Justin Y. "Math rock" has always been a wierd genre label to me. Theres a lot of bands you could consider "math rock" but anyone who calls out "trout mask replica" MUST know what theyre talking about. Good call dude!
Big fan of Math Rock. Here's 5 albums from non-english speaking countries (mainly Japan tbh) that you might be interested in if you're just getting into Math Rock: 'Unutella' by Nuito, 'T H E' by tricot, 'Angle' by Elephant Gym, 'Cubic' by LITE, and my personal favourite 'For Long Tomorrow' by toe.
finally someone mentioned toe ! do you know any other bands like toe, cus man i love them. I’ve heard every other band you mentioned, but they just don’t give me that same vibe toe does if you get me ? Sorry i’m 4 years late 💀
Soundgardens ‘Superunknown’ album has some crazy time signatures throughout this belter of an album with all timings masterfully executed - seamlessly switching timings within songs. A must-listen album indeed! Your channel is excellent by the way👍 You could be earning big bucks column writing for publications easily!
Great list, very happy to see Don Caballero, Hella and Tera Melos on here. I'll be sure to check out Piglet. I've never heard of them and after all, that's one reason for me to watch your videos, to find new music. One of my personal favourites is Giraffes? Giraffes!' album More Skin With Milk-Mouth. I really like the mixture of these incredibly fast and chaotic parts and the calm, melodic, almost post-rock-ish parts. Their subsequent releases didn't do much for me, but this one I still go back to on a regular basis.
Yeah definitely check out Piglet, if you like the rest of the list I'm pretty confident you'll love them. Giraffes? Giraffes! are one I need to give another go - I've only heard Pink Magick and wasn't a huge fan, but I'll give More Skin With Milk-Mouth a spin
So a friend just sent me a link to this after a conversation we just had the other night. I’m so happy you included Piglet. I’m not familiar with pavlo but the rest of the bands are pretty spot on in this list but man Piglet has always stood out to me and I just lucky and was introduced to them about the time lava land came out. After seeing the videos of them playing a house party popped up on UA-cam it’s pretty obvious these kids were like fresh out of high school. It’s like they popped up and put out probably my favorite album of this genre and then were just gone. I may have not dig deep enough but I wasn’t able to find anything these kids did afterwards which blows my mind considering how insanely good they were. I love that album so much and it’s one of those you can lay on people that aren’t into the math stuff and they can still love and appreciate the album. The one other you didn’t mention that I hold close to the heart is cinemachanica. Those guys are super talented and super nice guys that I’ve had a lot of fun with.
Have you listened to the newest EP from Piglet? So good! I actually like it much more than Lava Land. Polvo is also one of my favorites, I’d recommend their album “In Prism.” If you like the fun, playful and sometimes chill sounds of Piglet then I’d recommend checking out COVET and Mice Parade!
Vercingétorix Covet is amazing, and this is coming from a metalhead. Never thought i could love something that happy sounding, being used to listening to dark noises :')
THA bombaa Im a metal head to Covet took me here. Im a guitar player and i just discovered math rock. Im digging it a lot...almost more than metal. If you like "happy" metal listen to older in flames.
@@deepcuts I have one, do it if you want. And updated list of Math Rock Albums, not ones to get you into it perhaps, but like your top 5 new Math Rock albums.
I'm very happy to see Tera Melos record here, really love them. I don't think this record could be used as an introduction to math rock, but I was really curious to hear what you would say about TTNG's Animals. I've been binge watching your channel ever since I discovered it and it's awesome, man, really great work!
great picks, I do consider Foals' Antidotes a math rock essential though. especially because it really got me into math rock. it's probably a little more easily accessible than most of your picks imo
I would highly recommend Feed Me Jack’s album Chumpfrey. While not the strictest math rock band this album is fused with jazz and a little pop and is probably my favorite album. The songs Until then, Jelly the Queen, and Promiscuity are really good if you’re just looking for a quick listen
Very good selection. I would have put faraquet instead of tera melos, but that is just my,personnal taste and experience with math rock...people might argue if faraquet can even be catalogued as math rock.....
A great record, I wish the guys had gone on to release more. When I get around to my post hardcore video they'll probably have a shoe in (arguably as much math as they are post hardcore)
Medications is pretty damn great as well. It's two former members of Faraquet. David (singer/guitarist) was also the Drummer for the DC band Smart Went Crazy. Their last album is so good, but also really bitter as it was recorded while the band was falling apart. Underrated. In general I like math rock but sometimes it gets a bit too cerebral for my taste, I tend to prefer bands who extensively use math-rock elements but without it being too much in the foreground. Stuff like Drive Like Jehu (one of my all time favorites, but I guess it's closer to post-hardcore than mathrock), Deerhoof, etc. Especially with Drive Like Jehu I think the balance is perfect. The math parts make the songs more interesting, builds tension (some of the songs are quite long, Do You Compute, In Lau), keeps you on edge when needed, but it doesn't overshadow the emotional core of the music. Once again, a great vid.
