Big Chains Vs Small Language Schools For Teaching English in Vietnam?
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- Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
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Speak to you soon,
Alex
I retired from teaching at private and government schools in Saigon in 2002. My first teachig job was in 1992 at Open University. It only lasted three days and got me kicked out of the country. My last job was as Director of Studies at ABC. (American Business College) In between I worked as a teacher or administrator for VUS, CADASA, VATC, Saigon Travel and Tourism School, Dong Minh, Dai Hoc Su Pham, BEST, and countless other private and government schools as well as at private and government companies. The only document I ever had to show was a copy of my University BS Degree. Not even notarized. Today I am sure that there are more demands for certification because there are too many teachers applying. Years ago the supply of foreign teachers came no where near reaching the demand. The domestic bureaucracy has finally caught up with the reality, at least when it will financially benefit them. I would suggest going outside of Ho Chi Minh City to find teaching experiences. If you don't want to just be a cog in the teaching-of-English machine that currently exists in Ho Chi Minh City then apply your desires and imagination to different locations across the country. The Mekong Delta and the Highlands offer a much more inviting and healthy environment. You will enjoy your time even more.
Hoa binh
Wow you have a lot of experience!
There are a lot of opportunities in Ho Chi Minh City, and more in other areas of Vietnam too springing up.
But it's important to be realistic with people. I took a lot of your information to heart when I came here and was so optimistic about getting a quality job, but it's hard to find in HCMC (even with a CELTA, university degree and 3 months experience as a tutor and substitute teacher).
It is true that jobs (in general) fall from the trees here, but most of what westerners would consider "good jobs" are only being offered to people with 1-3 years of experience.
CK- If a school, or a company, wants you to work for them then they will hire you and deal with the paper qualifications, if required. As for the experience it doesn't matter how much or how little you have. They will offer you a job if they think that you can help them to be successful. I never said there wasn't competition here.
Sorry Greg, but this response is really directed to Alex. Right in this video, he says that all you need is a TEFL certificate, a university degree, and native knowledge of the language. This is overly optimistic in most cases, especially in HCMC.
Hi Alex,
I want to take the opportunity to thank you for all of your incredibly informative and useful videos!
I am currently living and working as an ESL teacher in Shanghai China, and will be moving to HCMC at the beginning of August to do a 150hr in class TESOL course, and then moving to Hanoi at the end of August.
I would like to ask, what is the situation with teaching at public schools in Vietnam (particularly Hanoi)?
I have noticed that the kinds of jobs usually discussed in Vietnam are in English centres, typically on evenings and weekends. My fiancee works full time 9am-6pm, and I am hoping to find a job that also has me working between these times, so that we can spend our evening and weekends together.
Are these kinds of jobs available in Vietnam?
No problem Theo - you might be doing our TEFL in Vietnam course if you found it through a different route: ninjateacher.com/tefl-vietnam ;)
There are jobs like that, although a bit less common. Working for an agency that sends you out to public schools with weekday daytime hours might be a good option for you.
Alternatively I work with some of the top private language centers which might not have the exact hours you want but we can see what we can find if you send your resume through: ninjateacher.com/apply
Hi Alex, I am presently in Thailand and have worked here 5years, now I am looking atVietnam. What are the opportunities for me at 52 years old ?
Hi Alex . I'm heading to Hanoi in 4 weeks . I have a degree and a pgce with 4 years class experience(non ESL) . I'm looking for one of the more established teaching positions you mentioned with an international school. I guess my question is; will an online TEFL cert suffice if I have a pgce and I am already an established teacher? I am also a native from the UK. Thanks in advance
I plan to do some volunteering alongside an online cert to prepare for a paid position . I figured a month volunteering in the classroom somewhere would probably be the perfect way to prepare rather than a classroom TEFL program which are generally geared up to prepare total newbs . I suppose I just though that Given my quals and levels of experience already this would be a better option . I'd appreciate your thoughts . Thanks
Hi.... Alex am an Indian I would like to teach English abroad. Can i ? Vietnam?
Hey Alex, thanks for all the information. I'm thinking of applying for the November-December TEFL course via your website. I have a degree and a 120 hour online TEFL but I want to do the in-class version before I start teaching. Quick question though, I'm worried things might be a bit slow on the job front around November/December, are there still plenty of jobs going in HCMC around then?
