person 😅
Better watch the hit it and quit it women. Now he’s infamous forever for being the man she shot her kids for. No one wants to be remembered for that, anyone normal with empathy or heart, it has to have some affect on them. Could’ve been him or his wife. She tried to throw his wife under the bus.
Her face is a 90 degree angle with a nose.
Diane - “I love you”
Nick - “Bye.”
I would like to know what happened to the gun she used Did the police ever find it? Always loved Ann Rules books .
they never found it
"they" killed Cheryl??? Oh, hell no!! YOU killed Cheryl by shooting her, and you had tried your very best to kill your other kids.
How dare you blame anyone else!!!
Diane says she was hit in a main artery. That little girl could not have been alive on arrival at the ED. She had already bled out. Diane is a B for saying this.
Yeah and why would she say they I thought it was a him supposably
@@Platinumpuppy yeah plus she says to them they killed Cheryl her story was it was one man
@@RedGarnett-n2p diane knew so little about the human body that two of her kids survived. Her attitude against the Nurses and Doctors that worked to save her children is disgusting.
@@Platinumpuppy everything about her is disgusting
Wait… how did Chris Watts get into this picture???!!!
At 4:40, did she assume her legal troubles were over? But from Knick's attitude, it dawns on her, she gotta invent reasons he shouldn't help the cops.
She forgets normal so easily. Knock knock, who's there, normal calling. Hey, Diane, it's normal to want to help cops looking for a baby killer! Remember?!
No man is worth that
He sounds like he can’t stand her! Wrong person for him to get involved with!
They were on a fishing trip when " I GOT SHOT"
NOT HER KIDS.... no mention of the kids
I agree
She didn't want him to take the lie detector because he saw the 22 gun in her trunk the night before she left.
yup!
Im sure before the crime happened that this was the way he’d talk to her, in a nonchalant way, she should have already known that he didn’t care about her either, not just the kids.
That's certainly evident. I have no idea why she was so attached to him.
This gives me chills! He is SO on to her!
Took him long enough.
Oooh so good thanks
That man is wishing he’d have shot his self in the hand vs getting involved with Diane.
😂
Ha ha ha