@@zaq8205 Yeah, you have plenty upgrades right from a basic ECU flash to bigger turbo and intercooler, intakes, exhausts and more. How I wish the Jetta diesel makes a comeback.
You can't compare the city and civic, two different segments, but most importantly, the civic is a global car whilst the city was aimed at southeast Asian markets
Having personally worked at Honda facility in Noida it is just so heart breaking so see such a thing happen to a newly launched model. I think this would be one of the shortest lifecycle of a car from production to discontinuation. I was actually working on the setup of the new production line for the Civic and now after a few years, I am hearing everything just got shoutdown.. Very sad but somewhat foreseeable.
I bought this car Petrol Automatic in September 19 . The car build quality is really good. Handling is superb. CVT is smooth for city drive and good for highways once you get used to it. Civic is BS6 with 5 star safety.The main reason for discontinue is Indian public these days want any" dubba" named SUV. Car manufacturers are selling hatchbacks with high heels with zero safety named as suv and people are buying them. India is not Market for quality cars.
Yesterday I went to Honda dealership near me to do Service of my 5th Gen Honda city.. I love Honda Cars India but the Coincidence is the points you have mentioned about civic is same to Wrv,City,jazz,crv,etc I exactly discussed same points with my sales executive.. 1)Wrv is such a outdated car with no turbo engine..and misses lot of features.. Competition in Compact suv segment is going on next level..but still people r buying wrv,1000+ units honda is selling of wrv only because of Honda Name and its reliability 2)Jazz- When i discussed about jazz with honda's sales executive he said "There is such a disappointment seeling Jazz standing in showroom..even When i see jazz in showroom I feel demotivated..." Literally his talk hurt me as a honda cars india lover 3) Civic - He said that his whole team were in shock when honda announced discontinuation of Civic..such a beauty Civic is.. Ps- After going back to home when my city's service was done I took Civic's remaining brochure with me so as to remember this beauty forever and collected this brochure for collection for future Becoz I love Civic and everyone loves it Crv - Worlds best selling car discountinued in India..becoz we indians are exceptional and follows bhed chal..honda should had reduced the price of crv..as they were giving 5-6 lacs rs discount Amaze - its is selling in good numbers but need more features like projector headlamps,better touch screen, interiors etc City - Above points you have mentioned in video is correct but there is no overall good practical mid size sedan other than city Verna lacks rear seat space,Vento and rapid are decade old..only enthusiast people buys it,Yaris does not look good etc competition..every car has its pros and cons..Still City is the best in Segment Moral: Honda should improve its portfolio and launch newers cars like Hrv which Creta Rival,Zrv in compact sedan etc if they really want to survive in 3rd largest car manufacturer market which is india..Else We had seen examples like Chevrolet leave indian car market and ford is also doing the same and we dont want Honda to do the same..so Change the indian ceo of honda cars india and do experiments because doing experiments can change your life... So, this was my personal suggestion for honda cars india and gagan sir if you can forward this comment to honda cars india as a feedback please send.. Thanks!
I really want this So called SUV trend to die soon...Sedan looks better and drives better and have almost all the practicality of a SUV minus the Ground clearance...
@@anuragmtr131 cars are meant for space/comfort/practicality/ good shaped boot where space can be properly utilised/mild off roaring (keeping in mind 90 percent of Indian roads), can take a beating during accident (solid build quality) can pass through decent levels of water( problem with most of India during rains)
Well soon all Sedans production gonna discontinue. Everyone wanna buy SUVs as the road quality has gone so down. It just ruin the fun of driving a Sedan.
I think then u have not driven on highways. Now a days highways are superb and sedans just glide over it. Recently I finished bangalore to kanyakumari and managed almost 20km/l on highway.
people are buying SUVs only because of roads;nobody who buys a car for commuting wants to pay a premium for lower fuel mileage but our roads just make it unreasonable to drive a good sedan
@@ukisbeggar8462 that has to do with the record number of immigrants moving to canada. Educated financially prudent immigrants buy hondas because they are reliable and longlasting machines. Also the price delta isnt as high as it is in india
Most owners wont go from city -> civic , coz city was good in every way and civic was not good choice to upgrade . Honda want more profit with minimal effort . and not the least they are always late to join . They will launch the hrv but when they launch the segment goes to the next level , I think Honda should go back to drawing board on how & where is the segment to go ! If they do , then thats a ❤️🙏
as a city owner i agree, but civic s build quality is in a different league. i would never get a new city over my 2011, although the 2021 looks promising.,
Make a video on How Manufacturers are selling crossovers like creta,seltos,venue,sonet and they r naming them as suvs Thats why Sedans market are going down But these crossovers cant able to match the level of sedans
@@ShashankD137 kids buying cars these days will not get this, they go gaga over 'compact SUVs' and are killing the sedan segment in the country. it seems only people who are mature enough, buy sedans today
Let's just say you dodged a bullet! I remember I think in early 2019 one of the senior managers in our company bought a civic. We were like wow! He must feel really lousy now. Granted buying a seltos or a Harrier might not give you that Stand Out factor because everyone has one. But being too unique is also not a good thing! 😁
@@juliusdaviesd no I didn’t go that deep into the merits or demerits of the car ... it’s just I always saw it a flawless design like a man standing out in between bullies . Kind of timeless coupe designs !!
