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Great video, I think you should truly make a series out of it, other interesting chapters you should talk about are the Death Spectres, Flame Eagles and Dark Krakens.
Theres a pretty decent book Death of Antagonis, that is a Black Dragons story. The Antagonist in the book is interesting but ultimately feels a bit flat, but the Space Marine story is a good deep dive into the mindset of a space marine
one of the Black Dragons how was prisonner of the dark eldar is now serving in the Salamanders, it's in a book, can't remember the name but for me they seems like a chimera, with geneseed from the Salamanders AND the Blood Angels the "monsters" unleashed by the Black Dragons look A LOT like a deformed version of the black rage
@@Lazrael32 I mean I want a book or lore to mention these chapters. I love these videos but at the same time it’s not the same as reading the heroics, corruption, or chaos created by these marines.
So glad you’re covering some off the beaten path chapters! The Black Dragons have always been one of my favorite chapters! Can’t wait to learn about the others you discuss
I figured it would work really well for a series as there a ton of really interesting chapters most people don't know, and a lot of them sadly don't have enough lore for a dedicated deep dive.
Best part of Warhammer is the not talked about stuff, like Xeno species, background Lore, Background chapters. Always more interesting than the main lore IMO.
The inscription on the Warp Ghosts' pauldron is proper Latin, not dog Latin like most things in 40k, which is interesting. The EXACT translation reads "We will take the souls of the damned into the abyss", which has a slightly different connotation than Khayon's translation
@@Mace-1191 Blood Angels who are more similar to Night Lords than really much else When the Great rift happened, thry even abandoned their world to seek out the Emperors enemies in the Void, as opposed to defending their world
@@Mace-1191 they are a chapter of blood angel successor who fight using tactics more akijnti those used during the great crusade/heresy. They are often seen to be more similar in his they function to the Carcharodons. heresy they also have one of the largest concentrations of hereasy weapons out of any chapter. And when not in battle almost all of them are in some form of stssis In coffin’s.
"Something the Inquisition are Not happy about" Well, are they ever? Great vid mate, love hearing of more obscure parts of the lore, especially among basically the face of the franchise
The Black Dragons short story in the recent Sucessor collection was PHENOMENAL. I hope they are goven more love, eager to read the old Salamanders novel to see the chaos tainted Black Dragon
There's an old 40K theory that says that all of the cursed founding chapters are experiments created to test various gen seed alterations by belisarius. A lot of the known mutations found in the cursed founding chapters directly correlate to primaris. The accelerated bone growth of the black dragons is one of them. Another chapter from this founding we're also gigantic.
Dude, I don't even play the game, nor do I think I ever will, but I've watched so many of your videos. They interesting, entertaining, and well put together. Keep up the good work, and I wish you future success.
Ever since I’ve found your channel on accident I’ve found myself getting more and more interested in the lore. Despite watching most of your videos I can tell I’ve barely scratched the surface of everything
I've read & own about 60 WH fantasy books (Gotrek & Felix Slayer series in particular) but there is just so many channels for 40K that I could just watch some new lore anytime.
I can just imagine the surprise of the red hunters every time they come across the space wolves and the space wolves start throwing hands because you know they haven't forgotten what they did
I had never heard of the exorcists but I love the concept. I like Raven guard but they're not obscure, and my only obscure fave would be the Soul Drinkers.
My opinion is that the Warp Ghosts are the first Corrupted Primaris Marine chapter, armour marks that the observers don't recognize, ships that are distinctly human but are unfamiliar
@@briantalmage4498 Time travel is not unheard of in the Warp. There are many reports of ships emerging from the Immaterium in a time even before they had originally launched.
@@briantalmage4498 A guardsman warp in time to the old great crusade and when he wanted to warn the emperor he got kill because remember nobody in that moment believe Horus was a traitor
@@Gut7891 I have heard of instances of time travel through out the warhammer 40k time line. This is not one.of them. The Warp Ghosts are not corrupted Primaris Space Marines. There is no lore backing that up. If you believe there is go ahead and let me know the exact source and page number or quote and what book, magazine, codex or exactly where it came from. Besides the Warp Ghosts are so dam powerful it is completely irrelevant if there primaris or regular space marines. If you can't see that than you didn't read the excerpt from the story or read it and had no idea what they were talking about.
Would be awesome if the Carcharadons were in the next video for the series. A bunch of silent grey astartes with the brutality of the world eaters and the stealth of nightlords is just awesome.
