Because she pretty, popular, tall, and rich, and they constantly want to bring her down to feel better about themselves in a society that constantly disregards their opinion unless they are spouting hate on the internet and it gives them their much desired attention.
they always be hating on ive, especially wonyoung, and this was a stupid reason to hate on her like did SHE personally draw them? I don't think so, did SHE approve them? I don't think so, like I get the anger, but the netz should be more reasonable and go shittalk starship and not the girls
the artist of the mv studied art in china. she took ideas from the culture, used it in the mv and now clueless people are calling it “Korean”. Chinese people would have appreciated it if starship acknowledged the fact that it was inspired by china, but everyone is painting it as korean. Hate against Chinese people is real because when idols steal from black culture by doing braids everyone is hating but when idols steal from Chinese culture is “oh it’s rich coming from them”. Many Chinese things nowadays are getting rebranded as korean like tanghulu, malatang, nails, makeup, shops/brands etc. and even if they aren’t specified as “Korean”, the media has advertised and marketed these things as Korean (or japanese) and then everyone from the west believes it’s Korean because Korean culture is better than China in their eyes. IVE is not an isolated issue when it comes to Sinophobia, but is definitely fuelling the fire.
@@syntheticbeats7836 coming from the country that reverse engineers everything and then sells crap on temu....oh the hypocrisy from these caonima choubis
But C-netz didn't say anything when CHINA tried to claim the culture of the entire EAST-ASIA as theirs.....😅😅😅 They are just too much. & Hating IVE for it is too much as the concept is not in their hand.
KOREA, JAPAN, VIETNAM AND CHINA ARE ALL A PART OF THE SINOSPHERE. The SINOSPHERE consists of countries that historically were heavily influenced by Chinese culture, norms and traditions. That is why there are so many similarities people!!!
true although it was kinda partially influenced bu chinese culture like some ornaments did look similar but the prob why are they getting so offended ?
Similar doesn't mean completely the same,have you search what elements they use in the mv,？It's totally chinese staff,Korea keep use the influence of kpop,it is culture appropriation😅
But why tf do people even target wonyoung? Is she the producer ? Manager ? Starship owner ? Starship herself ? She WORKS in starship not own it. Now there is a limit of critisism, go to starships account or yt channel. Comment there. Why wonyoung ??
IVE: “HEYA means sun in korean. The mv concept is based on the korean folklore or “tiger, sun and moon”. Plus the girls are wearing a hanbok design dress. Chinese netizens need to educate themselves first.
@loelds4817 frrr. Heya didn't even steal Chinese culture to start with. Even if there was chines culture, there was also Korean culture so there is nothing wrong with what IVE did. Chinese fans always ovvereact tbh. First it was tzuyu, then shuhua and now IVE. like they should calm down
the artist of the mv studied art in china. she took ideas from the culture, used it in the mv and now clueless people are calling it “Korean”. Chinese people would have appreciated it if starship acknowledged the fact that it was inspired by china, but everyone is painting it as korean. Hate against Chinese people is real because when idols steal from black culture by doing braids everyone is hating but when idols steal from Chinese culture is “oh it’s rich coming from them”. Many Chinese things nowadays are getting rebranded as korean like tanghulu, malatang, nails, makeup, shops/brands etc. and even if they aren’t specified as “Korean”, the media has advertised and marketed these things as Korean (or japanese) and then everyone from the west believes it’s Korean because Korean culture is better than China in their eyes. IVE is not an isolated issue when it comes to Sinophobia, but is definitely fuelling the fire.
@@loelds4817do you really know what you say idiot😅 you need more educate, please check every single element appear in the MV, none of them belong to Korea😊
@@loelds4817? It’s not the hanbok but the art if you see the Mv. If you used it ok! No problem. BUT if you CLAIMED it as your countrys history (idk how to explain it) that’s WRONG
Those comments are from a small number of people who are already hating on IVE and Korean anyway, majority of mainlanders don't even pay attention to the issue and the sales for MiuMiu is going strong. Those people from 'original' culture needs to learn about cultural assimilation and what happened when you made other group of people believe your belief.
I’m honestly just impressed by Wonyoung’s influence. Her name is on everybody’s lips even when she’s literally just breathing and that’s so crazy to me
Ok China they don’t mind that they share BUT when Korea start claiming that it is theirs, Korea has crossed the freaking line. You see Japan they also share a history but Japan they sorta reshape it(?) until you would definitely see the difference. But Korea they don’t they just use it as their own, which is the part that makes China fans mad.
@@whattareyoudoing Coz it is ours lol. What do you expect? It’s Korean, so it’s Korean. Are all gothic style buildings Spanish? No. Because Europe shared a similar culture. Same here. It’s oriental, East Asian theme that we commonly share between Korea Japan and China.
@@Whatchalookinattt my ass bro, for someone who openly stole others art you have alot of shit to say. Even IF we commonly share a history, doesn't mean that you have the right to take smt that belonged to chinese art as your own . you can use it BUT YOU SHOULD NEVER FUGDING CLAIM IT AS YOUR OWN. Tanghulu suddenly became a KOREAN food when it's chinese. You korean did't even deny it was korean and continue saying it was korean. 🐶💩
I wanna know what job these haters have where they can afford Miu Miu and also have enough free time to care about stuff like this also. It must not be a very interesting job lol
the artist of the mv studied art in china. she took ideas from the culture, used it in the mv and now clueless people are calling it “Korean”. Chinese people would have appreciated it if starship acknowledged the fact that it was inspired by china, but everyone is painting it as korean. Hate against Chinese people is real because when idols steal from black culture by doing braids everyone is hating but when idols steal from Chinese culture is “oh it’s rich coming from them”. Many Chinese things nowadays are getting rebranded as korean like tanghulu, malatang, nails, makeup, shops/brands etc. and even if they aren’t specified as “Korean”, the media has advertised and marketed these things as Korean (or japanese) and then everyone from the west believes it’s Korean because Korean culture is better than China in their eyes. IVE is not an isolated issue when it comes to Sinophobia, but is definitely fuelling the fire.
@@rinexorcist8081this is largely a cultural issue and not a political one. even Taiwanese people are agreeing that IVE has been stealing chinese culture which says a lot
THISSSSSSSS. Couldn't have said it better. I was happy when i discovered kpop, i saw someone that looked similar to me on big stages, etc. Now it's kinda something i lowkey dislike. I like the music, but i end up disliking it a bit because of everything being labelled korean. A chinese trend/famous snack, now it's korean to all the kpop stans. You try to say it's chinese, but then ppl just start saying ur a ccp bot. It's insane how some people think. I'm sick of it honestly. There's something wrong when every thing is just labelled korean or japanese.
We made it popular. Korea never claimed in it was Korean. You guys are actually shit at promoting your own culture. When the Chinese promote it, people hate it. That’s your fault not koreas. Ramen is Chinese food, but who made it popular? The Japanese did. It’s because Chinese quality is low grade and lack luster. You can only blame yourselves for your own failure. But the Chinese are communists and the cultural revolution destroyed it, blame yourselves.
It is chinese culture, but this time it has nothing to do with the actual members, rather its the designs team fault for not being able to bring out actual korean culture for the MV. Shame on starship, and they're not doing anything in this situation either.
@@loelds4817 Not the hanbok, there were other various Chinese culture in the mv. Watch her other video and you'll see what im talking about. Besides, the Hanbok IS an inspiration from the Chinese Hanfu, if you didn't know they colonised them way back during the Han dynasty(not exactly sure when). There you have it.
