Nets - not such a great idea in battle

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  • Nets in battle may not have been very effective. If spears and shields are better - use those. Gladiatorial kit is for show-duels.
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    Here I ramble for a bit and speculate about my reasons for why nets were not used more in battle. I wasn't there, and I don't actually know one way or the other, but the evidence for net-use in battle is poor. I describe practical considerations that might explain why other weapons were preferred in this context. Yes, the retiarius used one on the sands of the arena, but he was doing so in order to entertain, not to win at any cost.
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  • @lordofdarkdudes
    @lordofdarkdudes 8 років тому +4448

    What if you are figthing an army of fish?

    • @joshuahadams
      @joshuahadams 8 років тому +154

      Stay on the beach and build a pier with an outhouses along the edges.

    • @caityreads8070
      @caityreads8070 8 років тому +103

      Then you get Caligula

    • @flipflierefluiter5665
      @flipflierefluiter5665 7 років тому +193

      stab the sea that'll teach 'em

    • @lordofdarkdudes
      @lordofdarkdudes 7 років тому +9

      Devron Sijmons hi Caligula

    • @a1919akelbo
      @a1919akelbo 7 років тому +34

      Just throw some tnt in the water, the shock wave will kill everything in a billion mile radius

  • @grimli16
    @grimli16 8 років тому +2833

    if you cut a hole into a net
    the net will have less holes after

    • @grimli16
      @grimli16 8 років тому +240

      if you cut a hole in a net you will have less holes in the net
      think about it

    • @Eg9yBoy
      @Eg9yBoy 7 років тому +102

      +grimli16 holy shit

    • @officernasty6023
      @officernasty6023 7 років тому +29

      grimli16 woah.

    • @ErwinPommel
      @ErwinPommel 7 років тому +112

      Fewer holes

    • @grimli16
      @grimli16 7 років тому +30

      Samt1516 youre right. Thanks for reminding me, i always make that error

  • @billlupin8345
    @billlupin8345 7 років тому +1563

    To paraphrase this whole video...
    "But what if they've got a pointed stick?"

    • @An_excellent_YouTube_account
      @An_excellent_YouTube_account 5 років тому +62

      pointed stick?! Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh?!

    • @nevermind-he8ni
      @nevermind-he8ni 5 років тому +21

      @@An_excellent_UA-cam_account Have we done bananas?

    • @howaboutnow1895
      @howaboutnow1895 4 роки тому +12

      @@nevermind-he8ni a 16 ton weight

    • @WrestleGermainia
      @WrestleGermainia 2 роки тому +3

      I've come to realise most of histories questions can be answered with "But what if they've got a pointed stick?"

    • @realdragon
      @realdragon Рік тому

      Pointy stick once more proven superior

  • @ItsDomke
    @ItsDomke 6 років тому +573

    6:40 "He'll probably be able to cut his way out..."
    NO! DON'T CUT MY ROPE!

  • @busteraycan
    @busteraycan 7 років тому +1881

    THROW IT ON HIM NOT ME!

    • @fabianchitay745
      @fabianchitay745 7 років тому +112

      Burak Baggins let's try something else

    • @ohlookitsme9913
      @ohlookitsme9913 7 років тому +89

      Burak Baggins Now watch and learn, heres the deal

    • @imafuckingnazi619
      @imafuckingnazi619 7 років тому +75

      slip and fall on a banna peel

    • @fr0sty284
      @fr0sty284 7 років тому +101

      *WHAT ARE YOU DOING*

    • @JayV27
      @JayV27 7 років тому +63

      NO DON'T TOUCH THAT!

  • @frac
    @frac 8 років тому +2440

    My only question is, "Who is Annette, and why was she in so many gladiator battles?"

    • @malhekai
      @malhekai 8 років тому +251

      Puns reduce your life expectancy by ten years you know?

    • @psychozoikum7278
      @psychozoikum7278 8 років тому +146

      +Malhekrow Not if they include Annette. Annette makes your life much longer.

    • @HistoricaHungarica
      @HistoricaHungarica 8 років тому +152

      +Psycho Zoikum With A-nnette total of 10 years.

    • @thehungrywolf3323
      @thehungrywolf3323 8 років тому +117

      That pun was pretty good, you must be Anette-ural at this.

    • @Agrestic
      @Agrestic 8 років тому +7

      +Fracture When your puns are expertly placed but the rest of the comments are dull.

  • @budicaesar1213
    @budicaesar1213 7 років тому +1954

    When I say "GO", be ready to throw!

    • @kai_unix
      @kai_unix 7 років тому +240

      *THROW IT AT HIM NOT ME!*

    • @sheepsauruszillarex1332
      @sheepsauruszillarex1332 7 років тому +13

      I only watched this video to know if I would find this haha

    • @OchaFauzan01
      @OchaFauzan01 6 років тому +4

      Deus vult ave maria

    • @blakehawkins3296
      @blakehawkins3296 5 років тому +7

      i am retarded but I feel like I’m translating things wrong... but did you Say “I want the bird sea god”????
      Also I like your name

    • @baconbitz7937
      @baconbitz7937 5 років тому +6

      RIP
      #1

  • @SamsTechTips
    @SamsTechTips 7 років тому +729

    I knew that wasn't just a large badger in my garden.....

    • @pikaiabattaile4517
      @pikaiabattaile4517 3 роки тому +8

      I swear, at times he reads like a younger weaponry-minded Michael Rosen

    • @T.benford
      @T.benford 3 роки тому

      Lol

    • @ShinFahima
      @ShinFahima 3 роки тому +6

      It was a Lindybadger.

    • @jd_elderberry
      @jd_elderberry 3 роки тому +2

      Rather tall for any creature.

    • @mjmulenga3
      @mjmulenga3 2 роки тому

      Quit badgering Lloyd.

  • @EvilBobarino
    @EvilBobarino 7 років тому +2160

    Why didn't they use laser guns in medieval combat???

    • @jankansi5679
      @jankansi5679 7 років тому +451

      Because the katanas would block them.

    • @DarkFlamesDarkness
      @DarkFlamesDarkness 7 років тому +190

      Batteries were really hard to make back then.

    • @pcarrierorange
      @pcarrierorange 7 років тому +162

      Evil Bob
      Pommels are superior when you wish to end you enemy rightly.

    • @tervaaku
      @tervaaku 7 років тому +28

      Richard Alley The Skall memes are invading!

    • @mikhailgorbachev3721
      @mikhailgorbachev3721 7 років тому +7

      Evil Bob They all had Spandaus.

  • @Phlebas
    @Phlebas 7 років тому +232

    8:12 Regarding soldiers dressed up like gladiators.
    I'm suddenly imagining war re-enactors 2000 years from now dressed up like WWE fighters.