@@xp5158 may be honda can't meet the demand for civic and left. Germany dominates luxury all over the world, middleclass in Latin, EU, China and South America. Japan dominates middle class in Asia and USA. Simple as that.
I own 5th Gen Honda City and yes Skoda and VW are loosers in India, they haven't launched a single new car in last 12 years, Honda has atleast launced 5 new cars in That period 😂
WORKING in UAE.. life's first ever car.. HONDA CIVIC .. my daily driver here. Proud owner..❤️ SADLY the points mentioned in video are to the point .. this is soon going to be the story of most SADAN in INDIA
*Civic is legendary but the price killed it, plus we had very limited options with civic and hence it was killed* *2ndry SUV segment is booming but the sedan segment is dying and at that cost esp*
I would like to see such an analysis of Skoda Octavia as it is one of the most popular sedans of all time and I am planning to buy a new-gen model as well. This car is a love for enthusiast drivers, it would really be interesting to see the background, like the one in this video, of Octavia.
Creta , compact suv segment price starts at 10 lakhs, while Civic and similar segment price starts at 17-18 lakh. I don’t even get why you’re comparing them both. A better comparison would be the likes of Jeep Compass. Also, with a high turning radius of 5.85, it can never be an enthusiast car. Even a big ass 5 series and E class has smaller turning radius than Civic, and they’re supposed to be chauffeured
People are buying SUVs only because of roads;nobody who buys a car for commuting wants to pay a premium for lower fuel mileage but our roads just make it unreasonable to drive a good sedan
1. Petrol manual and diesel AT (9speed one from C-RV) 2. Ventilated seats 3. Features like wireless charging, a better and bigger infotainment, etc 4. 1.5l Turbo petrol (atleast one variant) 5. Most important heavy localisation I feel these factors could have made big sales number as it was leading in its segment
There was a time where SUVs were considered for douchbags. Especially as a date car with a woman on the passenger seat. Sedans were the enthusiasts choice of car because of the control and driving fun which is impossible to execute on an Suv. I still live in that time. I still think SUVs suck as far as driving pleasure goes. Also, the wannabe SUVs are the most horrid things to my eyes. But apparently the entire country seems to dig it. I think of SUVs as baba Ram Raheem. Just because a billion people worship him doesn't make him cool. SUVs are still redundant for driving enthusiasts. Also, not very comfortable for the woman passenger that you wanna open the door for and cruise around with.
As a Honda owner I must say Honda has got the saddest line up of all the manufacturers! They discontinued the brio which wasn't half bad. The new amaze is the ugliest car I've seen in my life. It looks like it was already in an accident. And looks like some old premier pal car. My jazz is really boring and now they're going to destroy their premium hatchback segment with the new clown car jazz they have planned. Wrv is a complete joke. Basically Honda has no compact SUV in India, shocking! The new city is ok, nothing ground breaking. Bit boring. They have no mid SUV to compete with Creta. Civics has become 'History!'. The CRV is boring compared to all the 20lac SUVs and is way over priced. Basically Honda is shooting themself in the foot. The Toyota overconfidence has consumed them. They will go the way of Sony TV's and Phones. They lack the aggressive killer designs of the Koreans. Whenever they release the mid SUV HRV it will be too late. It already looks like a 2009 design. In no time, Honda is going to be a Honda City only company. Like Ford and it's cash cow EcoSport.
I had to make a choice between the Octavia 1.8TSi and Civic 1.8 back in early 2020. The Civic’s underpowered engine and mediocre interiors overshadowed the brilliant chassis and exciting exterior design. I went with the Octavia 1.8TSi
Infrastructure doesn't favor premium sedan segment in india. In fact, the road conditions are not favorable for any sedan car in india. I drive city but the day I think of driving to the little outskirts, I dont have the confidence to get my car back home in the same state as I started it with. This is how I feel in a small town and this would be true to any other town of the country I'm sure.
I own the new civic that I bought soon after the lockdown in August 2020, I must say even though the engine/ transmission combo could have been better by offering manual, it is every bit a driver’s delight. The handling around corners, the driving dynamics, I am in love with it! Feel sad that in India 90% are SUV lovers, but I love the fact that now it’s a niche car & now the brand recall is obvious in the second hand market just like the old 1st gen Civic or Octavia does have! I’m still my Civic lover, coz the pleasure of driving it! ❤️👍
I own one and I know no SUV and even German cars cannot match the value for money car this Civic is. Audi A3 selling for 40 lakhs, A4 for 50 lakhs and looks like dead stock in front of the new civic. I saw the cretas interiors and it make me feel like a 5 lakh car. Sad that the name SUVs have created a illusion
Honda's strategy in India is all over the place. Their product timing across all segments has also be flawed. Inspite of having some great quality products, pricing vs features was never really their strength. Now they have left with just one product, which is the City to drive their volumes. Sad!!