@@Eunseokswife why would chinese netizens be irritated then? People don't have a problem with chinese culture being used in the music video. for example, svt's super have clearly stated that they took inspo from jurney to the west, but ive advertised chinese culture as korean, which is blatant theft
@@DittoItzy-mz6ls I think it's because China is known for copying and stealing that's why you have cheap, China-made products. They even steal islands 🙃
@@DittoItzy-mz6lsit means they were so brave telling they hate thieves as if they didnt steal evrything. Even other country's island which are not their property, they claimed it. Such a big bunch of thieves ,😂😂
IVE: “HEYA means sun in korean. The mv concept is based on the korean folklore or “tiger, sun and moon”. Plus the girls are wearing a hanbok design dress. Chinese netizens need to educate themselves first.
You learnt the word hanbok and suddenly became so knowledgable about the differences between Korean and Chinese culture. Kpop groups have been doing Korean inspired concepts for a while and there was never an issue because the actual Koreans and Chinese can distinguish them. The fact here is that Starship DID use really representative Chinese elements and called it a day. Stop thinking you know it all about a 5000 year civilization
It's not fair that they are targeting Wonyoung instead of the creative director of the concept... who had travelled to China and gathered inspo from it... the clouds are definitely chinese, not korean. Cultural appreciation is fine, but claiming obvious cultural items and art that is not korean to be korean is NOT. I wish people would just get the point first, instead of hurling racist comments towards chinese people for being angry that their own culture is being claimed as korean. Imagine if korean people claimed the kimono to be theirs... The Japanese would not be happy about that at all... But because foreigners have a better like for anything Japanese, I doubt they would receive the same ignorant comments telling them that they should go and 'educate' themselves.
Some Chinese netizens are even saying that the hanbok and kimono are “Chinese dresses” because silk came from china. Bruh, are they nuts? Then chinese people shouldn’t wear cotton or denim and call it “chinese fashion”.
@@loelds4817 OMG！！I heard this statement for the first time，There is almost no Christianity in China，We don't care about Jesus，You have this idea，It indicates that you have been coveting the origin of Jesus for a long time，Are you trying to steal the origin of Jesus？
@@loelds4817 OMG！！！！There is almost no Christianity in China,we don't care about Jesus,You have this idea,it means you've been coveting it for a long time,Are you trying to steal the origin of Jesus？
@@bearblob7036 In the Philippines, we're having hard time here because of Chinese coast guards. They're basically stealing our ocean. So, for me, it is ironic.
@@lovesleah._.3 I understand the frustrations regarding the situation in the South China Sea. However, it’s important to consider that China has historical claims to these waters, which are based on centuries of documented presence and use. China believes it is protecting its rightful territories and securing vital resources for its large population. Moreover, China has repeatedly expressed a desire for bilateral negotiations to resolve these disputes peacefully and cooperatively, aiming to find solutions that respect the interests of all involved parties.
@@bearblob7036cause china is „famous“ for faking and producing products that are knock offs from something else, mostly wealthy western brands, now unlike many think it is also illegal to do that there(as long as in China the trademark is also protected there.) But the controls and the measures that are then taken are very vague, which is why so many fake things are produced in China. So it's ironic when the Chinese say they don't like thieves. Unfortunately, the country is known abroad for "stealing" things, which of course isn’t the fault of every individual Chinese citizen, but we can apply that to every stereotype of a country.
@@bearblob7036 wdym peacefully, they sprayed water on Philippine boats to chase them away and started putting barrier's around so that fishermen wouldn't be able to fish and make a living China's resources are diminishing so they started claiming land expecting the country to just Agree with it. We have proof of the barriers and spraying water btw
Theyre such lowlifes. They should go email whoever made the mv or whatever they are mad at. What is Wonyoung or Miu Miu going to do. And Boo hoo Miu Miu a multimillion company is not crying over some troll comments😂
@@nghiango1655 seems you also lack comprehension skills you talked about apologizing first and those plagues happened way before COVID so y’all have to apologize first either way , I don’t have to be Chinese to have common sense which is something that’s in decline these days so sad for you
wonyoung definately does not deserve the hate she is receiving but i really wish people would stop labelling chinese fans as "sensitive" or "overreacting" in this situation because their culture was literally appropriated. of course its true that Korean culture shares a number of similarities with Chinese culture, but in this situation ive used numerous elements of Chinese culture and labelled them all as Korean (baoshan fan, opium pipe, old beijing shoes, Chinese knot, Chinese clouds, etc). i know damn well that if it was any other culture you guys would be fucking pissed but because the culture being appropriated is Chinese, everyone turns a blind eye...
As if Chinese companies like CASETiFY, TEMU, SHEIN don't steal designs from small business all around the world and As if China didn't colonise Korea and enforce all their customs
Why are yall saying "thats brave coming from chinese people" why are you being racist like that and I understand that you guys arent with them but still let them be
Considering China takes so much influence from south korean pop culture and others today, it’s rather hypocritical they are criticizing anyone about copying.
Considering China takes so much influence from south korean pop culture and others today, it’s rather hypocritical they are criticizing anyone about copying.
Like, are we ok? Chinese culture IS Korean culture. Chinese culture IS East Asian culture. Chinese culture is and will always be intermingled with any other East Asian culture. Like, did we forget how much area several Chinese and Mongolian dynasties ruled? Did we forget for how long and how many times what we know as Korea today was under Chinese rule? Buddhism exists in Korea because of China. They used Chinese writing until the 1400s when Hangul was invented. Sounds like education is lacking in a lot of places. This is so stupid.
@seveteensBIGGESTfanIt’s true but semantics and little details matter a lot to some individuals of each of those countries. Namely the nationalistic ones. My boyfriend is Korean and he will get so mad if anyone ever names similarities between Chinese and Korean culture (not even saying which is better but even just anyone who compares). This is because he is very nationalistic Korean and he believes Korea to be superior to most East Asian countries in general for a lot of things. I’m Chinese btw 😂
i'm chinese and have done a lot of research on chinese, korean, japanese, etc. culture recently and in the past and there is definitely some similarities between these major east asian countries, but they're still individual countries. understandably, since many east asian countries were ruled by different dynasties of mongolia and china, they'll have similarities in things such as religion, similar regional holidays, traditions, and things like that which have been shared by these countries for centuries. however, that's not to say that they're exactly the same or that one culture is the same as another culture. there are cultural differences, including cuisine, clothing, language (including dialects, as each region within even a single country may have a different one), etc. putting them together and saying one is exactly like the other isn't true, as it seems you're doing here. that could be considered racism depending on who you ask, with a stereotype similar to "all look same" where people from the same or different countries are compared far too closely to one another that their differences are lost.
@@kpopiconicc well, it seems that all that research did not help you read and/or comprehend anything. I didn’t say even once they were the same. I said “Chinese culture is and will always be intermingled with East Asian culture”, if you don’t know what that means, then I suggest doing some reading. It’s the same with the US and Latin America. European culture IS the Americas culture. It’s literally the basis of the current culture in the Americas. Just like indigenous culture IS American culture. And African culture IS American culture. All of these are the basis for cultures in the Americas. Same with Chinese culture in East Asia and even SEA.