    • @zacharysazama798
      @zacharysazama798 4 роки тому +5

      Or football players.

    • @artemreinhart747
      @artemreinhart747 4 роки тому +1

      Phlebas or kpop fans

    • @joanignasi91
      @joanignasi91 4 роки тому +14

      We would have 4020's Lindybeige making videos explaining why we didn't smash chairs on each other's head in battles

    • @andrewharper1609
      @andrewharper1609 4 роки тому

      Spandex a go go!

  • @dansea6686
    @dansea6686 6 років тому +17

    "he's a terrified man, he's got weapons and he'd much rather be somewhere else". describes most soldiers after the battle has started, in most wars throughout human history, with one sentence. i love this man.

  • @rand0m0mg
    @rand0m0mg 4 роки тому +221

    7:49 How about, as a cavalry - have a hand net, as in one of those that you catch butterflies with, but giant, to catch brute infantrymen..

    • @rand0m0mg
      @rand0m0mg 4 роки тому +26

      Yu Xiang Yao oh damn... didn’t think of that before i armed my men this morning, better send my fastest scout to catch up with them. Thanks brother.

    • @sirchuckalooski3256
      @sirchuckalooski3256 3 роки тому

      Lmao man I like it I like it

    • @senorsombrero1275
      @senorsombrero1275 3 роки тому +10

      @Yu Xiang Yao
      “haha I got you- OH CHRIST”
      -The Captain of the 1st net cavalry’s final words before being pulled from his steed

    • @fakshen1973
      @fakshen1973 3 роки тому

      If I can reach out and capture you with a net on the end of a stick, I might as a long stick with a pointy, pointy metal tip.

    • @riks081
      @riks081 2 роки тому

      @@fakshen1973 thanks, captain obvious

  • @Starkillerscat
    @Starkillerscat 7 років тому +1223

    Now look at this net, that I just found!

    • @frog_champ
      @frog_champ 7 років тому +93

      When I say "go", be ready to throw!

    • @Starkillerscat
      @Starkillerscat 7 років тому +74

      Becuz Potato GO

    • @frog_champ
      @frog_champ 7 років тому +95

      Starkiller's cat *T H R O W I T O N H I M N O T M E*

    • @Starkillerscat
      @Starkillerscat 7 років тому +77

      Becuz Potato *U G H* Let's try something else

    • @aduck4202
      @aduck4202 7 років тому +69

      Now watch and learn, here's the deal

  • @FenrirWolfe1
    @FenrirWolfe1 8 років тому +378

    I would like to point out that the "get out of my garden" joke is pure gold.

    • @rosieclarke9990
      @rosieclarke9990 8 років тому +10

      +Fenrir Wolfe It's not original, sadly; it's a joke by stand-up Michael Redmond.

    • @simonrbone
      @simonrbone 6 років тому +3

      ua-cam.com/video/0YE9Kthyaco/v-deo.html

    • @Robert399
      @Robert399 5 років тому +9

      +Fenrir Wolfe Wow! really? "Attention, fellow viewers, I would like to point out that the joke you have just experienced is most humorous."

    • @gabrieltsgardner9942
      @gabrieltsgardner9942 5 років тому +1

      Caught that reference too, well, specifically the Lee bit :P

    • @oldoddjobs
      @oldoddjobs 3 роки тому

      @@rosieclarke9990 actually it's a Joe Pasquale original

  • @Johnyknowhow
    @Johnyknowhow 7 років тому +383

    What about the effectiveness of using a banana peel? Or how about a poisoned apple?
    On a side note, would someone who is technically, eh, a real villian be able to use a net in battle?

    • @brandongaedke4778
      @brandongaedke4778 7 років тому +4

      Johnyknowhow chemical warfare, using poisoned apples to kill

    • @probablynot8154
      @probablynot8154 7 років тому +30

      What about psychological warfare? Why not strap someone to a cannon ball?

    • @Ezio999Auditore
      @Ezio999Auditore 7 років тому +4

      Naaaaaah, naaaaaah!

    • @SVP-uy9qb
      @SVP-uy9qb 4 роки тому +1

      Did you just told them the 100% killing chance strat of the poisoned apple?

    • @henryambrose8607
      @henryambrose8607 4 роки тому

      2016, what a time.

  • @Abelhawk
    @Abelhawk 7 років тому +126

    9 minutes later and I'm still laughing at that "Some people say to me, 'Oi! You! Get out of my garden!'" joke 😆

    • @delta-a17
      @delta-a17 3 роки тому

      I don't get it.

    • @oldoddjobs
      @oldoddjobs 3 роки тому +3

      A Michael Redmond joke, infamously stolen by Joe Pasquale (and now Lloyd)

    • @seannoone8129
      @seannoone8129 Рік тому

      ‘Lindybeige, out of context’

    • @antonioborobia4178
      @antonioborobia4178 Рік тому

      i see you everywhere asshole.

  • @violacrb
    @violacrb 8 років тому +791

    Fish nets on the battlefield were quite terrifying. Especially when worn by the cavalry.

    • @jony4real
      @jony4real 8 років тому +156

      +violacrb They would save all their old ugly people for the fishnet division. Sometimes the entire opposing army would agree to surrender in exchange for covering up a bit.

    • @FIREPHOENIXX234
      @FIREPHOENIXX234 8 років тому +3

      +jony4real +1

    • @quijybojanklebits8750
      @quijybojanklebits8750 8 років тому +2

      lmao

    • @muskatDR
      @muskatDR 8 років тому +37

      +violacrb Only seahorse cavalry used it effectivly tho

    • @Mr.Ford3350
      @Mr.Ford3350 8 років тому +4

      +violacrb I imagine those nets would have to be quite small to be castable while on horseback. Also, if they're small, they'd only disable one person at a time. You'd have to get quite close as well. It doesn't sound terribly useful, to be honest.

  • @MacCoalieCoalson
    @MacCoalieCoalson 7 років тому +536

    I'd imagine a net, especially with hooks, would be hard to throw and not tangle up in the process.

    • @MacCoalieCoalson
      @MacCoalieCoalson 7 років тому +25

      They could also cut your ropes that you used to make that net lol

    • @rune.theocracy
      @rune.theocracy 7 років тому +3

      nets with heavy weights on the corners?

    • @pyroparagon8945
      @pyroparagon8945 7 років тому +4

      Adriel Cedrick it's heavy, kinda hard to throw

    • @alimertc
      @alimertc 4 роки тому +2

      @@pyroparagon8945 Maybe something that can be fired from a bow or a similar device could be usefull.