Thanks for the recommendation. I'll check it out. Bitter indeed can be great sometimes. The 2nd/final album from screamo band You And I also recorded while falling apart and I think it amplified the intensity in a good way.
@@nefyt278 uh yeah it is. it has a rich history spanning from the Washington DC hardcore punk scene, spreading out to middle America in the 90s and gaining influence from indie and alternative rock with emotional lyrics. how is that not a subgenre?
I HIGHLY recommend checking out COVET, Toe and Mice Parade! They are all quite mathy but they still have their own unique styles and you can tell it’s not about the counting but rather the feel! In my opinion these three unmentioned bands are all outstandingly good!
It's just delightful to see that in today's time, there's still people taking the time to speak eloquently about things they know a lot about. Thank you.
Hi! I'm pretty new to your channel and I've watched several of your videos now. I've heard and enjoyed many of the albums you've featured in your videos but I'm a lot more interested in the albums that are new to me. I appreciate how passionate and eloquent you are in introducing and explaining the histories of so many different genres of music. Yet you don't look down on those who may not be as familiar with these artists as you are; you're just excited to share the music you love! Thanks so much! Now to familiarize myself with Math Rock.
Another great video about an under-appreciated genre. My list is a little older and conventional: 1 - Slint - Spiderlands (arguable proto-post-rock/post-hardcore) 2 - Shellac - 1000 Hurts 3 - Don Cab - What Burns Never Returns 4 - June of 44 - Four Great Points 5 - Unwound - The Future of What/Repetition
Nice video and good list but I find that Exploded Drawing is a much better Polvo album. Fast Canoe is such a brilliant song as well as the final closing song. truly an amazing effort Active Lifestyles hasnt really appealed to me since it doesn't seem to deliver the same amount of passion as Exploded Drawing
I can remember listening to Hella when that album dropped in college, I didn't get it then but 20 years later I checked back on it and man it makes more sense now. Good list.
Though I do believe that album is pretty iconic and has inspired a lot of contemporary math rock bands, I don't think it stands up to the five I went for in the end. Just my personal opinion though!
Not sure I agree with these picks, yeah they’re all classics of the genre but outside of piglet, I’m not sure I would recommend these to newcomers. My picks would be: TTNG - Animals Standards - Standards Invalids - Fulfillment (or their upcoming album in all likelihood) Covet - Effloresce Chon - Chon Maybe some people wouldn’t consider these all pure math rock, but I guess I would just disagree with them. Delta Sleep’s stuff is an honorable mention.
Well done production, cool list and not annoying narrator - very rare on UA-cam these days. You've just earned my sub. Keep it up and hello from Russia!
godstomper it was kind of proto-math rock: one of the most influential albums for the genre, but in terms of pure math rock, these albums and other late 90s to early naughts records are the apex
Maybe Slint is to math rock what the Stooges were to punk, what the Germs were to hardcore- arguably the first shot, the "proto" version, a necessary first step, without them nobody else would have made it to the next... but not quite there yet.
Thank you for introducing me to my kimono. That is one of the sweetest and most mystifying pieces of music I have ever heard. Ed. Was just about to say death grips seems like an embodiment of the math rock ethos and then Zach Hill popped up. Kudos.
Don Caballero's drummer, Damon Che, was a big fan of SCTV at the time of their formation. Joe Flaherty's character Guy Caballero, who portrayed the station manager on the show, inspired the band name. That should help with the pronunciation.
To add to this explanation, the character, Don Caballero’s name was intentionally mispronounced, because in Spanish, “Don Caballero” literally means “Mr. Gentleman”. 😂
respect you for putting Hold Your Horse Is on this list, and Polvo too. The only thing i disagree is that i'd pick American Don instead of What Burns Never Returns. For me, American Don is one of the best records of all time.
I understand this is a 5 Album list. Great mentions! I would love to include some others, myself. I love Cinemechanica, Drive Like Jehu, Hot Snakes, Shorty, US Maple, If Lucy Fell, Upsilon Acrux, The Dillinger Escape Plan, Vessels, Colossamite, etc. Oh yeah. Frank Zappa. The KING of Time Signature changes! xoxox
And So I Watch You From Afar...absolutely insane and fabulous math rock, truly beautiful and wonderful, joyously delirious and complete funfest, they take you along on clouds of bliss...
I love your top 5 albums series. I would also love to see a top 5 experimental records. Although "experimental" is a vague term, I'm still sure you can find strange albums like Animal collective's strawberry jam or halfaxa from grimes, which are both good and identifiably experimental. Also, you have top-notch quality in every video you've made so far, I hope you can be as big as other music critics like spectrum pulse or even needle drop (both great channels btw, you should check them out).
