Great footage! I even made a cameo 😁 If I’d noticed you across the road I would have come over and said hi. Shame you missed the coupling and pushing it up the hill, that was the fun part!
Unfortunately I had an important seniors club event the next day which would have been unwise to miss. I would have liked to see it, but time got away. I think they had to move the ramp because somebody forgot to remove the concrete blocks beside the tram line so the tram could not line up with the ramp properly. You can see that in Ch 7.
There were quite a few of us indeed. Logistics/trucking crew, Alstom, Goldlinq and KD - also being the first delivery of this batch there were quite a few staff members pretty keen to head down and check it out, in addition to those directly involved. Yes, I drove the pushing tram (LRV 17) with another driver at the front of LRV 19 on comms as the eyes of the operation.
Very interesting. You were lucky to be involved in that delicate operation. I have a couple of ideas for the next delivery. Would you like to me email me at: tressteleg(at)icloud.com Use the normal symbol instead of (at)
entertaining. well spotted that the ramp is gauge-adjustable around 11:00. that implies that the ramp is also for use relocating qld trains. it seems to be a shortcoming of the system to not have a permanent ramp close to a tram depot. ive seen a schoney video of a permanent tram ramp not too far from a northern melbourne depot. this expensive exercise was made slower and more expensive without a permanent ramp.
While the ramp may well have a setting for 3’ 6” gauge, I believe it belongs in Europe where the transport company is headquartered and so could probably also cater for Metre as well as the wider Spanish and Russian gauges. As for a permanent unloading ramp, two factors come into play. Melbourne has used theirs for the 100 E class already delivered, and a similar number for the next G class. By comparison, Gold Coast is not likely to get much past 30. Also the land was easily available at Preston. If you are familiar with the Gold Coast, you would see that there is almost nowhere accessible to put it. The roads to the depot are narrow with sharp bends, and with all the poles for the overhead, driving up the tram line to the depot would also probably be impossible.
@@tressteleg1 In Europe, where several hundred tram systems exist, there are also several companies who can perform transports like that. So the adjustability of these ramps is probably restricted to standard gauge and metre gauge. Also, unlike trams, trains usually travel to their destination on their own wheels - in Spain (and some other countries) large metre-gauge local networks exist, while in other cases rail vehicles are mostly craned at their destination (without these kinds of ramps at all). Russia and other post-soviet countries are a chapter for themselves - transporting trams on such trucks is pretty much everyday-level normal, and since several networks with unconnected parts exist (e.g. Moscow, Kiew, Wolgograd, Novosibirsk), trams are moved around on trucks on pretty much everyday basis (the main tram workshop of Minsk does not even have a track connection - every tram moving between the workshop and the network does so on road trucks). Since these tram companies and countries need those trucks so regularily, they just own them outright (and also non-Russian-gauge tram networks are really rare in those parts - 2 in Russia, 3 in Ukraine, one each in Latvia and Estonia), so there is not much need for external companies to have adjustable trailers for Russian gauge...
I strongly suspect that this trailer normally lives in Europe. It is definitely not the same trailer as has been used to transport new E class trams from the Melbourne factory to Preston. ua-cam.com/video/TRpvmVBWlXM/v-deo.html So it likely belongs to Mammoet who owns the truck and thus I expect the trailer will be returned to Europe to transport the next GC tram when it is ready. Your other information is noted with interest. Sydney also had several isolated tramways but until a trailer was made in the 1930s, trams were hauled with difficulty over the suburban railway. The North Sydney connection was at St Leonards station.
@@tressteleg1 , i seriously think the gold coast operator needs to pick a location with easy oversized vehicle access and build an easily removable and installable ramp setup that slots into prepared locating holes or whatever to give some military precision to this sort of business. such a ramp as shown is easily made in australia or china or even my backyard. of course the gold coast tram network will keep getting larger. your videos show it to be a successful system.
I suggest you come to the Gold Coast and find somewhere suitable. I live here and use the trams regularly and can think of nowhere to do it off the running line. You can start with an up to date satellite map. Just remember that the trailer cannot bend around corners.
