@@SweetSniper5197climbing at God altitude with mi mig 23, realizing that nobody Is up there, climb down for half the match looking in all directions, killing a poor 104, AIM 9l in the face, repeat
I dunno man, this games seems like you would die alot more often than wot. There are barely anytimes you get away with stupid shit cuz you get one shot most often. Wot is like "shit I lost like half my HP", unless you get death star'd to death. Now if you are talking about repair, she'll cost per game, well well, wot is millions of times worse in terms of costs per game.
I tried playing top tier a bunch, and while it went much better for me than mid and even lower tier, I really think the critical factor is one's ability to mitigate stress, and learn from mistakes made.
@@zeke7100 but at least thats not much a problem in top tier considering its way more face paced game than early and mid tier game UNLESS your vic is superbly pricey to repair
@@arima272 It's even worse in top tier. If you didn't go down the proper line of jets, you'll be fighting jets with insane missiles that 99% of the time get you, guns that can one click you, and then all you have is missiles that can't hit shit at all, guns that take many bursts to kill a target, etc.. It's 100% bullshit at top tier. I went down the f104 route on the america tree. I was sooo happy to be getting my first air to air missiles. I got them and they are garbage. I don't think I've gotten a single kill with them. All the enemy has to do is barely turn, and its lost the target, while I have to almost rip my wings off and pull 12g+ just to avoid a single rocket.
@@arima272 I know, as I said, it's completely dependent on what line you go down. I spent soooooo many countless hours grinding to get the f104, now I have it, it's shit, and it's going to take even longer to get the f-4e or whatever its called, because I only play like 3 games a day max because the game is extremely stressful.
Once apon a time there were two brothers, who made a flight game. Was beginning to think you were talking about the Wright brothers and the first actual flight.
I actually have a physical copy of birds of steel and its amazing how much is still the same. Me and a friend dragged out the old 360 and played it and some things I noticed where: -Radio chatter still has lines that are in the game to this day -waypoints and markers are exactly the same as currently -game for the most part feels familiar to modern war thunder Highly recommend to anyone if you get the chance to play it, do so, For any old players it's a nostalgia trip.
Top tier: Spawn, missile, back to hangar, spawn, one kill, missile, back to hangar, run out of silver because your premium ran out so it's back to lower tier, slower props that now feel like you're flying in molasses.
I just run props and one high tier so I can get those SL from the god mode medal. They can’t lock on with heat seekers (especially if you come from the suns direction), and if you fly low then the radar guided missiles won’t work well.
People basically stopped playing for fun at high tiers, air arcade is practically dead, I would love to have 4 jets and feel less scared about getting oneshotted and having to spend 10 minutes to climb back to the arena.
This a very good guide, wish this was around when I first was getting Japanese Sabres and the T-2. I'll definitely be showing some friends who are getting to this point!
This has got to be the most effort you put into editing a video since your carrier landing videos, because those required you a green screen to actually land those planes.
..... I'm happy that you enjoyed this video I put a lot of effort into it. Those carrier landing videos are real, all done it realistic battle difficulty in WT
Great video, very informative! One small issue however: It would have been good to mention pulse doppler radar and how it works in a nutshell, so some people don’t start accusing F-4EJ, Viggen, and FGR.2 players of hacking.
5:28 If anyone's intrested, the guy on the picture is a Hungarian Gripen pilot, he pulled 9G for 30 seconds with ease, thus qualifying to fly the JAS39 Gripen
Just a little side note PD type radars such as F-4EJ Kai,JA-37C Viggen and the British F-4M and K scan for i belive Pulse effect which is basicly motion/speed and that science stuff,what it does in game however is that they are very good in frontal shots,meh at back shots and will break lock if the aircraft you are locking is flying across your screen Also the PD radars ignore Chaff and Flares becouse they do not produce what the PD radar searches for
as a f2p aviation murican gamer, i am almost there getting the f4c and grind more 500k sl, also grinded it with a toaster ever since i played it in 2020
I still remember playing il-2 sturmovik birds of prey with friends when it first came out. Truly epic game and has been here all of this time. It does have issues but it’s still a great deal of fun
0:12 omg i have that game! i did play it a ton on ym 3Ds as it was really full tho got a bit boring rather fast but still it was my first war game and i still have the card and box with it
Im a mid tier noob and I just bought the F4D-1 for 15$. In my first match I smoked a mig by blasting its engine out, gotta say top tier jet combat is really fun. Great video btw I found using the different radar & missle systems a bit complicated so it helped a lot!
