I had just watched that one and also you may have noticed that the electric part just like the Shinkansen is only to Brisbane and back to Rocky that is Rockhampton’s nickname also it’s the shorter version of it’s real name and yes I had seen this train before but only once
My hometown Brisbane! The reason everything was so green was we had a heap of rain over the Summer so the outback (which is normally brown) was lit up with green, it’s almost a once in a lifetime event. Also let us know next time you’re in Brisbane, happy to show you around.
The bird, aka "Bin Chicken", is the Australian white ibis (Threskiornis molucca). They are related to the Black headed ibis (T. melanocephalus) you might be familiar with in Japan. The bats are flying foxes, aka fruit bats (Pteropus sp), which are the largest bat species in the world. There would be 3 possible species in Brisbane, being the largest, the grey headed flying fox (P poliocephalus), black flying fox (P alecto), or the little red flying fox (P scapulatus), which is the most widely distributed of the megabats in Australia.
Great video. I used to catch the Tilt Train regularly when it was brand new, and I was attending boarding school. Late 90’s/early 2000’s. Back then the entertainment system had multiple music channels as well as the movie channel - I recall there was a channel where you could listen to ABC Radio National, a classical music channel, an easy listening channel, a Top 40 channel, and a few others.
Thank Kuga san. You gave me a different perspective on travel with trains. I suppose train travel can be a part of the fun in a trip instead of being solely a mode of transport.
I have used that service 3 times now, great trip but one thing that amuses me is calling the Dunny a rest room, no couch to lay down on for a rest, only a koona to take a dump or have a leak and a sink and tap to wash your hands
Bin chickens are swamp birds that have adapted to live in the city because much of their habitat was reclaimed to build there. they'll steal your sushi right out of your hand. At least they did to my poor, unsuspecting son.
Thank you for another great video, my very best friends live in Brisbane. Much love from the UK. My only memory of Aus is when I flew in from New Zealand to join my F1 Team at the Grand Prix. I remember sitting outside Starbucks Saturday morning listening to the sound of F1 cars echo round the city. I bought my Starbucks mug from there & it's still my favorite coffee mug 🙂 Best holiday of my life. Now I have a Dalmatian dog in the UK so no more travel LOL but if you ever visit Derby UK, please come & say Hi to us
Hi, I wish I knew you were coming. I live in the Blue Mountains I could take you around. I've been following your channel quite a bit. Love your content. Great review on everything you experience. Thank you again
Love a Kuga video, I also love how polite you are about the food! I would hate to see what the cab would look like if it was rated to take a kangaroo at 300km an hour.... think Aussie V8 supercar!! If youre ever back near scotland, let us know, you would love the train up to Malliag.
@@ngarageRS ohhh yes, in Southeast Asia we have many eagles with sharp and straight beaks, their mouths are long like scythes that are used to cut grass
I love how you explored my hometown. You even saw the very well known “bin chicken”. The large bird that you folllowed, its correct name is Australian white ibis. They are known for taking food from rubbish bins. The food on the train looked very disappointing. You are very polite 😁
That's a big improvement on the old 'Sunlander' sleeper timings from Brisbane-Cairns. Pretty sure I left Roma St at around 9.30 a.m and we didn't get to Rockhampton until around midnight where we changed locos. This was back in 1996.
Hope you enjoyed Brisbane, the food on the train didn’t look very good, the bat you saw is a fruit bat we get a lot here in Brisbane. Thanks for the video
anyway thanks for the video we can see how its look like australia train and western country looks like ,in asia we know its already smart and comfort and fast like hsr
I travelled from the Sunshine Coast to Rockhampton and back 2 years ago in business. It was a great service and I also checked the speed of the train and at one stage going south it actually hit 185 Km/h. It was only for a very short stint at that speed. The train was running about 20 mins late at the time and the driver was obviously trying to make up time. you can really feel the difference in speed between 160 and 185 Km/h. I can't wait to travel on it again.
Interesting about the speed. In Victoria 🇦🇺 the VLine regional trains run at 160kmh as a matter of course. I have clocked one at 164kmh on my way home one afternoon…✌️
At least on this train you can check your baggage in just like an airline, and collect it at journeys end. Very few railway systems do that. Good on you Queensland!!!