    • @sarahsayshello9726
      @sarahsayshello9726 4 роки тому +1

      @@alimertc haha not how archery works, the idea is cute

  • @dirkbastardrelief
    @dirkbastardrelief 4 роки тому +64

    Do yu get the sense that when Lloyd was playing as a child, and a friend would say, "I got you with my machine gun", Lloyd would say, "No, I'm wearing plated armor I found in a barn, and now I can just throw a hand grenade at you...."

  • @japeking1
    @japeking1 5 років тому +68

    What if you used 'castanets" instead? Tight formation and that terrifying clacking sound.

    • @clareryan2640
      @clareryan2640 2 роки тому

      AND….the terrifying sense of approaching cavalry - you watched Holy Grail right?? Nothing more scary than the sound of castenets (apart from the Inquisition of course. No one expects the Inquisition)

  • @Isvoor
    @Isvoor 8 років тому +820

    6:42 Cut their way out??? I can't believe I am hearing this from you of all people! Cutting precious rope... :(

    • @MalloonTarka
      @MalloonTarka 8 років тому +43

      +Isvoor It wasn't their rope, though, and the rope itself couldn't be too thick or it would be too heavy to throw.

    • @Zilap9
      @Zilap9 8 років тому +63

      +MalloonTarka someone didnt get the joke.

    • @MalloonTarka
      @MalloonTarka 8 років тому +39

      +Lapiz Bouchaut What's a joke? Is it a type of net?

    • @Zilap9
      @Zilap9 8 років тому +52

      +MalloonTarka yes, it is a type of net you can make out of a rare rope called "humor"

    • @anton-se6sl
      @anton-se6sl 6 років тому +2

      www.google.se/search?q=is+there+a+rope+called+humor&rlz=1C1GGRV_enSE754SE754&oq=is+there+a+rope+called+humor&aqs=chrome..69i57.5383j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

  • @frysause934
    @frysause934 7 років тому +777

    I'm on a "Lindybinge."

  • @impguardwarhamer
    @impguardwarhamer 7 років тому +144

    NOW LOOK AT THIS NET! THAT I JUST FOUND!

    • @genessab
      @genessab 7 років тому

      Communist_Penguin omfggg

    • @deadmeme8011
      @deadmeme8011 7 років тому +13

      WHEN I SAY, GO, BE READY TO THROW!

    • @kai_unix
      @kai_unix 7 років тому +17

      *THROW IT AT THE GENT, NOT ME.*

  • @GlitchyShadow13
    @GlitchyShadow13 7 років тому +112

    Probably because when the general orders his soldiers to throw the net at the enemy, they throw it on the general instead of the enemy.

    • @kyrnti1075
      @kyrnti1075 4 роки тому +4

      @Chungus Khan uhh lets try something else

  • @OsKuukkeli
    @OsKuukkeli 8 років тому +202

    Dear mister Beige, please do a video on beasts of war. Fiery pigs, war hounds, combat chickens, elephants and such. Sincerely, me.

    • @RuSosan
      @RuSosan 8 років тому +53

      +OsKuukkeli
      ... Combat chickens?
      Oh. OH!
      So THAT'S why everyone attacks me in Skyrim when I kill a chicken. It's a member of the local guard, like a watchdog!

    • @joshuahadams
      @joshuahadams 8 років тому

      +RuSosan I think they're just cock fighting chickens with knives tied to their wings.

    • @RuSosan
      @RuSosan 8 років тому +13

      NamedCow 750
      Bah!
      You clearly have NO idea what you're talking about.
      :)

    • @MrGameroyadvance
      @MrGameroyadvance 8 років тому +2

      +OsKuukkeli yes and bees!

    • @joshuahadams
      @joshuahadams 8 років тому

      +RoyRetroking bees ate too tame. Use wasps or hornets.

  • @peridoodle2644
    @peridoodle2644 7 років тому +935

    Lloyd, what have you been doing in those people's gardens?

    • @kevinsullivan3448
      @kevinsullivan3448 7 років тому +88

      Certainly not drinking tea.

    • @JL-dance
      @JL-dance 7 років тому +110

      Peridoodle stealing beige things i suppose

    • @novafire1150
      @novafire1150 7 років тому +18

      probably taking their tomatoes and green beans. my neighbor constantly sneaks into my yard and steals the peaches off the trees I have planted.

    • @BlacksmithTWD
      @BlacksmithTWD 7 років тому +5

      I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. So in stead of stealing beige things i'd opt for doing the lindy :)

    • @theknight660
      @theknight660 7 років тому +2

      Peridoodle he was taking there "lemons"

  • @elrondhubbard7059
    @elrondhubbard7059 5 років тому +15

    "Hmmmmm yeees, the Tiny Net is a _death sentence._ It's a net, and it's tiny."
    -- Betty

    • @S.Grenier
      @S.Grenier 3 роки тому

      Extremely underrated comment, master Pain.

  • @axslaps
    @axslaps 4 роки тому +4

    I like that you put thought into the scenario with "What if this could be a disadvantage? Okay, suppose it failed to work, them maybe you could do this. But there's this problem now, or this guy is in your face now, etc."

  • @addressedtokill
    @addressedtokill 8 років тому +468

    But twirling and snapping wet towels at your enemy worked, right?

    • @cailumgrantham-tibbitt8543
      @cailumgrantham-tibbitt8543 8 років тому +48

      I think your refering to another form of "combat"

    • @addressedtokill
      @addressedtokill 8 років тому +11

      :)

    • @janbaer3241
      @janbaer3241 8 років тому +95

      The wet towel is forbidden in warfare. It is too terrifying a weapon for anyone to use.

    • @ImGazu
      @ImGazu 8 років тому +20

      They would surrender

    • @Ezio999Auditore
      @Ezio999Auditore 7 років тому +9

      *Sometimes I think the internet will ruin me...*

  • @LegendaryGelder
    @LegendaryGelder 8 років тому +118

    haha, april fools, we all know nets were the greatest weapon a man could get his hands on in the middle ages

  • @simbachvazo6530
    @simbachvazo6530 4 роки тому +2

    Lindybeige, a historian-comedian-blacksmith-cameraworking-(Every other thing he does like the badass he is) who you could listen to for hours and be entertained and learn all at once.

  • @L1n34r
    @L1n34r 5 років тому +5

    I think one thing you're forgetting to mention here is that nets, especially large nets, were expensive. The labor that goes into, say, making the tip of a spear is nothing compared to the labor of rope-making, forging hooks, and tying together large amounts of sturdy rope into a net. You could probably equip 6 spearmen with spears for the same price as you could equip one warrior fisherman.

  • @ArchArturo
    @ArchArturo 8 років тому +78

    "Uh... Why is Fred carrying a net and a scythe?"
    "Pay no attention to Fred, we purposely trained him wrong... as a joke"

    • @frh6668
      @frh6668 8 років тому +9

      "You mean these aren't normal infantry weapons!? I could have sworn....Wait. Don't tell me my spiked armour is wrong too!"

