Why Are These Aliens Green?
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- Опубліковано 28 лип 2024
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One of the most recognizable species in Star Trek, dating all the way back to The Original Series, is the Orion species. Notorious for their piracy and practicing of slavery, one of the Orions' other most notable traits is their green skin. How has this, as well as other aspects of their biology, impacted the history of their species?
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- CHAPTERS -
00:00 Intro
00:38 Skin & Blood Color
04:53 Alternative Homeworld?
06:20 Pheromones
08:07 Additional Biology Facts
08:47 Conclusion
09:32 Outro - Фільми й анімація
What other species would you like to see me cover in a future Alien Biology video?
The borg
The Voth. ;)
The Breen
did you do the Pakled? After March 2020, i think i was transported to their home world.
Tholians
Brother, I love the way you approach this fictional material as if it was 100% real. You are a credit to all things Star Trek with the intelligence you bring to the subject!
Thank you Jeff! It's nice to be able to produce content that is at the confluence of my interests in science & film/entertainment.
@@OrangeRiver it’s time for me to become a Patron
I had said the same thing but scrolled down and saw your comment. Well said.
@@warrenreid6109 he’s amazing
Taking it seriously is part of what makes our fantasies so much fun! The more I can make sense out of a story, generally, the more I like it.
I love the fact that during the original series, the post production houses kept returning footage of the orion women color-corrected to be white, and they complained to Roddenberry about how their color correction was wrong until Roddenberry told them that the orion woman was SUPPOSED to be green
¡AND LOST SEVERAL NIGHTS ON THIS "MISTAKE"!
Seems like that would be pertinent information....
I just always assumed that their green skin was evolved in a manner similar to most species with regards to coloration, as a natural camoflaging. As you noted, the plantlife on their planet is green as well, perhaps their ancient ancestors evolved green skin to blend in to help hunt prey and hide from other predators.
Yes I think that is a better way of seeing it. Their climate and temperature regulation may also be different as to create a different type of adaptation to deal with their particular star. As human skin color variation is our adaptation to dealing with our sun.
Then why aren't we green? Our vegetation is very green.
Many evolution fan layman assume that mutations just happen conveniently to situational circumstance. However if mutations occur they must be random and they must be based on biochemical realities already existing in the physiology of the parent of the mutation. Some of them work out, many don't. Some aid health, most are destructive to health.
Melanin in human skin can go pale pink to tan to black based on the density of melanin cites and their dilation ability. Human skin without these elements are very pale, with some pink, more or dialations tan, lots almost black.
However the whiter people didn't just wake up in 7million BCE and say, man this sun is harsh on the skin. Road Trip.
A chameleon or octopus has different chemical makeup. A plant leaf and stem has different photoreactive cells.
"including D'Vana Tendi...my wife." That remark earns you my Patr(e)onage.
Lmao, I'm glad to hear it! Thank you
Wishing you and Tendi all the best ❤️
Well done! You're killing me when you add something in like you did around 7:10!
I did read in one of the Q books that the Orions were once part of the Toka Empire and weren't slavers or pirates but after the Empire was destroyed they fell into the later trends.
I was tempted to be a jerk and say, “because that’s what color the body paint was.” But then your video was too excellent. Well done.
Now if I really want to be a hair-splitting troll, I could point out that Susan Oliver (The Cage) was actually NOT the first actor to portray an Orion (as, technically speaking, she wasn’t actually Orion, but a human roll playing an Orion in an illusion). Technically speaking, the distinction of the first actor to portray an actual Orion should be credited to Yvonne Craig in the TOS episode “Whom Gods Destroy.” But I’m not a troll, so I would never do that.
But, your absolutely correct, Viana was being presented as Origon slave woman because they're pheromones are so overpowering that Captain Pike couldn't resist; Only introduce of Number One and young Ensign only thing stopped her getting him.😊😅
Haven’t watched star trek, yet i love watching these videos
Oh my GOD Tyler you can't just ask people why they're green
Lmao
Fuck, I double checked the comments just to see if someone already made this joke.
Congrats on beating me to it.
Apperantly there are some species of fish that have microscopical algae living in symbiosis in their skin. Another possibility for a green skin.
They could've been exposed to gamma rays!💪🤢
Another well done video on an TOS race. I think someone else mentioned the Gorn. I second a look at that dinosaur-like race which has been underused in my opinion.
They've appeared a fair bit in this fan comic: startrek.swiftbow.com/
I always just assumed they had copper based blood like Vulcans/Romulans. Seems the simplest answer to me.
SAME here!