People don't have a problem with chinese culture being used in the music video. for example, svt's super have clearly stated that they took inspo from jurney to the west, but ive advertised chinese culture as korean, which is blatant theft
Jessussssss leave wonyoung for once my god!!! They were waiting for something like this to happen so can they throw it on this girl!!! Its soo sad we live in such a cruel world! 😪
In my opinion, they do have a right to be angry, and it acc does show quite a bit of racism from people when they claim that’s it’s not a big issue. The main reason you think this, if because they are both East Asian countries, and to those people, there is that much of a difference between e.g china, Korea and Japan. Like if this was done with black culture y’all would be raving. Some of these cnetz are overreacting tho, I don’t think it was ever claimed to be Korean culture, and it’s starships’s fault not Ive. Basically, people on both sides of this argument are not well informed enough, and are therefore reaching to the extremes
@@w0esk yeah, but I personally think the backlash shouldn’t have to be directed towards them cos they haven’t consciously done anything wrong. Like they r doing their job. And whilst the c-netz do have a right to be angry, they r getting angry at the wrong people. They are targeting the followers not the leaders
i do think chinese ppl have the right to be upset over it, but not angry. china colonized korea for many years, so obviously they're gonna have many similarities, but being angry over it is just stupid. you can't colonize a country and then be upset when parts of your history get mixed with their history. also i don't think IVE or the company itself ever claimed to represent korean culture, it was mostly their fans who started spreading that idea around
@@shoshoshuffle oh that’s great to know abt the company not claiming it to be Korean! I’m sorry I was misinformed about that! I also totally get where you’re coming from, but the artistic director of the mv studied art in china, and used Chinese culture as a base for the mv(please do correct me if I’m wrong), so I guess they still have a right to be angry.
@@AmberMizuki-y9h idk abt the art director so i can't speak on that, but i still think anger to that extent is unnecessary. im talking from personal experience as i come from a country that was also colonized for centuries and now the colonizers want to claim everything (art, foods, myths etc) as theirs. i don't think you can bring things into a civilization and then get mad when those things become part of their culture. i can understand what you point is tho
Nahh nah, Chinese don't want "thieves" but is okay in stealing another country's island. 😂😂😂 Also Wonyoung is still slaying as usual, this is just another Tuesday for her 😂
The worst thing that can happen to miu miu is to lose Chinese market If they lose the Chinese market they are significantly done for, because foreign brands depended heavily on the Chinese market as they are the largest consumer of luxury products. And the funny thing about Chinese netizens is that once they decide not to buy from you there is no going back even after an apology. Once cancelled, always canceled
we can't APPRECIATE other cultures now? heck, if other ethnicity used my culture as inspiration, i would be FLATTERED. why is everything an issue nowadays? it just seems so insecure of people.
Yes we can but it has to be done tastefully, but in this situation although, ur right. Ive appreciated Chinese culture at its finest. Luckily no over sexualization was present so I don’t understand the uproar.
as far as i know south korea and china share a lot of cultural aspects including food and art so idk why chinese people are so angry,, china has been a huge influence and impact for many east asian countries bc of trade and what not so idk why both koreans and chinese people get so pressed about the similarities between their cultures like babes your ancestors wanted that it’s not a big deal
You’re right. Like Ancient Rome to other European countries, ancient China as the cultural center of East Asian in the history has dramatically influenced many neighboring countries and regions over centuries, and consequently they share many cultural similarities nowadays, like Japan, and they all live in peace on that part. But why there’s always some intense controversy in terms of cultural heritage towards South Korean, that’s something really interesting to think about.
@@tian3127 why china is internationally renowned for “made in china” is also something to think about. Taiwan never has these issues with Korea. are taiwanese not chinese? 😄
Why do people waste their time with this sort of stuff?? Even if there are aspects from Chinese culture, deal with it and move on!! People are so sensitive about stuff like this
I’m Chinese and I know about this but we love Wonyoung and they are still young we want them to grow up faster and get a better life we need to take care of them I never gonna stop liking Wonyoung
Finding many comments on one hand stressing China “colonized” Korean in history and on the other hand denying the cultural influence of ancient China on Korean is really hilarious. Let me ask how often do you ever find silk fans (in all shapes) in Korean historical dramas? Almost never. And suddenly it showed up in a modern Kpop MV and became traditionally Korean? So funny.
Chinese dramas often portray students wearing the Korean school uniform “gyobok” and even the hanbok. Since when did Chinese students wear name tags, korean crop cut blouse and non pleated chima to school? Everyone knows Chinese students wear trainers in real life. Do you actually consider dramas as culturally and historically accurate? Please educate yourself first. You are looking like another racist troll.
Chinese dramas always portray students wearing korean school uniforms like the gyobok and even the hanbok. Since when did Chinese students wear name tags, korean crop cut blouse and non pleated chima to school? Everyone knows Chinese students wear trainers. Do you think dramas are culturally and historically accurate? Please educate yourself because you look dumb as hell.
It's funny how ONLY brands that work with Wonyoung that got boycotted, not even Yujin.. So atp they just find any excuses to hating this girl lol, give her a breakkk
Just trying to explain to those who don’t understand why “stealing culture” is a thing. Koreans claim many cultural heritages as their own even if it is certainly not. Examples include but not limited to: claiming Confucius as Korean, claiming they invent dragon boat festival, cropping and using images of Hanfu as propaganda for Hanbok (which comes from hanfu) and the “beautiful korean culture”and many other cultures that originate from China as originating from Korea and terming the items as “traditional korean”. And Chinese people since they pretty much have their own social media apps so they won’t see what koreans are doing on western social media and applying to UNESCO. YES. East Asia have similar or partly-shared culture, but this is mostly based on China which has been spreading culture to these other regions for thousands of years and places like Korea learned and adopted the culture rather than inventing them themselves. If you still don’t understand, just think of UK or France or any other country of western civilization claiming they own and invent the ancient roman art and architecture and saying Aristotle is British or French, or American people saying they invent pizza. Hope yah know what i meant now😅
So, concerning the cultural stealing in the M/V, China and Korea have always seemed to have this disagreement about whether something is inherently from one culture or the other. For example: historical myths, medicine, and clothing are often debated between the countries. China says Korea stole from their culture and saying that it's "actually Chinese," and then Korea will state that it's a tradition in Korea as a rebuttal. This is just something I've noticed, regardless of IVE's position as it's happened prior to IVE as well. It's not the citizen's fault (or the group in those case) of what it's taught to know or do. It's the teacher/government's responsibility to inform the citizen. So, if Starship was trying to misappropriate Chinese culture, then Starship is at fault and IVE is innocent unless they were knowingly doing this. However, anthropological speaking, historical recollections of myths and stories are often similar in different parts of the world. Like how a lot of Shonen anime reference Journey to the West (a Chinese epic). Or how imperialism, feudalism, and colonization will ultimately reshape how one tells their own history. So, there may be a little truth here, but we cannot say for certain.