Agree with your points on almost similarities between City and Civic, a) performance b) looks c) interior features. I too am sad of Civic departure again as it (First gen in India) was my favorite in D segment!🙁
Honda will leave India soon. Honda cars are expensive but the quality is like Maruthi it's nowhere close to what it offers on abroad, NVH levels are also piss poor. It's not a leader in safety as well. There is no reason to choose Honda cars.
This is the most balanced review yet. He has put in such a crisp and clear manner that no one is even angry about the fact that the Civic is discontinued. But yes, the new car, even with its new-age design, could not compare much with the old car's driving excitement. I myself went to a Honda showroom with the old Civic to see whether I can get myself to buy the new car convincingly. Everything about the new car was fantastic till the time I pressed the accelerator pedal. I was a bit disappointed.
I am not sure how it was priced in India but this is essentially an entry-level . People buy it for its reliability not comfort not engine power. please research a little bit about the car's history.
Honda Killed the civic- 1.No turbo petrol- same 2006 engine 2.No diesel automatic. 3.No Petrol Manual. Lovely car gone too soon..... From a car maker for the Enthusiasts to a car maker for the masses,Honda is now losing in India, had it not been the City, it would have shut shop by now.
They should bring the new Civic RS now to the Indian market. Now the Indian market will once again start to turn towards sedans. I hope they will bring the prologue back in the future.
Space and practicality was a problem. The new civic has solved that with it more traditional car styling like WV . Honda should bring the latest to India
No one wants to spend 20 lakhs in a cvt Honda India would rather buy a compact or a full size suv Saloon car era is going dead and compact suv is taking their space
You hit the nail with the price to feature ratio regarding the city vs civic. I'd argue the civic had worse interiors, no space advantage at the back compared to the city and no luxurious appeal ala the Octavia vis a vis the Rapid.
What civic missed - Petrol manual Lacklustre and had dead Diesel engine Sunroof only in top variant Should have luxury features at this price point like auto park , ventilated seats , 360 camera Not that plush interiors Coupe slopping roof made the seating so low especially in the back seat where 6 feeters can’t sit
Could you please make one on the Ford Figo, stating how it fell out of the radar of buyers looking for a hatchback and how Ford really messed up the opportunity they had created with the first generation Figo.
CVT IN a 22 lakh car Underpowered engine Pricing The original civic was around 13 lakhs for the top end And now pricing is 22-23 lakhs price shot up by 60-70 percent I have owned a manual civic and drove it for 136000 kms 2011-2018 without any issues But spending 23 lakhs on the same experience it’s worthless
Civic was a good car but that 1.8 SOHC engine was a poor choice. I don't mind the CVT as it was a very good gearbox, but the engine was anemic and 1.5 turbo in the segment would have made a better choice. So was diesel engine, and while they got the job done; they never felt in the league of 1.8 TSI from Skoda. SUV onslaught has been killing all the sedans slowly irrespective of the segment they fall in, despite them being nowhere as nice to drive as sedans; thanks to our roads that little extra ground clearance becomes a necessity.
Honda is not moving with the trend. It doesn't give too many options in terms of engine and transmission. One engine with manual or cvt. No dct/dsg. Only 2-3 variants in terms of features. It is bound to be left behind.
I own a older gen civic that was launched in India and in my view the older car looked and drove better than the new one, the new one had the same R18 engine and no manual :-( the diesel was not to my liking as i dont prefer the NVH on diesel cars, i wish honda has given it better engine the chassis was nice it just needed an optional more powerful engine. How i wish honda has put the 1.5 Turbo with the manual in there :-) that would have been perfect for me as an upgrade but the car honda launched was very lack lusture.
Hey tushar i want your advice ? i am interested in buying a used 2013 honda civic 1.8v manual. Is it a good choice ? Are the airbags safe from that model & does it have ground clearance issue ? Also i would love to upsize the stock 195/65 15 tyre to 215/60 15 tyre is it upgradable or not ?
Honestly it's really sad to see the D segment sedans dying just because everyone wants a crossover SUV, but partly also becauseof the prices and the taxes. Most of the crossovers don't offer more space than a sedan, don't handle as well and also don't have the same boot space. The only thing they are good at is letting people flex in the name of "commanding driving position" imo, and maybe better features. But either way, it still gives me some hope in the Indian car market because with the rise of automatics it has still shown that it would still prefer a manual over an auto in cars like the Civic (apparently).