The Grey Knights and Inquistion are more intertwined than you described, Malcador created both alongside each other and the Grey Knights routinely act as the military arm of the Ordo Malleus.
The Mentors and Death Specters definitely need more love. I can imagine a whole line of models for the Specters, if these guys have such an important job that even the indomitus crusade isn't worth their time, you know they gotta have some dope gear in that base of theirs
i always found the storm giants interesting. i first heard of them in a youtube video years ago and if i remember right they are known for immense strength (even by space marine standards). the youtuber who mentioned them said they could be a space marine thunder/warrior hynird which is unlikely but sounded cool. theyre likely sons of vulkan and i wish we saw more of vulkans gene sons in general. we have the imperial fists, crimson fists and black templars and each represents a part of rogal dorns personality. the black templars his rage, the imperial fists his stoicism and the crimson fists his stubborness. we dont have anything like that for vulkan and that feels like a huge waste.
I remember picking up the Exorcists when they were rumored to be Grey Knight successors. I was a little disappointed at first that they weren't, but the chapter is so ridiculously metal that I can hardly complain.
"While I am troubled by the sheer number of wayward sons my legion has produced, I must admit that the thought process behind this particular chapter's actions at least has some logic behind the reasoning. -even if I do not approve of the action themselves." -TTS Dorn, maybe
I'm still running with the GK successor idea for mine. The old stuff implies and in one place even explicitly states it, the new Imperial Fists stuff has a few inconsistencies that allow us to play it off as a cover story if we like to. And I like to :)
Love your content wes, just started getting into WH40K lore like 2 weeks ago and im pretty sure ive binge watched most of the long form videos youve ever made. Keep it up!
The Steel Confessors are a super cool legion that more people should know about, quite literally being a chapter made by the Admech for the Admech; essentially Space Marine Skitarii!
I have a theory on the Warp Ghosts. What if they are one of the Lost Legions? Maybe the 2nd or 11th Legions had too much Warp taint to the point that they possess Blank qualities yet exist in the Warp and cannot live anywhere else? Or they could be a legion that belongs to an Eldritch being that even the Chaos Gods wouldn't mess with?
@@weshammer Or it could be a legion that belongs to one of the 20 mini gods that the Emperor made a deal with and when he stiffed them, one of them decided to make their own legion within the Warp and maybe there could be a representing "Primarch" for the Warp Ghosts in the Warp.
I lile the mentors. They go around the imperium assisting the imperivm training special forces, strenghtening garrisons and using them to tip the scales galaxy wide. Reasonable marines without fanon.
Relictors! Using Chaos to fight Chaos as they themselves mutate due to its influence. Yet despite all of that, they stayed loyal until their complete destruction. I'm aware the main reason they get no love is because they are dead and gone, but I still wish they had more small stories about them or some kind of dedicated short series.
The verb form of ‘exorcism’ is to ‘exorcise’, you said it right my dude. It just so happens that in the process, the demon is excised from the host. Similar etymologies
Honestly the Black Dragons are my favourite chapters and I love seeing videos about them and the art for them is incredible. The short story about them in the book The Successors is also really good. Bless The Curse.
There's a series of books called "The Runelords" by the author David Farland in which the powers-that-be gain insane levels of power by robbing people of their physical abilities, and adding it to their own. They _have to keep the people they've robbed alive_ however, otherwise they lose the enhancement to their abilities, so war often involves wiping out these populations of people to weaken each other. The Exorcist chapter reminds me of this, but in reverse. Each of those imprisoned failed-space marines is like a tiny army of demons in an easily-deliverable package and I can't imagine anything good coming of the practice. Is there a Beastman chapter out there somewhere? I love that the beastmen can exist as abhuman citizens inside the Imperium, and can be fanatically loyal even though they're so hated. That they are consistent in their mutation too just seems like the kind of thing that would lead to one existing somewhere, just like the Black Dragons.