Hi Kuga, this isn't the only train to operate at these speeds V/Line in the State of Victoria have Bombardier Diesel Sets called Velocities that run Intercity services, Melbourne Ballarat, Bendigo , Geelong that operate at 160Kmph, alb it less luxury more like a commuter service and they been operating well over 10 years now regards Doc..ps the ticket price is less than $ 10 Australian
Interesting video, as usual. How does this train “tilt” as implied in its name? How does its top speed (160 mph) compare with the fastest Shinkansen trains in Japan? Was the business class car full, half-empty, or have only a few passengers?
Great video. I've been on plenty of trains around the world but I could never justify the expense, time and the Woolworth frozen meal here in my own country, just embarrassing. Cheers.
12:06 hahahhah the first time train i see have a side mirror ,nice ,they speed its like ecrl in malaysia that will finish and operated in 2027 you can come and fell it
Unfortunately I can’t get excited about this train, the top speed is very slow compared with Europe and the food looks horrible. I’ll stick to flying in Australia and trains in Europe. Thank you for the video. All the best from Sydney Australia 🇦🇺
The Queensland Rail Electric Tilt Train's maximum speed during a test run was 210 kilometers per hour (130 miles per hour) on May 23, 1999. This is the fastest speed ever recorded for a train in Australia, and the fastest speed ever recorded for a narrow-gauge train. The maximum speed reached by the Spirit of Queensland's Electric Tilt Train during a test run was 210 kilometers per hour (130 miles per hour) on May 23, 1999. This is the fastest speed ever recorded for a train in Australia. The Electric Tilt Train also holds the record for the fastest narrow-gauge train by maximum test speed I looked it up on google about the it’s maximum speed during a test run so if some Shinkansen trains go up to 200 kilometres that’s only 10 kilometres slower than these trains being tested at high speed 210 kilometres
The bird is called 'The Sacred Ibis'. The bats are called 'Flying Foxes', probably because they have a red colour, although there are 5 or more species of bats in Brisbane. They are fruit eating bats.
Hi. Looking forward to watching the video but the title is misleading. The traction system is electric but the tilt mechanism is powered pneumatically, not "electrical".
We don't have the population in Australia to have really fast trains. I've never been on the Tilt Train but I have been on its predecessor The Spirit of the Capricorn.
I disagree, to a point. The south eastern corner, Basically the areas covering Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne, and Canberra, have a population density similar to that of many parts of Europe, and thus would certainly support a VFT, at the very least. The issue is a 19th century track alignment, which no government, especially here in NSW, is willing to rectify.
Welcome to Australia Kuga, I first started watching your videos when I spent 6 months in Japan ...our trains are comparatively disappointing but I'm glad you're enjoying them all the same
I wish we could have proper high speed rail, but that will never happen. Our current lines are just too poor quality for it and were built for steam trains. I have a vague memory of these tilt trains getting brought in years ago and they were so controversial, especially when it was proposed to get them in NSW... which I don't think ever ended up happening.
The fundamental problem with HSR is that the rail gauge of 1435 mm is far too narrow (as the rail cars a 3040 mm in width) - so the trains have to follow a (very expensive) virtual straight line - or tip over! This is a classic “5 Monkey Experiment” scenario - “we have always done it (incorrectly) that way”!! The so-called “Standard” rail gauge is only 1435 mm (which was actually engineered for 5’ width (mining) rail cars - and not for 8’ 0” rail cars! Brunel (in the CE 1830 - 40s) came up with a 7’ 0” rail “Broad” gauge that was perfect for 8’ 0” width rail cars - as this was far more stable and far larger load capacity (and lower maintenance) than the narrower gauges! All hell broke loose and Stephenson eventually pressed the UK Parliament for the “UK Standard Rail Gauge Act” CE 1846 to deliberately / deceptively eliminate Brunel’s excellent “Broad” gauge competing with his then commonly used “standard” gauge. In the CE 1920-30s Train cars became even wider to 10’ 0” (3040 mm) - and far more unstable as they were still using “Standard” gauge (1435 mm) that was less than half the width (3040 mm) of the cars. Would you drive road car with an 1800 mm width that has barely an 850 mm wheel gauge? No! Well only in a straight line!! The correct rail gauge for 3040 (10’ 0”) rail cars is 2540 mm (8’ 4”) “Wide” gauge rail! With this “Wide” gauge, these rail cars will be very stable and the HSR “Wide” rail lines do not have to be dead straight (as per HSR using the incorrect “Standard” Gauge rails)! This correctly engineered “Wide Gauge” rail line in Australia can then be applied for about 90% of the way using the pre-existing rail easements at a small fraction of the cost of making completely new rail easements and tracks. WDYT ?! 😊
it can go that fast but doesn't do so in revenue service. same with Victoria's VLocity trains, which can theoretically hit 210 km/h but are limited to 160 km/h
For a start it is Business class not First class and the bird at the end is a Straw necked Ibis better known as a dump bird or bin chicken. Next time time more out the window views, major stops and less of interior views of seat backs.
