Thank you for this one and for the extra content about Christina. When the Peeew! first started, it seemed that Michael was in a good place, but over time his slide back to self-destruction became obvious. Sadly, the end did not come as a surprise.
Always good to see more of your videos. Interesting to hear Michael Alig wouldn't answer key questions on Christina. I guess those moments will always remain a mystery. Christina and her struggles are more relevant today than ever, so I suppose it's fitting there are still pieces we can't put together.
I hope that u do the Christina deep dive sooner rather than later. it's clear that she's a fan favorite. I like the camera dude, too. I think its because watching his insecurities play out on camera helps me (like in a cathartic way) put some of MY more superfluous insecurities into a(n) more manageable perspective.
Ty for this. Screw, James St. James. Love to the actual artists behind the scene that made WOW productions what it is today. Artists will continue to regurgitate, Michael's, work for years, and not even give him a head nod.
I was literally just thinking about you and you upload! Great to hear from you as always. I wish we could learn more about Christina. I have a soft spot for her. Hope you’re doing well 💜
I wonder why Michael didn't want to talk about Christina. It seemed to me that Nelson was the only one of her friends that really appreciated her Another interesting video RR😊👍
Christina wasn't easy to get to know because of her mental illness as I recall. Yes she was around a bit but despite what you see in Nelson's videos we didn't all live in each other's pockets and like all social groups there was different levels of friendship and not everyone enjoyed Christina.
@@left6228 That makes sense, I think I was influenced by seeing the video where Nelson was talking about Christina's death and in the background his friends were making jokes about Christina, Nelson just ignored them stared at the camera. I think he had a lot of compassion for her. I'm sure you know more than me since you were there.
@@marigold7250 I'd agree with you there regarding Nelson, whilst on occasion he could be quite cutting he was genuinely a lovely man and he treated Christina impeccably. To what extent she was cognisant of what a good friend he was I'm not certain as she was often away with the fairies so to speak but she seemed to always appreciate seeing Nelson and they'd often turn up places together.
Oh HELL yes a new video!!!! Can you tell us what happened to the rest of Nelson Sullivans videos? It was rumored through the 5th avenue project that his brother was in possession of them, but then he passed away. Maybe they were donated to a library or something?
I would like to add this yes I would like to find out so much more about Christina she deserved so much more than what she got and how she has been portrayed also I just like to add that club kid Angel was actually a nice kid and yes I understand he was a drug dealer but do you really think it was okay for Michael Alig to kill him maybe now they can both be at peace but I am still not in agreeance with what he did in those days
Thanks for another great vid, Retro. I’m curious, how did you come to know and follow the club kids? Was it thru Nelson’s videos or?? Maybe the next time you do a deep dive on something you could explain that, I’m just curious… I love the work of Nelson Sullivan and I am so grateful his work is appreciated all these years later. I’m also curious about his special relationship with Christina, (what a character) and seriously hope more of his vids are released. I wonder if we could start a petition or something.
Retro room, did you personally know Michael Alig? Were you a club kid yourself back in the late 80's and 90's? Thank you for these video's and keeping my memory of my party days in the club kids era alive. RiP Michael Ali.❤
Just think , all he had to do was say it was self defense that night The guy was a drug dealer and we all know how cops were back then or rather the system. Both of them would have never been charged cause the DA would have no proof that it wasnt self defense. Then now Micheal and prob some of his friends would be very well off with tv shows and products clothing lines the works. Micheal would prob be a club owner now...the whole thing is sad beyond belief. I remember one time at the World...I think it was Micheal they all looked alike to me... with some girl and they wouldnt keep walking down these stairs and I pushed him and yelled "MOVE GURL" he looked back and saw I was a regular of the latino pier queen gays and said nothing but gave me a creepy smile...but i got him to keep walking jajajaja.
It was on Christmas Eve technically, but the cops were not called until 3 am. There is a four-hour-window unaccounted for. The toxicology showed Xanax and fentanyl, as well as H. There was a flood of fent on the scene at the time, but, Ben Silva, is the person that watched him die and didn't call the cops for hours 🙄. The NYPD was less than forthcoming with help in any way. As for why he didn't live with his mom...he was a New York boy at heart, he knew that's where art is relevant. Plus, Elke, his mom -has her own issues...she threw him out the last time he visited before he died. There is a reason Club Kids saw each other as family. Most our blood relatives suck.