So do central African negroes have black blood cased on carbon? Blood does tint transparent skin (very obvious in Caucasian newbirn babies), but coloring is primarily cells that produce pigmentation despite blood color. Often by hormones (chameleons) or photoreactive (humans with a tan) or by pigment cell density (black humans)
@@STho205 it’s science fiction. Way to virtue signal!
Excuse me gentlemen.
I couldn't help overhearing. Mr. Rudibega is employing the flawed logic of *bulverism* or the *identity fallacy*. Instead of presenting information relevant to the discussion, he fabricates his own false premise of motive upon another, and then attacks that construct of his own fictional motive instead of relevant information.
This is not a valid form of logical discussion or debate. An argument can only be valid if the form of the argument is logically valid.
So avoid using Bulverism, the Identity Fallacy. That would be wise.
Afterall, it is only logical.
“Why is so much of the 24th century info here straight up wrong??”
And then I realized that this video came out like a few weeks short of that Orion-centric lower decks episode. Oof.
Nice quality showing footage of star trek its the first time i have seen it looking so nice
Oh my god, congrats to the newly weds! xD
I laughed way too hard at that joke
For a moment I thought you had painted yourself green, and I thought "wow, this guy is dedicated" then I quickly realized it was just the light.
Orions seem like a fun people. 😂
0:25 Yeah. A lot of guys would like to explore their biology ... as deeply as possible.
I really appreciate the effort on the research you put into your videos and you make it so enjoyable keep it up:)
Actually very plausible commentary in my humble opinion. Great video.
Love your content! These analyses are fantastic
Thank you so much!
thank you for the content. thoroughly enjoying it.
In other words, the Vina Orion slave girl was going to be in charge of Pike.
basically my question wouldn't be why are they green , because we as humans have multiple colors , but why are they literally exactly shaped the same as humans and have pheromones that chemically interact correctly with humans.
Because it was cheap to just cover a woman in green paint and call it a day in 1966.
I figure Orions have been genetically engineering themselves for centuries. So the pheromones they emit would be tailored to local species, allowing Orions to better control whoever they meet. That would be an interesting idea for Orion history, where they would attempt to take over a political organization subtly, rather than by conquest. So lots of politicking rather than threatening, along with building up others to provide better leverage.
The pheromones would also be used to establish their dominance at court functions, where the scent of the leader is supposed to be the strongest. This would affect room design, making sure that the scents/pheromones of the guests is sent out of the room via carefully arranged wind traps, while the pheromone scent of the leader would be blown over the guests (to reinforce her authority). It also means if an Orion leader is injured, that her pheromones won't be as strong, potentially leading to a coup or other political turnover (since nobody can smell her scent as strongly).
As to the body shape - S6E20 "The Chase"
Orion desire for wealth/luxury could even drive their technological development. Rome on Earth would not have wanted to develop better tools as it could put slaves out of work. Orions would develop better technology to make more wealth available. You would also have other Orions who would see the greater wealth being produced, and demand some of that wealth themselves (instead of wealth being concentrated).
Silly...Onions are green because they aren't ripe yet.
Sir, thank you for all the dedication put into these videos!
Thank you Jaime!
Thanks enjoyed that
Thanks Shane!
@@OrangeRiver your welcome
Green lighting, clever.
in re Orion's green sky: When it is heavily overcast, often the water in the air will reflect the colors from the ground.
I remember once in a TOS episode there was a conversation wherein Spock drops the fact that Vulcan and Rigellian anatomies are very similar. Didn’t FASA’s Star Trek role playing game back in the eighties mention that Rigel is part of the Orion colonies? Still, one has to wonder why green blood would only cause Vulcans to appear with only a slight greenish tinge to their skin color and Orions get a full on green hue.
Great video my man!!!
Thank you!
Love your show my Trek Brother.
Very cool breakdown of this species. I found it interesting that they originally were supposed to come in different colours. I wonder if George Lucas knew that and built the Twileks similarly.
Thank you for posting 📫 this video 📫 📹. You have a new subscriber. Keep up the great work 📫 📹 ❤️.
Very much enjoying your content
Thank you Chase!
Thanks for sharing you research on the races I enjoy watching in Star Trek. I think you make me REALIZE I am not as intelligent as I would like to think. I like the way you speak CLEAR and informed of things I know little of Biology and facts of Astronomy Thanks for the insightful look at the Orions
Your such a nerd OrangeRiver and I love you for it
How did it take so many decades for them to do a live-action She-Hulk? They already looked great before the awesome Bixby/Ferrigno were even a thought.