    • @brotherbarnaby4464
      @brotherbarnaby4464 8 років тому +3

      +ArchArturo
      "Oh Taco Bell, Taco Bell! Product placement with Taco Bell! Enchirito, MACHO BURRITO!" - *Master Tang*

    • @mILOS88pND
      @mILOS88pND 8 років тому

      +ArchArturo wiuuuwiiiuuuwiiii

    • @John12494
      @John12494 8 років тому +2

      +ArchArturo "Face to foot style, how do you like it?"

  • @Koolaidrulz21
    @Koolaidrulz21 8 років тому +151

    But what if the weights in the nets were pommels?

    • @ruzzyshuya4832
      @ruzzyshuya4832 8 років тому +29

      +YRUThinkn Catch your foe AND end them rightly?

    • @Koolaidrulz21
      @Koolaidrulz21 8 років тому +34

      Catch them rightly?

    • @ruzzyshuya4832
      @ruzzyshuya4832 8 років тому +17

      Catch them rightly whilst you unscrew your pommel in order to end them rightly.

    • @thegreattotemaster
      @thegreattotemaster 8 років тому +12

      +RuzzyShuya Step 1: A bunch of men unscrew their pommels and attach them all to a net.
      Step 2: The net is thrown with all those pommels attached to it.
      Step 3: ???
      Step 4: PROFIT (rightly)

    • @ruzzyshuya4832
      @ruzzyshuya4832 8 років тому +3

      thegreattotemaster rightly so!

  • @micahmccormick9532
    @micahmccormick9532 4 роки тому +5

    Nets are surprisingly easy to cast, even nets that are 9-feet around. It could be quite effective in a one on one, but a large conflict is no place for nets.

  • @uncleunicode7871
    @uncleunicode7871 7 років тому +20

    Robbie Rotten should have watched this video

  • @NonApplicable1983
    @NonApplicable1983 8 років тому +28

    A few advantages of the Retiarius (the fisherman): their most common opponent, the Murmillo (the fish man) had a helmet that was specifically designed to get tangled in the net. Also, since he was much more lightly equipped than other gladiators, the Retiarius could run away, forcing his opponents to tire themselves chasing him in their enclosed metallic helmets and carrying their large shields.

    • @AudieHolland
      @AudieHolland 8 років тому +3

      *+Rodrigo Ugarte (machiavellianFictionist)* And then the Retiarius would get tired chasing him and finally he might collapse from cardiac arrest.

    • @mrglibb
      @mrglibb 8 років тому

      +AudieHolland 11/10 gud reference

    • @TheBigMclargehuge
      @TheBigMclargehuge 8 років тому

      +AudieHolland cool wiki bro

    • @AudieHolland
      @AudieHolland 8 років тому +1

      Come on, the OP can't be serious since gladiators 'running away' is a clear reference to Monty Python's "Life of Brian." Including cardiac arrest.

    • @NonApplicable1983
      @NonApplicable1983 8 років тому +1

      AudieHolland I don't mean run away as in escape the arena, I mean to stay out of the other gladiator's reach and let them become fatigued. Contemporary accounts actually contain criticism about how the Retiarius would avoid combat, sometimes resulting in pretty boring matches.

  • @Hashslingingslasher-
    @Hashslingingslasher- 8 років тому +129

    Catapults shouldve shot weighted nets that just engulfed the entire army

    • @MsSomeonenew
      @MsSomeonenew 8 років тому +10

      +Hashslingingslasher
      That would mean they are far away and get plenty of time to get out of those nets, quite a bit more useful to shoot deadly stuff instead.

    • @Hashslingingslasher-
      @Hashslingingslasher- 8 років тому +4

      MsSomeonenew good point, but, if you shot close range nets i feel thatd work just fine

    • @MrWizardjr9
      @MrWizardjr9 8 років тому +7

      +MsSomeonenew attach heavy stones

    • @Carancerth
      @Carancerth 8 років тому +2

      +Hashslingingslasher
      =D HUMMM Just why?
      When you can simply load things really efficients for kill the opponent more directly =D

    • @Hashslingingslasher-
      @Hashslingingslasher- 8 років тому +2

      Chris Vernel I thought about that, but nets are lighter and would cover more area

  • @lallyoisin
    @lallyoisin 4 роки тому +16

    Love your content (humour included)
    In 'the art of war" my favourite quote is "better to be a warrior in a garden than a gardener in a war"
    There is a lot of wisdom in this quote but I'd like to debunk or at least neutralise it a bit. Some wars lasted decades and food sources got scarce. Camp was near a river for water. A gardener could be priceless! A Fisherman equally so!
    I would say that nets were used in battle but as a last resort. When they saved a life or captured a foe, the story became immortalised and went down in the mainstream history books. If a soldier was burried with his net and excavated hundreds or thousands of years later; it was his skill set being honoured and not necessarily his fighting acumen. He or she may have possessed both.
    Peace!

    • @AsbestosMuffins
      @AsbestosMuffins 4 роки тому

      i think soldiers generally were surrounded then given the option to surrender, or overwhelmed and then roped up, netting them still has all the same problems described above.

  • @EricGarber
    @EricGarber 7 років тому +1

    I'm learning so much from this channel! Thank you!

  • @wolfieinu
    @wolfieinu 8 років тому +43

    The gladiator army thing makes me think that in the far future, they might have "reasonably accurate" historical entertainment where present-day military campaigns are conducted with the assistance of people dressed as superheroes and WWE personalities.
    In fact, from a future text:
    The Hulk (or "Hogan") was an ancient class of warrior, depicted sometimes as a man with a red headcloth and a mustache, and at other times painted green, presumably as camouflage in forest settings. There is general agreement that this warrior's signature "Smash" move was very effective in cases where hand-to-hand battle was joined, such as when firearms were unavailable. It is reasonable to assume that the later invention of "bulletproof vests" allowed them to operate even in environments where firearms were a concern. Most feared by enemy warriors was their berserker-like rage, leading to the common admonishment that one would not want to even see a Hulk in anger. They were adept at using their environment to their advantage, for example by ricocheting off nearby ropes to propel them into the midst of the enemy formation, causing confusion and allowing regular Marine units to move in after them. There are no known examples of a dedicated Hulk attack being successfully defended against.
    [labeled diagram of a Hulk on a white background]

    • @goblinrat6119
      @goblinrat6119 8 років тому +1

      +Wolfie Inu Likely not. I mean, our information recording and retention is so much better nowadays that barring a catastrophic, total destruction of our vast stores of knowledge (and by necessity, probably our whole civilization), the people of the future will know how we lived our lives, down to the most minute of details.
      If you think about it, even the most inconsequential of regular, ordinary people are leaving very accurate records of their everyday life, to say nothing of actually important things.