People here commenting overpriced . Only a real owner of civic knows how well it drives and feels at that price point . Even 30 Lacs would be justice to price if we compare it with its rivals (boring Altis , not good at handling Elantra and notoriously unreliable Octavia )
What I heard from Honda is they will not bring any car which will cost more than Rs 25. So no possibility for civic relaunch or CRV either, as there are no customer for this range of products. Rather they will bring HRV instead, the segment which is hot at this moment along with newer version of WRV and brio
The Indian civic car was a poor deal. It did not have a petrol manual, nor a turbo option which was available in other countries. So obviously the CVT was a huge disappointment
Honda in India thinks that they could sell anything here ,and still expect their every model to do well ........ Shame for being excessively ambitious Honda 👎👎👎👎
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Who killed the Honda Civic?
Answer : HONDA
GRILLED IT 😂
Very correct 👍🏽
Also octavia
Honda India
Its the public who run for beefed up hatch like creta n al..
The first civic was one of the most good looking car in Indian market
And one of the best one to modify too
still is
Still a proud owner
@@karan21615 am jealous.. it's a beauty
It still is
-Overpriced,
-underpowered
-Boring interiors
-Boring colour options
-Not any sports/turbo engine options.
Not just that, an un-sprited and a dead automatic gearbox
My Jetta also pretty much fits this boring thingy . But performance wise it is too good .. 200 kmph on highway like a breeze .
@@zaq8205 VWs can easily be modified both cosmetically and for performance. I assume that yours is a TDI and man oh man! They can be a modder delight
@@adityasundar324 🙂yes TDI .. do you mean performance mods ?
@@zaq8205 Yeah, you have plenty upgrades right from a basic ECU flash to bigger turbo and intercooler, intakes, exhausts and more. How I wish the Jetta diesel makes a comeback.
Honda themselves lol. Their bogus pricing strategy in a market where sedans are not in higg regard anyway.
As well as their car ground clearance is disastrouse
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@@vamneshlotlikar495 Bro you have no idea about Civic I guess😂😂
In India more than 50 % of cars MRP is tax, how can ckd cars survive lol
@@vamneshlotlikar495 I don't think you understand the basic idea behind the sedans.
This civic was my dream car .I've City top end .but civic is very gorgeous ❤️
Same here ! Sadly civic felt very dated except for its look, imo.
@@ManuB3581 Civic feels dated??😁😁
You can't compare the city and civic, two different segments, but most importantly, the civic is a global car whilst the city was aimed at southeast Asian markets
I wish they would've launched a petrol manual too, so I could've pick up a used one 5 years later for half the cost and tuned the hell out of it.
True that
so true
Having personally worked at Honda facility in Noida it is just so heart breaking so see such a thing happen to a newly launched model. I think this would be one of the shortest lifecycle of a car from production to discontinuation. I was actually working on the setup of the new production line for the Civic and now after a few years, I am hearing everything just got shoutdown.. Very sad but somewhat foreseeable.
Any upcoming suv from honda
@@surgeon8803 HRV
@@zgreflexking when? i think its just a rumor . honda is planning to bring city hybrid
We want the Civic back! Even an electric variant would do justice to the brilliant chassis.
that chasis is just pure gold.
Cant possible because only CVic and CRV hagers were available in Noida plant now honda require lot of investment for this hanger in Tapukara plant
I bought this car Petrol Automatic in September 19 . The car build quality is really good. Handling is superb. CVT is smooth for city drive and good for highways once you get used to it. Civic is BS6 with 5 star safety.The main reason for discontinue is Indian public these days want any" dubba" named SUV. Car manufacturers are selling hatchbacks with high heels with zero safety named as suv and people are buying them. India is not Market for quality cars.
Your last statement is so true, it hurts.
BS6 mentioned somewhere.?
@@johnwinglingabinesh7679 yes its bs6
Yesterday I went to Honda dealership near me to do Service of my 5th Gen Honda city..
I love Honda Cars India but the Coincidence is the points you have mentioned about civic is same to Wrv,City,jazz,crv,etc I exactly discussed same points with my sales executive..
1)Wrv is such a outdated car with no turbo engine..and misses lot of features.. Competition in Compact suv segment is going on next level..but still people r buying wrv,1000+ units honda is selling of wrv only because of Honda Name and its reliability
2)Jazz- When i discussed about jazz with honda's sales executive he said "There is such a disappointment seeling Jazz standing in showroom..even When i see jazz in showroom I feel demotivated..."
Literally his talk hurt me as a honda cars india lover
3) Civic - He said that his whole team were in shock when honda announced discontinuation of Civic..such a beauty Civic is..