Discovery isn't Prime Canon. Paramount has admitted this so many times. Sane with their admitting Picard isn't Prime in statements regarding season 2 plot holes.
Excellent video. Well done.
Thank you! I really like how this episode in particular turned out.
@@OrangeRiver I like your take on these subjects, and the way you delve into what a lot of us old trekkers have been talking about for decades. Keep up the excellent work.
The twist on Enterprise was the best.
Not necessarily Canon, but there's also a "Star Trek Continues" episode titled "Lolani," about Orion slavery. It guest stars Lou Ferrigno -- from The Incredible Hulk -- as an Orion in another green-skin role.
It should be canon. I weigh it more than Enterprise and then all the recent crap.
You are hilarious. I hope your and D’Vana are very happy
I love the Orions. Nice post. .
You can start with TOS and work your way thru ‘Discovery’; as far as I’m concerned ! Great vid!
We don't need to ask the question. We just need to be happy that they are.
I lost it at “My Wife”
Amazing video, as always! The perfect blend of Star Trek and irl science. I also really appreciated the fact that you said "hetrosexual males/females" as I always found the whole "only men can be affected thing" to be rubbish. Like it's not gonna work if you're not into women XD, same as people of other genders who are attracted to women would be affected. Thank you!
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just did
@@jeffhallam2004 Thank you so much!
@@OrangeRiver I support your art and your hopes! Keep up the good work!
@@jeffhallam2004 Will do!
Although not canon, I would love to hear your thoughts about the treatment of the Orions in Star Trek Continues. A fascinating episode that touches on several points you've raised.
Lol just drop that in there about your wife 🤣🤣🤣
Budget constraints like different colour body paint 😂
Imagine in the far future having the same casual conversation we'd have guessing where a person's from based on their accent, guessing the star system they're from based on their dermal make-up.
They're like the Hutt Cartel of the Trek universe. While they may engage in some rather "unsavory" activities, according to other major players, they're largely left to their own devices. Their assistance is offered to the highest bidder, regardless of affiliation. Not really a threat in full-on war, bit still strong enough to not want to mess with willy nilly.
I was going to suggest Chlorophyll as a joke, but you beat me to it. :)
I’m a new subscriber and was just wondering if you’ve covered the Andorrans before?
Thanks for subbing! I haven't covered the Andorians yet, BUT...I plan to soon. And I'm not just saying that 😉
Yes..you must do more.
Orion’s are cool, but I’ve always been a Andorian fan.
This might be an interesting concept. A diverse skin colour. Obviously, some possibly make no sense. These seem similar to the Osiris God of Ancient Egypt.
I'm going from memory, but didn't the real life reason come from green paint showing up better on TV? I could be totally wrong on this.
i wish they would add in a future trek episode about how the Orion pheromones would affect non-hetero sexualities someday...
Oh. Maybe they have a funky star
There's a species of lizard in the genus Prasinohaema which has green scales and green blood due to the build up of biliverdin which is the same substance that causes bruises to turn green they evolve those feature because it helps them kill malaria in the tropical environment they're from. This could also be a reason why Orion skin and blood is green
This reminds me, when Star Trek Online VERY first launched, this one smart aleck in the forums made a post saying that he wished STO had Orion slave girls so he could have one on his ship.
Next thing you know, threads and post started popping up all over the forums expressing their outrage at STO having slave girls in game. There were even people crying to boycott the game, and it all started from nothing more than a post from a smart aleck making a joke.
Classic internet stupidity lmao
* slaps desk* THE MYCELLIAL NETWORK *
AND MY WIFE... DEVENNA TENDI ! * SAD FACE *
Well played, dude. Hahhaha
Thanks to Green Lantern for the collab with Orange River in this video.
Hi i was wondering if you were also going to be covering the Andorian, Tellerite sorry about spelling Thollian and Gorn species as well sir??:)
I've got plans to cover all of them at one point or another!
Sounds absolutely wonderful thank you kindly sir! 😁👍🏼
i appreciate that you specified heterosexual male and female humans, it’s a welcome touch of nuance
Where the hell were they in the films, TNG, DS9 and VOY?
Gene didn't really want a lot of elements of The Original Series to be carried over to the films and the TNG era. He kind of envisioned those as a soft "reboot" of Star Trek. But with the 21st century shows and films, we're seeing something of a renaissance of a lot of TOS elements :D
@@OrangeRiver They had Andorians in TNG briefly.
Yep, very briefly. In fact Gene barely wanted Vulcans in TNG :0
@@OrangeRiver What was going on with him?