    • @wolfieinu
      @wolfieinu 8 років тому +3

      Goblin Rat True. That was a joke. :P

    • @ignathiel
      @ignathiel 5 років тому +1

      Not necessarily. People of the future would probably not have technology compatible with our recording devices. Actually, they probably wouldn't even recognize flash drives, discs, or computers as information carriers.

    • @ignathiel
      @ignathiel 5 років тому

      Not to mention that our recording devices probably wouldn't be working at all. If I had kept any walkman CDs from the 90s they probably wouldn't work anymore ;d I am certain that an old Windows XP disc I tried recently didn't work at all, and I couldn't install it ;d

    • @ZGryphon
      @ZGryphon 5 років тому

      Mark Twain included a passage from a hypothetical far-future encyclopedia entry attempting to describe Ulysses S. Grant in one of his books, I think it was _The Innocents Abroad._ It was quite similar in feel to the original post. And of course there's David Macaulay's book _Motel of the Mysteries,_ which is about archaeologists in the far future trying to work out what a preserved 20th-century motel was for. (They assume it was a religious complex, because archaeologists always think any large building must have been a religious complex, don't they? :)

  • @DIY_Miracle
    @DIY_Miracle 8 років тому +73

    Video published on april 1st... so... nets are actually a grand idea?

  • @aquilaofdeath7660
    @aquilaofdeath7660 7 років тому

    I ding know why but your voice is relaxing to me and I can fall asleep easily but even when I do I don't know how but I learn what your point of the video is even at the parts that I wasn't awake for it. So I can get some sleep and learn at the same time somehow. You sir are magical!

  • @taylorwickham
    @taylorwickham 4 роки тому +1

    The only way I can see nets working are going if their are cliffs around the battlefield and you have met casters up there. However in this situation archers would still probably be more affective.

  • @GwaetherBloom
    @GwaetherBloom 8 років тому +132

    They'd be effective if used on a boat and the enemy army is underwater... Like fish and crabs

    • @Yorikoification
      @Yorikoification 8 років тому +11

      +Gwaether Bloom Excellent for when Cthulhu comes with his army of fishmen

    • @chancepaladin
      @chancepaladin 8 років тому +5

      +Gwaether Bloom and in the year of our Lord AD223 the great siege of the fishing vessel SS Flounder was foiled when the attacking force got stuck in all of the fishing hooks, fishing nets, and crab pots expertly placed around the ye mighty vessel! And thats why people stopped attacking fishing vessels! The end. ;)

    • @chancepaladin
      @chancepaladin 8 років тому +2

      ***** bwahahahaha!!!! save a mermaid for me! I will give her a nice big fish tank to play in and everything!

  • @jaegercucksbane4243
    @jaegercucksbane4243 8 років тому +90

    Were hot air balloons ever used in war? Could they have been?

    • @andrewrosniac3500
      @andrewrosniac3500 8 років тому +21

      I believe that they were used in WW1 for something like stationary observations

    • @lindybeige
      @lindybeige  8 років тому +94

      +Octavio Brokchaves Yes, in the American Civil War they were used (tethered) for observation platforms. An air force that cannot return from a mission unless the wind reverses at just the right moment, is not an arm of service for which recruitment would be easy.

    • @MsFlamingFlamer
      @MsFlamingFlamer 8 років тому +3

      Napoleon considered sending his army over in gallons over the English Channel

    • @z3r070000
      @z3r070000 8 років тому

      +Octavio Brokchaves What about zeppelins?

    • @GoblinKnightLeo
      @GoblinKnightLeo 8 років тому +3

      They were also used during our military excursions into Cuba, although to far less effect because they had to be directly over whatever officers they were trying to report to, thus revealing the position of ground troops and exposing them to artillery and heavy machine gun fire.

  • @2goXD
    @2goXD 7 років тому

    Ok, this is so interesting and so much fun to watch.
    You got my sub mister, i'm really glad i came across your channel.

  • @johnb6329
    @johnb6329 7 років тому +7

    Look at this net, that I've just found!

  • @georgecataloni4720
    @georgecataloni4720 8 років тому +195

    Maybe in the future people will be asking why the military of today don't use boxing gloves.

    • @manictiger
      @manictiger 8 років тому +34

      +George Cataloni
      In the far future, they'll think that impaling was part of baseball because the cleats have spikes on them.
      The purpose of the bat is pretty obvious, of course. It's for beating opponents to death.
      The ball? Another weapon, of course.
      And everyone wore Umpire's armor, not that it helped much.
      That sand is red for a reason.

    • @georgecataloni4720
      @georgecataloni4720 8 років тому +12

      manictiger Lol, there's actually some dialogue in Fallout 4 that is pretty much this. The people that live in the repurposed Fenway park call the bats "swatters" and thought of baseball as a death match sport. Also, the security in that "town" wear modded umpire armor lol

    • @manictiger
      @manictiger 8 років тому

      George Cataloni
      I was thinking of that about 1/6th into writing that, actually.

    • @Zamolxes77
      @Zamolxes77 8 років тому +8

      +manictiger And they'll have giant spiders riding out of the bullpen and the ball tethered to the ground by an elastic string. Blernsball !!!

    • @talinpeacy7222
      @talinpeacy7222 5 років тому

      Or "why they didn't put guns on the missles and instead of blowing up, just shooting at the enemy"

  • @ILikeToColourRed
    @ILikeToColourRed 8 років тому +23

    LLoyds primary concern in battle: embarrassment. Noone wants to go to war just to make a fool of themselves!

    • @DrSardonicus
      @DrSardonicus 8 років тому

      Well embarrassment generally means you screwed up.
      You don't want to screw up in battle. Highly unlikely to get a second chance once you've been speared in the neck.
      So yes, it is advisable to avoid embarrassment in such a scenario.

    • @MrChickennugget360
      @MrChickennugget360 8 років тому

      +FuZZy961 that and your mates generally don't appreciate it when you do things likely to get yourself killed. generally people in the military have very little patience for stupidity, particularly when they are in mortal combat

  • @ZGryphon
    @ZGryphon 5 років тому +1

    You could say it offers no net advantage.
    Thank you! I'm here all week.

  • @alexfasce2524
    @alexfasce2524 7 років тому

    your videos are so interesting and some what random. whenever I'm bored ik I I'll find something interesting here

  • @Feminismisfornobody
    @Feminismisfornobody 8 років тому +48

    Why were you in my garden Loyd?

  • @UnitedJupiter91
    @UnitedJupiter91 8 років тому +38

    Cut open the net? I think that any man in their right mind would never cut open a rope net!