ABOUT THE DESIGNS IN HEYA, I think they were pretty Chinese (although the two countries share a lot of culture), but I think the problem lies where Starship people are like, “acktuallie, it’s korean”. Maybe if they just acknowledged that they ARE ACTUALLY CHINESE, then, Wonyoung wouldn’t have to be called names like this and the members would have caught a break 😀
@@Whatchalookinatttyea fr the tiger, the hair accessories, and the concept with the sun itself is very Korean. I don’t expect much from Chinese ppl cuz some accused us of stealing 한복 like wtf 🤦♀️
@@Whatchalookinatttyes all Korean 😂I heard a lots Japanese friends said Korean not only stealing from Chinese ...but Japanese too 🤣 seems like you guys got long-term stealing histories 😂？you know there are something called Wikipedia ？？Korean seems not only interested get face are cheated by plastic surgery 😂but seems everything 😂
is so funny when delulu Chinese people get so mad at their neighbors for "stealing" "their" culture as if there wasn't a lot of similarities and differences between them... remember when they claimed taekwondo was Chinese because Korea comes from China or something like that? same thing here
Comments about cultural appropriation are often hypocritical. Like, you want a certain culture to be promoted and recognized but, once it is enjoyed and appreciated by people from other cultures to the point where they want to make it a part of their lives, you call them thieves. Keep your Chinese culture to yourself and don’t listen di K-Pop, then!
People don't have a problem with chinese culture being used in the music video. for example, svt's super have clearly stated that they took inspo from jurney to the west, but ive advertised chinese culture as korean, which is blatant theft
@@mr.tawakalYujin explicitly stated that the comeback was based off Korean culture and style, with no mentions of Chinese culture. This sentence isn’t wrong as there are Korean elements as well, but making it all about Korean culture and speaking nothing about Chinese culture when several Chinese elements were used in the MV, members’ outfits and comeback stage set is not alright. If Starship or the members had said one sentence about the MV being inspired by Chinese culture, Chinese people would have praised IVE a lot, but they did not.
Idk a thing about Chinese/South Korean cultural crossover, but I do know that China has plenty of options over Miu Miu, like Temu and Aliexpress, where "original" Chinese designs abound 😅
I think what people are mad about it’s not them using the concept, but it’s the fact that it is stated as Korean traditional style, when most of it is influenced by ancient china. This will confuse people who are not really familiar with Asian culture and make them think that these are truly solely Korean style. tbh although I’m Chinese myself but I am not that familiar with the difference, but I’m just summarizing what I’ve seen online. Judging by the comments around this topic, although both side have irrational people, I do tend to see a lot of Korean netizens who refuses to give any credit to china. We all understand that similarity lies within the different cultures but this feels like plagiarism in a way since china is not addressed and credited at all for the elements.
My girl Wonyoung cant have a break from this toxic ppl who wanna see her downfall 💀little they know they paying her rent by commenting on her social medias
Isn't Korea was colonize by China in the past? Second thing its not ive fault its there agency faults . People or Chinese netizens should criticize their agency not ive.
Wonyoung can't catch a breakkk
Poor sister, god bless her with success forever. Let’s hope this ends ameen 🥰🤲🏽
Fr girl was finally catching a break from hate but then this happened 😭😭
@@ucihaitachi3869 For some reason, people can’t stop accusing her of getting a plastic surgery every month 💀
@@Verowinday777 they be acting as if wonyoung was ugly in iz*one
Its not even her fault..
People are truly jobless
Since when is this wonyoung's fault? They always have to hate her for everything
Because she pretty, popular, tall, and rich, and they constantly want to bring her down to feel better about themselves in a society that constantly disregards their opinion unless they are spouting hate on the internet and it gives them their much desired attention.
just because she is an IVE member
because she’s an it girl and people are jealous.
Is called "jealousy"
@@it.comes.around exactly
they always be hating on ive, especially wonyoung, and this was a stupid reason to hate on her like did SHE personally draw them? I don't think so, did SHE approve them? I don't think so, like I get the anger, but the netz should be more reasonable and go shittalk starship and not the girls
EXACTLY
These C-netz need to do a lot of reading before commenting 💀
the artist of the mv studied art in china. she took ideas from the culture, used it in the mv and now clueless people are calling it “Korean”. Chinese people would have appreciated it if starship acknowledged the fact that it was inspired by china, but everyone is painting it as korean. Hate against Chinese people is real because when idols steal from black culture by doing braids everyone is hating but when idols steal from Chinese culture is “oh it’s rich coming from them”. Many Chinese things nowadays are getting rebranded as korean like tanghulu, malatang, nails, makeup, shops/brands etc. and even if they aren’t specified as “Korean”, the media has advertised and marketed these things as Korean (or japanese) and then everyone from the west believes it’s Korean because Korean culture is better than China in their eyes. IVE is not an isolated issue when it comes to Sinophobia, but is definitely fuelling the fire.
@@syntheticbeats7836 coming from the country that reverse engineers everything and then sells crap on temu....oh the hypocrisy from these caonima choubis
But C-netz didn't say anything when CHINA tried to claim the culture of the entire EAST-ASIA as theirs.....😅😅😅
They are just too much.
& Hating IVE for it is too much as the concept is not in their hand.
KOREA, JAPAN, VIETNAM AND CHINA ARE ALL A PART OF THE SINOSPHERE. The SINOSPHERE consists of countries that historically were heavily influenced by Chinese culture, norms and traditions. That is why there are so many similarities people!!!
seriously!
Let's not forget the most important Chinese invention that isn't noodles......COVID 19
Exactly!!
true although it was kinda partially influenced bu chinese culture like some ornaments did look similar but the prob why are they getting so offended ?
Similar doesn't mean completely the same,have you search what elements they use in the mv,？It's totally chinese staff,Korea keep use the influence of kpop,it is culture appropriation😅
But why tf do people even target wonyoung? Is she the producer ? Manager ? Starship owner ? Starship herself ? She WORKS in starship not own it. Now there is a limit of critisism, go to starships account or yt channel. Comment there. Why wonyoung ??
Wonyoung is such a super star people just cant leave her alone
Honestly. She is the IT girl right now and everyone is just jealous.
We all know that this always happens to the IT girls lol. It's not new. These jealous people get pissed off so easily@@sorntrash
c-netz are something else
It's not wonyoung's fault. Blame whoever came up with the concpet
IVE: “HEYA means sun in korean. The mv concept is based on the korean folklore or “tiger, sun and moon”. Plus the girls are wearing a hanbok design dress. Chinese netizens need to educate themselves first.
@loelds4817 frrr. Heya didn't even steal Chinese culture to start with. Even if there was chines culture, there was also Korean culture so there is nothing wrong with what IVE did. Chinese fans always ovvereact tbh. First it was tzuyu, then shuhua and now IVE. like they should calm down
the artist of the mv studied art in china. she took ideas from the culture, used it in the mv and now clueless people are calling it “Korean”. Chinese people would have appreciated it if starship acknowledged the fact that it was inspired by china, but everyone is painting it as korean. Hate against Chinese people is real because when idols steal from black culture by doing braids everyone is hating but when idols steal from Chinese culture is “oh it’s rich coming from them”. Many Chinese things nowadays are getting rebranded as korean like tanghulu, malatang, nails, makeup, shops/brands etc. and even if they aren’t specified as “Korean”, the media has advertised and marketed these things as Korean (or japanese) and then everyone from the west believes it’s Korean because Korean culture is better than China in their eyes. IVE is not an isolated issue when it comes to Sinophobia, but is definitely fuelling the fire.
@@loelds4817do you really know what you say idiot😅 you need more educate, please check every single element appear in the MV, none of them belong to Korea😊
@@loelds4817? It’s not the hanbok but the art if you see the Mv. If you used it ok! No problem. BUT if you CLAIMED it as your countrys history (idk how to explain it) that’s WRONG
Why does Noone leave wonyoung aloneeee
istg it's always her
@@stanloonaot12ordie ikrrrrr
Any excuse is good for criticizing Wongyoung...but yet they're still talking about her
People are so imature and dumb.