No but I was a Melbourne tram driver 1988 - 1994. I can stay reasonably up to date as transport workers seem happy to ‘talk shop’ and answer questions which they may not answer so frankly to ‘outsiders’.
The upcoming delivery was no secret. For a week or so there were notices at tram stops about the lines’s closure early that evening. I also read about it in the Good Coast Bulletin ‘Breaking News’. I don’t know if that is visible to non-subscribers. The My:G app had a service update warning. I expect that the trailer will go back to Europe for re-use possibly for the next tram which should be No. 20. The tram was scheduled to leave Brisbane at 10pm but in fact left at 9:20.
A few years ago there was discussion about removing them, but the cost of doing so was so great, they left them there. Apparently if viewed from some distance away on one side, they can be clearly read which is vaguely glimpsed in the channel 7 story.
Did the tram get a speeding ticket ?
Not while I was looking!
@@tressteleg1 lol😂😂😂
I like seeing new things coming soon on the road in Queensland
There’s four more coming later in the year so if you feel like staying up until three or four in the morning, you can come and see it all happen.
@@tressteleg1 long weekend up on tram 5:00 am see at that time ⏲️
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Great footage! I even made a cameo 😁 If I’d noticed you across the road I would have come over and said hi. Shame you missed the coupling and pushing it up the hill, that was the fun part!
Unfortunately I had an important seniors club event the next day which would have been unwise to miss. I would have liked to see it, but time got away. I think they had to move the ramp because somebody forgot to remove the concrete blocks beside the tram line so the tram could not line up with the ramp properly. You can see that in Ch 7.
Ah well. There’s four more to go so you may still get a chance. Not sure yet if I’ll get the chance to drive (push) any of those ones in as well.
There were quite a few in safety vests across the road. I guess you were one of them. Were you later the driver of the pushing tram?
There were quite a few of us indeed. Logistics/trucking crew, Alstom, Goldlinq and KD - also being the first delivery of this batch there were quite a few staff members pretty keen to head down and check it out, in addition to those directly involved.
Yes, I drove the pushing tram (LRV 17) with another driver at the front of LRV 19 on comms as the eyes of the operation.
Very interesting. You were lucky to be involved in that delicate operation.
I have a couple of ideas for the next delivery. Would you like to me email me at:
tressteleg(at)icloud.com
Use the normal symbol instead of (at)
entertaining. well spotted that the ramp is gauge-adjustable around 11:00. that implies that the ramp is also for use relocating qld trains. it seems to be a shortcoming of the system to not have a permanent ramp close to a tram depot. ive seen a schoney video of a permanent tram ramp not too far from a northern melbourne depot. this expensive exercise was made slower and more expensive without a permanent ramp.
While the ramp may well have a setting for 3’ 6” gauge, I believe it belongs in Europe where the transport company is headquartered and so could probably also cater for Metre as well as the wider Spanish and Russian gauges.
As for a permanent unloading ramp, two factors come into play. Melbourne has used theirs for the 100 E class already delivered, and a similar number for the next G class. By comparison, Gold Coast is not likely to get much past 30. Also the land was easily available at Preston. If you are familiar with the Gold Coast, you would see that there is almost nowhere accessible to put it. The roads to the depot are narrow with sharp bends, and with all the poles for the overhead, driving up the tram line to the depot would also probably be impossible.
@@tressteleg1 In Europe, where several hundred tram systems exist, there are also several companies who can perform transports like that. So the adjustability of these ramps is probably restricted to standard gauge and metre gauge. Also, unlike trams, trains usually travel to their destination on their own wheels - in Spain (and some other countries) large metre-gauge local networks exist, while in other cases rail vehicles are mostly craned at their destination (without these kinds of ramps at all).
Russia and other post-soviet countries are a chapter for themselves - transporting trams on such trucks is pretty much everyday-level normal, and since several networks with unconnected parts exist (e.g. Moscow, Kiew, Wolgograd, Novosibirsk), trams are moved around on trucks on pretty much everyday basis (the main tram workshop of Minsk does not even have a track connection - every tram moving between the workshop and the network does so on road trucks). Since these tram companies and countries need those trucks so regularily, they just own them outright (and also non-Russian-gauge tram networks are really rare in those parts - 2 in Russia, 3 in Ukraine, one each in Latvia and Estonia), so there is not much need for external companies to have adjustable trailers for Russian gauge...
