Josh Allen: The CORRECT Choice for NFL MVP (It's Not Particularly Close)
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- Опубліковано 11 січ 2024
- For whatever reason, there seems to be a rule to not to acknowledging how good Josh Allen is. Well, I am here to break rules. Not only should Josh Allen be a Pro-Bowler and an All-Pro but he should be the league's MVP. #gobills
Clips courtesy of @GeaWhit, ESPN, FOX Sports, The Buffalo Bills, CBS Sports, NFL Films and the NFL.
:00 Intro
:58 Turnovers but with CONTEXT
02:20 Clutch
03:23 Why Context Matters
03:40 The Stats that MATTER
05:29 Comparing MVP Candidates
06:10 Final Thoughts
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Tom Brady had 7 more interceptions than Allen has Rt now, at the same point in their careers, yet nobody called Brady a turnover machine. Peyton Manning also had more too. Josh is so good he is given less grace than any other QB when it comes to mistakes. He was robbed by the Pro Bowl and was better this year than both other selections. It seems like it's "cool to hate" Josh Allen.
Different game
He's not in Tom Brady or Peyton Manning's league.
Mahomes had 22 interceptions in his MVP season, more than Allen has now, nobody criticized him that way. I disagree, he is def in the same category as those QBs, just like I think Elway, Montana, Young, Kelly, Marino, and a lot of other HOF caliber QBs are. I think Marino was more talented than Manning or Brady but was in a worse situation. All these guys are elite talent. 4 years of 40+ TDs is elite. Allen already has a ton of records.
@@OnlyGamingClips lol dude had 15 rushing TDs mainly from tush push. Lol add context to the stats
@@tdup191 We aren't talking about Jalen Hurts though. This video is about Josh Allen.
Josh Allen is one of the most underrated players in the nfl. No one gives him his credit.
including you. by saying he's just underrated, you are actually underrating him. He's the best qb in the game, and he's also underratted. There i fixed it for you.
@@brianhenry7983Nailed it!
What are you talking about other than Nick Wright every other media person talks like Allen is God's gift to the NFL. It's Lamar who doesn't get credit for all that he does in Baltimore.
@@brianhenry7983this year Josh Allen has definitely outplayed mahomes and everyone else however it’s the early 6-6 record that everyone views as not MVP worthy (NOT ME THO)
@@spomusmo2349Lamar rode his defense all year his MVP year he had 36 tds he has like 20 rn NOT MVP NUMBERS
The fact that you can show them facts yet they would still tell you Allen don’t deserve MVP.
It isn't the fact that he isn't being called the mvp that's strange. It's the fact that it isn't even a debate. And that's why you have to believe there's always something going on behind scenes.
Edit: thanks for the likes and responses but another thing just dawned on me. If Allen beats the Chiefs this weekend and Lamar loses to the Texans, both a big, "if," but if that happens and Lamar is still frontrunner, then that's all the proof you need and it sucks that if the opposite happens, Allen has no case at all.
I wonder why the anti white media would be against white quarterbacks...?? hmmm....
Not really. He was being called the frontrunner for mvp up until the midseason collapse. Then people forgot about him because the team wasnt doing as well. Nothing behind the scenes
@@thezackast2752 that's fair but this is by far the most, "what have you done for me lately," league and once that happened he completely dropped out. And even then he wasn't being touted as the mvp anymore than dak, Tua, McCaffrey etc.
No QB cost their team the game more than josh allen. A MVP win despite everything else going wrong… Bills lose because JA.
@@jefeseason4990 Did you even watch the video? Data says you are 100% wrong.
Lamar has been gr8 for the Ravens but josh leading the bills to the 2 seed after being outside the wildcard is kinda crazy. Got the wins and stats as well. I wont be upset if he wins it.
Lamar led he team to the 1 seed. That is better than what Josh did. Miami being frauds exposed by Lamar is why the bills were able to get the 2 seed
So we should celebrate the guy who lead his team to second place. How about the guy who was 11 and 2 against 500 teams.
@@omeeawakened2371First off no, just no the bills beat the snot of Miami early in the year. Lost three major defensive players in two games, came back from a 6-6 to win second seed. While Lamar while playing great, hasn't done a ton. The ravens defense did alot more for him then he's done for the team. When your defense generates alot of turnovers it allows you to have an easier time to not only score more. But make you look better when you get ints and such half way down the field. It's a lot easier to get a TD off 50 the yardline. The starting from the 25 or so. That's the misconception here, by a large margin. Lamar didn't run 13-15 yards throw linebackers to get a first down on 4th down to keep the chains moving etc. To help lead their team to a victory. Josh Allen is 80% or more of his offense. Without him the bills are nothing. Lamars offense is maybe 50-60 % at least of this year anyway. He's had to do less to achieve more. Up till recently there was only 1-2 games where Josh didn't have to do everything. So with using facts and logic. This clearly points to Allen being the clear cut MVP. But again votes count instead of facts. Everyone wants to keep just throwing Lamar out there like he wasn't considered anything. When he won a MVP already and only won a single playoff game. So I'm not sure how you can sit here dead ass and go well Lamar is great but folds in the playoffs all the time. Dude has more ints then TDs in the playoffs. But has one of the best coaches in the game as well. So yeah idk all I'm saying is there is a lot of random stats to take into consideration before trying to justify one guy.
Bro Allen was part of the reason they were in that situation in the first place what are y’all talking about. He put the team in a hole and had to get out of that hole, good.
@@lsjmartin6220 So it's Allen's fault the coaches missing 12 men on the field or how the defense gave up big plays for TDs when Allen got them ahead in the game ? What sense are you trying to make. The whole video shows how even Mahomes does the same crap and is considered of the best QBs of all time. So stop pretending like josh Allen isn't. He's the only QB that can flick a football 50 yards across his chest. And do some crazy crap. You ain't seeing Lamar or Patty do the the things this man does. People keep trying to compare him to Philip rivers or big Ben or even Brett farve. But he's way better then those guys and is alot more athletic. He should've gotten the MVP in 2020 by a mile and got it taken from him. But even then this year his stats are even more crazy and he is still not and MVP because of games that were lost of not his fault. The dude just helped dig the team out of a playoff loss. And brought them back. Again the whole point of the video is to show that ints and turnovers aren't the whole story. And every QB is going to have them.
It's hilarious how people have this conversation every year. The MVP does not go to who is most valuable to their team, nor does it go to the guy with the best stats, best record, etc. It goes to who the voters decide it should go to. That's it.
Y’all talking like Lamar isn’t one of this most doubted qb in the league the man won a unanimous mvp and there still people saying is not a top 5 qb or elite one or doesn’t deserve his contract media certainly don’t want Lamar to win it is not the typical pocket passer and all their analyst said he would fell off before entering the nfl. They vote Lamar now bc no other qb has played better than him when going up against him and he destroyed 2 top team back to back. Dak would actually have a better case than josh Allen atleast
But it is supposed to go to a teams most valuable player. You dont have to have the best stats in every category.