Those comments are from a small number of people who are already hating on IVE and Korean anyway, majority of mainlanders don't even pay attention to the issue and the sales for MiuMiu is going strong. Those people from 'original' culture needs to learn about cultural assimilation and what happened when you made other group of people believe your belief.
stealing culture??? wtf
What they're saying is cultural appropriation.
@@vickylin3468 I know.. it's just crazy to agree with this shit
@@vickylin3468 did ive did something ? on the new mv
omggg let wony have a break, it’s not like she controls what’s in the mv-
I’m honestly just impressed by Wonyoung’s influence. Her name is on everybody’s lips even when she’s literally just breathing and that’s so crazy to me
wonyoung is the Kpop IT Girl. no one will ever replace her haha . all haters gonna hate but wonyoung is the most famous of all
So stupid. Did they forget they forced their culture onto Korea? So therefore it also became Korea's culture. Smh.
Ok China they don’t mind that they share BUT when Korea start claiming that it is theirs, Korea has crossed the freaking line. You see Japan they also share a history but Japan they sorta reshape it(?) until you would definitely see the difference. But Korea they don’t they just use it as their own, which is the part that makes China fans mad.
@@whattareyoudoing You can claim covid but not this lol
@@Whatchalookinattt why can't we claim smt that already belongs to us. if your smart you'll understand
@@whattareyoudoing Coz it is ours lol. What do you expect? It’s Korean, so it’s Korean. Are all gothic style buildings Spanish? No. Because Europe shared a similar culture. Same here. It’s oriental, East Asian theme that we commonly share between Korea Japan and China.
@@Whatchalookinattt my ass bro, for someone who openly stole others art you have alot of shit to say. Even IF we commonly share a history, doesn't mean that you have the right to take smt that belonged to chinese art as your own . you can use it BUT YOU SHOULD NEVER FUGDING CLAIM IT AS YOUR OWN. Tanghulu suddenly became a KOREAN food when it's chinese. You korean did't even deny it was korean and continue saying it was korean. 🐶💩
oh !! this comment section…
RIGHTTT ??? 😭
Bro i can’t with the Sinophobia people are not even trying to hide it 💀
Chinese hates thieves?, bit brave coming from them🙄
? You should probably search up abit more yeah……
Chinese hates themselves. they are a big bunch of thieves to be honest.😂 Even islands, they claimed it although its not their property.
I wanna know what job these haters have where they can afford Miu Miu and also have enough free time to care about stuff like this also. It must not be a very interesting job lol
the artist of the mv studied art in china. she took ideas from the culture, used it in the mv and now clueless people are calling it “Korean”. Chinese people would have appreciated it if starship acknowledged the fact that it was inspired by china, but everyone is painting it as korean. Hate against Chinese people is real because when idols steal from black culture by doing braids everyone is hating but when idols steal from Chinese culture is “oh it’s rich coming from them”. Many Chinese things nowadays are getting rebranded as korean like tanghulu, malatang, nails, makeup, shops/brands etc. and even if they aren’t specified as “Korean”, the media has advertised and marketed these things as Korean (or japanese) and then everyone from the west believes it’s Korean because Korean culture is better than China in their eyes. IVE is not an isolated issue when it comes to Sinophobia, but is definitely fuelling the fire.
Chinese people steals islands from indonesia and Philippines, stop whining lol.
@@rinexorcist8081this is largely a cultural issue and not a political one. even Taiwanese people are agreeing that IVE has been stealing chinese culture which says a lot
THISSSSSSSS. Couldn't have said it better. I was happy when i discovered kpop, i saw someone that looked similar to me on big stages, etc. Now it's kinda something i lowkey dislike. I like the music, but i end up disliking it a bit because of everything being labelled korean. A chinese trend/famous snack, now it's korean to all the kpop stans. You try to say it's chinese, but then ppl just start saying ur a ccp bot. It's insane how some people think. I'm sick of it honestly. There's something wrong when every thing is just labelled korean or japanese.
We made it popular. Korea never claimed in it was Korean. You guys are actually shit at promoting your own culture. When the Chinese promote it, people hate it. That’s your fault not koreas. Ramen is Chinese food, but who made it popular? The Japanese did. It’s because Chinese quality is low grade and lack luster. You can only blame yourselves for your own failure. But the Chinese are communists and the cultural revolution destroyed it, blame yourselves.
Woah.. the Chinese hate thieves? That's brave coming from them 😂
Yea😂country of thieves
True. As if they didnt steal everything. Even islands they steal it furiously. Such a big bunch of idiots, and covid starter country. 😂😂
Yeah the chinese are the thieves themselves
People just like to hate on her, even if she breathes it’s like the whole world’s gonna end
yall its called concept...
…….and does a concept include stealing other’s history or culture as your own?
It is chinese culture, but this time it has nothing to do with the actual members, rather its the designs team fault for not being able to bring out actual korean culture for the MV. Shame on starship, and they're not doing anything in this situation either.
Since when was the hanbok and korean folklore art “tiger sun and moon” Chinese culture? Did chinese people used to be korean?
@@loelds4817 Not the hanbok, there were other various Chinese culture in the mv. Watch her other video and you'll see what im talking about. Besides, the Hanbok IS an inspiration from the Chinese Hanfu, if you didn't know they colonised them way back during the Han dynasty(not exactly sure when). There you have it.
the ive members themselves explicitly names chinese culture features as korean
@@syntheticbeats7836 no way, fr,,,???
@@Eunseokswife why would chinese netizens be irritated then? People don't have a problem with chinese culture being used in the music video. for example, svt's super have clearly stated that they took inspo from jurney to the west, but ive advertised chinese culture as korean, which is blatant theft
didnt they call them “thieves”?? if so thats a bit brave coming from them
What does rhat mean
@@DittoItzy-mz6lsbecause china make cheap copy for everything
@@DittoItzy-mz6ls I think it's because China is known for copying and stealing that's why you have cheap, China-made products. They even steal islands 🙃
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@@DittoItzy-mz6lsit means they were so brave telling they hate thieves as if they didnt steal evrything. Even other country's island which are not their property, they claimed it. Such a big bunch of thieves ,😂😂
IVE: “HEYA means sun in korean. The mv concept is based on the korean folklore or “tiger, sun and moon”. Plus the girls are wearing a hanbok design dress. Chinese netizens need to educate themselves first.
You have to educate yourself first.
What tigers? I’m pretty sure there are no more wild tigers left in Korea.
You learnt the word hanbok and suddenly became so knowledgable about the differences between Korean and Chinese culture. Kpop groups have been doing Korean inspired concepts for a while and there was never an issue because the actual Koreans and Chinese can distinguish them. The fact here is that Starship DID use really representative Chinese elements and called it a day. Stop thinking you know it all about a 5000 year civilization
Why is it Wonyoung's fault it's the people who put in the Chinese instead of Korean 😭😭😭💔💔
It’s not Chinese culture anyways, it’s just nationalists trying to claim all of it as theirs
But its not chinese, its korean.
Actually, that's Korean things... not chinese💀
@@loelds4817 that's what I meant to say
the ive members themselves explicitly names chinese culture features as korean
It's not fair that they are targeting Wonyoung instead of the creative director of the concept... who had travelled to China and gathered inspo from it... the clouds are definitely chinese, not korean.
Cultural appreciation is fine, but claiming obvious cultural items and art that is not korean to be korean is NOT. I wish people would just get the point first, instead of hurling racist comments towards chinese people for being angry that their own culture is being claimed as korean.