    • @jacoblewis3148
      @jacoblewis3148 8 років тому +7

      +UnitedJupiter bag that thing and take it home, obviously. speak of the spoils of war...

    • @CAepicreviews
      @CAepicreviews 8 років тому

      +Jacob Lewis At times, war/battle can be quite profitable...

    • @Ianlegendstone
      @Ianlegendstone 8 років тому

      Bag that net, take it home, name it Leopoldo, frame it, and call it modern art, then sell it on the medieval equivalent of eBay and hope for the best.

    • @josethebourgeoisiebear8770
      @josethebourgeoisiebear8770 8 років тому +1

      +Jacob Lewis
      Hello wifie, I'm back alive from the front lines.
      Look what I brought back in the spoils of war, a net.

    • @jacoblewis3148
      @jacoblewis3148 8 років тому

      José the Bourgeoisie Bear ropes expensive af man, she'd be thrilled.

  • @skeletonkeysproductionskp
    @skeletonkeysproductionskp 2 роки тому +1

    So inspiring to know that History channels can get so many views and subscribers, its a real inspiration to my own channel! Keep up the good work Sir!

  • @frostaegis8653
    @frostaegis8653 8 років тому +20

    in battle, yes, a net is kinda cruddy, but, in a dark dwarven dungeon where the party's archer is lining up a shot at the automaton with a sword and shield, the seemingly unarmed automaton fires his built-in-net-launcher, that fires +1 nets over a longer distance, entangles the archer for 3 rounds of combat, effectively taking him out of the fight. :D
    +1 nets... oh gods why...

    • @seanmadson8524
      @seanmadson8524 8 років тому +2

      +Joonas Ahonen In a universe where a sword can be "+1", indicating a vague betterness without directly explaining why other than "cuz magic", what is wrong with making a net with similarly mysterious superiority to other nets? (not saying I respect the system, just pointing out the inherently ridiculous nature of the game mechanics to begin with)

    • @SgtKOnyx
      @SgtKOnyx 6 років тому

      Sean Madson a +1 bowl perhaps

  • @myrkvir5606
    @myrkvir5606 8 років тому +10

    "Oi! get out of my garden!" Lloyd, that sir, is comic genius.

  • @MrH1207
    @MrH1207 3 роки тому +1

    For the last 12 years (at least) you have been a hidden gem 💎

  • @steverichardson4808
    @steverichardson4808 7 років тому

    I very much enjoy your videos Mr Lindybeige

  • @Mystakaphoros
    @Mystakaphoros 8 років тому +27

    Rumor has it that underneath Lloyd's shirt and jumper is... another jumper.

    • @weltgeist2604
      @weltgeist2604 8 років тому +3

      Maybe he is made of pure beige, I can see it now, glorious, glorious.

    • @smackedinthejaw
      @smackedinthejaw 8 років тому +3

      +Michael Miller wrong, he wears a jumper over chain-mail, over boiled leather, over a padded doublet.

    • @Ezio999Auditore
      @Ezio999Auditore 7 років тому +1

      Quilted armor.

    • @Mystakaphoros
      @Mystakaphoros 7 років тому

      *knitted armor

  • @Abraxis86
    @Abraxis86 8 років тому +22

    For the nets, I wonder if it could be effective to give to the 4th or 5th ranks to throw over their friends just after a direct engagement. This way the enemy is too committed in the melee to swat them out of the air. Might be mildly effective.
    Anyways, forget nets, Bolas existed, and did the exact same thing with none of the encumbrance and unwieldliness but no one bothered with them either. I think they're just too complicated for so little return in effectiveness even under optimal circumstances. Too gimicky. Like that guy twirling his swords around all fancy-like to just get casually shot down by indiana jones. Simple and direct is often the better approach..

    • @janbaer3241
      @janbaer3241 8 років тому +6

      The fifth rank starts twirling nets. As the army is moving, and they are trying to keep up, they end up tangling up the third and forth ranks. A few manage to hurl nets that land on the first rank, twisting into their pole arms.

    • @Boruta46
      @Boruta46 4 роки тому

      Bola used by Inca army is a puzzle - all the awkwardness of a net etc

  • @RamblingRecruiter
    @RamblingRecruiter 4 роки тому +1

    Sounds like a job for the light missile troops such as Alexander's Peltists. They could linger on the flanks and throw nets along with rocks and javelins as opportunities presented themselves.

  • @chinganeer2337
    @chinganeer2337 7 років тому +6

    LOOK AT THIS NET THAT I JUST FOUND

  • @Bent773
    @Bent773 8 років тому +200

    Who needs a net hen you have a pommel?

    • @firewisplet8275
      @firewisplet8275 8 років тому +37

      You can't end your enemy rightly without!

    • @LessSuspect
      @LessSuspect 8 років тому +7

      You should use pommels for the net weights

    • @svenofthejungle
      @svenofthejungle 7 років тому +2

      +Nyxantius Fools. I have a Spandau specially modified to shoot pommels. Ho ho ho!

    • @SpazzMatticusTheGreat
      @SpazzMatticusTheGreat 6 років тому +1

      L' FMR Add baguettes and you get hon hon hon instead.

    • @nixtheclause9984
      @nixtheclause9984 4 роки тому

      What if you have a pommel with a net in it?

  • @CyanideSovereign
    @CyanideSovereign 8 років тому +29

    "A lot of people say to me... 'get out of my garden'"
    Did you get that joke from Michael Redmond, Stewart Lee or Joe fucking Pasquale?

    • @RevRaptor898
      @RevRaptor898 8 років тому +4

      +CyanideSovereign It's a stupidly common joke, likely hundreds of years old. These comedians must be pretty crap if they use it in their routines. Dad jokes are fine for youtubers but professional comedians should never tell them.

    • @eewweeppkk
      @eewweeppkk 8 років тому +2

      +Rev Raptor I disagree.
      There is still humor in old jokes, and its honestly all in the delivery and timing for a joke like that. If you've just set up a story that you're about to tell, quickly say this line, and then shrug it off and continue on with your story, that could easily make it funny. The unoriginality is unexpected, making it funny. It takes up little time in the routine and gets some laughs, what else would you want as a comedian?

    • @andrewplck
      @andrewplck 8 років тому +2

      +CyanideSovereign That one was used well and worked I say.

    • @dylanbailey8464
      @dylanbailey8464 8 років тому

      +CyanideSovereign Calm down, its still funny to a lot of people.

    • @CyanideSovereign
      @CyanideSovereign 8 років тому

      +Dylan Bailey
      I didn't mean anything bad by it, just acknowlaging a reference I thought he made.