It would be nice if this person would speak instead of showing subtitles and to show their face would feel nicer to relate. Otherwise a very enjoyable video
Japan trains vs Australian trains wow what a downgrade 🙄 but good luck on your travels and stay safe. Been to Japan ~35 trips from here in Bangkok Have not been back to Australia for ~10 years (Brisbane born) Cost of living/travel Japan cheaper
Aussie pointing out clickbait. Do you really believe the headline speed? Nowhere in the world can reach that speed. Later it mentions 160kph which is somewhat normal in the appropriate lines. As long as it has leg room, space for travel luggage the rest is so so. Its not too bad.
The video of the diesel type tilt train "Spirit of Queensland" is here!🚈
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I had just watched that one and also you may have noticed that the electric part just like the Shinkansen is only to Brisbane and back to Rocky that is Rockhampton’s nickname also it’s the shorter version of it’s real name and yes I had seen this train before but only once
My hometown Brisbane! The reason everything was so green was we had a heap of rain over the Summer so the outback (which is normally brown) was lit up with green, it’s almost a once in a lifetime event. Also let us know next time you’re in Brisbane, happy to show you around.
Drove through montville recently the mountain was completely covered in yellow flowers, absolutely stunning!
Thankyou for showing off my home and a humble train that despite being not that fast, is Australia's fastest.
What a privilege to able to travel with you! Thank you for your time and effort! Appreciate it!
Thanks!
Thank you!🤝
The bird, aka "Bin Chicken", is the Australian white ibis (Threskiornis molucca). They are related to the Black headed ibis (T. melanocephalus) you might be familiar with in Japan. The bats are flying foxes, aka fruit bats (Pteropus sp), which are the largest bat species in the world. There would be 3 possible species in Brisbane, being the largest, the grey headed flying fox (P poliocephalus), black flying fox (P alecto), or the little red flying fox (P scapulatus), which is the most widely distributed of the megabats in Australia.
Thanks for saving me from having to write that.
Great video. I used to catch the Tilt Train regularly when it was brand new, and I was attending boarding school. Late 90’s/early 2000’s. Back then the entertainment system had multiple music channels as well as the movie channel - I recall there was a channel where you could listen to ABC Radio National, a classical music channel, an easy listening channel, a Top 40 channel, and a few others.
What a lovely city. Thank you for another great video, Kuga!
Can’t wait for your next adventure!
Thanks as always for sharing your adventures so nicely filmed and edited. I hope you had a lovely time in this city.
Thank Kuga san. You gave me a different perspective on travel with trains. I suppose train travel can be a part of the fun in a trip instead of being solely a mode of transport.
Trains are great and that they drop you off closer to the centre of the city than airports.
I have used that service 3 times now, great trip but one thing that amuses me is calling the Dunny a rest room, no couch to lay down on for a rest, only a koona to take a dump or have a leak and a sink and tap to wash your hands
@12:54 I believe that is what the Australians call a "Bin Chicken"
Technically it's called an Ibis but the bird has a pet name "bin chicken" and you can guess why. I don't think I've ever seen a clean bin chook
Thanks for saving me frog explaining what a bin chicken (Ibis) is
@@ianfox6106 I see them at work the disgusting creatures.