5:15 "The weakness of your plane is not the airframe but the squishy meaty organism that flies it." My expert crew jacked max stamina and g-tolerance pilot, flying his f-8 crusader, trying his best to not pull 10Gs so the wings wouldn't fall off: X for doubt
0:36 And that friends, is why I RARELY use takeoff flaps, and if I do, I am VERY careful. You take off the flaps after takeoff, they stop giving you lift, and BAM! Right into the ground you go if you aren't paying attention.... Yes I speak from experience.... it was VERY embarrassing...
I really don't care about top tier just watching to support you Also the project wingman OST is kinda distracting as it makes me think of a better game
well i havent played top tier but from my dcs experience i can say that having altitude makes things harder as missles experience less drag at high altitudes which makes it easier for them to maneuver and hit you so trying to stay low is a good tactic and it also helps mask against the enemy radar
It only makes sense If ur playing the mirages or the j35 draken! Low altitude makes your movements slow and the missile will hit u without trouble but in high altitude the flares and chaff works better and u can go at your full speed without a prob while in low altitude u would Rio your wings!
@@theidiotictroublemaker2281 since the flare update I’ve not had too much trouble with IR missiles, as long as you’re vigilant, preflare and manoeuvre I’ve had much more success. Magics are usually on my team so I couldn’t speak specifically on them. I find that the new dogfight capable fox 1s and PD radar sets are more dangerous than any IR missile we have currently. Once we step into the realms of all aspect fox 2s it will change the game up.
Receive an Amazing New Player Pack, only available for the next 30 days! Play Conflict of Nations for FREE on PC or Mobile 💥 con.onelink.me/kZW6/8964e414 Here is the link for you to use mums credit card to get the German Mig-21 so you can get clubbed by WT vets store.gaijin.net/story.php?title=MiG-21-SPS-K-Pack&partner=IronArmenian&partner_val=u5g16ff2 There is a pt 2 for this video in the works which explores my suffering as my brain melts playing top tier for many many matches in a row
I dunno man. People are always saying it's fun but... I don't think getting a missile rammed up your tailpipe from an unspotted enemy 5km away every 7 minutes is really that fun sounding. Especially when stock grind even at 8.7 effectively replicates the feeling of C&B Torture (and not even considering the fact that those jets will drain your SL wallet faster than a mugger in Honduras). I'm really honestly still skeptical if it's as fun as earlier jets/props and if I should invest my time and frustration on it.
I have two jets that I bought, the British hardier and the new French Milan.bought them because I won’t lie, been on war thunder since 2014 and wasn’t anywhere even close to jets. I do ok with the harrier since the missiles are so dang good, but I really struggle with my Milan because it’s gun oriented (since the missiles on it might as well not be there) and trying to aim at 800mph is a night mare. Plus I’m always doing the wrong maneuvers on it and loosing energy.
"speed is life and altitude is insurance"
F*ck me, that's a good quote for a pilot.
*Insert Satellite interception here*
altitude is insurance until radar missies
Top tier gameplay is
“I got a kill! Now let me just check m-“
*MISSILE*
*MISSILE*
*MISSILE*
“….shit”
Mine is...
"I got a hit with my R-60 I cant believe it I am a god...
OOOOOH FUC*"
@@SweetSniper5197climbing at God altitude with mi mig 23, realizing that nobody Is up there, climb down for half the match looking in all directions, killing a poor 104, AIM 9l in the face, repeat
Amazing tutorial, but you forgot the part where you uninstall the game after dying 200 times in a row.
I played WoT for three years before I started WT. 200 times in a row is childs play
I dunno man, this games seems like you would die alot more often than wot. There are barely anytimes you get away with stupid shit cuz you get one shot most often. Wot is like "shit I lost like half my HP", unless you get death star'd to death. Now if you are talking about repair, she'll cost per game, well well, wot is millions of times worse in terms of costs per game.
Been there once
yeeeter??
I tried playing top tier a bunch, and while it went much better for me than mid and even lower tier, I really think the critical factor is one's ability to mitigate stress, and learn from mistakes made.
except when the mistakes are every single teammate you have. You can't fix that, other than by never playing air rb again.
@@zeke7100 but at least thats not much a problem in top tier considering its way more face paced game than early and mid tier game
UNLESS your vic is superbly pricey to repair
@@arima272 It's even worse in top tier. If you didn't go down the proper line of jets, you'll be fighting jets with insane missiles that 99% of the time get you, guns that can one click you, and then all you have is missiles that can't hit shit at all, guns that take many bursts to kill a target, etc.. It's 100% bullshit at top tier. I went down the f104 route on the america tree. I was sooo happy to be getting my first air to air missiles. I got them and they are garbage. I don't think I've gotten a single kill with them. All the enemy has to do is barely turn, and its lost the target, while I have to almost rip my wings off and pull 12g+ just to avoid a single rocket.