Thanks a lot Tawfiq! Man 'experimental' is a minefield huh - I definitely will be exploring more experimental music as the channel progresses, but I would want to dedicate more than one video on it since there are so many different types of experimental music. I know Mark and Anthony's work very well, top reviewers!
I've been living under a rock until two years ago and having noticed that music has such a vast branch of genres/sub-genres. I'm genuinely happy with my taste in music now but the older albums (older releases) that I listen to now lack a nostalgic feel to them which kinda sucks lel, nonetheless still happy to have finally discovered someone who can rush me up with the basics, put things into place and get me a few recommendation while I'm at it.
I didn’t know what Math Rock was though I’ve heard the name thrown around a lot. Then you mention Don Cab and I sat straight up. “Oh! I like Math Rock?!” I had no idea.
I'm not much into Polvo, but the rest is exactly where it's at. Strongly recommend checking out Grape Blueprints Pour Spinach Olive Grape by Dilute. A short lived band from the same era, a hidden gem, much like Piglet.
Chardee MacDennis Patagonian Rats doesn't get enough love. it is fucking brilliant. untitled is what made me fell in love with them. Drugs is a great shorter listen.
Jeffrey Speciale Imo Patagonian Rats is their weakest album (though Nick's guitar work is probably at his best). How they mixed of technical playing with catchy pop just didn't work for me. I think X'ed Out did it perfectly, and so did Untitled and Drugs but they got to grow on you to get that melodic satisfaction.
Brandon Vu Patagonian has a couple tracks I dont care for (Westham United, In Citrus Heights) but that album houses some of the most instrumentally mature and incredible work imo. Tracks like Party with Gina, Trident Tail, Aped, A New Uniform/Patagonia are all insanely well written and dont get me started on Clardy's drum work on that record. Dude is a monster
I just discovered your channel and really like it. A video for classic electronic music (60s - 80s) would be great. I'm looking forward for your next video!
Thanks for watching Diego, I'll definitely delve more into early electronic music in the future, in the meantime check out my ambient video, might be up your street!
deep_cuts, you are amazing! if i was starting mtv, i'd start with you. i would be very interested in some teardowns of early blues stuff. good luck man.
didnt particularly like twin galaxies (though i should probably relisten) but im absolutely obsessed with ghost city its literally one of my favorite albums ever
Interesting picks and well thought out vid. The case for Polvo is always a hard one to make but appreciate the inclusion as they often get overlooked. Just wanted to point out that Ian Williams (-son) was not a founding member of Don Cab.. as Damon Che loves to point to with his continued use of the band name after Ian and Eric Emm left. Will be checking out your other vids for sure.
Hi Shaun, thanks for watching! Yeah I don't know why I got Ian's name wrong, stumbled over it then blurted it our incorrectly, good work on my part! I didn't say he founded Don Cab though, I said he went on later to found Battles.
I have recently got into this music big time and I can't listen to anything else. Most music in mainstream sounds like nursery rhymes now! Arctangent Festival did it for me. Love this informative video and I am listening to all the suggested bands.
I'm always looking for new Math Rock but some how missed Tera Melos, thanks for that! if you haven't heard them: Chicago's Into the Light Carol Anne is pretty epic as are St. Louis's Pat Sajak Assassins and Yowie.
I would greatly recommend ‘Trout Mask Replica’ The album is probably the earliest example of Math Rock (1969) and is a total classic, a masterpiece. I’m really surprised it’s not on this list.
Just discovered your channel. The quality, production and information in your videos is absolutely phenomonal. You deserve 500 times more subs than you have, and I plan to stick around til you get there!
Hey Great video! Could you do a video on Mathcore? I’m super into Dillinger Escape Plan but finding bands like them is difficult! Botch and early converge are probably the closest I have come
LOvin the channel and the format! Excellent extension of the almost dead alternative radio. Come on my son, John Peel this channel, and the playlists until we get you into the bbc! :)
Great choices given the million you could choose from. A long time fan of all, especially the Don Cab and Piglet. Even though it's DC Emo, I might have included Kerosene 454's Came By to Kill Me or Shiner's Lula Divinia (I always loved the transition between Sideways and Pinned). On the more difficult side there is U.S. Maple, and for very early MR check out Captain Beefheart's song "Veteran's Day Poppy" from Trout Mask Replica. Great job.