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Please do more of these videos and maybe go into Chaos, Orks, Necrons, Eldar, Tau or Tyranids of factions that get mentioned but aren't spoken much about. Just an idea of what I think would be interesting. Keep up the good work Wes really enjoy the videos you put out for our enjoyment
Black legion novel with the warp time f***ery was great plot twist! Just because of how the warp works, I think the warriors they saw were the men they sacrificed just like Ashokai(sp). The exorcist are definitely the gnarly of this video for sure! The broken ones are definitely grim and dark
I gotta say, out of all the underrated Space Marines my favorite are a bit more tame. I’ve really liked the Mentor Marines ever since I’ve first heard of them. A chapter that works in small groups to aid other characters or more likely to train a populace do defend themselves against the threats of the galaxy is something I like in media in general but as far as I can tell there’s next to no info on them, and I’d totally want them in my army if I had one
I think my favorite is the Death Spectres. The lore about the throne under their home world is pretty neat. If you want to learn about them read the Deathwatch book from the Talon Squad series.
One really cool chapter that's sadly been ruined as time went on were the Mentors They were a secretive yet loyal chapter that worked alongside inquisitors and techproests a d they'd test out new weapons and xenotech, and deploy with other chapters to test the weapons in combat Now they're just high lords pawns and possibly on the edge of corruption
My favourite from these... I really want it to be the Warp Ghosts, but we don't enough about them. I mean, they say their armour and ships are futuristic, but futuristic how? How are they different, how are they more advanced? So I'm going to have to say the Black Dragons are the favourite on this list, since they help show the potential for beneficial Gene-seed mutations. Imagine if that mutation was included in the original Legions and made wide-spread? All the Space Marines could have retractable bone blades! It would be awesome. And they aren't the only examples.
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15:00 This is just basic genetic structuralism. The god emperor designed them to have these random "mutations", which are not cancerous chaotic mutations, but stable mutations that occur under specific circumstances according to a specific genetic design. I mean, their name is literally black dragons. It was done on purpose by their creator
In your next one you could talk about the Star Phantoms. There’s not a ton of information for them besides the fact that they’re probably a dark angels successor chapter (their chapters symbol is that of the dreadwing) and both groups refuse to acknowledge it.
The first chaos warband (Warp Ghosts) mentioned are like a warp time travel mishap where Arkifane is a Chaos God and they are endowed by daemonic forged advanced tech and weaponry. Black Dragons submitting "fake drug tests" to pass tithes so they can remain badass :p
I think theres a few Dark Angel's successors that are pretty cool. Disciples of Caliban specifically hunt for Cypher, The Consecrators use a lot of relics and all their firstborn members only wear armor thats MkVI or older, and The Guardians of the Covenant are robed monks that fight eldritch beings in the Halo Stars.
I have been playing with an idea of building a Minotaur army that has their tanks, dreadnoughts, and other vehicles have some remains or symbols and pieces of its original chapters colors on it showing that they use “borrowed” equipment.
The Blood Angels had always been a favorite , but thats due to my dad playing space hulk when I was a kid and I believe you've done quite a few videos on them and they are really an off the beaten path space marine. I did like getting to learn about the Black Dragons though I think they will be come a new favorite.
So Dorn's geneseed does give you some kind of resistence of warp things. Or et least the willpower bonus to battle then. Dosn't the Black Templas has some resist as well?
My favorite legion will always be the legion of the damned coming out of nowhere when the battle seems all but lost encased in glowing orange fire yet jet black and being hit by large amount of enemy fire they take no damage and they disappear once the battle is over just as they came
Yo! I am making my kill teams (and eventually and army) of Red Hunters. I am a writer, and so I wanted to pick a chapter with not much info, and then write my own backstory. My Lore for them: During and following the Horus Heresy, the imperium had to deal with Marines that seemed to be loyal amongst traitors. Maybe a squad or company from a traitor legion that were able to escape their traitorous brethren. Maybe a company or squad from a loyalist chapter declared for the warmaster, and a small loyal group kills them before turning themselves in. It was to address this issue that the forms and functions of the inquisition began to take shape. Marines that were cleared of being heretics were put together into a chapter known as the Red Hunters. They were tasked with hunting heretics and traitors as recompense for not being able to prevent the fall of their brothers. Due to this chapters intimate knowledge and extensive contact with Chaos, it was decided that they would not receive new Marines. The chapter's numbers dwindled as attrition took its toll. Following the disastrous 21st cursed founding, the inquisition decided to revitalize the chapter so that they could take a crusade to track down and exterminate any cursed chapters that betrayed the imperium. So, during the 22nd founding, the Red Hunters used unknown geneseed to bring their numbers back to that of full chapter strength.