With Christina, as a native German, she isn't a native German. I hate to say this, but how she talks w her fake accent, Germans do not sound or pronounce words as she does. For instance, the W in German is pronounced as a V. When she says words with the W, she clearly pronounces the W with ease as where a German, we have a difficult time making the W sound Was. Same with the V sound. In German it's mainly pronounced as a F, she clearly pronounces it like an American with a northern accent. I love hearing and watching the rare vids. I know her accent and facade she portrays is her image. You can invent yourself anyway you want and she has done a amazing job. No disrespect to get. But this comment is referring to Align saying she German. We all know she isn't, but gives great scenery and content for us to watch. Nelson captured a hidden society in which very people say or knew about. Rest his soul. A true gent who deserves nothing, but praise and thanks for the many hours he captured on film. Thank you retro room bringing up Christina. She is far by the most interesting of the characters nelson captured on film. Too bad he did not get more and lived. Back to Christina and her accent. Watch the one video where Nelson records her going to a photo shoot and she leaves her glasses. Her real Pennsylvania accent comes out when she is asking from the street to a flat above about leaving her sunglasses. Listen to her complete sentence and how she calls them horse blinders referring to her shades.
How about acculturation process and her speech being impacted by the environment in which Christina was raised? You can’t tell whether she was the first generation German growing up by watching just a few videos. Also, I did hear where she said V instead of W on one of the videos.
He’s not the greatest person in the world, but the world isn’t great either. Seems like everyone was trying to make a dollar off of him. He deserved better. To try to be rehabilitated and heal. No one gave him the chance.
Oh wow didn’t expect this popping up. Happy to see you in my notifications
Thank you 🙏 J.London
I appreciate that 👍
Thank you for this one and for the extra content about Christina. When the Peeew! first started, it seemed that Michael was in a good place, but over time his slide back to self-destruction became obvious. Sadly, the end did not come as a surprise.
🙏 I agree. I’m always happy to talk about Christina 😊
Always good to see more of your videos. Interesting to hear Michael Alig wouldn't answer key questions on Christina. I guess those moments will always remain a mystery. Christina and her struggles are more relevant today than ever, so I suppose it's fitting there are still pieces we can't put together.
Thank you 🙏 Ken George Jones
I guess there are some answers we may never have.
Oh wow my question was answered about Christina! Thank you!
You are very welcome 🙏 Craig G
Hello, good to see a new video. Happy Sunday 😊
Thank you famasmaster2000 🙏😀
lol rachel was the one who threw his farewell.... wow. she also is the one who used the situation for personal gain, ol wowwww.
I hope that u do the Christina deep dive sooner rather than later. it's clear that she's a fan favorite. I like the camera dude, too. I think its because watching his insecurities play out on camera helps me (like in a cathartic way) put some of MY more superfluous insecurities into a(n) more manageable perspective.
I could talk about Christina all day long 😊👍
Glad to see you back. 😉
Thanks ReefRider 🙏
Christina deserved much better in life. Imagine being treated like that on your birthday, who needs enemies with friends like that?!
I know, Right!?
I'm so happy to see you making videos still. I love your channel!
Thank you 🙏 MozWildeFul 😊
Ty for this. Screw, James St. James. Love to the actual artists behind the scene that made WOW productions what it is today. Artists will continue to regurgitate, Michael's, work for years, and not even give him a head nod.
I was literally just thinking about you and you upload! Great to hear from you as always. I wish we could learn more about Christina. I have a soft spot for her. Hope you’re doing well 💜
Thank you 🙏 Queen Groove ❤️
I have a soft spot for Christina too ☺️
I wonder why Michael didn't want to talk about Christina. It seemed to me that Nelson was the only one of her friends that really appreciated her Another interesting video RR😊👍
Thank you 🙏 Marigold
I wonder why, too
Christina wasn't easy to get to know because of her mental illness as I recall. Yes she was around a bit but despite what you see in Nelson's videos we didn't all live in each other's pockets and like all social groups there was different levels of friendship and not everyone enjoyed Christina.
@@left6228 That makes sense, I think I was influenced by seeing the video where Nelson was talking about Christina's death and in the background his friends were making jokes about Christina, Nelson just ignored them stared at the camera. I think he had a lot of compassion for her. I'm sure you know more than me since you were there.
@@marigold7250 I'd agree with you there regarding Nelson, whilst on occasion he could be quite cutting he was genuinely a lovely man and he treated Christina impeccably. To what extent she was cognisant of what a good friend he was I'm not certain as she was often away with the fairies so to speak but she seemed to always appreciate seeing Nelson and they'd often turn up places together.
@@left6228 Thanks for sharing that. I know Nelson wasn't perfect either but the love he had for Christina really came across in his videos.
So happy to see this video from you! Great content as always. Thank you. Both Michael & Christina had very sad endings ….. 😔
Thanks 🙏 Cece Max 😊
Oh HELL yes a new video!!!! Can you tell us what happened to the rest of Nelson Sullivans videos? It was rumored through the 5th avenue project that his brother was in possession of them, but then he passed away. Maybe they were donated to a library or something?