Bin chickens are swamp birds that have adapted to live in the city because much of their habitat was reclaimed to build there.
they'll steal your sushi right out of your hand. At least they did to my poor, unsuspecting son.
Great video ... as always. Thank you.
Thank you for another great video, my very best friends live in Brisbane. Much love from the UK. My only memory of Aus is when I flew in from New Zealand to join my F1 Team at the Grand Prix. I remember sitting outside Starbucks Saturday morning listening to the sound of F1 cars echo round the city. I bought my Starbucks mug from there & it's still my favorite coffee mug 🙂 Best holiday of my life. Now I have a Dalmatian dog in the UK so no more travel LOL but if you ever visit Derby UK, please come & say Hi to us
Great video as always 😊
Thank you Kuga san. Great to see some of Queensland's countryside. Pity about the "average" food. Ha ha
Great video Kuga-san. I'm going to Rockhampton soon and deciding between plane or train. What amazing countryside.
ありがとうございました!
Thank you again Kuga for showing us this amazing train and the wonderful scenery.
Hi, I wish I knew you were coming. I live in the Blue Mountains I could take you around. I've been following your channel quite a bit. Love your content. Great review on everything you experience. Thank you again
Loved your commentary, as always. And loved the brief time you showed us while exploring the city
Love a Kuga video, I also love how polite you are about the food!
I would hate to see what the cab would look like if it was rated to take a kangaroo at 300km an hour.... think Aussie V8 supercar!!
If youre ever back near scotland, let us know, you would love the train up to Malliag.
12:54 Australian white ibis aka "Bin Chicken"
what is ibis
@@afizi1213 Ibis is just a bird type look like stork with long narrow beak
@@ngarageRS ohhh yes, in Southeast Asia we have many eagles with sharp and straight beaks, their mouths are long like scythes that are used to cut grass
Nice video Kuga San 🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤
I’m sure that bird you saw is called a bin chicken because it likes to rummage through the bins.
Nice job, Kuga. Tilt trains are a good compromise when more advanced rail systems aren't possible. Not the height of luxury, though.
Might also be good for speeding up rail travel between KL & JB in Malaysia (narrow gauge too) where HSR might be too expensive
Bite the bullet - go for standard gauge
We lived on the Sunshine Coast for a few years. It indeed is beautiful.
Amazing train journey volgo
Love this journey amazing ❤:)
First! Yet another discovery travel video! Always informative. Thank you.
I really enjoy your videos. Thank you. 😊😊😊
I bat that you didn't expect these fellas at the end :D
The long beaked birb is an ibis, also known as a bin chicken or a trash turkey. Looking forward to your journey to Cairns.
Thanks for coming back to Queensland.
You are my fave traveller.♥
I love how you explored my hometown. You even saw the very well known “bin chicken”. The large bird that you folllowed, its correct name is Australian white ibis. They are known for taking food from rubbish bins. The food on the train looked very disappointing. You are very polite 😁
That's a big improvement on the old 'Sunlander' sleeper timings from Brisbane-Cairns. Pretty sure I left Roma St at around 9.30 a.m and we didn't get to Rockhampton until around midnight where we changed locos. This was back in 1996.
Thank you so much 🙏🏼
From Moreton Bay QLD
Hope you enjoyed Brisbane, the food on the train didn’t look very good, the bat you saw is a fruit bat we get a lot here in Brisbane. Thanks for the video
That 'food' would make me throw up. There are so many locally grown alternatives, fresher than you'll ever find in Coles. Why serve up plastic crap?
Great trip. Thankfully you survived after 8 hours sitting.
anyway thanks for the video we can see how its look like australia train and western country looks like ,in asia we know its already smart and comfort and fast like hsr
I travelled from the Sunshine Coast to Rockhampton and back 2 years ago in business. It was a great service and I also checked the speed of the train and at one stage going south it actually hit 185 Km/h. It was only for a very short stint at that speed. The train was running about 20 mins late at the time and the driver was obviously trying to make up time. you can really feel the difference in speed between 160 and 185 Km/h. I can't wait to travel on it again.
160 and 185. You realise that that's the cruising speed on European motorways, and their fast trains do double it and more.