I have 2 ideas for what the Warp Ghosts may be. Version 1: Since humanity heavily guards the entrence to the Warp, The Warp Ghosts could be a specialized leagon designed for guarding the entrence on the other side of the Eye of Terror. This could be done by having them be based on a type of assisns that exist in the Imperium. I don't remember theyre name, but to my knowledge they didn't have souls. So maybe a Space Marine version of those ? Version 2: They are the 2nd or the 11th legion, that got banished into the Warp. Or the 2nd and 11th legion are specialy designed for guarding the Eye of Terror, which is why we don't know about them. Version 2.5: Just athought but maybe they are 1 of the lost Prymarchs that got split into pices and now exist in the warp.
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Great video, I think you should truly make a series out of it, other interesting chapters you should talk about are the Death Spectres, Flame Eagles and Dark Krakens.
I play salamanders and absolutely love the idea of black dragons being potential successors of us
They were made to be bigger(thats why the bone deformation exists) so it makes sense that they would pick the biggest marines, the salamanders to mod
It's been nearly a decade since I read it, but I think it's confirmed in the salamanders omnibus (it's not a great read though)
Theres a pretty decent book Death of Antagonis, that is a Black Dragons story. The Antagonist in the book is interesting but ultimately feels a bit flat, but the Space Marine story is a good deep dive into the mindset of a space marine
Friendly as always, lizard
one of the Black Dragons how was prisonner of the dark eldar is now serving in the Salamanders, it's in a book, can't remember the name
but for me they seems like a chimera, with geneseed from the Salamanders AND the Blood Angels
the "monsters" unleashed by the Black Dragons look A LOT like a deformed version of the black rage
This needs to become a series Wes.
I concur.
I agree!
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Agreed
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I want so many more stories and information for the:
Relictors
Carachadons
Minotaurs
Spider lords
Spider knights
Iron snakes
Death specters
Exorcists
No
@@emmanuelodii5940 why
Space sharks!
he talks about the exorcists in this video. 0.o the death spectres have the most interesting lore. but also almost no lore.
@@Lazrael32 I mean I want a book or lore to mention these chapters. I love these videos but at the same time it’s not the same as reading the heroics, corruption, or chaos created by these marines.
So glad you’re covering some off the beaten path chapters! The Black Dragons have always been one of my favorite chapters! Can’t wait to learn about the others you discuss
I figured it would work really well for a series as there a ton of really interesting chapters most people don't know, and a lot of them sadly don't have enough lore for a dedicated deep dive.
Best part of Warhammer is the not talked about stuff, like Xeno species, background Lore, Background chapters. Always more interesting than the main lore IMO.
@@weshammer not a lesser known chapter but a deep dive I would love is the Novamarines
Black Dragon Deez Nuts on y- [THIS COMMENT HAS BEEN DISCONTINUED ON ORDER OF THE INQUISITION]
The inscription on the Warp Ghosts' pauldron is proper Latin, not dog Latin like most things in 40k, which is interesting. The EXACT translation reads "We will take the souls of the damned into the abyss", which has a slightly different connotation than Khayon's translation
Now here me out, what if the warp ghosts have tech from the dark age of technology
Think the Charnel Guard should get a little more shine particularly as to why they are not recognize even though everyone knows their origin
Never heard of them 😅
Same. Charnel who ?
@@Mace-1191 Blood Angels who are more similar to Night Lords than really much else
When the Great rift happened, thry even abandoned their world to seek out the Emperors enemies in the Void, as opposed to defending their world
@@Mace-1191 they are a chapter of blood angel successor who fight using tactics more akijnti those used during the great crusade/heresy. They are often seen to be more similar in his they function to the Carcharodons. heresy they also have one of the largest concentrations of hereasy
weapons out of any chapter. And when not in battle almost all of them are in some form of stssis In coffin’s.
Stinky zombie vamps ewwwww
"Something the Inquisition are Not happy about"
Well, are they ever?
Great vid mate, love hearing of more obscure parts of the lore, especially among basically the face of the franchise
Only when blowing up planets.
I’m pretty sure smiling is heresy to them
They never seem to be in a good mood. The Mechanicus are frequently assholes too
The Black Dragons short story in the recent Sucessor collection was PHENOMENAL. I hope they are goven more love, eager to read the old Salamanders novel to see the chaos tainted Black Dragon
There's an old 40K theory that says that all of the cursed founding chapters are experiments created to test various gen seed alterations by belisarius. A lot of the known mutations found in the cursed founding chapters directly correlate to primaris. The accelerated bone growth of the black dragons is one of them. Another chapter from this founding we're also gigantic.