  • @fernandotills
    @fernandotills 4 роки тому +3

    That intro. Wasn’t expecting that. 😂

  • @lukehamilton3518
    @lukehamilton3518 3 роки тому

    If I was in a battle I'd want this dude on our side. General Lindybeige! There's a man in who's orders I could be confident.

  • @HurFordMeat
    @HurFordMeat 8 років тому +24

    Could you talk more about gladiators sometime? This video is great by the way, thanks! :)

  • @MadHatter42
    @MadHatter42 8 років тому +19

    *Scoff* If nets are so easy to get out of, how do you explain how Scooby Doo caught so many bad guys? That stuff is lethal, man!

  • @eendenmannetje
    @eendenmannetje 7 років тому

    This may be the fifth time I'm watching this video by now, and that intro gets me every time!

  • @FokkeWulfe
    @FokkeWulfe 3 роки тому

    Not to argue with Llyod, but I can think of a few ways to (possibly) make nets work in ancient battle.
    1: a net team. The Thrower, and the Shield pair. The Shield protects the Thrower, the Thrower, big strong, perhaps even a fisherman, or trained by fishermen. The Thrower throws a net, and he and Shield hit the deck, crouched behind the shield. Immediate thrown attack is followed, with the front line of the enemy loosing cohesion. The front line, being the most skilled soldiers, takes sudden heavy losses, and you have a rout on your hands.
    2: perhaps the net could be thrown by an engine, a ballista, or a catapult of some kind. A heavy ish weight in the middle could aide in flight, but when the net hits someone or the ground, the net opens, engulfing a section of men.
    3: unit cohesion when crossing ground is paramount. Thrown nets, with hooks, or bits that grab, could be thrown on the ground ahead of an army. This would mean advancing enemy troops have to cross this ground, and maybe get tangled up, or have to spend time working through/clearing the netting.Now, you'll be sat there thinking "but then you cut off advancement for your men." Maybe not. Being that they are nets, if a properly equipped team is on hand, they could theoretically, clear the nets quickly by simply grabbing and pulling, maybe with a long hook from inside the shield wall. The technique would likely be used primarily by a defending force, able to simply sit and wait.
    They may not be great ideas, but I just wanted to work out a few, maybe possible, ways nets could be effectively used in a battle scenario.

  • @Balakul
    @Balakul 8 років тому +31

    If you're a movie director pleas skip to 2:00 so you don't get anny funny ideas.

    • @SpySappingMyKeyboard
      @SpySappingMyKeyboard 8 років тому +11

      +Crobat Annoying Pokemon Sorry, I only had 2 minutes to watch this video. I have a very schedule making this documentary about using nets in battle you know!

    • @AlexVangelion
      @AlexVangelion 8 років тому

      Yes, a tiny net is a death sentence. It is a net and it is tiny.

  • @Dcook85
    @Dcook85 8 років тому +9

    The only application i could see for a net would be in a trap and ambush style situation in which a small unit walks under an overhang of some type and the large net could be dropped onto them and then ambush units rush in to take them out. But that's pretty narrow and specific. I agree that it's mostly a useless item in combat.

  • @magnussamuelsson2630
    @magnussamuelsson2630 3 роки тому

    I love this guy saying "haha"... I have heard him doing it a few times in other videos and it is always such a awesome thiing to hear.

  • @gloriahoulihan8717
    @gloriahoulihan8717 10 місяців тому

    I love the theme tune to Gladiators.

  • @woodslore8537
    @woodslore8537 8 років тому +19

    I ask this, mostly out of the comical image it brings to mind, weighted nets fired from catapults?

    • @saltofpetra-4502
      @saltofpetra-4502 8 років тому +6

      +Woods Lore
      Rather than boulders, bags of rocks, or corpses? Dunno, accuracy, range, cost?

    • @conductiv7113
      @conductiv7113 8 років тому +3

      +Saltofpetra - all of them, including actual impact on the enemy (complete loss of any meaningful structural damage) and rate of fire as loading a net to actually unfold takes more time then simply dropping in a corpse or rock(bag)

    • @nick012000
      @nick012000 8 років тому +3

      +conductiv You're not trying to do structural damage if you're shooting artillery at infantrymen...

    • @FirefoxisredExplorerisblueGoog
      @FirefoxisredExplorerisblueGoog 8 років тому

      +Woods Lore Why ensnare an enemy with a net when you can crush him into an early grave with a boulder?

    • @AudieHolland
      @AudieHolland 8 років тому

      +Woods Lore Catapults were siege weapons, not much use in the field. Because the enemy might not want to cooperate and simply run away or around. A besieged fortress of city cannot run away or outflank a catapult.

  • @Randomstuffs261
    @Randomstuffs261 8 років тому +16

    *I hope Lloyd does a video on Pith helmets, the sexy kind they used in the movie Zulu*

    • @Derederi
      @Derederi 8 років тому

      +Randomstuffs261 That would be interesting!

  • @SimicFishCrab
    @SimicFishCrab 4 роки тому +1

    hey Lindy, I have question similar to this one. Why didn't samurais ever use shields or at least are never portrayed with shields?

  • @sannylad9204
    @sannylad9204 6 років тому +6

    "Oyy! You! Get out of my garden!"

  • @imstupid880
    @imstupid880 8 років тому +13

    WHY DID YOU POST THIS ON APRIL 1ST
    WHAT DO I BELIEVE

  • @h0lx
    @h0lx 8 років тому +11

    Why did I find this channel only lately? Interesting and very entertaining!

  • @jimvargaco.6344
    @jimvargaco.6344 6 років тому

    Best lindybeige opening

  • @theanarkiddie4569
    @theanarkiddie4569 4 роки тому +1

    Hey I wanted to ask about artillery, could they fire nets? I get that it’s heavy, but proposing some form of very small capatapult armed by just one or two men can fire a net say 30m, could that do anything. I get that firing rocks with those catapults may be far more effective, and also making any form of artillery is remarkably expensive, but even so I think that small scale mechanisms might stand a chance at flinging a net high above that can then trap someone on the front lines. Personally I would go for setting my nets on fire and then flinging them with a catapult because it must be terrifying to be a warrior and see this flaming arc come down towards you, that unlike a fire arrow you can’t just block with a shield

  • @maciek19882
    @maciek19882 8 років тому +320

    Mongol horse warrioirs used lassos

    • @lindybeige
      @lindybeige  8 років тому +132

      +Zdzisław Dziąsło Some did, yes, but not to tangle up large number of enemy. It's rather a different thing.

    • @kam2150
      @kam2150 8 років тому +100

      +Zdzisław Dziąsło Lassos is different because it is much smaller then net, more wieldy and easier to capture a knight. They also wouldn't throw their lassos in the beggining of battle, rather later on to capture some valuable prissoners like knights, since one knight was worth a lot more ransom then dozens of regular soldiers.