Nice! Definitely a good choice, can't recommend an in class course enough. Shouldn't be a problem, we place teachers after the courses every month of the year. Worst case it's pretty easy to pick up some part time work to tide you over! Definitely send over your info on my site and we can set up a time to chat about getting you started! ninjateacher.com/apply
Awesome. Cheers for the quick reply, I'll get everything over asap.
Hey Alex, sent my info over this morning so should be with you now. Cheers, Matt.
Hey Alex! Thanks a lot for the great info here. I'm thinking about coming to Vietnam in September or so. I have a bachelor's, celta, am a native speaker, and have almost 2 years of experience, how much do you think I could make per hour or per month there?
Thanks for all the videos you've put up, they've helped me a lot with my plans to Vietnam.
Also, what would you recommend is the best kind of schools I (and people with similar qualifications) should apply to? Universities, big chain schools, international schools, etc.? Any advice would be verrry much appreciated. Thanks!
Hey Jason! Nice you're really well qualified. You could probably make $1500 - $2000 quite easily with a fairly relaxed schedule, maybe 20 teaching hours per week.
I'd definitely shoot for the big chains I mention in the video. You could also apply for international school where you could earn more but you would also typically working more and have more responsibility.
Definitely apply on my site, takes 2 minutes, and I can connect you with some options: ninjateacher.com/apply
Awesome! Thanks for the reply Alex. $1600 - $2000 sounds very enticing, with cost of living being around $800? I'm gonna have to head there asap haha.
Ok cool, I'll check it out.
Hi Alex
Just wondering if the bigger chains in South Korea requires you to have a degree in teaching of will a CELTA suffice?
A degree in any subject plus CELTA / TEFL is fine to apply.
Hey Alex, So I have been looking into S Korea, and a friend told me they usually look for people with TEFL/TESOL certified with 250+ Hours. All I could find from places like OXFORD are 100 hours. Can you help or clarify with this please? Thanks! :)
Nah that's nonsense.
120 hours TEFL is fine. Preference in South Korea is for younger North American teachers. Female preferred.
Not impossible if you don't fit that but harder to find jobs.
What about public schools in Vietnam?
If I took a Celta course, would that mean I could only teach adults? If I took the TEFL course, could I teach children or adults? In the future, I had planned on teaching in Thailand, which I believe the TEFL certificate is preferred, but would the Celta certificate be a problem in Thailand, if I took that course? Lastly, I am a mature student, with work experience mostly in hospitality, but I do have some gaps in my cv, would this be a problem. Thanks, Marc
you can teach anyone with either a celta or tefl. celta is the gold standard in terms of designation
The CELTA course focuses on teaching adults but the methodology applies to children too. So yes you can teach both.
As a mature student I would recommend a CELTA and focusing on Vietnam to maximize your chances of landing a good job.
Or better yet, we've had great success placing 40 - 60 year olds in jobs in Vietnam through our TEFL in Vietnam program: ninjateacher.com/tefl-vietnam
Hello Alex do you think you will eventually branch out to cambodia and start the inclass training there? as I would be 100% interested
Hey Michael, this is still kind of a secret but I might have something for you on that! Send me a message about it on my site and I'll give you details: ninjateacher.com/contact
+Alex Stevenson will do :)
Certified documents? So do I have to get them apostled? or is an official transcript enough?
Yes, they need to be notarized. If you apply on my site I have a PDF guide I can send to you: ninjateacher.com/apply
what about an Indian.....why no test of englist why our ethnicity is a problem?
Hi there, I'm a teacher currently based in Thailand but interested in coming to Korea. I'd prefer a public school over a private one so I have applied through EPIK but am open to hagwons too. I'm having problems however, updating my criminal background check and getting an apostille document because I'm not in my home country. Do you have any experience with this? Also, I'm quite anxious to food, I'm a picky eater and have had problems with Thai food. I have little knowledge of Korean food and am worried if I don't like it I won't be able to find other international stuff if I get placed in small town or rural area.
Hi Jay. Cool, EPIK is your best bet for public schools but can be competitive. My partners in Korea I work closely with place 100s of people per year in great private academy jobs though so I wouldn't be too worried if you don't get in.
For Korea it's important to get an original background check from your home country (and get it certified) that's only valid for 6 months. It depends what country you're from but that can be tricky to impossible from abroad.
You can try some Korean food at restaurants in Bangkok to see if you like it...