Thanks Craig! I'll probably do a midwest/DC Emo video at some point, because there are a slew of great bands that aren't math enough for this video but fit perfectly into that - Rites of Spring, Cap'n Jazz, American Football etc. I haven't heard Kerosene 454, off to do that right now!
deep cuts Yeah, they kinda sound like Jawbox but more instrumental sections. Yes, there are so many directions to go, with rarer ones like Hurl, Roadside Monument, or trendier ones like Slint , Braid, Promise Ring, and the Kinsella brothers' stuff, all equally great. Thanks for your podcast giving me memories of old and I want to check out the ones you did on areas that I'm less familiar.
The lighting made me feel like you were talking to me on a date. I'm not complaining.
haha I imagine doing in depth genre talks AT someone might be a date mood-killer though
idk man... If a girl started talking to me about good music on a date I'd be hella down
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"Irrational time signatures"
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"Holy shit dude this section in pi/e is so heavy"
*slow claps*
Somewhere a heavily inebriated drummer has actually played this.
look up Conlon Nancarrow's music lol
Irrational from a music perspective, not about maths hahaha
I wonder how a musical piece written in Pi/E would sound as impossible as making a piece like that may be.
it looks like there is a face in your throat trying to push its way out
LORD TUNA hahaha
Lol I'm dead. :D
LORD TUNA cursed comment
YOU CAN'T UNSEE IT XD
It’s his real voice
video not even in 420/69 time signature, smh.
Trout Mask Replica is my favourite math rock record
Justin Y. Good god Justin.... What on earth are you doing here
you have good taste in music
Justin Y. "Math rock" has always been a wierd genre label to me. Theres a lot of bands you could consider "math rock" but anyone who calls out "trout mask replica" MUST know what theyre talking about. Good call dude!
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This video got me into math rock
It’s one of my favorite genres now
Thank you Oliver 💙
Is that DT on your pf pic? Noice
Big fan of Math Rock. Here's 5 albums from non-english speaking countries (mainly Japan tbh) that you might be interested in if you're just getting into Math Rock: 'Unutella' by Nuito, 'T H E' by tricot, 'Angle' by Elephant Gym, 'Cubic' by LITE, and my personal favourite 'For Long Tomorrow' by toe.
finally someone mentioned toe ! do you know any other bands like toe, cus man i love them. I’ve heard every other band you mentioned, but they just don’t give me that same vibe toe does if you get me ? Sorry i’m 4 years late 💀
Soundgardens ‘Superunknown’ album has some crazy time signatures throughout this belter of an album with all timings masterfully executed - seamlessly switching timings within songs. A must-listen album indeed! Your channel is excellent by the way👍 You could be earning big bucks column writing for publications easily!
That Hella record is absolutely fantastic! Great video.
YES! Have you heard the Piglet record?
+deep cuts I haven't, actually. I will check it out once i'm done listening to the new Nick Cave, thanks.
if you like hella highly recommend the ladies its another side project from zach hill
Polvo and Don Caballero two of the best bands ever.
Great list, very happy to see Don Caballero, Hella and Tera Melos on here. I'll be sure to check out Piglet. I've never heard of them and after all, that's one reason for me to watch your videos, to find new music.
One of my personal favourites is Giraffes? Giraffes!' album More Skin With Milk-Mouth. I really like the mixture of these incredibly fast and chaotic parts and the calm, melodic, almost post-rock-ish parts. Their subsequent releases didn't do much for me, but this one I still go back to on a regular basis.
Piglet is one of my all time favorites. Hope you dig them
Yeah definitely check out Piglet, if you like the rest of the list I'm pretty confident you'll love them.
Giraffes? Giraffes! are one I need to give another go - I've only heard Pink Magick and wasn't a huge fan, but I'll give More Skin With Milk-Mouth a spin
So a friend just sent me a link to this after a conversation we just had the other night. I’m so happy you included Piglet. I’m not familiar with pavlo but the rest of the bands are pretty spot on in this list but man Piglet has always stood out to me and I just lucky and was introduced to them about the time lava land came out. After seeing the videos of them playing a house party popped up on UA-cam it’s pretty obvious these kids were like fresh out of high school. It’s like they popped up and put out probably my favorite album of this genre and then were just gone. I may have not dig deep enough but I wasn’t able to find anything these kids did afterwards which blows my mind considering how insanely good they were. I love that album so much and it’s one of those you can lay on people that aren’t into the math stuff and they can still love and appreciate the album. The one other you didn’t mention that I hold close to the heart is cinemachanica. Those guys are super talented and super nice guys that I’ve had a lot of fun with.
Have you listened to the newest EP from Piglet? So good! I actually like it much more than Lava Land. Polvo is also one of my favorites, I’d recommend their album “In Prism.” If you like the fun, playful and sometimes chill sounds of Piglet then I’d recommend checking out COVET and Mice Parade!
Yvette Young's band Covet is awesome Math Rock, not so mathy but pretty chill.