If you read the old White Dwarf magazine, it becomes apparent that Fabius Bile had a hand in that project
@@Brandelwyn wait wasnt Fabius a Emperors Children unit?
@@EchoARC6895 yes
Aren't the Salamanders also really huge, like naturally? Their primarch is teh biggest one i think.
@DekkarJr no, he's shorter than both corax and ferrus at least
Dude, I don't even play the game, nor do I think I ever will, but I've watched so many of your videos. They interesting, entertaining, and well put together. Keep up the good work, and I wish you future success.
Same, I don't play any of the warhammer stuff, but I love game lore shit and I love how he covers it
I only own 60 something WH fantasy books but finally gave in to 40K lore vids since there are so many channels on it.
Me too, I just love the lore videos. Such vast world building
Ever since I’ve found your channel on accident I’ve found myself getting more and more interested in the lore. Despite watching most of your videos I can tell I’ve barely scratched the surface of everything
I've read & own about 60 WH fantasy books (Gotrek & Felix Slayer series in particular) but there is just so many channels for 40K that I could just watch some new lore anytime.
I have been the same as well bro
Id love to see you talk about the minotaurs, just on the bases of their strange loyalty to the highlords
I wonder what the Minotaurs do now that Rumble-buff and Counter-punch deposed the high lords?
I can just imagine the surprise of the red hunters every time they come across the space wolves and the space wolves start throwing hands because you know they haven't forgotten what they did
I had never heard of the exorcists but I love the concept. I like Raven guard but they're not obscure, and my only obscure fave would be the Soul Drinkers.
My opinion is that the Warp Ghosts are the first Corrupted Primaris Marine chapter, armour marks that the observers don't recognize, ships that are distinctly human but are unfamiliar
The primaris marines were not even thought of until well after the 13th crusade so unless they can time travel that is impossible.
@@briantalmage4498 Time travel is not unheard of in the Warp. There are many reports of ships emerging from the Immaterium in a time even before they had originally launched.
@@briantalmage4498 A guardsman warp in time to the old great crusade and when he wanted to warn the emperor he got kill because remember nobody in that moment believe Horus was a traitor
@@thelion2751i... did you have a stroke?
@@Gut7891 I have heard of instances of time travel through out the warhammer 40k time line. This is not one.of them. The Warp Ghosts are not corrupted Primaris Space Marines. There is no lore backing that up. If you believe there is go ahead and let me know the exact source and page number or quote and what book, magazine, codex or exactly where it came from. Besides the Warp Ghosts are so dam powerful it is completely irrelevant if there primaris or regular space marines. If you can't see that than you didn't read the excerpt from the story or read it and had no idea what they were talking about.
Would be awesome if the Carcharadons were in the next video for the series. A bunch of silent grey astartes with the brutality of the world eaters and the stealth of nightlords is just awesome.
The Grey Knights and Inquistion are more intertwined than you described, Malcador created both alongside each other and the Grey Knights routinely act as the military arm of the Ordo Malleus.
The Mentors and Death Specters definitely need more love. I can imagine a whole line of models for the Specters, if these guys have such an important job that even the indomitus crusade isn't worth their time, you know they gotta have some dope gear in that base of theirs
i always found the storm giants interesting. i first heard of them in a youtube video years ago and if i remember right they are known for immense strength (even by space marine standards). the youtuber who mentioned them said they could be a space marine thunder/warrior hynird which is unlikely but sounded cool. theyre likely sons of vulkan and i wish we saw more of vulkans gene sons in general. we have the imperial fists, crimson fists and black templars and each represents a part of rogal dorns personality. the black templars his rage, the imperial fists his stoicism and the crimson fists his stubborness. we dont have anything like that for vulkan and that feels like a huge waste.
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I would love to hear of a chapter that gave up power armor to more like Catachan Jungle Fighters.
I remember picking up the Exorcists when they were rumored to be Grey Knight successors. I was a little disappointed at first that they weren't, but the chapter is so ridiculously metal that I can hardly complain.
"While I am troubled by the sheer number of wayward sons my legion has produced, I must admit that the thought process behind this particular chapter's actions at least has some logic behind the reasoning. -even if I do not approve of the action themselves." -TTS Dorn, maybe
It wasnt a rumor, it was a certified fact mentioned in a Deathwatch short story, but they retconned it.