Interesting about the speed. In Victoria 🇦🇺 the VLine regional trains run at 160kmh as a matter of course. I have clocked one at 164kmh on my way home one afternoon…✌️
At least on this train you can check your baggage in just like an airline, and collect it at journeys end. Very few railway systems do that. Good on you Queensland!!!
I travelled in February (summer here) and I can say the air conditioning did not cope well.
Thanks for the video.
I had rode on that same tilt train from Maryborough West to Roma St. in Brisbane.
I've been on the Prospector from Perth to Kalgoorlie and it regularly get up to 170kph.
Very cool
Poor Mr Kuga must think he’s travelled back in time to train travel of the early 80’s in Japan !😂
Good job
Hi Kuga, this isn't the only train to operate at these speeds V/Line in the State of Victoria have Bombardier Diesel Sets called Velocities that run Intercity services, Melbourne Ballarat, Bendigo , Geelong that operate at 160Kmph, alb it less luxury more like a commuter service and they been operating well over 10 years now regards Doc..ps the ticket price is less than $ 10 Australian
Boa viagem ai lindo trem gostei super lik 2:17 e bom viajar com vc
Hi Kuga the bird is an ibis, but we call them bin chickens
The bird is a bin chicken 🤣
Interesting video, as usual. How does this train “tilt” as implied in its name? How does its top speed (160 mph) compare with the fastest Shinkansen trains in Japan? Was the business class car full, half-empty, or have only a few passengers?
Great video. I've been on plenty of trains around the world but I could never justify the expense, time and the Woolworth frozen meal here in my own country, just embarrassing. Cheers.
must be fun
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12:06 hahahhah the first time train i see have a side mirror ,nice ,they speed its like ecrl in malaysia that will finish and operated in 2027 you can come and fell it
This is the closest thing that Australia has to high-speed rail along with a couple V/Line routes. 💀🤣
I am a Canadian and I have been to Australia.
Unfortunately I can’t get excited about this train, the top speed is very slow compared with Europe and the food looks horrible. I’ll stick to flying in Australia and trains in Europe. Thank you for the video. All the best from Sydney Australia 🇦🇺
The Queensland Rail Electric Tilt Train's maximum speed during a test run was 210 kilometers per hour (130 miles per hour) on May 23, 1999. This is the fastest speed ever recorded for a train in Australia, and the fastest speed ever recorded for a narrow-gauge train.
The maximum speed reached by the Spirit of Queensland's Electric Tilt Train during a test run was 210 kilometers per hour (130 miles per hour) on May 23, 1999. This is the fastest speed ever recorded for a train in Australia. The Electric Tilt Train also holds the record for the fastest narrow-gauge train by maximum test speed
I looked it up on google about the it’s maximum speed during a test run so if some Shinkansen trains go up to 200 kilometres that’s only 10 kilometres slower than these trains being tested at high speed 210 kilometres
Not sure 🤔 how well you read English but keep up the good work!
The more I watch videos from all the creators that hail from Japan, the more embarrassed I feel about our train speeds………..🙄🙄🙄
Basically outside of EU and JP it's a barren desert for high speed trains.
@@jimbotron70, one that people like yourself have to *_work_* at changing into the paradise mentioned by you.
@@Neville60001 I'm not interested in changing anything, I already live in a high-speed train country in EU ...
The bird is called 'The Sacred Ibis'. The bats are called 'Flying Foxes', probably because they have a red colour, although there are 5 or more species of bats in Brisbane. They are fruit eating bats.
Based on the size and color, I assume the bat is a black flying fox (Pteropus alecto).
"Quite average..." That may be the lowest comment I've seen for your food reviews!
Kuga has picked up the local lingo. Aussies often say "pretty average " when they mean it is bad.
13:21, oh that's a Hell-No! Brisbane is off the list - that thing is gonna carry me off to it's lair and eat me raw.
What is the app you are using to check the speed please?
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The Pendolino train has arrived in AUS 😅
Australia has enjoyable landscapes but not so interesting is the food.
Hi. Looking forward to watching the video but the title is misleading. The traction system is electric but the tilt mechanism is powered pneumatically, not "electrical".