@lowky5698 I especially liked his 101yd td pass to Teron Johnson in the Bills playoff game a couple years ago! Couldn't win without it!
Just a popularity contest. I think the real MVP is the Superbowl MVP. Pretty tough to be about politics in that case
@@Redwood414 that's just over a single game. Any schmuck could get that.
Josh Allen is my MVP
Mine too
Lol too bad yall don't have votes 😂
Cool but he aint even a mvp. When it comes to the definition of mvp its lamar so regardless of who is your mvp in your mind that has nothing to do with who is actually the league mvp... Josh is the only person that gets credit for putting out fires he start... That man has had his team in trouble the entire season😂😂😂 lamar the mvp. He has set out multiple qtrs this season because lamar has been dominant and not putting his team in positions to where he had to play hero ball in the 4th QTR😂😂😂 the guy that costs his team is your mvp
James WINSTON-IS MY MVP 😂😂😂
@@garysmithjr2166your Litteraly a fanboy ignoring all the clear mvp numbers Josh Allen put up yet you want a guy that’s not top ten in passing yards or passing TDs to be mvp what a joke you should be ashamed
Thank you for this!! If Mahomes or Burrow had the exact same season as Allen, they would be the MVP. It’s a travesty that Allen is the only QB with 40 TDs in 4 consecutive seasons and has no MVPs.
Allen has never thrown an int in the last 4 min of a game when the Bills were winning. He doesn’t throw games away.
Allen also makes up a way higher % of his teams offense, both scoring and yards, than any other QB in the league.
Love the video!!!
@Stratoliner5 I agree, it’s a narrative based award. It’s not about the player who is the best or the most valuable. It’s about the player tua makes the best story. It’s a joke!!
Let’s not brush off like it’s not his fault for his team being 6-6 Lamar played great enough to win those games let’s not discredit him, josh Allen is a game changer but he can shoot his team in the foot with those turnovers
@@carloshoward7461 Allen was the biggest factor in the week 1 loss. No argument there. Now move past that one. Allen and the Bills offense had a lead in 4 out of the other 5 Bills losses in the last 2 minutes of the game. How is that on Allen. No matter what mistakes he made in those games, he had his team in a position to win at the end of those games. That’s all an elite QB can do.
@@mafiamom3556 Allen gets all the credit so it's fair that he also gets the blame.
@@mafiamom3556 okay, but when compared to Lamar season he made sure his team clinched number 1 seed in week 17, how’s that not MVP, you talk about impact? The ravens wouldn’t be number 1 seed without him & tbh nor made the playoffs. & let’s not forget Allen has a top 7 WR In Steffon diggs.
I've said for a long time that he's more valuable to his team than any other player. When the team is struggling he just takes it on his own shoulders and does what he has to.
Your breakdown is a bit more compelling than my take though 😂 good job
He alone accounted for like 80% of his teams points.
Lamar might not even have accounted for 50% of the his teams points.
I’ve been saying Allen is MVP over Lamar yet people only mention turnovers like they not apart of the game.
Personally turnovers are not my issue, its just his passing in general, Things like individual touchdowns are the worst metric. I agree he has better stats than lamar but If were going off of that, tua and brock should be mvp
@@matthewmorrissey3571 so you think tua who lost his division, couldnt beat a winning team and has folded in the month of december every season should be an MVP... lol cant be real life
No my point is that if you only use numbers system quarterbacks like tua or brock would be the best@@ShinobiXXXBDO
@@matthewmorrissey3571 Lamar stats are also based on him sitting in the 4th quarter in at least 6 games due to massive leads and him sitting week 18 having already clinched the #1 seed.
Allen .70..picks in 6 years .Manning..Marino .100
That's my guy. I hope he wins SB MVP this season.
He's never even going to get there
Great video and presentation of alternative stats. The problem being that those who vote, and those on most of the NFL shows who like to yell about stuff, don't care about all the nuance in the stats, and gravitate to turnovers, and turnovers only, which then defines or influences most peoples views. This will never change b/c that is not how the NFL shows create viewership (revenue), so I would never expect them to get to a true statistical analysis (and likely most aren't equiped to do so anyhow) save for PFF.
Exactly. Great points.
Josh Allen has literally transformed his team into superbowl threat. His playoff turnovers is remarkable. Flying under the radar this humble giant has unfinished business this year.
The defense has turned them into a threat. 6 game winning streak has been mediocre at best
They almost lost to Miami, New England, the chargers. They are not that good to go all the way.
@@danmatthews5364they swept the dolphins and won against the chargers and lost against new england once check the box score b4 u say something dumbass 💀💀
They’ve literally relied on him less during the wining streak what are you talking about
@@danmatthews5364 the ravens actually did lose to the steelers
comparing lamars tds to allen is crazy when you talk about context.. first of all allen played more games than lamar, lamar gives the ball off to his rb and doesnt stat pad against terrible teams, lamar has 10 wins against teams that have a winning record as well as blowing out 4+ division leaders... it's many more to argue but thats some things to apply
Allen was 6-1 with 17 TDs to 5 ints against playoff teams. Most of his rushing TDs were for more than 5 yards. He’s not tush pushing like Hurts.
It’s not crazy and the context is there. Allen has had a better year than Lamar.
@@larry2281 check their playoff stats in the divisional and we'll see
@@20ksr Allen has 27 tds to 4 ints
Lamar has 7 tds to 5 ints
It’s not that close
@@larry2281 allen is has made 1 championship with a wr1 a great defense and weapons ever since hes been in the playoffs, this is lamar's first year with weapons, lets not get into depth how allen is also 0-3 against 1 person in the playoffs 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Great analysis. You bring up many great points. Get this video OUT THERE for everyone to see.
He would like more winning the SuperBowl instead of the MVP, that's more valuable. Go Bills!
He is not going to win the Super Bowl
Phenomenal video as always. I love the in depth breakdown, and nuanced analysis.
The argument for Josh Allen is cogent and conclusive.
Much appreciated!
He's not gonna win MVP, he didn't make Probowl or All pro. So there's only one thing left for him to do. WIN THE WHOLE FKN THING!
🏆🔴⚪🔵😤😤😤🔵⚪🔴🏆
He should've made the pro bowl over Mahomes
Pro bowl is a joke
@@Big-O43probowl is a joke but it’s just the disrespect he’s not even an alternate this year.
@@JA-xe9vf and the NFL is a laughing stock because of it, but luckily josh has said since day one he dont give a shit about probowls, he even declined when he was given it, hence why mac jones went to a probowl, its because he was chosen its cuz josh said nah im good on that
@@JA-xe9vf I know, the starting QB's suck
I don’t know how people still can’t see that the difference Lamar makes doesn’t show on the stat sheets
Exactly stats are everything accounting ravens is not a passing team but when he does he makes it count. Josh has had Stephon Diggs and can't get it done with 11-6 record and not dominating teams worth talking about. They stop the Steelers. OMG they even struggled against our second string with the Ravens. Josh is not impressive
@bdb7185 "Josh is not impressive" is by far the absolute dumbest take I've ever heard about him. Sets record for only QB in NFL history to have 40+ QB TDs in 4 straight years. Nah, that's not impressive at all.