Vercingétorix Covet is amazing, and this is coming from a metalhead. Never thought i could love something that happy sounding, being used to listening to dark noises :')
THA bombaa Im a metal head to Covet took me here. Im a guitar player and i just discovered math rock. Im digging it a lot...almost more than metal. If you like "happy" metal listen to older in flames.
Covet is actually very mathy
I like Covet. CHON is pretty great as well.
If covet isn't mathy, what genre is it closer to? It's my favourite record and I wanna find more
We've Been Talking by Enemies is an excellent instrumental math rock albums for beginners imo, very chill and easygoing
too bad they broke up recently. their last album is great too.
Agreed. Backaches and Cardigans take you on another level honestly
Guide to The Mars Volta would be amazing.
maybe to all cedric + omar projects, cuz there's like 4 of those iirc
Honestly you're doing an awesome job with this channel. Keep up the good work
Thanks I really appreciate that! Any suggestions for future content you want to see just let me know!
@@deepcuts I have one, do it if you want.
And updated list of Math Rock Albums, not ones to get you into it perhaps, but like your top 5 new Math Rock albums.
I'm very happy to see Tera Melos record here, really love them.
I don't think this record could be used as an introduction to math rock, but I was really curious to hear what you would say about TTNG's Animals.
I've been binge watching your channel ever since I discovered it and it's awesome, man, really great work!
My favourite Math Rock album has to be Back In Black by AC/DC. Not very popular but very under appreciated.
great picks, I do consider Foals' Antidotes a math rock essential though. especially because it really got me into math rock. it's probably a little more easily accessible than most of your picks imo
This is my new favorite channel
Maybe 5 albums to get you into no-wave next :)
+Wroxxite thanks a lot, that really means so much! No wave is on the cards for sure
Math rock is my thing. I recomend everyone litens to "tractor hips", you'll love it. By the way, polvo is my favorite band ever
I would highly recommend Feed Me Jack’s album Chumpfrey. While not the strictest math rock band this album is fused with jazz and a little pop and is probably my favorite album. The songs Until then, Jelly the Queen, and Promiscuity are really good if you’re just looking for a quick listen
Very good selection. I would have put faraquet instead of tera melos, but that is just my,personnal taste and experience with math rock...people might argue if faraquet can even be catalogued as math rock.....
I love Farquet! I honestly never thought of them as Math Rock, but I think the label makes sense
Have you listened to 'The View from this Tower' by Faraquet? I think it's an underrated Math Rock album and an underrated Dischord band.
A great record, I wish the guys had gone on to release more. When I get around to my post hardcore video they'll probably have a shoe in (arguably as much math as they are post hardcore)
Medications is pretty damn great as well. It's two former members of Faraquet. David (singer/guitarist) was also the Drummer for the DC band Smart Went Crazy. Their last album is so good, but also really bitter as it was recorded while the band was falling apart. Underrated.
In general I like math rock but sometimes it gets a bit too cerebral for my taste, I tend to prefer bands who extensively use math-rock elements but without it being too much in the foreground. Stuff like Drive Like Jehu (one of my all time favorites, but I guess it's closer to post-hardcore than mathrock), Deerhoof, etc. Especially with Drive Like Jehu I think the balance is perfect. The math parts make the songs more interesting, builds tension (some of the songs are quite long, Do You Compute, In Lau), keeps you on edge when needed, but it doesn't overshadow the emotional core of the music.
Once again, a great vid.
I look forward to the video. I love Post-Hardcore.
Thanks for the recommendation. I'll check it out. Bitter indeed can be great sometimes. The 2nd/final album from screamo band You And I also recorded while falling apart and I think it amplified the intensity in a good way.
Np, just don't expect normal post-hardcore, Smart Went Crazy is a bit hard to place for me genre wise.
It would be sick to see a top 5 emo albums and maybe even a separate one for Midwest emo
Emo isn't an actual subgenre or genre
@@nefyt278 uh yeah it is. it has a rich history spanning from the Washington DC hardcore punk scene, spreading out to middle America in the 90s and gaining influence from indie and alternative rock with emotional lyrics. how is that not a subgenre?
@@nefyt278it literally is
love math rock!
solid video. well spoken and in depth. quite impressed
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so happy to see Don Caballero on this list...can't remember how i discovered them but man...what a ride!!! haven't heard a bad song by them...
I HIGHLY recommend checking out COVET, Toe and Mice Parade! They are all quite mathy but they still have their own unique styles and you can tell it’s not about the counting but rather the feel! In my opinion these three unmentioned bands are all outstandingly good!
It's just delightful to see that in today's time, there's still people taking the time to speak eloquently about things they know a lot about.
Thank you.