It's a Common knowledge they come from the seed of Lorgar Dorn.
I'm still running with the GK successor idea for mine. The old stuff implies and in one place even explicitly states it, the new Imperial Fists stuff has a few inconsistencies that allow us to play it off as a cover story if we like to. And I like to :)
The Black Dragons always reminded me of Baraka from Mortal Kombat thanks to the bone-blades.
Love your content wes, just started getting into WH40K lore like 2 weeks ago and im pretty sure ive binge watched most of the long form videos youve ever made. Keep it up!
always love to see someone new to the hobby
Welcome, Brother. As a 20ish year old fan of the universe I can say You chose a great mentor to start ;)
The Steel Confessors are a super cool legion that more people should know about, quite literally being a chapter made by the Admech for the Admech; essentially Space Marine Skitarii!
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Hoping for more videos like this! Maybe one about loyalist chapters with traitor gene-seed?
I have a theory on the Warp Ghosts. What if they are one of the Lost Legions? Maybe the 2nd or 11th Legions had too much Warp taint to the point that they possess Blank qualities yet exist in the Warp and cannot live anywhere else? Or they could be a legion that belongs to an Eldritch being that even the Chaos Gods wouldn't mess with?
That's a pretty good theory! I like it.
@@weshammer Or it could be a legion that belongs to one of the 20 mini gods that the Emperor made a deal with and when he stiffed them, one of them decided to make their own legion within the Warp and maybe there could be a representing "Primarch" for the Warp Ghosts in the Warp.
I hope you do a deep dive on the mysterious 13th Founding.
I know for a fact that the 2nd and 11th Legions along with their Primarchs personally took part in the infamous Rangdan Xenocides.
Maybe a being so dangerous that even the chaos gods dont want to mess with
All Chapters refuse to fight along side them. Salamanders: Do not speak of such things to our little brothers!
Please do imperial knights next. I love your channel Wes!
Dude please make this a series. I spent an evening reading about obscure chapter and it's super interesting.
I lile the mentors. They go around the imperium assisting the imperivm training special forces, strenghtening garrisons and using them to tip the scales galaxy wide. Reasonable marines without fanon.
not gonna lie would be interesting to see the chaos ghosts vs the legion of the damned, and see how that would turn out
I hadn't even heard of the Warp Ghosts until this video. Definitely a cool piece of lore!
Relictors! Using Chaos to fight Chaos as they themselves mutate due to its influence. Yet despite all of that, they stayed loyal until their complete destruction. I'm aware the main reason they get no love is because they are dead and gone, but I still wish they had more small stories about them or some kind of dedicated short series.
13:24 As if the Wolverine references weren't obvious enough.
For a second I thought that was a real ad I was having a fever dream😂😂 Ada
The verb form of ‘exorcism’ is to ‘exorcise’, you said it right my dude. It just so happens that in the process, the demon is excised from the host. Similar etymologies
Honestly the Black Dragons are my favourite chapters and I love seeing videos about them and the art for them is incredible. The short story about them in the book The Successors is also really good. Bless The Curse.
There's a series of books called "The Runelords" by the author David Farland in which the powers-that-be gain insane levels of power by robbing people of their physical abilities, and adding it to their own. They _have to keep the people they've robbed alive_ however, otherwise they lose the enhancement to their abilities, so war often involves wiping out these populations of people to weaken each other. The Exorcist chapter reminds me of this, but in reverse. Each of those imprisoned failed-space marines is like a tiny army of demons in an easily-deliverable package and I can't imagine anything good coming of the practice.
Is there a Beastman chapter out there somewhere? I love that the beastmen can exist as abhuman citizens inside the Imperium, and can be fanatically loyal even though they're so hated. That they are consistent in their mutation too just seems like the kind of thing that would lead to one existing somewhere, just like the Black Dragons.
Been wanting to make a Kill Team of the Black Dragons. Warp Ghosts sound intersting, but I like Legion of the Damned more
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02:22 you had us in the first half, not gonna lie.
As a black dragons player, I’m always happy to hear them talked about.
Please do more of these videos and maybe go into Chaos, Orks, Necrons, Eldar, Tau or Tyranids of factions that get mentioned but aren't spoken much about. Just an idea of what I think would be interesting.
Keep up the good work Wes really enjoy the videos you put out for our enjoyment
Every time I hear Warp Ghost, I can't help but feel they have Space Ghost voices. Thanks for the video.