I would like to add this yes I would like to find out so much more about Christina she deserved so much more than what she got and how she has been portrayed also I just like to add that club kid Angel was actually a nice kid and yes I understand he was a drug dealer but do you really think it was okay for Michael Alig to kill him maybe now they can both be at peace but I am still not in agreeance with what he did in those days
Do you know if there is any footage of the outlaw they had for Michael after he passed away ?
I will have to look 👀 into that Tania Maria
@@RetroRoomYT lol thank you!
Great content as always, thanks so much! 😊
Thank you Terri Jo Films 🙏 👍
What do you know about the 3rd person that was there the night Angel died? I've heard little tidbits here & there. Thanks for your videos, love them.
We are definitely going to talk about this
Thanks 🙏 Donna Spicuzza
Always love a new video from you doll.XOXO
Kimberly Mason, thank you 🙏 😊
Thanks for another great vid, Retro. I’m curious, how did you come to know and follow the club kids? Was it thru Nelson’s videos or?? Maybe the next time you do a deep dive on something you could explain that, I’m just curious… I love the work of Nelson Sullivan and I am so grateful his work is appreciated all these years later. I’m also curious about his special relationship with Christina, (what a character) and seriously hope more of his vids are released. I wonder if we could start a petition or something.
Retro room, did you personally know Michael Alig? Were you a club kid yourself back in the late 80's and 90's? Thank you for these video's and keeping my memory of my party days in the club kids era alive. RiP Michael Ali.❤
Just think , all he had to do was say it was self defense that night The guy was a drug dealer and we all know how cops were back then or rather the system. Both of them would have never been charged cause the DA would have no proof that it wasnt self defense. Then now Micheal and prob some of his friends would be very well off with tv shows and products clothing lines the works. Micheal would prob be a club owner now...the whole thing is sad beyond belief. I remember one time at the World...I think it was Micheal they all looked alike to me... with some girl and they wouldnt keep walking down these stairs and I pushed him and yelled "MOVE GURL" he looked back and saw I was a regular of the latino pier queen gays and said nothing but gave me a creepy smile...but i got him to keep walking jajajaja.
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When did Michael die? What was his cause of death?
Year and a half ago, heroin overdose
Christmas 🤶 2020
@@RetroRoomYT Wow.. Thanks..
It was on Christmas Eve technically, but the cops were not called until 3 am. There is a four-hour-window unaccounted for. The toxicology showed Xanax and fentanyl, as well as H. There was a flood of fent on the scene at the time, but, Ben Silva, is the person that watched him die and didn't call the cops for hours 🙄. The NYPD was less than forthcoming with help in any way. As for why he didn't live with his mom...he was a New York boy at heart, he knew that's where art is relevant. Plus, Elke, his mom -has her own issues...she threw him out the last time he visited before he died. There is a reason Club Kids saw each other as family. Most our blood relatives suck.
Dec 25th, 2020, cause of death was DO.
Did U like the portrayal of Michael n James St James in party monster and how the club kids were portrayed?
Michael wasn't a busser at the Tunnel in 87. He was already organizing well-documented parties, then.
With Christina, as a native German, she isn't a native German. I hate to say this, but how she talks w her fake accent, Germans do not sound or pronounce words as she does. For instance, the W in German is pronounced as a V. When she says words with the W, she clearly pronounces the W with ease as where a German, we have a difficult time making the W sound Was. Same with the V sound. In German it's mainly pronounced as a F, she clearly pronounces it like an American with a northern accent. I love hearing and watching the rare vids. I know her accent and facade she portrays is her image. You can invent yourself anyway you want and she has done a amazing job. No disrespect to get. But this comment is referring to Align saying she German. We all know she isn't, but gives great scenery and content for us to watch. Nelson captured a hidden society in which very people say or knew about. Rest his soul. A true gent who deserves nothing, but praise and thanks for the many hours he captured on film. Thank you retro room bringing up Christina. She is far by the most interesting of the characters nelson captured on film. Too bad he did not get more and lived. Back to Christina and her accent. Watch the one video where Nelson records her going to a photo shoot and she leaves her glasses. Her real Pennsylvania accent comes out when she is asking from the street to a flat above about leaving her sunglasses. Listen to her complete sentence and how she calls them horse blinders referring to her shades.
How about acculturation process and her speech being impacted by the environment in which Christina was raised? You can’t tell whether she was the first generation German growing up by watching just a few videos. Also, I did hear where she said V instead of W on one of the videos.
He’s not the greatest person in the world, but the world isn’t great either. Seems like everyone was trying to make a dollar off of him. He deserved better. To try to be rehabilitated and heal. No one gave him the chance.