Your choices give away that you're a drummer. Nice picks, don't see Lavaland cited often, it was actually my first math rock experience.
how about and so i watch you from afar? great video by the way and i love your channel, inspires me to start my own music channel/blog
For me the album that got me into math rock was gloss drop by battles. Such a fun and interesting record. Very unique too
Hi! I'm pretty new to your channel and I've watched several of your videos now. I've heard and enjoyed many of the albums you've featured in your videos but I'm a lot more interested in the albums that are new to me. I appreciate how passionate and eloquent you are in introducing and explaining the histories of so many different genres of music. Yet you don't look down on those who may not be as familiar with these artists as you are; you're just excited to share the music you love! Thanks so much! Now to familiarize myself with Math Rock.
Another great video about an under-appreciated genre. My list is a little older and conventional:
1 - Slint - Spiderlands (arguable proto-post-rock/post-hardcore)
2 - Shellac - 1000 Hurts
3 - Don Cab - What Burns Never Returns
4 - June of 44 - Four Great Points
5 - Unwound - The Future of What/Repetition
Nice video and good list but I find that Exploded Drawing is a much better Polvo album. Fast Canoe is such a brilliant song as well as the final closing song. truly an amazing effort
Active Lifestyles hasnt really appealed to me since it doesn't seem to deliver the same amount of passion as Exploded Drawing
That's fair enough, I personally love the raw energy of TAL, but Exploding Drawing is great too.
Have you heard the album 'Emergency and I' by the Dismemberment Plan? Its a lovely math rock/pop record
I haven't, I'll definitely check it out though
did you?
loudbill one of the few album I’ll give a perfect 10/10
Dismemberment plan isn't super math y .. but a great record nonetheless.
Great math elements blended into a bright lushous pop record. One of my favourite LPs from the era definitely.
I can remember listening to Hella when that album dropped in college, I didn't get it then but 20 years later I checked back on it and man it makes more sense now. Good list.
1.Chon
2.Tricot
3.Covet
4.americ anfootball
5.Tiny Moving parts
I really love how enthusiastically you talk about the music. It really makes me want to check any album out you talk about!
surprised TTNG - Animals isn't on this list, defo an iconic math rock album for me
Though I do believe that album is pretty iconic and has inspired a lot of contemporary math rock bands, I don't think it stands up to the five I went for in the end. Just my personal opinion though!
Not sure I agree with these picks, yeah they’re all classics of the genre but outside of piglet, I’m not sure I would recommend these to newcomers. My picks would be:
TTNG - Animals
Standards - Standards
Invalids - Fulfillment (or their upcoming album in all likelihood)
Covet - Effloresce
Chon - Chon
Maybe some people wouldn’t consider these all pure math rock, but I guess I would just disagree with them. Delta Sleep’s stuff is an honorable mention.
Well done production, cool list and not annoying narrator - very rare on UA-cam these days. You've just earned my sub.
Keep it up and hello from Russia!
Thanks for the sub and welcome to our little community!
spiderland
i know....why the fuck was that album missing?
Could be considered more post rock
godstomper it was kind of proto-math rock: one of the most influential albums for the genre, but in terms of pure math rock, these albums and other late 90s to early naughts records are the apex
Could also be considered Post Hardcore. Can we all just agree that Slint changed music in ways most people still don't appreciate enough?
Maybe Slint is to math rock what the Stooges were to punk, what the Germs were to hardcore- arguably the first shot, the "proto" version, a necessary first step, without them nobody else would have made it to the next... but not quite there yet.
Thank you for introducing me to my kimono. That is one of the sweetest and most mystifying pieces of music I have ever heard.
Ed. Was just about to say death grips seems like an embodiment of the math rock ethos and then Zach Hill popped up. Kudos.
I just bumped into your channel while looking a math rock video. I love what your'e doing, talking about music with knowledge and passion.
"What Burns Never Returns" legit changed my life when I first heard it. I never looked at music the same way again.
Don Caballero's drummer, Damon Che, was a big fan of SCTV at the time of their formation. Joe Flaherty's character Guy Caballero, who portrayed the station manager on the show, inspired the band name. That should help with the pronunciation.
To add to this explanation, the character, Don Caballero’s name was intentionally mispronounced, because in Spanish, “Don Caballero” literally means “Mr. Gentleman”. 😂
Paul Newman Machine Is Not Broken was one of the best records of the genre along with Don Cab What Burns Never Returns
With the amount of math bands out there its wild that you picked my top 5.
Please do this for midwest emo/midwest math rock
Really appreciate this video and the rest of your channel. You're also extremely attractive, so that doesn't hurt either!
respect you for putting Hold Your Horse Is on this list, and Polvo too. The only thing i disagree is that i'd pick American Don instead of What Burns Never Returns. For me, American Don is one of the best records of all time.