He's done so many impressive things, but you won't pay attention to em because of your own personal bias.You're either a troll, have actual mental disabilities, or are like 15 years old and simply doesn't know anything about the NFL.
@@bdb7185are you perhaps a ravens fan? And I guess you didn’t really watch the video.
@@jamesnelson8469 yeah it has no point. Again everything he's pointing to is stats because that's all he can make a case about. If you do a real analysis on the totality of the games he's not taken care the ball. Stats don't mean nothing when you significantly losing games while playing. Every game Lamar is playing they are putting up 30 plus points every game or more. Majority of this season Josh Allen his games are won but 6 points or less. That's not MVP. There only good games were against losing teams. You put 30 points on the Commander, Raiders, Steelers which beat them the first time and the Dolphins. Are either of these teams top seed for the playoffs?! They put 30 plus on the Cowboys. Everything they did the ravens are doing better. Ravens put 30 plus points on winning record teams. They only did that to two. Josh made the bills lose more games. You cannot be MVP when the games you lost are because of you.
@@bdb7185 all you mentioned are stats and it just shows that Josh has played better in losses than Lamar has in his losses but ok see what you want. Clearly a ravens fan. I’m not a fan of either.
I strongly disagree the bills could still be good with another quarterback but the ravens offense is heavily built around Lamar, taking away Lamar and replacing him with a pocket passer, would completely tear the team apart.
Other way around
This is a great video, but for no one that asked here’s my short opinion if you’re willing to read it:
Josh Allen had a great season! Definitely the runner up to the MVP in my mind. He was on my fantasy team and was the #1 overall fantasy QB
That being said, it’s about the win record and eye test.
Lots of these graphs and data shared in this video have stats presented in a miss leading way. The biggest example that pops up is the “open receiver” stat around the 5min mark. What wasn’t mentioned is Lamars ability to extend plays to 7-12 seconds long to find the open receiver who broke from coverage as almost any NFL WR would do with that much time allotted.
I’m definitely bias as my favorite team is the Ravens, but Lamar is just special and performs in that eye test that makes it hard not to vote for him as the league MVP!
hey @ntgams1902 read the fine print on the chart you're questioning... it says "Scrambles excluded".
I think Lamar played really well this year and I think he's a great QB. But anyone that watched the Bills this year could see that the Bills WRs and scheme are bottom tier, and Josh has been making up for them-providing more incremental value than any player for their team. Which is what an MVP is.
Diggs had such a down year that PFF had him rated lower than Skyy Moore. Yes PFF is not great, but it's better than telling you to just take my word for what I saw in the All-22. Yes I watch the All-22.
If we go by eye test, Allen is the MVP. Makes throws that Lamar cant make and runs like Mahomes cant. He is literally everything for the Bills and led a season comeback into the 2nd seed.
This is the first year Lamar Jackson has had anything close to elite star power receiver support outside of Andrews and he's a tight end. And Josh still had better receivers. Josh Allen has had Diggs and Gabe Davis the past few years which makes him have better targets to rack up stats with.@@JBeremy
In short “the stats don’t matter” when it comes to Lamar.
Lamar is great and had a good year. Just not a MVP year.
I've been a Bills fan since "91," but LJ is astounding and smaller. His passing has improved. Can't take anything away from him either.
They don't have to he already has an mvp... The only person who took anything away from lamar would be Taron johnson...
@@theduckfromthejoke152 took 101 things from him and then milano took his soul shortly after
@chaseperring5718 "Oh my god" l o l... That's terrifying... For some reason... It's like that gino smith meme When he saw aaron donald coming unblocked
@@ChosenOne-ov9yh lamar about to be same place milano is out hurt thinking of next season,
@@ChosenOne-ov9yh he aint. he lost twice to bills and beat them 2x. get you facts right, lamar threw a pick in the endzone when they coulda tied with a fg, and he lost to the bills in the playoffs on a lamar pick 6 in the endzone,,, man you ravens fan hard to think you actually ravens fans and not just lamar meat glazers... Bills knocked his bitch ass outta that playoff game
Wow I just looked at the sub amount and I just got to say this is a very high quality video for this. Keep up the good work! ❤
Thank you so much!
Well done video but you are stretching with some of your points, pass epa, touchdowns scored in losses? These hold 0 value in any serious mvp discussion
I’m not saying that’s why he should be MVP, I was simply pointing out that he isn’t the reason the Bills lost games in the middle of the season like many were saying.
With no bias at all, (despite being a bills fan) i do believe Allen is my MVP. By definition the QB is the most valuable player on a team. Until this video i thought CMC should take home the award, but when a QB with even more rushing tds, who's also probably even better at passing, (unlike a few qbs) it blows my mind on what Josh has done. Allen for MVP.
And that 5 game win streak was the biggest win streak in regular season football in years!
@@Bills_Mafia__17no it wasnt lol
Don't worry he'll be the MVP next year because he's on the COVER OF MADDEN.. 😂😂😂😂😂
@@Bills_Mafia__17wouldn’t say that win streak was the biggest in years. Maybe to end the season but Bills did the same thing in 2021. They won 7 in a row last year I believe as well.
@@larry2281 true, I guess what I was trying to say is that they got hit at the best time possible.
As a ravens fan, fuck you for making me have doubts about Lamar’s 2nd MVP
Shoot my bad 😂😂
No doubts if John wouldn't concede on big leads Lamars stats would be greater. Lamar just is efficient as long as his WR execute and the O line doesn't give up on protection which happens too much unfortunately.
@@pmcfarlin7 Lamar is wicked efficient there’s a reason he was top 3 in PFF grade. But Josh sat for practically 4 quarters this season, too so his numbers could be even bigger, as well. Both had fantastic seasons though, of course.
@@caseyhonigbaumbut Josh Allen is not 13-3 tho, they almost lost to the dolphins
@@derekanonymous3294 1. They didn’t lose to the Dolphins, in fact, they beat them twice.
2. If you are insinuating that wins are a QB stat I’d remind you that Aiden O’Connell threw for 64 yards and 0 TDs and won a game.
Hey a couple of clips from my videos made it here! Thats pretty cool tbh, great video!
ravens fan here, i respect your opinion on the topic and wouldn't even mind if josh wins mvp.
Thanks bro....#billsnation...
Yeah, i can say the same as a ravens fan, the numbers really don't lie and this is a compelling argument
Why can't black men win MVP leading in interceptions?or BE SUPERMAN 🤷🏾♂️Why do black men interceptions be so bad and white men interceptions don't EXPLAIN....THIS DOUBLE STANDARD SAVING FACE QB LEAGUE 😂
my man was literally averaging over an interception a game
Your point is what.