Imagine if korean people claimed the kimono to be theirs... The Japanese would not be happy about that at all... But because foreigners have a better like for anything Japanese, I doubt they would receive the same ignorant comments telling them that they should go and 'educate' themselves.
Leave her alone she did nothing wrong I mean do they want to drive her to do something drastic to herself would that be enough for them!!!
Some Chinese netizens are even saying that the hanbok and kimono are “Chinese dresses” because silk came from china. Bruh, are they nuts? Then chinese people shouldn’t wear cotton or denim and call it “chinese fashion”.
Kimono and Hanbok originated from Hanfu,but no one said they are hanfu.Please do not create lies
@@caexo_o I even heard that kpop, spaghetti and jesus originated from china according to Chinese netizens. You’re the one creating lies.
@@loelds4817 OMG！！I heard this statement for the first time，There is almost no Christianity in China，We don't care about Jesus，You have this idea，It indicates that you have been coveting the origin of Jesus for a long time，Are you trying to steal the origin of Jesus？
@@loelds4817 OMG！！！！There is almost no Christianity in China,we don't care about Jesus,You have this idea,it means you've been coveting it for a long time,Are you trying to steal the origin of Jesus？
@@caexo_o the only thing to come out of china of value is the great wall.......and cooooooovvveeeeed 19
Yk she’s a queen when they try to find every single tiny reason to hate her
The irony of chinese ppl saying “we don’t like thieves”
How is it ironic?
@@bearblob7036 In the Philippines, we're having hard time here because of Chinese coast guards. They're basically stealing our ocean. So, for me, it is ironic.
@@lovesleah._.3 I understand the frustrations regarding the situation in the South China Sea. However, it’s important to consider that China has historical claims to these waters, which are based on centuries of documented presence and use. China believes it is protecting its rightful territories and securing vital resources for its large population.
Moreover, China has repeatedly expressed a desire for bilateral negotiations to resolve these disputes peacefully and cooperatively, aiming to find solutions that respect the interests of all involved parties.
@@bearblob7036cause china is „famous“ for faking and producing products that are knock offs from something else, mostly wealthy western brands, now unlike many think it is also illegal to do that there(as long as in China the trademark is also protected there.) But the controls and the measures that are then taken are very vague, which is why so many fake things are produced in China.
So it's ironic when the Chinese say they don't like thieves.
Unfortunately, the country is known abroad for "stealing" things, which of course isn’t the fault of every individual Chinese citizen, but we can apply that to every stereotype of a country.
@@bearblob7036 wdym peacefully, they sprayed water on Philippine boats to chase them away and started putting barrier's around so that fishermen wouldn't be able to fish and make a living
China's resources are diminishing so they started claiming land expecting the country to just Agree with it.
We have proof of the barriers and spraying water btw
Theyre such lowlifes. They should go email whoever made the mv or whatever they are mad at. What is Wonyoung or Miu Miu going to do. And Boo hoo Miu Miu a multimillion company is not crying over some troll comments😂
How tf do you steal a culture??
by naming items/features and advertising them as korean. the ive members themselves explicitly names chinese culture features as korean
@@syntheticbeats7836have you apologised for COVID 19 yet?
@@nghiango1655have you apologized for Spanish flu or the plague of Justinian yet? Mind you these have more death tolls than covid.
@@bee5758 I'll apologise if you apologise chairman mao
@@nghiango1655 seems you also lack comprehension skills you talked about apologizing first and those plagues happened way before COVID so y’all have to apologize first either way , I don’t have to be Chinese to have common sense which is something that’s in decline these days so sad for you
wonyoung definately does not deserve the hate she is receiving but i really wish people would stop labelling chinese fans as "sensitive" or "overreacting" in this situation because their culture was literally appropriated. of course its true that Korean culture shares a number of similarities with Chinese culture, but in this situation ive used numerous elements of Chinese culture and labelled them all as Korean (baoshan fan, opium pipe, old beijing shoes, Chinese knot, Chinese clouds, etc). i know damn well that if it was any other culture you guys would be fucking pissed but because the culture being appropriated is Chinese, everyone turns a blind eye...
As if Chinese companies like CASETiFY, TEMU, SHEIN don't steal designs from small business all around the world and As if China didn't colonise Korea and enforce all their customs
Why are yall saying "thats brave coming from chinese people" why are you being racist like that and I understand that you guys arent with them but still let them be
They arent being racist. They are just calling how the chinese people are hypocrites and assholes. When them selves steal and be racist to others
Chinese netizens are the ones being racist first leaving hate comments against wonyoung and koreans. Let them be? Are you serious?
the only culture china has is communism - long live mao and Xi
Isn't it true tho?
@@heartforall5853no youre just a fkn sinophobe😭
Chinese people said they hate thieves? lol
Considering China takes so much influence from south korean pop culture and others today, it’s rather hypocritical they are criticizing anyone about copying.
It is really ironic, as if they didnt steal islands from other countries. 😂😂
Chinese fans been brutal lately 😂
Considering China takes so much influence from south korean pop culture and others today, it’s rather hypocritical they are criticizing anyone about copying.
Like, are we ok? Chinese culture IS Korean culture. Chinese culture IS East Asian culture. Chinese culture is and will always be intermingled with any other East Asian culture. Like, did we forget how much area several Chinese and Mongolian dynasties ruled? Did we forget for how long and how many times what we know as Korea today was under Chinese rule? Buddhism exists in Korea because of China. They used Chinese writing until the 1400s when Hangul was invented. Sounds like education is lacking in a lot of places. This is so stupid.
no.. but close
@@vejkegle ???
@seveteensBIGGESTfanIt’s true but semantics and little details matter a lot to some individuals of each of those countries. Namely the nationalistic ones. My boyfriend is Korean and he will get so mad if anyone ever names similarities between Chinese and Korean culture (not even saying which is better but even just anyone who compares). This is because he is very nationalistic Korean and he believes Korea to be superior to most East Asian countries in general for a lot of things. I’m Chinese btw 😂
i'm chinese and have done a lot of research on chinese, korean, japanese, etc. culture recently and in the past and there is definitely some similarities between these major east asian countries, but they're still individual countries. understandably, since many east asian countries were ruled by different dynasties of mongolia and china, they'll have similarities in things such as religion, similar regional holidays, traditions, and things like that which have been shared by these countries for centuries. however, that's not to say that they're exactly the same or that one culture is the same as another culture. there are cultural differences, including cuisine, clothing, language (including dialects, as each region within even a single country may have a different one), etc. putting them together and saying one is exactly like the other isn't true, as it seems you're doing here. that could be considered racism depending on who you ask, with a stereotype similar to "all look same" where people from the same or different countries are compared far too closely to one another that their differences are lost.
@@kpopiconicc well, it seems that all that research did not help you read and/or comprehend anything. I didn’t say even once they were the same. I said “Chinese culture is and will always be intermingled with East Asian culture”, if you don’t know what that means, then I suggest doing some reading.
It’s the same with the US and Latin America. European culture IS the Americas culture. It’s literally the basis of the current culture in the Americas. Just like indigenous culture IS American culture. And African culture IS American culture. All of these are the basis for cultures in the Americas. Same with Chinese culture in East Asia and even SEA.