Ps- After going back to home when my city's service was done I took Civic's remaining brochure with me so as to remember this beauty forever and collected this brochure for collection for future
Becoz I love Civic and everyone loves it
Crv - Worlds best selling car discountinued in India..becoz we indians are exceptional and follows bhed chal..honda should had reduced the price of crv..as they were giving 5-6 lacs rs discount
Amaze - its is selling in good numbers but need more features like projector headlamps,better touch screen, interiors etc
City - Above points you have mentioned in video is correct but there is no overall good practical mid size sedan other than city
Verna lacks rear seat space,Vento and rapid are decade old..only enthusiast people buys it,Yaris does not look good etc competition..every car has its pros and cons..Still City is the best in Segment
Moral: Honda should improve its portfolio and launch newers cars like Hrv which Creta Rival,Zrv in compact sedan etc if they really want to survive in 3rd largest car manufacturer market which is india..Else We had seen examples like Chevrolet leave indian car market and ford is also doing the same and we dont want Honda to do the same..so Change the indian ceo of honda cars india and do experiments because doing experiments can change your life...
So, this was my personal suggestion for honda cars india and gagan sir if you can forward this comment to honda cars india as a feedback please send..
Thanks!
Who killed the civic?
WE DID! Like se killed Punto Abarth. The D segment has just been aspirations, aspirations that never converted into a buy.
What i master peice it was ❤
Punto Abarth was just lit 🔥...
Dad owned a Fiat Punto , Palio the 1.8 l diesel was just lit 🔥🔥🔥
@Weasel Can't Swim #resignmodi
If a lot more % of the Indian road conditions were more than just average, cars like civic could stay longer. Civic & Corolla sell well overseas.
True, we need SUV's or at least SUV wannabes for Indian road conditions.
Civic and Corolla rule the segment overseas no other car comes even closure to them
toyot should relaunch the new gen corolla but as a hatchback instead of glanza
Lol Canada's roads are even worse. Still Civic is the best selling car here
@@ukisbeggar8462 you havent seen indian roads
Are you kidding us right now, this was just great. Of course we want more of such content! Great job!
Thanks alot Aniket Mishra . Like , share and subscribe
I really want this So called SUV trend to die soon...Sedan looks better and drives better and have almost all the practicality of a SUV minus the Ground clearance...
That is your opinion and a lot of people do not agree.
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Only drive and handling is better.. no other benefit
then cars are meant for what purpose
@@anuragmtr131 cars are meant for space/comfort/practicality/ good shaped boot where space can be properly utilised/mild off roaring (keeping in mind 90 percent of Indian roads), can take a beating during accident (solid build quality) can pass through decent levels of water( problem with most of India during rains)
Well soon all Sedans production gonna discontinue. Everyone wanna buy SUVs as the road quality has gone so down. It just ruin the fun of driving a Sedan.
I think then u have not driven on highways. Now a days highways are superb and sedans just glide over it. Recently I finished bangalore to kanyakumari and managed almost 20km/l on highway.
Vry true said
@@RollsRoyce2035 highways r nt available evrywhr
V need a car which cn move on highways as well as our indian pothole roads
Potholes are more felt in compact SUVs than sedans
@@arpangoyal1092 . Ji, is it really true , I'm planning to buy compact SUV , plz guide me can i go for a sedan car
One reason is our bad roads. How can you even forget them??
people are buying SUVs only because of roads;nobody who buys a car for commuting wants to pay a premium for lower fuel mileage but our roads just make it unreasonable to drive a good sedan
Lol Canada's roads are even worse. Still Civic is the best selling car here
@@ukisbeggar8462 that has to do with the record number of immigrants moving to canada. Educated financially prudent immigrants buy hondas because they are reliable and longlasting machines. Also the price delta isnt as high as it is in india
@@ukisbeggar8462 who said Canadian roads are bad?
@@ArchitTechBOYKaushik bro I live here i know the truth
Most owners wont go from city -> civic , coz city was good in every way and civic was not good choice to upgrade . Honda want more profit with minimal effort . and not the least they are always late to join . They will launch the hrv but when they launch the segment goes to the next level , I think Honda should go back to drawing board on how & where is the segment to go !
If they do , then thats a ❤️🙏
as a city owner i agree, but civic s build quality is in a different league. i would never get a new city over my 2011, although the 2021 looks promising.,
Honda's lack of confidence in Indian market and overpricing of it's cars are killing Honda cars in India.
Make a video on How Manufacturers are selling crossovers like creta,seltos,venue,sonet and they r naming them as suvs
Thats why Sedans market are going down
But these crossovers cant able to match the level of sedans
they are crossover hatchbacks, right?
💯 agree with u .. I prefer sedans and even hatchbacks to crossovers. And they are definitely not suvs!
@@ShashankD137 The charisma and aura of a Sedan is unmatched, it is timeless 😍😍
@@rksingh5571 also the driving experience. Sitting lower to the ground does tons for handling and they are usually lighter so more buck for the engine
@@ShashankD137 kids buying cars these days will not get this, they go gaga over 'compact SUVs' and are killing the sedan segment in the country.
it seems only people who are mature enough, buy sedans today
This was the car I wanted to buy despite plethora of tempting suvs around ... then this happened
Let's just say you dodged a bullet! I remember I think in early 2019 one of the senior managers in our company bought a civic. We were like wow!