This guy knows what he's talking about, great choices man..
would suggest slint - spiderland once you get deep enough into the genre, or if you're already a fan of post rock. it's an absolute essential.
Awesome starter pack, imma listen to all o dem whenever i can! And btw, the "ll" in Caballero is pronounced like the "y" on You, jus so you know heh
I understand this is a 5 Album list. Great mentions! I would love to include some others, myself. I love Cinemechanica, Drive Like Jehu, Hot Snakes, Shorty, US Maple, If Lucy Fell, Upsilon Acrux, The Dillinger Escape Plan, Vessels, Colossamite, etc. Oh yeah. Frank Zappa. The KING of Time Signature changes! xoxox
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it's not really classic math rock imo, feels more like the American football camp of math rock
@@clairebrown4084 yeah but its extremely accessible, an easy in into math rock
@@Mperalta97 agreed
For any Filipinos out there, we got math rock bands as well: *AOUI* (pronounced "ah-wee") and *Sound Architects*
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And So I Watch You From Afar...absolutely insane and fabulous math rock, truly beautiful and wonderful, joyously delirious and complete funfest, they take you along on clouds of bliss...
Please keep doing ur thing on YT, haven't found me a gem like ur channel here in a minute
I love your top 5 albums series. I would also love to see a top 5 experimental records. Although "experimental" is a vague term, I'm still sure you can find strange albums like Animal collective's strawberry jam or halfaxa from grimes, which are both good and identifiably experimental. Also, you have top-notch quality in every video you've made so far, I hope you can be as big as other music critics like spectrum pulse or even needle drop (both great channels btw, you should check them out).
Thanks a lot Tawfiq! Man 'experimental' is a minefield huh - I definitely will be exploring more experimental music as the channel progresses, but I would want to dedicate more than one video on it since there are so many different types of experimental music. I know Mark and Anthony's work very well, top reviewers!
Thanks man I'm really loving math rock because of this
I've been living under a rock until two years ago and having noticed that music has such a vast branch of genres/sub-genres. I'm genuinely happy with my taste in music now but the older albums (older releases) that I listen to now lack a nostalgic feel to them which kinda sucks lel, nonetheless still happy to have finally discovered someone who can rush me up with the basics, put things into place and get me a few recommendation while I'm at it.
Glad to have been useful, if you have any genres you'd like to see soon then make sure you let me know!
finally someone other than my favourite melon head, who is able talk about music in an entertaining way
I didn’t know what Math Rock was though I’ve heard the name thrown around a lot. Then you mention Don Cab and I sat straight up. “Oh! I like Math Rock?!” I had no idea.
Or you could just snort calculus.
I personally like "toe" quite a lot. Was the first math rock band I've ever listened to, back when I had no clue what that even was.
I'm not much into Polvo, but the rest is exactly where it's at. Strongly recommend checking out Grape Blueprints Pour Spinach Olive Grape by Dilute. A short lived band from the same era, a hidden gem, much like Piglet.
try Pretend - Bones in the Soil, Rust in the Oil
what an album
Really nice video ( and series in general) -- loving the Tera Melos album, especially!
Cheers Tim, yeah I think Untitled is probably my favourite TM record. Really enjoyed X'ed Out actually too
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Untitled is, in my opinion, a near perfect album.
It's brilliant isn't it
Brandon Vu i prefer drugs/complex and Patagonian Rats but untitled is still incredible
Chardee MacDennis Patagonian Rats doesn't get enough love. it is fucking brilliant. untitled is what made me fell in love with them. Drugs is a great shorter listen.
Jeffrey Speciale Imo Patagonian Rats is their weakest album (though Nick's guitar work is probably at his best). How they mixed of technical playing with catchy pop just didn't work for me. I think X'ed Out did it perfectly, and so did Untitled and Drugs but they got to grow on you to get that melodic satisfaction.
Brandon Vu Patagonian has a couple tracks I dont care for (Westham United, In Citrus Heights) but that album houses some of the most instrumentally mature and incredible work imo. Tracks like Party with Gina, Trident Tail, Aped, A New Uniform/Patagonia are all insanely well written and dont get me started on Clardy's drum work on that record. Dude is a monster
I just discovered your channel and really like it. A video for classic electronic music (60s - 80s) would be great. I'm looking forward for your next video!
Thanks for watching Diego, I'll definitely delve more into early electronic music in the future, in the meantime check out my ambient video, might be up your street!
deep_cuts, you are amazing! if i was starting mtv, i'd start with you. i would be very interested in some teardowns of early blues stuff. good luck man.
Delta sleep has to be one of the best math rock bands I've ever listened to.
didnt particularly like twin galaxies (though i should probably relisten) but im absolutely obsessed with ghost city its literally one of my favorite albums ever
I'm not deep into the genre or anything, but I quite like The Fall of Troy. I think they can be considered math rock.