WONYONG has the THE BEST FANBASE in China AMONG IDOL gen 4, almost 800.000 😅😂
they're mad they took INSPO from chinese culture ... how lifeless are these people jesus
People don't have a problem with chinese culture being used in the music video. for example, svt's super have clearly stated that they took inspo from jurney to the west, but ive advertised chinese culture as korean, which is blatant theft
@@syntheticbeats7836how's the invasion of Taiwan coming along,,? Winne Xi manage to convince any caonima soldiers to go yet?
Lmaoo Wonyoung is 1/4 Chinese, it's not wonyoung fault to have that kind of theme for their mv.
Her father is half Taiwanese. Wonyoung is probably having a laugh at all this nonsense.
@@loelds4817 her grandfather is chinese, wonyoung Chinese name is Zhang Yuanying
@@loelds4817 Wonyoung Grandfather is Chinese so i bet she is 1/4 chinese and her Chinese name is Zhang Yuanying
@@loelds4817 lol her grandfather is chinese her chinese name is Zhang Yuanying 👀
Jessussssss leave wonyoung for once my god!!! They were waiting for something like this to happen so can they throw it on this girl!!! Its soo sad we live in such a cruel world! 😪
In my opinion, they do have a right to be angry, and it acc does show quite a bit of racism from people when they claim that’s it’s not a big issue. The main reason you think this, if because they are both East Asian countries, and to those people, there is that much of a difference between e.g china, Korea and Japan. Like if this was done with black culture y’all would be raving. Some of these cnetz are overreacting tho, I don’t think it was ever claimed to be Korean culture, and it’s starships’s fault not Ive. Basically, people on both sides of this argument are not well informed enough, and are therefore reaching to the extremes
Wonyoung is the one receiving the backlash tho, ive too
@@w0esk yeah, but I personally think the backlash shouldn’t have to be directed towards them cos they haven’t consciously done anything wrong. Like they r doing their job. And whilst the c-netz do have a right to be angry, they r getting angry at the wrong people. They are targeting the followers not the leaders
i do think chinese ppl have the right to be upset over it, but not angry. china colonized korea for many years, so obviously they're gonna have many similarities, but being angry over it is just stupid. you can't colonize a country and then be upset when parts of your history get mixed with their history. also i don't think IVE or the company itself ever claimed to represent korean culture, it was mostly their fans who started spreading that idea around
@@shoshoshuffle oh that’s great to know abt the company not claiming it to be Korean! I’m sorry I was misinformed about that! I also totally get where you’re coming from, but the artistic director of the mv studied art in china, and used Chinese culture as a base for the mv(please do correct me if I’m wrong), so I guess they still have a right to be angry.
@@AmberMizuki-y9h idk abt the art director so i can't speak on that, but i still think anger to that extent is unnecessary. im talking from personal experience as i come from a country that was also colonized for centuries and now the colonizers want to claim everything (art, foods, myths etc) as theirs. i don't think you can bring things into a civilization and then get mad when those things become part of their culture. i can understand what you point is tho
funny how those chinese ppl are mainly blame everything on IVE but never blame whoever make and design the mv's concept
People are so petty istg
How the frick is this Wonyoung's fault?? (Side note, Wonyoung looks stunning.)
Isn't Instagram banned in china? Chinese netizens please leave Ive members alone.
they can use VPNs
They steal our culture，they said this is korea ，Why do you support bad people？
@@xyouji Wow the effort
When I thought that IVE were finally breathing and not getting hate anymore it starts again my girls can never catch a break
Nahh nah, Chinese don't want "thieves" but is okay in stealing another country's island. 😂😂😂 Also Wonyoung is still slaying as usual, this is just another Tuesday for her 😂
Stealing another countries land?? Such as?
Taiwan and Hongkong were originally from China search it up.
true! 😂
Honestly, I think some nobody is getting off on hating WonYoung and just keeps paying water armys (paid fake accounts) to write hate about her.
The worst thing that can happen to miu miu is to lose Chinese market
If they lose the Chinese market they are significantly done for, because foreign brands depended heavily on the Chinese market as they are the largest consumer of luxury products.
And the funny thing about Chinese netizens is that once they decide not to buy from you there is no going back even after an apology. Once cancelled, always canceled
we can't APPRECIATE other cultures now? heck, if other ethnicity used my culture as inspiration, i would be FLATTERED. why is everything an issue nowadays? it just seems so insecure of people.
Yes we can but it has to be done tastefully, but in this situation although, ur right. Ive appreciated Chinese culture at its finest. Luckily no over sexualization was present so I don’t understand the uproar.
R u kidding, we aren’t mad because they used our culture, we are mad because they said it was their culture.
But how would you feel if they claimed as their own?
It is a forever sickness of China that they own everything. They even steal anything just to remind us that they owned it. 😂
12 minutes ago is crazy 💀
as far as i know south korea and china share a lot of cultural aspects including food and art so idk why chinese people are so angry,, china has been a huge influence and impact for many east asian countries bc of trade and what not so idk why both koreans and chinese people get so pressed about the similarities between their cultures like babes your ancestors wanted that it’s not a big deal
You’re right. Like Ancient Rome to other European countries, ancient China as the cultural center of East Asian in the history has dramatically influenced many neighboring countries and regions over centuries, and consequently they share many cultural similarities nowadays, like Japan, and they all live in peace on that part. But why there’s always some intense controversy in terms of cultural heritage towards South Korean, that’s something really interesting to think about.
@@tian3127 why china is internationally renowned for “made in china” is also something to think about. Taiwan never has these issues with Korea. are taiwanese not chinese? 😄
I'm so lost cuz I didn't follow these updates recently but what are they even mad about? The name Miu Miu?
theyre mad that ive’s heya stole aspects of chinese culture? what 😭😭
Why do people waste their time with this sort of stuff?? Even if there are aspects from Chinese culture, deal with it and move on!! People are so sensitive about stuff like this
Guess they really don't like "thieves", they even made their own Eiffel tower 🤷🏻♀️
Clock itttt
Just like y’all stole cultural relics from Benin right
and steal several islands from Philippines. 😂 wtf.
Ignorant Ive💀💀
The hate towards wonyoung never stops.
I’m Chinese and I know about this but we love Wonyoung and they are still young we want them to grow up faster and get a better life we need to take care of them I never gonna stop liking Wonyoung
谢谢大家 Thx everyone
Thank you for being a mature fan. Please support wonyoung. She loves her chinese fans.
Chinese citizens aren't even supposed to buy foreign designer brands anyways
Finding many comments on one hand stressing China “colonized” Korean in history and on the other hand denying the cultural influence of ancient China on Korean is really hilarious.
Let me ask how often do you ever find silk fans (in all shapes) in Korean historical dramas? Almost never. And suddenly it showed up in a modern Kpop MV and became traditionally Korean? So funny.
Chinese dramas often portray students wearing the Korean school uniform “gyobok” and even the hanbok. Since when did Chinese students wear name tags, korean crop cut blouse and non pleated chima to school? Everyone knows Chinese students wear trainers in real life.
Do you actually consider dramas as culturally and historically accurate?
Please educate yourself first. You are looking like another racist troll.
Chinese dramas always portray students wearing korean school uniforms like the gyobok and even the hanbok.
Since when did Chinese students wear name tags, korean crop cut blouse and non pleated chima to school? Everyone knows Chinese students wear trainers.
Do you think dramas are culturally and historically accurate? Please educate yourself because you look dumb as hell.
It's like these people never studied any history...