@@lexross1465watch the video?????
@@lexross1465 you can't mvp when your candidate ain't turning the ball over like Lamar. Lamar has the best record and with running or passing he's way more efficient. Josh has had top five receiver in the league and couldn't get MVP. Lamar did with nobody to really talk about. Josh is average at best and hasnt beat any significant team to boast about. Who did they dominate worth mentioning?!😂😂😂😂
@@bdb7185Man got a hate boner for Allen.
Only one interception?
I love you Josh Allen
You need more content. Well spoken, you keep me listening.
Thank you so much! I really appreciate that!
Awesome video
As a chiefs fan Allen is so underrated I’ve always said he’s consistently #2 behind Mahomes not burrow, hurts who fans swear are better 😭
He's overrated he's a loser and he throws i interceptions
He's better than mahomes 😂 put mahomie on the bills they miss the playoffs
@s98247 I bet they don't miss the playoffs... Because the bills has a good defense. If you could throw that many interceptions and still win that mean you got a good defense. Patrick mahomes is not gonna throw that many interceptions stop talking football😂😂
Allen is the best in the game right now hands down. He should win MVP
If he was the best in the game, then why all the comebacks? Shouldn't the best in the game have his team with the lead?
@@mikeschiller2108👎 No, That's not how it works dude l o l any other questions?
@theduckfromthejoke152 So having the lead all game isn't better than having to come back to win at the end of the game? Winning by 2 scores isn't better than squeeking by? Scoring more points and getting more wins isn't better?
@@mikeschiller2108thanks for mentioning that, most the Ls this year he gave them a lead with less then 2 minutes left in the game.
Great video. In a league of incredible QBs Josh Allen is the one I’d want on my team. Not a Bills fan but I’d love to see them in big game this year
Great video. You mean a saving face VIDEO....NO MATTER HE LOST AND LEAD IN INTS HES NOT LAMAR HE DONT ENOUGH 😂😂😂.....HES A RB HE THREW 16 PASSES BEHIND THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE
Great video bro you're 100 percent right these other people dont really watch football commenting on here
Josh Allen has heart. The passion he has for his teammates to succeed and appreciation he has for the team’s fans are evident in his actions. He gives his all in every play. What separates him from the other candidates for MVP is we could most likely be in a failed season if we didn’t have Josh. He is the inspiration that motivates Buffalo.
Same with lamar
Good video, but if you watched the NFL this year Lamar is absolutely the MVP. His stats aren't super crazy because he's played so well in the first half that they can basically just run the ball in the second half. Lamar is the most dominant player we've seen play the quarterback position in a long time and he's definitely the most efficient. Most of the time when he's QB the game is over by halftime. Josh Allen plays from behind alot and in close games so naturally his stats are going to be inflated. At the end of the day whether you agree or not it's his turnover issues that have kept him out of the MVP conversation this year.
I'm sorry, but Lamar has not been more dominating than Allen. Especially when you look over the past 4 seasons. Since 2020, Allen is #1 in Total Touchdowns, #2 in total yards, has the highest scoring offense, 2nd most wins and has done better in the playoffs. THIS season for Lamar has been good and I think with the success of the team, he deserves consideration, but from a statistical standpoint, he is middle of the road in most QB stats and by MVP standards he is not on par with MVPs. His touchdowns are low and when you consider that Allen is 86% of his teams scores (which is INSANE) to Lamar who was in the 55% range, that is significant. Historically, Allen has been in the MVP conversation for 4 straight years and his last 4 seasons were more impressive than Lamar's and the Bills often sat him in a lot of games. When it came to total stats, he was still more productive and the voters never took that into consideration for him.
You literally just pointed out how Lamar is on a more complete team than Allen. Which I agree. That is why he isn't MVP because the team around him would be good without him while Buffalo probably would not
@@STEALTTH7 kid im sorry to tell you but nobody is reading a paragraph full of bullshit🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@louisminati allen actually has a top 10 defense and a top 10 reciever in the league on top of that hee also has knox kincaid and davis that's more than Lamar has had his entire career🤣🤣🤣🤣buffalo would probably be better than Baltimore if Baltimore didn't have Lamar and buffalo didn't have allen🤣🤣🤣
@@louisminati Im sorry but this is just an ignorant statement. The team would not be nearly as good without Lamar Jackson. Have you seen the offense when Tyler Huntley is playing the last 3 years? Huntley is 3-6 as a starter, Lamar is 58-19 Its a night and day difference. Also Lamar hasn't even had a good supporting cast around him since this year. Lamar finally got some wide receivers and a new offensive coordinator and he's back to MVP form.
wow! thank you for such a eye opening video
Nice work
lamar could’ve stat padded rushing tds if he wanted to lmao if u think josh allen is mvp than you don’t watch ravens games
yet allen still has better passing stats then lamar, the 15 more tds is just icing on it
@@ShinobiXXXBDO Lamar is better in all accuracy stats and has 5 more tds than lamar with more than double the picks🤣🤣🤣🤣also lamar is 30th in passing attempts allen is 5th
@@ShinobiXXXBDOLamar winning his team games while Josh throwing int and losing 11-6 let that tells you everything
@@bdb7185 and will lose again in the first game of the playoffs, so you can have your bogus MVPs and have the new generation aaron rodger, can get you to the playoffs but thats as far as that goes
@@ShinobiXXXBDO we going to the SB. Your bills getting curve stomp. Bills have lost to losing record teams. They don't have no significant wins over no real teams. Majority of their games are won about 5 points. MVP struggling to get 30 points with teams that have losing records. How is this MVP
This didnt age well at all. Stat you missed... JA is the most glazed Qb.Oh yeah this stat also, 0-3 against Pat in the playoffs. Is he still the most Clutch QB???
💯 he's glazed way too much it's sickening
Allen in the playoffs
27 TDs 4 ints in 10 games
Lamar in the playoffs through 6 games
8 tds 6 ints
Burrow in the playoffs through 7 games
10 TDs 7 ints
Who is glazed here? Allen definitely isn’t the reason they lose games in January. Regardless it’s a regular season award and he still had a better regular season than all of them
@@larry2281 full blowjob at this point. CUZ He been done....Even in the off season.
Almost every QB is winless against Mahomes lol
The issue with how awards are voted is that they are largely voted by media members who prefer narratives and the “best story” instead of the actual best performance over the course of that season
Every time there is an arguement with fans they ALWAYS use the numbers. The numbers have so many gray areas, it's not even funny. Josh Allen's INTs can be translated into punts some times. There were times in the season where he just took a shot deep down field. It was intercepted and the announce would be like "it's like a point anyway." I mean unlike dak Prescott against the packers, when the corner took it to the house.
I am wondering, of all the people that don't like Josh Allen, how many would love to have him on their team? We are very lucky to have him. Go Bills!