Black legion novel with the warp time f***ery was great plot twist! Just because of how the warp works, I think the warriors they saw were the men they sacrificed just like Ashokai(sp). The exorcist are definitely the gnarly of this video for sure! The broken ones are definitely grim and dark
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I gotta say, out of all the underrated Space Marines my favorite are a bit more tame. I’ve really liked the Mentor Marines ever since I’ve first heard of them. A chapter that works in small groups to aid other characters or more likely to train a populace do defend themselves against the threats of the galaxy is something I like in media in general but as far as I can tell there’s next to no info on them, and I’d totally want them in my army if I had one
I've always hoped the Exorcists were actually secretly Word Bearer successors, would be kinda cool honestly
My favorite obscure space marine chapter are the Tax Evaders from planet Wal'Stret. They have never sent any gene seed to the Mechanicus
Thanks for referencing your source for the Warp Ghosts. Not many UA-camrs give us the info so we can track down these stories ourselves.👍🏻
Wes, your videos keep making me interested in trying to make lesser known chapters on the board, and inspire many potential kitbashes.
Ok, I genuinely got a chuckle out of your sponsor disclaimer. Hopefully they don't get mad at you for that and keep giving you money. 😂😂😂
I think my favorite is the Death Spectres. The lore about the throne under their home world is pretty neat. If you want to learn about them read the Deathwatch book from the Talon Squad series.
Ye, Steve Parker rocks!
I would have brought up the Space Wolves Wulfen rather than the Blood Angel's
One really cool chapter that's sadly been ruined as time went on were the Mentors
They were a secretive yet loyal chapter that worked alongside inquisitors and techproests a d they'd test out new weapons and xenotech, and deploy with other chapters to test the weapons in combat
Now they're just high lords pawns and possibly on the edge of corruption
Minotaurs?
This was awesome! I would like more content like this. The more unknown chapters and warbands!
Watching WesHammer until an add interrupts the video … an add with WesHammer. Inception level reached.
I got a Warhammer tacticus ad befor this video with Wes in it, weird experience
Please do more of these there are so many weird chapters that need to be recognized.
thank you for talking about the black dragons, they are my favorite obscure chapter :)
My favourite from these... I really want it to be the Warp Ghosts, but we don't enough about them. I mean, they say their armour and ships are futuristic, but futuristic how? How are they different, how are they more advanced?
So I'm going to have to say the Black Dragons are the favourite on this list, since they help show the potential for beneficial Gene-seed mutations. Imagine if that mutation was included in the original Legions and made wide-spread? All the Space Marines could have retractable bone blades! It would be awesome. And they aren't the only examples.
Oh perfect I needed something to listen to, just woke up randomly at 5 am. Weshammer wake n bake 🎉
I never thought I'd see an FGO character in a 40k video. Even if it was the meme ad it completely took me by surprise lmfao
LOLZ! Wes I loved that hilarious phoney game ad. I was thinking : What the hell lame-ass commercial is this? Where is the pull the lever to win real cash gameplay? Everyone knows that all games have a pull the lever in it
I love weshammer. The fake ad then the real one is the my favorite. I can usually guess the real ad but I love the fake more tbh😂😂
15:00 This is just basic genetic structuralism. The god emperor designed them to have these random "mutations", which are not cancerous chaotic mutations, but stable mutations that occur under specific circumstances according to a specific genetic design. I mean, their name is literally black dragons. It was done on purpose by their creator
The raid shadow legends ad was my favorite part 😂 way to sneak that in. Make that bread Wes
In your next one you could talk about the Star Phantoms. There’s not a ton of information for them besides the fact that they’re probably a dark angels successor chapter (their chapters symbol is that of the dreadwing) and both groups refuse to acknowledge it.
Deep dives on all the featured SpaceMarine 2 game chapers would be sick too! (That you dont already have.)
Maybe the Space Ghosts are Men of Iron? fractions of souls, futuristic yet clearly human. Or maybe even Men of Stone or Gold.
The first chaos warband (Warp Ghosts) mentioned are like a warp time travel mishap where Arkifane is a Chaos God and they are endowed by daemonic forged advanced tech and weaponry.
Black Dragons submitting "fake drug tests" to pass tithes so they can remain badass :p
I think theres a few Dark Angel's successors that are pretty cool. Disciples of Caliban specifically hunt for Cypher, The Consecrators use a lot of relics and all their firstborn members only wear armor thats MkVI or older, and The Guardians of the Covenant are robed monks that fight eldritch beings in the Halo Stars.