@@zeke7100 well i can say that you make a mistake from grinding US f104 lmao, but hell its not even good at swedish tt either
@@arima272 I know, as I said, it's completely dependent on what line you go down. I spent soooooo many countless hours grinding to get the f104, now I have it, it's shit, and it's going to take even longer to get the f-4e or whatever its called, because I only play like 3 games a day max because the game is extremely stressful.
Once apon a time there were two brothers, who made a flight game. Was beginning to think you were talking about the Wright brothers and the first actual flight.
With all the Project Wingman OST playing, I instinctively heard "guns, guns, guns!" when you started talking about the plane's guns
Wait for pt2, there is a surprise you will like :D
@@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs
orange
I actually have a physical copy of birds of steel and its amazing how much is still the same. Me and a friend dragged out the old 360 and played it and some things I noticed where:
-Radio chatter still has lines that are in the game to this day
-waypoints and markers are exactly the same as currently
-game for the most part feels familiar to modern war thunder
Highly recommend to anyone if you get the chance to play it, do so, For any old players it's a nostalgia trip.
There is also a free demo version
My PS3 blew up and I cant play it anymore.... I miss my PO-2 in that game...
Top tier: Spawn, missile, back to hangar, spawn, one kill, missile, back to hangar, run out of silver because your premium ran out so it's back to lower tier, slower props that now feel like you're flying in molasses.
You just described what even the fastest props feel like now.
I just run props and one high tier so I can get those SL from the god mode medal. They can’t lock on with heat seekers (especially if you come from the suns direction), and if you fly low then the radar guided missiles won’t work well.
skill issue
People basically stopped playing for fun at high tiers, air arcade is practically dead, I would love to have 4 jets and feel less scared about getting oneshotted and having to spend 10 minutes to climb back to the arena.
Me who hasant even reached mid tier in planes or high tier in ground : ah yes this is perfect for me
Its not worth it.
@@wahttehfuk it's fun tbh
@@belgianfried I, too, enjoy getting yeetered out of existence in spawn by ATGMs within 10 seconds of the match starting.
Me who has spaded the entire german tree and most of the american tree: FINALLY a guide telling me what the fuck is happening half the time.
Eyo, now this is nice. Jet combat is something special xD
Agreed
Hey
This a very good guide, wish this was around when I first was getting Japanese Sabres and the T-2. I'll definitely be showing some friends who are getting to this point!
Been waiting a long time for this
This has got to be the most effort you put into editing a video since your carrier landing videos, because those required you a green screen to actually land those planes.
..... I'm happy that you enjoyed this video I put a lot of effort into it. Those carrier landing videos are real, all done it realistic battle difficulty in WT
@@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs I know. I'm just joking. Maybe I've watched a little too much Abroad in Japan lattely with his greenscreened Mt Fuji joke.
@@martijn9568 oh sorry the joke Flew Over My Head I love abroad in Japan and yes I've seen his funny tweets about the green screen memes.😀
@@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs I knew you liked his channel. I've seen you plenty of times in the comments. Sorry for upvoting them all 😅
Great video, very informative!
One small issue however: It would have been good to mention pulse doppler radar and how it works in a nutshell, so some people don’t start accusing F-4EJ, Viggen, and FGR.2 players of hacking.
Ahh, fellow Project Wingman ost enjoyer 😎👍
There are going to be a lot more references in part 2 of this video
Don't buy top tier...
But here buy top tier
Love it
Iron you're more British then you realise ❤
A bit late but that thumbnail is pure gold
5:28 If anyone's intrested, the guy on the picture is a Hungarian Gripen pilot, he pulled 9G for 30 seconds with ease, thus qualifying to fly the JAS39 Gripen
Opening up that F4E secondary weapons guide for the first time
“N U T”
Iron, make more videos like this.
Maus of the comment section what is your wisdom?
Panzerkampfwagen VIII Of this Comment section, Was ist You’re Wisdom?