If a K-pop group “stole” my culture and put it into their music video I would be the happiest person alive 😭😭
stealing without getting credit isn’t something to be happy about
That doesnt mean people of China should be loving it too... There's A LOT of history between them.
acting as if your opinion matters for everyone of chinese culture…it doesn’t.
That's cringe. Kpop isn't godly, it's not a blessing if they steal something.
Weird asf take
I had no clue WonYoung held the position of “Designer” of Starship Company.
Atp they're overreacting n are just looking for reasons to hate on them ngl
The cultural symbols thieving thing was done to BlackPink too even though Lisa is from that country, she had to apologize
It's funny how ONLY brands that work with Wonyoung that got boycotted, not even Yujin..
So atp they just find any excuses to hating this girl lol, give her a breakkk
They always hate Wonyoung for such a dumb reasons. Goddamn it, leave her alone it's not her fault and what is even 'i HaTe ThIeVeS??'
Just trying to explain to those who don’t understand why “stealing culture” is a thing.
Koreans claim many cultural heritages as their own even if it is certainly not. Examples include but not limited to: claiming Confucius as Korean, claiming they invent dragon boat festival, cropping and using images of Hanfu as propaganda for Hanbok (which comes from hanfu) and the “beautiful korean culture”and many other cultures that originate from China as originating from Korea and terming the items as “traditional korean”. And Chinese people since they pretty much have their own social media apps so they won’t see what koreans are doing on western social media and applying to UNESCO.
YES. East Asia have similar or partly-shared culture, but this is mostly based on China which has been spreading culture to these other regions for thousands of years and places like Korea learned and adopted the culture rather than inventing them themselves. If you still don’t understand, just think of UK or France or any other country of western civilization claiming they own and invent the ancient roman art and architecture and saying Aristotle is British or French, or American people saying they invent pizza. Hope yah know what i meant now😅
So, concerning the cultural stealing in the M/V, China and Korea have always seemed to have this disagreement about whether something is inherently from one culture or the other. For example: historical myths, medicine, and clothing are often debated between the countries. China says Korea stole from their culture and saying that it's "actually Chinese," and then Korea will state that it's a tradition in Korea as a rebuttal. This is just something I've noticed, regardless of IVE's position as it's happened prior to IVE as well.
It's not the citizen's fault (or the group in those case) of what it's taught to know or do. It's the teacher/government's responsibility to inform the citizen. So, if Starship was trying to misappropriate Chinese culture, then Starship is at fault and IVE is innocent unless they were knowingly doing this.
However, anthropological speaking, historical recollections of myths and stories are often similar in different parts of the world. Like how a lot of Shonen anime reference Journey to the West (a Chinese epic). Or how imperialism, feudalism, and colonization will ultimately reshape how one tells their own history. So, there may be a little truth here, but we cannot say for certain.
ABOUT THE DESIGNS IN HEYA, I think they were pretty Chinese (although the two countries share a lot of culture), but I think the problem lies where Starship people are like, “acktuallie, it’s korean”. Maybe if they just acknowledged that they ARE ACTUALLY CHINESE, then, Wonyoung wouldn’t have to be called names like this and the members would have caught a break 😀
As a Korean, it’s Korean.
@@Whatchalookinatttyea fr the tiger, the hair accessories, and the concept with the sun itself is very Korean. I don’t expect much from Chinese ppl cuz some accused us of stealing 한복 like wtf 🤦♀️
@@Whatchalookinatttyes all Korean 😂I heard a lots Japanese friends said Korean not only stealing from Chinese ...but Japanese too 🤣 seems like you guys got long-term stealing histories 😂？you know there are something called Wikipedia ？？Korean seems not only interested get face are cheated by plastic surgery 😂but seems everything 😂
@@rlagkdud0410i agree with the hanbok part. that’s korean. some of the stuff, the lines get blurry tho…
@@Whatchalookinatttofc you would say it Korean, now as a Chinese I would say AS A CHINESE, IT’S CHINESE
is so funny when delulu Chinese people get so mad at their neighbors for "stealing" "their" culture as if there wasn't a lot of similarities and differences between them... remember when they claimed taekwondo was Chinese because Korea comes from China or something like that? same thing here
It is also not surprising how they steal another country's islands. 😂
WONYOUNG 👏 DOES 👏 *NOT* 👏 HAVE 👏 A 👏 SAY 👏 IN 👏 THE 👏 MV 👏 SET👏
can y'all please let the poor girl breathe?
According to em they made pasta first, it wouldn't be wierd hearing em say that ngl but sadly no one dgafs especially us international fans ❤️
Isn't Wonyoung half Chinese ?
Stream Blue Heart to pay respects
This is crazy
China hates when others steal? Thats ironic 😂
K-pop drama is so sillyyyyy
Comments about cultural appropriation are often hypocritical. Like, you want a certain culture to be promoted and recognized but, once it is enjoyed and appreciated by people from other cultures to the point where they want to make it a part of their lives, you call them thieves.
Keep your Chinese culture to yourself and don’t listen di K-Pop, then!
People don't have a problem with chinese culture being used in the music video. for example, svt's super have clearly stated that they took inspo from jurney to the west, but ive advertised chinese culture as korean, which is blatant theft
@@syntheticbeats7836 And how exactly did IVE “advertise” the Chinese culture in question as Korean?
@@mr.tawakalplease do research on the art they used in the mv, and you will have answers
@@whattareyoudoing I don’t need an answer because I didn’t ask a question.
@@mr.tawakalYujin explicitly stated that the comeback was based off Korean culture and style, with no mentions of Chinese culture. This sentence isn’t wrong as there are Korean elements as well, but making it all about Korean culture and speaking nothing about Chinese culture when several Chinese elements were used in the MV, members’ outfits and comeback stage set is not alright. If Starship or the members had said one sentence about the MV being inspired by Chinese culture, Chinese people would have praised IVE a lot, but they did not.
Idk a thing about Chinese/South Korean cultural crossover, but I do know that China has plenty of options over Miu Miu, like Temu and Aliexpress, where "original" Chinese designs abound 😅
I think what people are mad about it’s not them using the concept, but it’s the fact that it is stated as Korean traditional style, when most of it is influenced by ancient china. This will confuse people who are not really familiar with Asian culture and make them think that these are truly solely Korean style. tbh although I’m Chinese myself but I am not that familiar with the difference, but I’m just summarizing what I’ve seen online. Judging by the comments around this topic, although both side have irrational people, I do tend to see a lot of Korean netizens who refuses to give any credit to china. We all understand that similarity lies within the different cultures but this feels like plagiarism in a way since china is not addressed and credited at all for the elements.
100%, that's why many chinese netizens are upset is because it's stated as korean culture, but when it really has chinese elements.
WHY oh why do china always claim korean culture as their own?? Its tiring to see chinese oppressing korean culture for like a million times
My girl Wonyoung cant have a break from this toxic ppl who wanna see her downfall 💀little they know they paying her rent by commenting on her social medias
Haya😂
Its giving SINOCENTRISM 🤧
Isn't Korea was colonize by China in the past? Second thing its not ive fault its there agency faults . People or Chinese netizens should criticize their agency not ive.
Their voices compliment each other so well I love this 💗🔥
HOW IS IT WONYOUNG FAULT😭
Is ive only consist of wonyoung why only wonyoung?
Kpop fans are dramatic asf
Are they Taiwanese or Hong Kongers or Singaporeans or the mainland Chinese?
Only Mainland chinese are like this. Thats why it’s obvious they are really brainwashed.