I have been playing with an idea of building a Minotaur army that has their tanks, dreadnoughts, and other vehicles have some remains or symbols and pieces of its original chapters colors on it showing that they use “borrowed” equipment.
That was an insane level of effort for a freaking Raid ad lmao
Actually knew all them, the black vipers have a pretty sick paint job same with the krakens chapter
"im addicted to audio books and plastic crack" - hitting the nail on the head
The Blood Angels had always been a favorite , but thats due to my dad playing space hulk when I was a kid and I believe you've done quite a few videos on them and they are really an off the beaten path space marine. I did like getting to learn about the Black Dragons though I think they will be come a new favorite.
Never knew about Warp Ghosts. So mysterious! Very intrigued
Cursed founding was one of the best thing for 40K lore. So many interesting, cool and dark chapters 👌
The Black dragons are awesome. I would greatly appreciate more content on them.
So Dorn's geneseed does give you some kind of resistence of warp things. Or et least the willpower bonus to battle then. Dosn't the Black Templas has some resist as well?
There's a lot of cool smaller chapters that show up on the Badab war. I have a carcharodons army, they even got a couple novels
Covenant of fire, one of two unknown chapters of the Salamanders.
I am new to Warhammer, but yeah, I want more of that.
Nice sponsor segment! Genuinely entertaining. Gotta get that paycheck somehow, might as well do it in style right!
Okay I laughed hard enough to get through the raid ad you’re good for that one
Wes. My dude. You spoil us with this many videos. God damn it I love you man
Exorcists and red hunters are some of the Chapter's i like best. I would like you to do some homebrew chapters
My favorite legion will always be the legion of the damned coming out of nowhere when the battle seems all but lost encased in glowing orange fire yet jet black and being hit by large amount of enemy fire they take no damage and they disappear once the battle is over just as they came
Dammit, you got my like from the Raid ad, even though I knew it was coming
Yo! I am making my kill teams (and eventually and army) of Red Hunters. I am a writer, and so I wanted to pick a chapter with not much info, and then write my own backstory.
My Lore for them: During and following the Horus Heresy, the imperium had to deal with Marines that seemed to be loyal amongst traitors. Maybe a squad or company from a traitor legion that were able to escape their traitorous brethren. Maybe a company or squad from a loyalist chapter declared for the warmaster, and a small loyal group kills them before turning themselves in. It was to address this issue that the forms and functions of the inquisition began to take shape. Marines that were cleared of being heretics were put together into a chapter known as the Red Hunters. They were tasked with hunting heretics and traitors as recompense for not being able to prevent the fall of their brothers. Due to this chapters intimate knowledge and extensive contact with Chaos, it was decided that they would not receive new Marines. The chapter's numbers dwindled as attrition took its toll. Following the disastrous 21st cursed founding, the inquisition decided to revitalize the chapter so that they could take a crusade to track down and exterminate any cursed chapters that betrayed the imperium. So, during the 22nd founding, the Red Hunters used unknown geneseed to bring their numbers back to that of full chapter strength.
Wow good job pretending, it reminds me of when I was 6 and made my own rules in card games
So Black Dragons have Wolverine claws?
Neat
Horns too
The most favourite would be the black dragons. They accept their flaws and use them to their advantage.
Needs more blacks dragons, death of antagonis is amazing
Black Dragons are my absolute favorite Space Marine chapter. They've got awesome arm swords made of bone.
I’m a big World Eaters fan. I was always interested in painting a War Hounds legion assault squad.
Would you have time to speak on the Soul Drinkers? Thanks for what you do 😊
I have 2 ideas for what the Warp Ghosts may be.
Version 1: Since humanity heavily guards the entrence to the Warp, The Warp Ghosts could be a specialized leagon designed for guarding the entrence on the other side of the Eye of Terror.
This could be done by having them be based on a type of assisns that exist in the Imperium. I don't remember theyre name, but to my knowledge they didn't have souls. So maybe a Space Marine version of those ?
Version 2: They are the 2nd or the 11th legion, that got banished into the Warp. Or the 2nd and 11th legion are specialy designed for guarding the Eye of Terror, which is why we don't know about them.
Version 2.5: Just athought but maybe they are 1 of the lost Prymarchs that got split into pices and now exist in the warp.