As a Chiefs fan, I never understood the Allen hate train, for me Allen was always a top 3 quarterback that I didn't want to play against. I hope you finally get the ring if we can't do that
Lamar has done just as well as allen with less everything. Allen really turn into a selfish qb towards the end scoring 15 rushing tds. Lamar has significantly more rushing yards than him it just shows lamar isn't trying to pad his stats which allen had to do or they weren't making it in. 2nd seed or nothing save by the D line more than he should have been. Imagine lamar actually came out swinging on everyone like they did against miami and 49ers.
ANNNND you don't watch the games.
@arizona_anime_fan I watched every game
What? Jalen is the stat padder. Less everything yet has the highest receiver separation in the league and a dominants defense. I don’t have a preference either way but seeing fanboys arguing with biased nonsense is always something.
Having more Rushing Yards but less Touchdowns is more stat padding than the other way around my guy.
When the ravens are in the Super Bowl and buffalo is at home remember this comment
Awesome video and analysis. This is what I wish more media folks would discuss and break down. Great content!
The MVP award is more about spectacle than stats. The way the end of this season was scheduled gave Lamar the spotlight and he performed better than he had all season while everyone was watching. Primetime game against the Jags (who at that point were one win away from owning the 1 seed) Collinsworth gushes all over Lamar when he spins away from pressure and throws a prayer up to his TE who makes a great catch between 2 defenders. The next week Christmas night against SF 49ers, Lamar has a solid game and gets the win. Then the Ravens play the #2 seed dolphins for a chance to clinch the AFC 1 seed and he goes off 5 TDs no picks. Over this stretch he only threw 1 int. Not saying its right (This whole award is subjective anyway), but when the NFL put Lamar in primetime and in the biggest moments against the perceived best teams in the league, he looked like the best player.
Your the only mf speaking facts in this comment section
That's just what Lamar did in a few prime time games. We've been watching him do similar stuff to division leaders all year long !
finally someone who doesntonly look at stats
I think that something you are overlooking here is the difference between how the ravens and bills offense operate in the red zone. When the ravens get there, most of the time they are handing it off to one of their running backs. On the other hand, the bills will get close to the goal line and use allen to sneak into the endzone. This season, 7 of Allen's rushing tds came from within 2 yards, and an additional 3 rushing tds came from within 6 yards. So while he is scoring more, it isn't because he is a better player, it's because their offenses are designed differently. It shouldn't be a knock against lamar that he is being smart with playcalling and doing what is most beneficial for his offense.
Most of allens rushing touchdowns are him making a play when there is nothing there not designed plays. So you say we shouldnt hold it against lamar but are holding it against josh allen. Playcalling or not there is alot of off the cuff plays josh does that results in touchdowns. And your agrument cluld be overlooked if there was like a 5 touchdown difference but its a 15 touchdown difference.
Lamar also shouldn’t get extra credit for handing the ball off😂
@@lexross1465 lol 10 of Allen TDs came from 6 yards or less and Gus Edwards had 12 TDs of less than 5 yards. If Ravens were worried about stat padding for Lamar he would have ran in more of them himself unlike Josh Turnover Allen
@@tdup191 Lamar actually has a complete team. Josh Allen is the team. Lamar can't do what josh does, lamar is basically a system qb. just throws to wide open receivers, even baker mayfield would be good on the ravens team.
@@brianhenry7983 lol thts your biased opinion yet Lamar is on verge of winning his 2nd MVP regardless. Maybe Josh can be in conversation for MVP one day if he stops turning the ball over 😂
Make more vids like this, ngl thought I was watching somebody with 50k subs. Fantastic analysis
Thank you so much! I’m trying to think of some more ideas for videos. If you have any you’d be interested in I’d love to hear ideas!
Use the best analytics you can find to prove Joe Flacco was elite
@@caseyhonigbaumhe was mediocre before stefon diggs trade,not the most valuable player on his own team.... your purposely leaving that out it's called stat dancing
Great video ngl
Appreciate that, thank you!
@@caseyhonigbaum and that’s not me being bias cause I’m a huge Buffalo fan
it’s so nice to know that there’s still people out there who know ball🙏🏻
I agree 100% with this. I love Lamar and he is deserving but Josh outperformed him this year. The injuries to the defense, the drops, the offensive coordinator change, but most importantly the clutch moments put him over the top. In fact, it’s not just this year that the Bills have blown 4th quarter go ahead scores. He’s been doing this for several years. The Hail Murray game, the 13 seconds against the chiefs, and others are examples of the Bills defense being the worst enemy.
Lamar team had multiple injuries this year
I don't disrespect Josh Allen as a top 5 QB in the league and he should be a pro bowler this season but there is no metric to suggest he should be ahead of Lamar for MVP when you consider Lamar sat a lot of fourth quarters plus week 18 because he had his team leading big even against other playoff teams.
Great analysis
Bottom line. Not a single team in the NFL not taking Josh Allen over Lamar or Paddy first pick if given the opprotunity in a league wide re-draft. Brock would't even be a consideration.
4:50 Why do you think the ravens receiving core are finding themselves open so much? It’s because Lamar can buy so much time for their above average receiver core
Literally he tries to make it seem as though Lamar has better receivers than Josh when that’s clearly not the case, I’d actually argue the opposite
Good breakdown. Josh often "plays down" to his opponents which comes across weak...he needs to flex harder to get MVP love from the talking heads. But in buffalo all we care about is the championship, y'all can keep your MVP
Christian Mc was the REAL MVP this season. But I get it, the NwokeFL has their agenda. Appease certain groups or catch hell for it.
Congrats Christian !
So Josh Allen has 1 loss against playoff teams as you stated. That means he has 5 losses against teams that didn’t even make the playoffs. That’s more losses than Lamar has on the season.
Down the stretch of the season lamar faced some the best teams in the league and utterly dominated them, to the point where they wrapped up the #1 seed early and rested starters the final game. And before that there was a consistent string of 4 games where lamar would get the ravens a few yds from the goaline and make a deliberate effort to hand it off to a rb for the score so he easily couldve added about 8 more tds. The eye test is hard to beat and what he did the end of the season was the only thing brought him back from behind in the race
Jpsh allen is 5-1 against playoff teams this year while shouldering the load for his team almost exclusively. Your wins agains good teams i attribute to your defense and run game more so than lamar. Lamar is great but hes not asked to do what josh has to do on a week to week basis.