He must feel really lousy now. Granted buying a seltos or a Harrier might not give you that Stand Out factor because everyone has one. But being too unique is also not a good thing! 😁
@@juliusdaviesd no I didn’t go that deep into the merits or demerits of the car ... it’s just I always saw it a flawless design like a man standing out in between bullies . Kind of timeless coupe designs !!
same with me... now I'm owning City
:') atleast you like good things, good to see that
Me too
One min silence for all honda fanboys who can't even buy an alto and say Octavia is a looser....
2min silence for those who blow kisses at euro trash (VAG) but end up playing safe and buying Japanese cars.
@@xp5158 may be honda can't meet the demand for civic and left.
Germany dominates luxury all over the world, middleclass in Latin, EU, China and South America. Japan dominates middle class in Asia and USA.
Simple as that.
@@xp5158 a person who buys Octavia can pay for its maintenance.
And yet the Civic was the only car in its segment with triple digit sales every month
I own 5th Gen Honda City and yes Skoda and VW are loosers in India, they haven't launched a single new car in last 12 years, Honda has atleast launced 5 new cars in That period 😂
WORKING in UAE.. life's first ever car.. HONDA CIVIC .. my daily driver here. Proud owner..❤️ SADLY the points mentioned in video are to the point .. this is soon going to be the story of most SADAN in INDIA
*Civic is legendary but the price killed it, plus we had very limited options with civic and hence it was killed*
*2ndry SUV segment is booming but the sedan segment is dying and at that cost esp*
New Gen Civic killed Corolla and after that it died too..
I've got the old civic and that girl is nothing short of a legend. Too good
I would like to see such an analysis of Skoda Octavia as it is one of the most popular sedans of all time and I am planning to buy a new-gen model as well. This car is a love for enthusiast drivers, it would really be interesting to see the background, like the one in this video, of Octavia.
I am Sure Honda will ReLaunch CIVIC with a better pertol (ofcourse mannual) engine...
Creta , compact suv segment price starts at 10 lakhs, while Civic and similar segment price starts at 17-18 lakh.
I don’t even get why you’re comparing them both.
A better comparison would be the likes of Jeep Compass.
Also, with a high turning radius of 5.85, it can never be an enthusiast car.
Even a big ass 5 series and E class has smaller turning radius than Civic, and they’re supposed to be chauffeured
Honda killed the civic.. brought the over pricing but no new engines and got a damp squab
I would any day buy a civic if I have that kind of money
You can still buy city
@@abhijiths7637 Still can't be compared to City
People are buying SUVs only because of roads;nobody who buys a car for commuting wants to pay a premium for lower fuel mileage but our roads just make it unreasonable to drive a good sedan
1. Petrol manual and diesel AT (9speed one from C-RV)
2. Ventilated seats
3. Features like wireless charging, a better and bigger infotainment, etc
4. 1.5l Turbo petrol (atleast one variant)
5. Most important heavy localisation
I feel these factors could have made big sales number as it was leading in its segment
Another video suggestion - Electric vehicle or hybrid? What is best?
I own new civic from 4 months and i tell you it can be compared to any imported German cars. Liquid suspension is like butter on the road.
Many cars lost their fame because of CVTs
There was a time where SUVs were considered for douchbags. Especially as a date car with a woman on the passenger seat.
Sedans were the enthusiasts choice of car because of the control and driving fun which is impossible to execute on an Suv.
I still live in that time. I still think SUVs suck as far as driving pleasure goes. Also, the wannabe SUVs are the most horrid things to my eyes. But apparently the entire country seems to dig it.
I think of SUVs as baba Ram Raheem. Just because a billion people worship him doesn't make him cool. SUVs are still redundant for driving enthusiasts. Also, not very comfortable for the woman passenger that you wanna open the door for and cruise around with.
We're same bro!
Sus Thar be like👀
As a Honda owner I must say Honda has got the saddest line up of all the manufacturers! They discontinued the brio which wasn't half bad. The new amaze is the ugliest car I've seen in my life. It looks like it was already in an accident. And looks like some old premier pal car.
My jazz is really boring and now they're going to destroy their premium hatchback segment with the new clown car jazz they have planned. Wrv is a complete joke. Basically Honda has no compact SUV in India, shocking!
The new city is ok, nothing ground breaking. Bit boring. They have no mid SUV to compete with Creta. Civics has become 'History!'.
The CRV is boring compared to all the 20lac SUVs and is way over priced. Basically Honda is shooting themself in the foot.
The Toyota overconfidence has consumed them. They will go the way of Sony TV's and Phones. They lack the aggressive killer designs of the Koreans. Whenever they release the mid SUV HRV it will be too late. It already looks like a 2009 design.
In no time, Honda is going to be a Honda City only company. Like Ford and it's cash cow EcoSport.
I had to make a choice between the Octavia 1.8TSi and Civic 1.8 back in early 2020. The Civic’s underpowered engine and mediocre interiors overshadowed the brilliant chassis and exciting exterior design.