Nice... on point. I could'nt agree anymore. Well done!
Interesting picks and well thought out vid. The case for Polvo is always a hard one to make but appreciate the inclusion as they often get overlooked. Just wanted to point out that Ian Williams (-son) was not a founding member of Don Cab.. as Damon Che loves to point to with his continued use of the band name after Ian and Eric Emm left. Will be checking out your other vids for sure.
Hi Shaun, thanks for watching! Yeah I don't know why I got Ian's name wrong, stumbled over it then blurted it our incorrectly, good work on my part! I didn't say he founded Don Cab though, I said he went on later to found Battles.
Another great video. I look forward to your videos every week. Keep up the good work.
+ComeOnBigBum thanks for the words of encouragement! As always, if you have any ideas for videos you'd like to see then let me know!
I have recently got into this music big time and I can't listen to anything else. Most music in mainstream sounds like nursery rhymes now! Arctangent Festival did it for me. Love this informative video and I am listening to all the suggested bands.
Thanks Mary, I heard Arctangent was great this year, unfortunately I couldn't make it :(
Hella is a fantastic band. Too bad they haven't been active recently.
Great albums you featured! I love Don Cab and I love the style of your channel! Subbed.
Glad you like the channel mate, thanks for subscribing!
I'm always looking for new Math Rock but some how missed Tera Melos, thanks for that! if you haven't heard them: Chicago's Into the Light Carol Anne is pretty epic as are St. Louis's Pat Sajak Assassins and Yowie.
Marmozets are an awesome example of a modern math rock band. Amazing debut
Killer content man!! Thx for the playlist 👌
your accent alone is a good reason to be enjoying listening to you
I would greatly recommend ‘Trout Mask Replica’
The album is probably the earliest example of Math Rock (1969) and is a total classic, a masterpiece.
I’m really surprised it’s not on this list.
Or how about Soft Machine?
Just discovered your channel. The quality, production and information in your videos is absolutely phenomonal. You deserve 500 times more subs than you have, and I plan to stick around til you get there!
+Tremolo Joe thank you so much Joe, I still can't really believe how many subs I have at this early stage!
You honestly the album Tapestry'd Life by Pretend should be up here. Or at least Hit Home's After The Fact. Take a listen if you havent
I only heard Tapestry'd Life once, need to take another listen.
Honestly Blood in the Soil, Rust in the Oil is better.
Malcolm Ekman i couldnt thank you enough for leading me to pretend. they are soo fckn awesome
its a matter of taste but id say tapestry'd life is better for getting people into math which is what this video is about so....
totally agree
The band Talons might be worthy addition. I love these guys as well as Chon and Piglet. Maybe Altered States from Japan, too.
Oliver,
Glaring omission and (IMO) the Merriam-Webster dictionary definition of Math Rock:
'Yank Crime' - Drive Like Jehu (1994)
In my opinion the best of them all...
Hey Great video! Could you do a video on Mathcore? I’m super into Dillinger Escape Plan but finding bands like them is difficult! Botch and early converge are probably the closest I have come
LOvin the channel and the format! Excellent extension of the almost dead alternative radio. Come on my son, John Peel this channel, and the playlists until we get you into the bbc! :)
I love your video style, it feels like I'm having a conversation with you; keep it up.
Hi! your list its amazing
thaks for bring us a lot of data
cheers!!!!! from Argentina
Not out and out Math Rock but shout outs to Clever Girl and Algernon Cadwallader. Those guys just deserve love.
Rock Island by Palm is my fave math album of all time. It’s only two years old, but really, you should give it a try
american football is the only album
ever
Had this list been made today, I'd expect to see Floral's LP on here
Great choices given the million you could choose from. A long time fan of all, especially the Don Cab and Piglet. Even though it's DC Emo, I might have included Kerosene 454's Came By to Kill Me or Shiner's Lula Divinia (I always loved the transition between Sideways and Pinned). On the more difficult side there is U.S. Maple, and for very early MR check out Captain Beefheart's song "Veteran's Day Poppy" from Trout Mask Replica. Great job.
Thanks Craig! I'll probably do a midwest/DC Emo video at some point, because there are a slew of great bands that aren't math enough for this video but fit perfectly into that - Rites of Spring, Cap'n Jazz, American Football etc. I haven't heard Kerosene 454, off to do that right now!
deep cuts Yeah, they kinda sound like Jawbox but more instrumental sections. Yes, there are so many directions to go, with rarer ones like Hurl, Roadside Monument, or trendier ones like Slint , Braid, Promise Ring, and the Kinsella brothers' stuff, all equally great. Thanks for your podcast giving me memories of old and I want to check out the ones you did on areas that I'm less familiar.