@@lexross1465 what? Lol man Lamar has had to be mr. Do-it-all for his team every year he's been in the league. Josh had a #1 receiver in diggs since 2020 and he's always had more help than lamar. And bills defense is ranked #9 this year... are u serious? lol whats the excuse for Josh and bills looking super mid at the start of the year with that easy schedule? I mean he only has 3 games this year WITHOUT a pick ....smh Josh has always been reckless with the ball and had a reputation for turning it over but yall are asking a lot saying he's mvp OVER lamar who started cooking in the 2nd half of the year against top talent. Dont even get me started on afc north vs afc east lol
@@09tjohnsonthank you‼️ people act like he isn’t coddled Lamar’s last 2 years before mentioning this year his team has been riddled with injuries & Lamar top target out on an injury as fast as cone baccs Lamar doesn’t have bunch of them because all year they been blowing out top teams and hasn’t played 4th quarters and he’s not a stat padder, 8 tds was given to Gus in 5 or less yards to the touchdown that could’ve easily been TDs for him let’s be honest he’s the scariest qb to face this year his one game he had to have a game winning touchdown drive was the rams he did it in the air as well his defense keeps him from fighting bacc for wins sure but he gives them enough of a leeway where they don’t have to put on MVP performances on the top teams against multiple MVP candidates to secure a #1 seed stats not telling the story of the dominance this year 1 team to no team fair or no MVP LJ8
@09tjohnson no josh has been asked to do it all bub and the bs argument about him having diggs is a weak argument for this year. I'm also sick of the turnover argument. Josh has more touchdowns than lamar can dream of bub and asked to do more hence why allen os 80 percent of their touchdowns and most of their offense and it's all his creation over what lamar is asked to do.
@09tjohnson also mid vs bad teams. 5-1 vs playoff teams number 2 seed with a broken defense hanging in there and joah having to put a cape on. Giving them a chance. If the defense hung on the games josh got them the least they'd have a better record than you bub wit less talent.
Still lost to Chiefs 🤷
Very well done 👏
LOL. Saw this title and immediately clicked “don’t recommend channel”
I prefer people i watch on youtube to be credible. Godspeed!
This whole video mis-represents the facts. It makes it out that Josh Allen has been so superior and overcome this terrible team, but Lamar has a great team.
The Bills have 22 rushing TDs this year, Allen has 15 of them, 8 of them inside 3 yards. The Ravens have 26 rushing TDs, and Jackson has 5. James Cook only has 2 rushing TDs. Gus Edwards has 13 rushing TDs, 11 of which are within 3 yards, and none of which are longer than 7 yards. James Cook is a much better back than Gus Edwards, they just don't give him the goal line carries. Lamar doesn't have a better roster and team around him. The Bills clearly have better offensive weapons, better running backs (Ravens top 2 injured), 2 really good TEs (Andrews has been hurt half of this year), Diggs is much better than any receiver the Ravens have. Half of these comments are talking about what an elite running game the Ravens have, but they don't have any elite running backs, their starter (JK Dobbins) was hurt week 1, their 2nd best running back (Keaton Mitchell) is also out for the year. I wonder why guys at the end of their career like Melvin Gordon, Kenyan Drake, Le'Veon Bell, etc, all come to the Ravens and have a measure of success.....it's because of Lamar. You think all that extra separation that Ravens receivers have is because they're such elite receivers? No, it's because the defense doesn't want to play man coverage because of the threat of Lamar running.
And the defenses are really not that different. The Ravens give up the 6th most YPG at 301.4, the Bills give up 9th most at 307.2, Ravens are 1st in PPG at 16.5 and the Bills are 4th at 18.3. Allen has had to SAVE the Bills late game because he hasn't gotten it done early in the games.
First fact spitter I’ve seen in the comments
He definitely should be the MVP
Josh Allen has the most turnovers, 41 since 2022 and should be MVP 😂😂😂😂😂
@drb5003 actually he's second behind Trevor Lawrence. And yes, he is the MVP this year.
@@drb5003bro also has the most total tds since 2020… and the only qb to a better td to int ratio since 2020 is Patrick Mahomes
@@drb5003you are just repeating what the talking heads say. Maybe you think outside that box a little and you would see the full picture
@@drb5003most TDs and it’s not even close.
Double of some kid named Lamar….
Seems like this is all fueling the team to be at their peak right now!
Thank you
Go Bills
Lamar getting it this year reduces the award's legitimacy more than it already has been. It is a complete joke. He isn't even top 10 in many qb stats.
In order to be mvp, you at least have to be the best at your own position and Lamar isn't even close by any measure.
Allen's turnover problem.....he has 36 fewer interceptions than Peyton Manning over the same span. Spare me that false narrative. Edit: Manning's first 6 seasons
Allen deserves the MVP way more than Lamar if we are picking a QB, although I would pick CMC.
Edit: I disagree the award should go to the person most valuable to their team, that is not the award. It is the best player. Even so, your analysis still holds true.
Edit: Using turnover worthy play percentage from PFF, only Dak has fewer along playoff teams. Allen is also their #1 graded QB.
Edit: I am the least valuable speller and grammar person
Agree 100% but the stats don’t matter when it comes to Lamar. They bend and twist narratives to put him at the top.
I say that all the time..MVP really is the QB who's leagues lead in stats like tds,yrds and QB rating with a good team record
@@larry2281 you're insane if you think the media loves lamar, they do everything they can to discredit him. after he played out of his mind vs the steelers and his recievers let him down there were questions about if lamar was worth the money. lmao get out of here with lamar being a media darling
@@BeepuBoppu where he played insane with no touchdowns and an interception? Get a grip dude the media glazes Lamar. He can do no wrong. Mvp for being mid level.
@@larry2281 actually watch the game instead of looking at the box score, he was making ridiculous throws all game, his receivers had like 8 drops
I was disagreeing with you so hard about 2 minutes in. By 4 minutes in I was totally convinced. Lol great video. Especially the part about 4 quarter drives.
Naw bruh, lamar is clearly the mvp and im a steelers fan so i despise the ravens (although i still respect them) its most valuable player not most player stats. Every time he steps on the field he is the best athlete. Allen got his oc fired and almost missed the playoffs with his turnovers
If the Ravens were about improving Lamar’s stats so he could improve his MVP odds, he would’ve scored around 45 TDs, at the minimum.
Y’all don’t understand how often Lamar led the ravens down the field, got them to the 5 yard line, & then 1 of the 10 different RBs got to run in it for a TD & get all the credit, because their short yardage inside run game is so dominant.
Meanwhile, these other QBs didn’t have to fight for their stats as hard as Lamar because they didn’t have an unstoppable run game stealing scores away from them.
The difference is 2018 Mahomes threw 5000 yards and 50 touchdowns so Josh Allen has more turnovers and nowhere near those passing stats
Head to head Allen is vastly superior to Froghomo. Does a hell of a lot more with less. In 2018 Froghomo was surrounded by one of the best WR cores in history, including future HoF'er Kelce and Hill who accounted for a huge chunk of those passing yards. Allen has NEVER had a TE or #1 WR of that caliber. ANY team in the NFL would instantly ditch their QB for Allen, and not think twice.
@@ChrisG9978I don’t think the chiefs, bengals, or ravens would rather have Allen as their qb.