"I'd like to more deeply explore their biology." - Hehe...hehehe...
Sorry, it's infantile, but I couldn't help. :D
Did I miss you doing a vid on the Prime Directive?
I haven't really covered the Prime Directive as a singular topic, I believe.
The Orions in Star Trek Online have a hue range far greater than that of humans, they have all of our pinks and browns and paler whites as well as varying greens. Though the paler varieties are very rare.
What about species on Voyager like Okampa, Tellaxians and species 8472... or some of those weird lifeforms that inhabit space like living spaceships (on TNG?!)? Or the creatures that the Equinox crew were abusing? Is suppose the changelings are probably the most curious.
I wouldn't go as far as 'Farscape'... it's a long time since I saw any of that, but I remember it's got a real living spaceship!
Oh the list is endless if you go to Star Wars and Doctor Who and all the other Sci-fi films and series...!
This explanation is while not wrong, it’s not wide enough in scope. Think alien.
Another way to produce green skin is if it is indeed chlorophyll, however they evolved in such a way that they do not metabolize chlorophyll the way earth mammals do and instead it circulates through their body like an insect. So perhaps their blood is composed entirely differently.
Or recently, we have found that green sea slugs have gained the ability to produce chlorophyll through taking genes from algae and are indeed photosynthetic though not dependent on it like plants.
Another way closer to us is if they naturally have high levels of biliverdin due to differences in liver function (or analogue organ) and instead of it being toxic to them like it is for humans, they adapted to tolerate it. This is why some reptiles have green blood.
People have also suggested that it is leftover from being evolved from an animal that uses it as camouflage
Glad you survived this video.
I'm sure you know what is said about red shirts. 😜
Contiue the good work.
The "red-shirts always die" trope primarily applies to security officers.
Ops and engineer officers (whom also wear red) are generally safe.
YOU ARE "RED SHIRT" IN LANDING PARTY: ¡YOU ARE SO DEAD!!!! AND ALWAYS "PEREZ" "GONZALEZ"
If they came from a galaxy far, far away, maybe they were descended from Twi'leks?
i always thought the Orion were part of the Klingon Empire
Don't give me that sarcastic vulcan salute.. lol
Perhaps they are copper based blood like the vulcans who are also green skinned.
I veg my green plants with heightened levels of blue light.
lol... I love this. OK. Pine in the ST movie supposedly used an Orien Cadet to help him re- program the unsolvable simulation ( forgot the name) that he faced in The Academy. Can we see the cut film or more likely , can you explain what happened. ? My other topic is the lack of Canon.... but maybe that is good... as if we ( OK ,a future script writer ) doesn't like what happened in the past.. he can forget it..... so.. maybe not following Canon can be good. What are your thoughts. ?
The Orions may be referenced in the Urantia Book of the ten human races: red, brown, yellow, black, white, blue, green, orange, purple, and gray.
I'd love to be green!
"What is it?"
"it's green"
(shrugs)
Scotty drinks it.
It's not easy...
@@Anne_Ony_Mouse Yeah, ok Kermie!
As Kermit the frog said "it isn't easy being green"
Why are they green? Because the writers wanted them to look like "aliens".
Vulcans have green blood and Onions are green how close are they on the star chart?
It's not easy beeing green, unless you're Orion.
Or a Tree Frog Kermit! YYYAAAEEYY!
Fascinating....🤔
Gaila (Rachel Nichols) is my favorite Orion.
Are Orions radio-active?
The Orions remind me of the Ogres species, before they turned into the ogres we know well. They were known as the High Ogres in Dragonlance lore. Of course only the Irda retained their High Ogres appearances, while the rest lost their beauty.
Ah yes, the Orions, a race that has evolved to appeal to that 18-35 y/o male demographic
You mean like human females?
The age demographic is at least 14-40.
Source: me.
@@brutusjudas5842 12-50. Source: me.
@@ubiratamuniz 12-50 and STRAIGHT. I thought they were boring.
And lesbians as well.
Dude 7:10 made me howl!
Ryan Reynolds’s BLOODLINE ❤
They are green because the O'Ryans are Irish.
Theory: The Hulk got nasty with with the primordio-Orion female who was mistaken as She-Hulk. That's why their green, and oppressive-aggressive.
These type stars also means the habitable zone is different then ours so I hope nasa has taken that into account
FARTED ! ~~~GREEN !
Hulk’s kids
Mycelial Network, our collective beloved.
I immediately consider the Orian species to be utilizing chlorophyll for energy production.
AND OXYGEN "SELF-MADE"