I went with the Octavia 1.8TSi
Infrastructure doesn't favor premium sedan segment in india. In fact, the road conditions are not favorable for any sedan car in india. I drive city but the day I think of driving to the little outskirts, I dont have the confidence to get my car back home in the same state as I started it with. This is how I feel in a small town and this would be true to any other town of the country I'm sure.
Hope we get an improved civic with :
Better pricing
Powerful engine
Better marketing strategy
The fun, cool car that is used to be !
I dont know what people think or know about SUVs but i have always personally liked sedans more than SUVs
I own the new civic that I bought soon after the lockdown in August 2020, I must say even though the engine/ transmission combo could have been better by offering manual, it is every bit a driver’s delight. The handling around corners, the driving dynamics, I am in love with it! Feel sad that in India 90% are SUV lovers, but I love the fact that now it’s a niche car & now the brand recall is obvious in the second hand market just like the old 1st gen Civic or Octavia does have! I’m still my Civic lover, coz the pleasure of driving it! ❤️👍
I prefer sedans over suv
Truly agree with you , even i have civic...... the new one
I own one and I know no SUV and even German cars cannot match the value for money car this Civic is. Audi A3 selling for 40 lakhs, A4 for 50 lakhs and looks like dead stock in front of the new civic. I saw the cretas interiors and it make me feel like a 5 lakh car. Sad that the name SUVs have created a illusion
Honda's strategy in India is all over the place. Their product timing across all segments has also be flawed.
Inspite of having some great quality products, pricing vs features was never really their strength.
Now they have left with just one product, which is the City to drive their volumes. Sad!!
We want this beauty back please 🥺
One look at the jarring chrome clad front fascia, I told myself ‘ shucks, the old one looked so much better’. Gaudy design. Great car.
LOL They made CITY soo good that it killed the CIVIC market.
Makes Sense TBH
Agree with your points on almost similarities between City and Civic,
a) performance b) looks c) interior features.
I too am sad of Civic departure again as it (First gen in India) was my favorite in D segment!🙁
They don't talk about cretas, seltoss' and Hectors and Harriers but they do about 'civic'. Civic is on a whole other league .
Honda will leave India soon. Honda cars are expensive but the quality is like Maruthi it's nowhere close to what it offers on abroad, NVH levels are also piss poor. It's not a leader in safety as well. There is no reason to choose Honda cars.
Don't care bout the civic
But I do miss the CRV
Will now have to increase my budget to buy a Merc GLE for my parents
V sad disappointing that civic was shutdown.i literally had gone to t showroom to buy one , n shocked to hear this .
This is the most balanced review yet. He has put in such a crisp and clear manner that no one is even angry about the fact that the Civic is discontinued. But yes, the new car, even with its new-age design, could not compare much with the old car's driving excitement. I myself went to a Honda showroom with the old Civic to see whether I can get myself to buy the new car convincingly. Everything about the new car was fantastic till the time I pressed the accelerator pedal. I was a bit disappointed.
I never understood why we Indians are so obsessed with SUVs , give sedans some love too.
I am not sure how it was priced in India but this is essentially an entry-level . People buy it for its reliability not comfort not engine power. please research a little bit about the car's history.
Lol ! Public killed Honda Civic and other cars in it's segment . 😏😏😏😏😏
absolutely spot on ! Please do make a video about FIAT India - they make some of the best cars yet have had a tough run in India.
We don't care about features and transmission .civic was our favourite car since childhood...❤️
Immensely accurate. You guys are a joy for automobile enthusiasts like myself
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I cried that day when i saw this news online back in December 20 , as i was about to buy it😭 in jan
same
Honda Killed the civic-
1.No turbo petrol- same 2006 engine
2.No diesel automatic.
3.No Petrol Manual.
Lovely car gone too soon.....
From a car maker for the Enthusiasts to a car maker for the masses,Honda is now losing in India, had it not been the City, it would have shut shop by now.
They should bring the new Civic RS now to the Indian market. Now the Indian market will once again start to turn towards sedans. I hope they will bring the prologue back in the future.
Space and practicality was a problem. The new civic has solved that with it more traditional car styling like WV . Honda should bring the latest to India
No one wants to spend 20 lakhs in a cvt Honda India would rather buy a compact or a full size suv Saloon car era is going dead and compact suv is taking their space
I am currently driving city and it was going to be my next car, it was really heartbreaking on listening that honda was discontinuing civic
it's alright.. never let your joy go down..
Power drift attacked . 0:31 all you need to know unlike powerdrift
May be a suggestion why the Lancer wasn't upgraded for Indian market and not brought back???
Cause Indian market was not open to the luxury sedans and this led to the low sales
You either Die a Hero....
Or live long enough to see yourself become the Villain
Honda just killed it off 😂
You hit the nail with the price to feature ratio regarding the city vs civic. I'd argue the civic had worse interiors, no space advantage at the back compared to the city and no luxurious appeal ala the Octavia vis a vis the Rapid.