I strongly suspect that this trailer normally lives in Europe. It is definitely not the same trailer as has been used to transport new E class trams from the Melbourne factory to Preston. ua-cam.com/video/TRpvmVBWlXM/v-deo.html
So it likely belongs to Mammoet who owns the truck and thus I expect the trailer will be returned to Europe to transport the next GC tram when it is ready.
Your other information is noted with interest. Sydney also had several isolated tramways but until a trailer was made in the 1930s, trams were hauled with difficulty over the suburban railway. The North Sydney connection was at St Leonards station.
@@tressteleg1 , i seriously think the gold coast operator needs to pick a location with easy oversized vehicle access and build an easily removable and installable ramp setup that slots into prepared locating holes or whatever to give some military precision to this sort of business. such a ramp as shown is easily made in australia or china or even my backyard. of course the gold coast tram network will keep getting larger. your videos show it to be a successful system.
I suggest you come to the Gold Coast and find somewhere suitable. I live here and use the trams regularly and can think of nowhere to do it off the running line. You can start with an up to date satellite map. Just remember that the trailer cannot bend around corners.
Really interesting job! Tks for sharing that! I guess all of that took place really close to the depot, right?
Yes, just a few hundred metres away. And this was the closest suitable place to unload coming from the Brisbane port.
A spiffy looking tram arrives!! Thanks Tressteleg1😀💚
👍👍
Going to be weird calling these teams Alstom flexy 2 trams. Great video by the way!
I will just have my eyes open to see if the quality is the same 😆
@@tressteleg1 it should be considering they're using everything bombardier used apart from the manufacturer name since the merger.
Hopefully. I think Bombardier had higher quality than Alstom.
Very interesting video 👍🏻
😊👍
GOOD OLD TRAM TRANSPORT WAS IN 1960 IN NSW
Well most of the big cuts started in 1957.
oh yea, i think ive been on one similar at surfers paradise and the tram at peak hours the other day, handled it like a god...
also, good video
These 5 extras are exactly the same as the earlier 14 + 4.
Do you work on the trams?
No but I was a Melbourne tram driver 1988 - 1994. I can stay reasonably up to date as transport workers seem happy to ‘talk shop’ and answer questions which they may not answer so frankly to ‘outsiders’.
@@tressteleg1 Cool 👍, didn't know about delivery, I would of had a look if I knew! I need some inside knowledge
The upcoming delivery was no secret. For a week or so there were notices at tram stops about the lines’s closure early that evening. I also read about it in the Good Coast Bulletin ‘Breaking News’. I don’t know if that is visible to non-subscribers. The My:G app had a service update warning. I expect that the trailer will go back to Europe for re-use possibly for the next tram which should be No. 20. The tram was scheduled to leave Brisbane at 10pm but in fact left at 9:20.
This is a great video
😊👍
Look new to me?
Well it certainly should look clean and new as it was straight from the factory.
They ran a red light at the start?
I guess police escorts can do what they like. Being the exit from the university and hospital, probably no traffic was affected.
Dang with all those cop cars, they ain’t letting no one get close
No, I certainly could not get closer. Anybody would think they were protecting a nuclear bomb. That big support vehicle truck was also a hindrance.
@tressteleg1 the 2nd big truck is called a push-pull unit.
Aka if load needs help up a hill it is pulling or pushing.
Makes sense. It nevertheless kept getting in my way!
Looks good
So it should - brand new!
You were driving like you were involved in its transport
Just trying to keep the tram in sight.
From the 7 video: I thought they permanently turned off those stupid Gold Coast lights that wasn’t legible for the M1?
A few years ago there was discussion about removing them, but the cost of doing so was so great, they left them there. Apparently if viewed from some distance away on one side, they can be clearly read which is vaguely glimpsed in the channel 7 story.