That feeling when you get angry at a teamkiller but he apologizes and you feel sad
If they acknowledge it makes me less said definitely. It would be nice if in WT the killer pays your repair cost
Just a little side note
PD type radars such as F-4EJ Kai,JA-37C Viggen and the British F-4M and K scan for i belive Pulse effect which is basicly motion/speed and that science stuff,what it does in game however is that they are very good in frontal shots,meh at back shots and will break lock if the aircraft you are locking is flying across your screen
Also the PD radars ignore Chaff and Flares becouse they do not produce what the PD radar searches for
I remember birds of steel so much it was the very first game I played that would inevitably lead me to war thunder.
and the stock grind!: spawn, kill 2 AAA, die, repeat for 1 month until you can have missiles to finaly play the game...
8:22 Ah, you thought you had me! I am using My DAD'S credit card so ha!
NEW IRON VIDEO!!
as a f2p aviation murican gamer, i am almost there getting the f4c and grind more 500k sl, also grinded it with a toaster ever since i played it in 2020
I still remember playing il-2 sturmovik birds of prey with friends when it first came out. Truly epic game and has been here all of this time. It does have issues but it’s still a great deal of fun
iron : tries to fire a missle below 1.2km
me a semi-competent phantom player : *pain*
0:12 omg i have that game! i did play it a ton on ym 3Ds as it was really full tho got a bit boring rather fast but still it was my first war game and i still have the card and box with it
The name was bird of steal or another because I rember it too but I completley forgot the name
@@lorenzocannizzaro847 in germany its called IL☆2STURMOVIK
Birds Of Prey
@@traga5248 sorry for the late reply, but thank yes it's the same name here i love'd that game when i was younger
@@lorenzocannizzaro847 oh the good old days am i right? i loved shooting down friendly idk just they looked to easy to shoot as teamates haha
0:40
Awesome! Bravo! Well done! Attention to the map! Attack the D point! No! I agree! Thank you very much!
"Trust me I know what I'm doing"
Iron..... Properly
Im a mid tier noob and I just bought the F4D-1 for 15$.
In my first match I smoked a mig by blasting its engine out, gotta say top tier jet combat is really fun. Great video btw I found using the different radar & missle systems a bit complicated so it helped a lot!
My favorite thing in war thunder is the ‘air alert’ voice lines sounding like a dude screaming into a can
"Speed is life"- happy Viper noises
Step by step guide on how to ruin a good plan.
Step 1: “I know what I am doing.”
Step 2: prophet.
The radar info was super useful, I never figured the dotted line was a lock. Now I know when to start worrying, lmao
2:11 Getting congratulate for crashing during take off at the start of a march 🤣🤣🤣
I usually do that too.
5:15 "The weakness of your plane is not the airframe but the squishy meaty organism that flies it."
My expert crew jacked max stamina and g-tolerance pilot, flying his f-8 crusader, trying his best to not pull 10Gs so the wings wouldn't fall off:
X for doubt
Me getting flashbacks
3:36 ah yes broken shadows in Air battles Gaijin gg
Props to you for Jose Pavli’s Project Wingman music
This is a nice, much needed video.
Thanks!
Glad you liked it :D
0:36 And that friends, is why I RARELY use takeoff flaps, and if I do, I am VERY careful. You take off the flaps after takeoff, they stop giving you lift, and BAM! Right into the ground you go if you aren't paying attention.... Yes I speak from experience.... it was VERY embarrassing...
Him : don’t buy a pack and go straight to top tier also him: buy my top tier pack with this promo code
Now this is some informative content for new players
How to Top Tier: watch Hot Shots! and try to replicate in game
It's all fun and games until you hit 9.3-9.7. You're either clubbing or fodder.
spot on
Was that PW OST I heard? Good choice and nice video too.
I really don't care about top tier just watching to support you
Also the project wingman OST is kinda distracting as it makes me think of a better game
I hear that Project Wingman music!
Hmm, nice decal, it fits very well alongside the japanese pin-up.
“Don’t buy a top tier jet if you’re mid tier”
Me regretting spending $70 on the f4s phantom II ;-;
"Radar sucks at low altitude because ground clutter"
Flies a plane with Pulse Doppler radar but doesn't turn it on then says the thing above xd
Birds of steel sounds like...
*YOU HAVE BALLS OF ST-*
3:00 smh my man forgot about the legendary fireflash
I remember when you started asking chat what missile you could use to best kill a target on the runway. Good times.
This is just what I need when I got my f5a while only reach 5.0 plane
This soundtrack at the beginning... maaaan
CEO of war thunder funny
That was fun to watch and educational
Can you make a video explaning and giving tips about keys configs, im realy confused about the controls in war thunder
I actually have Birds of Steel for the DS, I just need to remember where it is as I haven’t touched it in years.
well i havent played top tier but from my dcs experience i can say that having altitude makes things harder as missles experience less drag at high altitudes which makes it easier for them to maneuver and hit you so trying to stay low is a good tactic and it also helps mask against the enemy radar
What?