@@ChrisG9978also Stefon Diggs is pretty good
@@Denhiy stephon diggs is a joke, that guy was ok a couple years ago, now he gets no seperation. josh has the worste receivers in the game, and still puts up mvp numbers
@@Denhiy Diggs is a #2 on almost any NFL team, be that a SOLID #2. Allen has NEVER had a true #1. ANY team would take Allen over who they have. Burrow can't make it through a season without some major injury (hence the nickname Glass Joe Mccallister), Froghomes has a weak ass noodle arm, Lamar SUCKS at passing. Horribly inaccurate, has a MUCH higher pass attempt to INT ratio than Allen. Allen RUNS down linebackers like they're midgets. NO QB in the NFL can run NOR throw to the level of Allen, not even remotely close. Haters are jealous of Allen, and jealous of a small market team having the best QB of all time.
If you go by numbers give purdy the damn mvp
WELL SAID
Good vid. People just simply can't wrap their minds around the concept of valuable. No offense to Lamar, he's massively improved as a passer and is a great MVP candidate, but you put an average QB into these ravens and they're still a contender. Anyone who actually understands the importance of specific types of turnovers would understand that turnovers are one of the smallest issues the bills have. The fact is the bills were very unlucky record wise in the regular season and still won their division with an 11-6 record. They could have easily finished 12-5 or even 13-4. I mean, their biggest loss was by 6 points to the bengals in that stretch of games where Burrow was playing great football. And had that record been just a bit better there probably wouldn't even be a discussion to Allen being MVP
Y’all swear Allen is not getting the love he deserves and that he’s underrated and start bringing up his TDs but never his turnovers 😂 his team isn’t complete trash either like some of yall make it to be, the team was really trash they wouldn’t even be here. Allen had some really bad games. Lamar? Not really, it’s clear he’s been the best qb this year but the ravens always run in the end zone so of course he doesn’t have that many TDs but the MVP don’t always give it to the guy with the most TDs. Plus that argument you used in their stats for their teams losses made no sense comparing considering the bills has more losses. Y’all only do this with Lamar I swear even though he cooked all the good teams in the nfl and had to sit some games at the end because they was blowing a team out.
As a Ravens fans with my own bias I believe that LJ deserves it but I haven’t understood why people think Allen shouldn’t be in the convo imo giving context to the numbers the rushing TDs don’t really move the mark for me on top of despite destroying epa the offense not being able to actually capitalize on scoring for most of the year
I would agree if it wasn't for the sometimes just stupid plays and 18 ints if you want to br mvp you can just br great you need to be constantly great and Lamar was more consistent. He didn't lose his team games and if he was needed he always delivered. This year showed the Josh's talent and defense doesn't bail him out of his mistakes they can be nearly out if the playoffs race. Yes he locked in to secure it but by then other qbs emerged or stayed at the top. I love Josh but he's just to reckless to be a MVP when he's on he's on and easily the MVP when he's off he's just a plain gonna lose you games.
2:14 wait. You're telling me if you turn the ball over 3 times, you end up getting more chances to drive down the field and get more yards? Shocking!
No? Because then the other team gets the ball? If you watched that game and didn’t realize Josh was the best player on the field I don’t know what to tell you.
@@caseyhonigbaum you gotta be a troll
@@yhwhisking-dw2iehe ain’t trollin, this is serious bro Josh is better than Lamar when u put in these stats including the EPA, sack percentage, pressure percentage, rushing TDS, etc.
Josh dont game mange good
He stat stuff n look for big plays a lot
Lamar can game manage and make big plays
@@FlintFoundation he CAN game manage, he just takes more risks… you know how many game where the bills had the lead in the 4th quarter, and josh Allen wasted 6-10 minutes to run out the clock, a lot of games end that way…. I think Lamar deserves the MVP this year, but what josh allen does on a consistent basis, is amazing
Which QB has the best supporting cast......
Bravo, excellent video!! Tremendous job laying out all of that data
Does anyone remember when Brady’s Bucs beat Mahomes’ Chiefs in the Super Bowl and people were calling racist? Well, I hate to say it, but there’s no way Josh would ever be given the MVP as long as there’s a POC player in the running. No matter what the stats are. Wouldn’t matter if the Bills were 17-0. All you hear is “yeah, but the other guy is more valuable to his team.”
Bro Lamar was the key to making the Ravens by far the best team in the league. Josh Allen was phenomenal and that turnaround was legendary, but Lamar deserved that award easily.
“The stats don’t matter when it comes to a Lamar.”
@@AarnavChopra07he deserved it in 2019. He doesn’t deserve it here.
It's not all about stats The MVP Award is for the [Most Valuable Player] In the League and Lamar Jackson is just that, The Ravens Without Lamar Jackson aren't contenders not only that Josh Allen Has made some Questional Plays This Year
Justify that running back performance by Lamar against the chiefs at home when his defense held the chiefs to 0 points second half
The nfl mvp is just an award for the best qb on the best team
Agree 100%. Lamar does not deserve this over Allen. He has had a great season, I won’t take that away from him. but not the Season Josh has. The Bills would be nothing without Josh, I don’t believe the same of the Ravens.
you're crazy if you think the ravens arent majorly worse without lamar
@@BeepuBoppu they're biased Bills fans bruh, cant expect objectivity from them
@@tdup191 that’s why you are on here talking crap because you are so unbiased right? I said that’s my opinion.
@@sakostwwy1903 because you're a biased Bills fan like tht dude who made the video and 99% of ppl who think Josh Turnover Allen ahould be MVP for barely getting 2 seed 😂👎🏽
1st of, great vid.. i watched it 'til the end.
2nd i am a raven fan, and most certainly a lamar jackson fan that wishes he gets the mvp.
3rd i would assume that the data you've presented is well researched for you to make an argument for josh allen's case for mvp
but i would like to counter you're argument,
1st the turnovers,
you've compared him 1st to mahomes mvp season last year. yes their turnovers are close but you've missed the point that the chiefs are tied with the top record in the league (with eagles). yes they are 2nd in the afc but with the same records with 3 more teams.
then you've compared him (josh allen's turnovers) to the last 3 qb's who won the superbowl. you've lost you're argument there because the nfl mvp is a regular season award. nobody is questioning josh allen's caliber in the playoffs, in fact it is the complete opposite of lamar jackson where his critics are more concerned of his performances in the playoffs.. so your argument in this aspect is flawed to down right wrong.
then you've brought up EPA stat, to which i am not very familiar yet. so i will not make a statement for this.
but then you've proceeded to his supposed GWD and Comebacks (Clutch),
Before i proceed, i have a vid somewhere discussing (clutch). the vid states that ( i am parapharasing here) what led to you being in that situation. if you are a good team/player, you shouldn't be in this types of situations, And then you've brought up this season's Broncos and Patriots.. like come on now.