As a Honda user i must say Honda India has the worst market strategy.
What civic missed -
Petrol manual
Lacklustre and had dead Diesel engine
Sunroof only in top variant
Should have luxury features at this price point like auto park , ventilated seats , 360 camera
Not that plush interiors
Coupe slopping roof made the seating so low especially in the back seat where 6 feeters can’t sit
Could you please make one on the Ford Figo, stating how it fell out of the radar of buyers looking for a hatchback and how Ford really messed up the opportunity they had created with the first generation Figo.
I drove petrol CVT Civic from Delhi to Shimla and it was such an underpowered car! Extremely disappointed.
CVT IN a 22 lakh car
Underpowered engine
Pricing
The original civic was around 13 lakhs for the top end
And now pricing is 22-23 lakhs price shot up by 60-70 percent
I have owned a manual civic and drove it for 136000 kms 2011-2018 without any issues
But spending 23 lakhs on the same experience it’s worthless
Point 1, SUVs are popular - they are just popular and easy to drive But sedens are more luxurious and confortable and has long life.
And that's why I'm holding onto my 07 SI with 220k miles because she still drives like a dream !!!
Civic was a good car but that 1.8 SOHC engine was a poor choice. I don't mind the CVT as it was a very good gearbox, but the engine was anemic and 1.5 turbo in the segment would have made a better choice. So was diesel engine, and while they got the job done; they never felt in the league of 1.8 TSI from Skoda. SUV onslaught has been killing all the sedans slowly irrespective of the segment they fall in, despite them being nowhere as nice to drive as sedans; thanks to our roads that little extra ground clearance becomes a necessity.
Japanese car makers need a major overhaul. Suzuki, Honda and Toyota are losing their grip on the Indian market
Who killed it? It's budget , It's pricing.
Old civic was discontinued in 2013 because the then-new civic sedan was only suitable for the US market
This Compact SUV segment which is literally worthless just looks better is the reason why premium Sedans are doing bad in the market.
Honda is not moving with the trend. It doesn't give too many options in terms of engine and transmission. One engine with manual or cvt. No dct/dsg. Only 2-3 variants in terms of features. It is bound to be left behind.
The old petrol civic was something else!!
It's unmatched that's why I won't sell my 10 year old city
I own a older gen civic that was launched in India and in my view the older car looked and drove better than the new one, the new one had the same R18 engine and no manual :-( the diesel was not to my liking as i dont prefer the NVH on diesel cars, i wish honda has given it better engine the chassis was nice it just needed an optional more powerful engine.
How i wish honda has put the 1.5 Turbo with the manual in there :-) that would have been perfect for me as an upgrade but the car honda launched was very lack lusture.
Hey tushar i want your advice ?
i am interested in buying a used 2013 honda civic 1.8v manual.
Is it a good choice ?
Are the airbags safe from that model & does it have ground clearance issue ?
Also i would love to upsize the stock 195/65 15 tyre to 215/60 15 tyre is it upgradable or not ?
@Tushar Kamath thank you 👍
Honestly it's really sad to see the D segment sedans dying just because everyone wants a crossover SUV, but partly also becauseof the prices and the taxes. Most of the crossovers don't offer more space than a sedan, don't handle as well and also don't have the same boot space. The only thing they are good at is letting people flex in the name of "commanding driving position" imo, and maybe better features. But either way, it still gives me some hope in the Indian car market because with the rise of automatics it has still shown that it would still prefer a manual over an auto in cars like the Civic (apparently).
Next Gen Civic coming back to India in 2026!
People here commenting overpriced . Only a real owner of civic knows how well it drives and feels at that price point . Even 30 Lacs would be justice to price if we compare it with its rivals (boring Altis , not good at handling Elantra and notoriously unreliable Octavia )
Excellent analysis Tushar... 👍
Kia stinger upcoming probable replacement . Civic was a beauty had much road presence.
Very good topic ..
Do 1 on CR-V too !
Honda should show the door to their research / analysis & strategy team!!
bring back civic ...mine is now 12 years old, need new one!
What I heard from Honda is they will not bring any car which will cost more than Rs 25. So no possibility for civic relaunch or CRV either, as there are no customer for this range of products. Rather they will bring HRV instead, the segment which is hot at this moment along with newer version of WRV and brio
The Indian civic car was a poor deal. It did not have a petrol manual, nor a turbo option which was available in other countries. So obviously the CVT was a huge disappointment
Honda in India thinks that they could sell anything here ,and still expect their every model to do well ........ Shame for being excessively ambitious Honda 👎👎👎👎
Nothing else but Indian roads are killing almost every Sedan
Sedans > SUVs, anyday. Period.
When discontinued, it was the highest selling car of its segment.
Would have bought it if nt have been burdened by home loan :D Just fantastic road presence..best looking sporty sedan in india..
8th generation civic is the most badass modified car in the world...