It only makes sense If ur playing the mirages or the j35 draken! Low altitude makes your movements slow and the missile will hit u without trouble but in high altitude the flares and chaff works better and u can go at your full speed without a prob while in low altitude u would Rio your wings!
@@theidiotictroublemaker2281 conversely if you have eyes that work it is super easy to bleed a missile of its energy at low altitude.
@@fenriders7008 that works mostly for radar ones! But for magic's that's a different story!
@@theidiotictroublemaker2281 since the flare update I’ve not had too much trouble with IR missiles, as long as you’re vigilant, preflare and manoeuvre I’ve had much more success. Magics are usually on my team so I couldn’t speak specifically on them.
I find that the new dogfight capable fox 1s and PD radar sets are more dangerous than any IR missile we have currently. Once we step into the realms of all aspect fox 2s it will change the game up.
I always struggle with missle kills, they seem to lock on to enemies at like 3km but then they just can't keep up and blow up before hitting anyone
When the project wingman music
4:42 Weather potato is not amused.
>war thunder video
>sponsored by conflict of nations
That lady squashing the watermelon had me thinking that she was actually having a huge dump somehow full of blood
I remember. i used to play birds of steel on ps3. I loved that game
Step 1: have flares
Step 2: you are now invincible
Step 3: FULL THROTTLE
Radar missiles say hello :)
@@TheIronArmenianakaGIHaigs i mean... I haven't found them to be too much of a problem if you stay low and figure notching out ig
Damn that's a great clip of the chaff bug about 4 minutes in
Well technically Birds of Prey was the firs- dies
ah how times have changed. I came here to learn current top tier after going 2 and 17 in my mig 29, alas you’re talking about 10.3 planes :(
"Top tier players with more time in their top tier jet than with real girlfriends" BWAHAAAAAAA!!!!!
I will watch this video because I like Iron even though I'm not even Rank III in air.
I grinded for the event and got a top tear jet and I had no problem jumping from 5.7 to 9.3
I've been riding the top tier wave since the F100 and Mig 19 and I still suck at top tier jets
I typed this up on google and its "recommended section" was the sponsor
Project Wingman soundtrack right there.
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There is a pt 2 for this video in the works which explores my suffering as my brain melts playing top tier for many many matches in a row
Already do. For three years.
M163 VADS video when
Nice video!!
Guide: don’t get in a top br plane if you’re in middle br
Me: put a top br jet and go in to battle with my i 153
1:54
look ma, im on TV
2:45 project wingman?!?!?!
video about how to top tier
me who's highest aircraft is the FW190A1 and will most likely never get to top tier: *HMM INTERESTING*
I dunno man. People are always saying it's fun but... I don't think getting a missile rammed up your tailpipe from an unspotted enemy 5km away every 7 minutes is really that fun sounding. Especially when stock grind even at 8.7 effectively replicates the feeling of C&B Torture (and not even considering the fact that those jets will drain your SL wallet faster than a mugger in Honduras). I'm really honestly still skeptical if it's as fun as earlier jets/props and if I should invest my time and frustration on it.
I have two jets that I bought, the British hardier and the new French Milan.bought them because I won’t lie, been on war thunder since 2014 and wasn’t anywhere even close to jets.
I do ok with the harrier since the missiles are so dang good, but I really struggle with my Milan because it’s gun oriented (since the missiles on it might as well not be there) and trying to aim at 800mph is a night mare. Plus I’m always doing the wrong maneuvers on it and loosing energy.
Here’s a tip if you shoot the plane after there dead but still have there name black you get a assist even tho there dead
2:15
f5 damage model is fine I assure you
Nah man, I don’t need to know how to play jets, I need to know how the hell to grin up to jets.
Correction: "the squishy _barely_ sentient organism"
Unexpected Tom Scott.
2:02 lmao
I'm never playing war thunder again, I've fully given up on it.
Have you heard of the PD mode on the radar?
hey! my avatar xD
Hey, you're getting the weird shadows too
Me reaching F86 (rank 5) and going to reach rank 6: you make me scare
man i miss those bfm on prop age
The Iron Armenian... arent u the guy with that "Sekrit Documents" meme/photo ? From years ago.
Mean while me using a 3.7 aircraft to club unsuspecting Jets for the god mode bonus