The next comparison, made me comment on this video.. you've compared josh allen's total td's in his team's 6 losses vs lamar's td's in his team's 3 losses.. (like this is the very definition of you are valuable) allen plays great, his team still losses, lamar didn't had a great game his team losses.. (and i know there's more to this, but i'll save that for now)
You've then presented josh allen's stats this season compared it to the league particulary lamar. (yeah josh allen's numbers are great)
Another stat you've shown is the separation (openness) of the WR's. for me, it's more about the system in which you are playing.. it's more of a OC thing. which team/player has better OC..
all this just to go back to stats argument. and then pressing the brakes, stating that numbers aren't everything (i agree)
you then proceeded to stating the bills initial record (6-6) to winning 5-1.. inspite of having injuries (the entire league deals with this), drop of from your main guys ( for this purpose, i will adress that this is double whammy for baltimore when mark andrews went down) and a change of "OC".. see this? this is probably the turning point, i.have mentioned earlier when you discussed the (separation/openness of receivers). i said that it's more of a scheme rather than the players talent (ofcourse talent helps), but what's more important is how you utilize that talent..
so just a recap,
1.this season is particularly different than ever.
2.stats dont matter if you are losing
3.u cant argue playoff success/failure for a season award
4.organization/coaching is still detrimental to success of the team (with or with less talent)
5.i am hoping that the ravens win it all this season (SuperBowl) and many more to come, but nothing is promised. so if you are a Bills fan or just Josh Allen's fan or you just want to make his case. my friend, may the best team win.
Josh Allen throws interceptions early, putting his team in a hole, so they pass more to get out of it and he gets better stats. He turns games they should win easily into close matchups or loses. The bills can play terrible and turn easy wins into close games like the patriots and chargers games. But now that they are in the playoffs, I have a feeling that Allen’s antics are gonna cost them at the worst time
I mean they premise of the video is essentially Lamar is being crowned mvp with stats that don’t back it up. Allen and Dak, even Purdy all have better stats than Lamar but there isn’t even a conversation about who should be mvp. That is the issue here. Lamar is mid pack on most stats yet is the proclaimed front runner.
@@TheePotatoGamerwhen you realize one QB is 1-3 in the playoffs with 3 TDs and 5 ints and the other QB is 4-4 with 17 TDs and 4 ints.
Yet his antics will “cost them.”
MAN CANT ARGUE WITH THIS 6-6 ALLEN DID THE IMPOSSIBLE
I don’t get his your point regarding Allen’s 15 Total TDs in the Bills 6 losses versus Lamar’s 3 Total TDs in the Ravens 3 losses. 3:11
That seems to tell me that Josh Allen performed well even when the Bills lose, meaning he isn’t the x-factor on the team.
If Jackson didn’t play well in each of the three losses by the Ravens (only 3 total TDs), doesn’t that mean that that Jackson is the Raven’s x-factor?
Nonetheless, good video!
JOSH ALLEN ALL THE WAY!!!!! GO BILLS He's definitely earned the MVP award!
Finally someone with a brain. I'm a 49ers fan but Allen is underrated
‘Allen is underrated’. A turnover machine that can’t beat Mahomes in the playoffs is not underrated.
If we're really going to truly vote for the most valuable for their team, then Lamar Jackson should have 6 MVP awards. His record in the regular season is the same as Tom Brady 57-19 which is the best of all time and he has done this with just ok receivers and no big name RBs and a collapsing offensive line
Do u really watch football?....
Who is more valuable to their team every year? What other mvp candidate can sit out and their team stand no chance at winning? For example Dak was hurt and the backup QB went undefeated for like 5 games against good teams. Lamar is the most valuable to his team. That is the award
As a ravens fan it dont matter what matter is winning the super bowl both qb would say it dont matter when you lose in the play offs .
Without Josh Allen the bills would be one of the worst teams in the NFL, if not the worst. Certainly he is deserving of MVP
They are 11-6 what are you talking about. They aren't dominating top seeds in the NFL. They winning games they should. They should beat the Steelers. If you put 100 points against them it's nothing to brag about considering they struggled all year. Josh is average with all those yards and losing like he is nothing to brag about. Even Brock had more yards then Lamar in the game and still lost. Your stats don't mean shit if you not significant where it needs to be. That's laughable I got more yards BUT YOU LOST!!!
If Josh wasn’t so elite at hitting DBs between the numbers…. Then he would be in the running for MVP
He puts on heroic late game performances BECAUSE he digs himself in the deepest of holes. He is his own worst enemy…
They are probably a 14 win #1 seed if he only threw half the picks he did this year💯
If you paid attention to the numbers, you would see that despite his picks, he still has been the most valuable QB in the NFL. I understand people don’t care to dig deep and maybe that makes me a dork, but the underlying numbers tell the story. He had the same turnover worthy play % as CJ stroud who only threw 5 picks all season. If you need me to explain that further let me know.
@@caseyhonigbaum It’s the eye test bud…. Every defense he faces knows Josh is gonna throw them a couple. They just have to come down with those AWFUL balls.
Defenses fear LaMar… Josh doesn’t have that effect💯
@@caseyhonigbaum You don’t have to explain shit bro… Josh has been hitting DBs between the numbers since day 1. He has thrown so many picks to my Pats over the years… Eyes don’t lie💯
@@gimletinf69 He’s been responsible for more TDs than any QB since day 1 too 🤷♂️. Not to mention the absolute bludgeoning he put on your Pats in the playoffs. Eyes don’t lie 💯
@@gimletinf69 Good thing you aren’t a defensive coordinator or something because your eye test would have you fired in a hurry 😂
BORN IN 85" BILLS FAN SINCE 84" DAA BILLS!! DAAAAAAAAAAA BILLS!
was against this at first, but after watching the whole thing you changed my mind. well done!
Josh is a terrible decision maker, he has trouble reading defense, hes not accurate on short throws and he has no juke and just barrels forward when he runs.. lol yall gotta be kidding .. Lamar Jaskson has thrown and ran on the field and done things josh has never done and could never do. What highlights and/or games yall watching ???
What highlights and games are YOU watching? 😂
@@flyfoxzone0394 1. In 4 divisional games Josh has thrown for 985 yds & 169 rushing yards with 9 TDs to 1 INT. He has the second best playoff TD to INT ratio in playoff history.
2. Playoffs don’t count when it comes to MVP voting. Too bad, because Allen’s playoff performances would only help his case!
@@flyfoxzone0394 1. Incorrect, the 2020 Divisional was a win over Lamar and the Ravens.
2. “He” didn’t lose the team lost. Anyone who knows football can use their eyes and see that he did everything he could to win the games he lost.
@@flyfoxzone0394 Trying to put Allen down by comparing him to one of the 3 best QBs of all time is objectively hilarious.
@@flyfoxzone0394 You’re losing me here. Lamar played a fantastic divisional game (his second ever playoff win), but so did Allen. If you watch the video you’ll see that I never put down Lamar Jackson, in fact I said multiple times that he is phenomenal and had a phenomenal season I was just pointing out that the numbers don’t scream MVP.
If Josh was black, hed be the clear cut unanimous MVP