    • @ja-vishaara
      @ja-vishaara 8 років тому +38

      +Zdzisław Dziąsło Lasso =/= big ass net

    • @jsmithnevinsky
      @jsmithnevinsky 8 років тому +6

      Fail.

    • @KarthanRouge
      @KarthanRouge 8 років тому +2

      L

  • @fakjbf3129
    @fakjbf3129 8 років тому +4

    One thing Rome 2 did with the gladiators is make them super soft. Pretty much the only thing you could do was throw them at the enemy and either the shock value of the charge would break the enemy or they would be held up long enough for actual units to get there. In actual combat the gladiators would drop like flies, mostly because they had armor everywhere except for their vitals. They were pretty useless most of the time and a colossal waste of money, so on that front it was decently accurate.

  • @ButterSwagBag
    @ButterSwagBag 4 роки тому

    What if you had large group of cavlry charge down the flanks if the enemy with a giant net string between them. Then the net clashes with the enemies front lines and trips them all up.

  • @anniebot_45-73
    @anniebot_45-73 6 років тому

    that joke at the start deserves a thumb up on its own. if you were my history teacher, i would have never slept through the class (as opposed to always)

  • @hamishwoodland7424
    @hamishwoodland7424 8 років тому +26

    Excellent vid as always Lloyd, I was wondering if you would do a cheap April fools and tell us about all of the ancient net throwing platoons. (I have to say, I prefer this)

    • @xxOmponxx
      @xxOmponxx 8 років тому +1

      From what I've heard, In Britain, if you do an April Fool's joke after 12:00 GMT, you are considered an April Fool. He would have had to have the video uploaded before then to fit with cultural norms.

  • @xenophon5354
    @xenophon5354 8 років тому +27

    Could you do a video on gladiators? The most popular types, death rate, etc?

    • @Gstrangeman96
      @Gstrangeman96 8 років тому

      +Tom Rundell Check out Metatron's video on the same topic.

    • @MLCAgaming
      @MLCAgaming 8 років тому

      +Tom Rundell just watch the movie Gladiator it's pretty much perfect accurate :)

    • @Gstrangeman96
      @Gstrangeman96 8 років тому

      Fenriz the Jester You're supposed to watch/listen for the quality and value of the historical information, not because the tone of the voice turns you on.

    • @literallyme6214
      @literallyme6214 8 років тому

      why would you fake a british accent? He is italian and i think he said that in one of his videos

    • @alexkfridges
      @alexkfridges 8 років тому

      +Tom Rundell YES PLEASE

  • @luciousbrun5437
    @luciousbrun5437 5 років тому

    I am so lucky you posted this. I was just about to order my equipment for my first century war I was going to commence on the whole Earth. I'll cross nets off ! Ta !

  • @ohividy2093
    @ohividy2093 5 років тому

    Could you have a really long net strung between two cavalry units to capture a small group of soldiers? Very impractical I know but is it feasible?

  • @ksolopolo5267
    @ksolopolo5267 8 років тому +41

    OI! YOU! GET OUT OF MY GARDEN!

  • @Mikey__R
    @Mikey__R 8 років тому +15

    Easy - modified siege weapons working in tandem, throwing large rocks with chain linked nets between them, with lots of spiky bits nailed to the chain links for maximum carnage.
    Granted, that sounds more like Warhammer than history.

    • @CaptainBipto
      @CaptainBipto 8 років тому +1

      +Mikey R Have a type of balista with bolts that fire a net between them. Have barbs on them, so they hook on clothing. You can cover them with pitch, so you can follow up with fire arrows. Or if your feeling nasty, cover them with a contact poison or exrement. Even if it doesnt hit a formation, you can put that in the way, so you either take your chances and walk over it. Or break formations, and have them walk around them.

    • @Mikey__R
      @Mikey__R 8 років тому +2

      CaptainBipto
      With the siege catapults, I was thinking that the weight of the stones would be spread across the width of the net, meaning all of that momentum would cut a swath through a formation, rather than just taking one or two men from each rank it would take a dozen or so, each time the stones grazed. With large enough engines, it would be a truly fearsome deterrent.
      Balista bolts would be less massive than a siege engines stone, so you wouldn't get such a big bang for your grazing buck.
      And Im not sure excrement would be much of a deterrent, half the guys advancing will have soiled their armoured pants already! :p

    • @CaptainBipto
      @CaptainBipto 8 років тому

      Mikey R Something like the cannon chain shot? I would still go for barbs and hooks on the net. Even if you did survive the net going through your formation. You would still suffer injuries, be impaled, stuck and unable to get yourself untangled from the net.
      Plus the psychological impact or being helpless, and stuck among the dead and dying. Knowing that the enemy is either going to follow up with a volley of artillery and arrows. Or marching up to slaughter you while you lay helpless.

    • @CaptainBipto
      @CaptainBipto 8 років тому

      Mikey R I was thinking of excrement, poison, infected animal and peoples bodily fluids. If an army retreats from battle, then you get attrition from poisons and infections.
      Not as a deterent as such, but if the enemy has encountered them before there might be a psychological impact. Oh shit I dont want to die horribly if we win. So I'm going to avoid that net.
      If you played Warhammer Fantasy, think of a Skaven Clan Pestilens type approach.

  • @Dinoenthusiastguy
    @Dinoenthusiastguy 5 років тому +4

    2:10 Lindybeige as a retiarius

  • @David-Dash-IBA
    @David-Dash-IBA 3 роки тому

    If you want to use an ensnaring weapon, use a bola. Smaller, easier to store, easier to throw, and you might be able to use it as sling ammo. It can ensnare, or straight up harm.

  • @MilitantOldLady
    @MilitantOldLady 8 років тому +10

    Someone's been playing Total War: Rome II

  • @morallyambiguousnet
    @morallyambiguousnet 8 років тому +4

    To cast a net effectively, it would likely take some sort of siege engine. If you're going to do that and trap a bunch of the enemy, then you might as well just fire a pointy stick or rock, and kill them outright.
    The gorillas worked out how to cast a net from a horse; it takes two.

  • @nates9536
    @nates9536 5 років тому

    I'm imagining a larger dual ballista with a net strung between the bolts, able to be fired over your own ranks

  • @thomasevans5467
    @thomasevans5467 3 місяці тому

    As I myself have personal experience with trellis netting for horticultural purposes. I have injured MYSELF with that nasty stuff now I know that the Roman’s did not have plastic but the did have like fine cordage and like you said fishing hooks. I personally think that this weapons possibilities have been very underestimated.

  • @MasterTaters
    @MasterTaters 8 років тому +7

    In rome total war, there is a retiarius elite unit you can recruit, goes about how you said.