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9:52 Uh oh! Lunch has expired (February 21, 2024)!!
It was February when he recorded this
We don't have the population in Australia to have really fast trains. I've never been on the Tilt Train but I have been on its predecessor The Spirit of the Capricorn.
I disagree, to a point. The south eastern corner, Basically the areas covering Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne, and Canberra, have a population density similar to that of many parts of Europe, and thus would certainly support a VFT, at the very least. The issue is a 19th century track alignment, which no government, especially here in NSW, is willing to rectify.
@@arokh72 to other countries we don't have the population, but I like it that way.
2nd!! And what bird is that in the city? Looked like an Ibis from Egypt...
@7:22 ' Thank you for the stomach cramps and diarrhoea '
@10:19 '' Thand you for the heart burn and indigestion '
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Welcome to Australia Kuga, I first started watching your videos when I spent 6 months in Japan ...our trains are comparatively disappointing but I'm glad you're enjoying them all the same
I wish we could have proper high speed rail, but that will never happen. Our current lines are just too poor quality for it and were built for steam trains. I have a vague memory of these tilt trains getting brought in years ago and they were so controversial, especially when it was proposed to get them in NSW... which I don't think ever ended up happening.
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How did you end up in Rocky????
Hi I'm From India❤❤😊😊
The fundamental problem with HSR is that the rail gauge of 1435 mm is far too narrow (as the rail cars a 3040 mm in width) - so the trains have to follow a (very expensive) virtual straight line - or tip over! This is a classic “5 Monkey Experiment” scenario - “we have always done it (incorrectly) that way”!!
The so-called “Standard” rail gauge is only 1435 mm (which was actually engineered for 5’ width (mining) rail cars - and not for 8’ 0” rail cars! Brunel (in the CE 1830 - 40s) came up with a 7’ 0” rail “Broad” gauge that was perfect for 8’ 0” width rail cars - as this was far more stable and far larger load capacity (and lower maintenance) than the narrower gauges!
All hell broke loose and Stephenson eventually pressed the UK Parliament for the “UK Standard Rail Gauge Act” CE 1846 to deliberately / deceptively eliminate Brunel’s excellent “Broad” gauge competing with his then commonly used “standard” gauge.
In the CE 1920-30s Train cars became even wider to 10’ 0” (3040 mm) - and far more unstable as they were still using “Standard” gauge (1435 mm) that was less than half the width (3040 mm) of the cars. Would you drive road car with an 1800 mm width that has barely an 850 mm wheel gauge? No! Well only in a straight line!!
The correct rail gauge for 3040 (10’ 0”) rail cars is 2540 mm (8’ 4”) “Wide” gauge rail! With this “Wide” gauge, these rail cars will be very stable and the HSR “Wide” rail lines do not have to be dead straight (as per HSR using the incorrect “Standard” Gauge rails)! This correctly engineered “Wide Gauge” rail line in Australia can then be applied for about 90% of the way using the pre-existing rail easements at a small fraction of the cost of making completely new rail easements and tracks. WDYT ?! 😊
It's a mean to take you from point a to point b, not for enjoyment for sure
There are not many fast trains in Australia. They are mostly very slow and expensive. This is an exception, fast but not exactly a bullet train.
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Why are they called tilt?
WHY DID IT TAKE 8 HOURS AT THE SPEED OF 160 KMPH TO COVER 640 KMS ONLY?
You're actually wrong. It reaches speeds of 200km/ph not 160km/ph.
it can go that fast but doesn't do so in revenue service. same with Victoria's VLocity trains, which can theoretically hit 210 km/h but are limited to 160 km/h
The butter chicken didn't look good and the wrong kind of rice was used, it should have been basmati rice.😂
For a start it is Business class not First class and the bird at the end is a Straw necked Ibis better known as a dump bird or bin chicken. Next time time more out the window views, major stops and less of interior views of seat backs.
It would be nice if this person would speak instead of showing subtitles and to show their face would feel nicer to relate. Otherwise a very enjoyable video
Japan trains vs Australian trains wow what a downgrade 🙄 but good luck on your travels and stay safe.
Been to Japan ~35 trips from here in Bangkok
Have not been back to Australia for ~10 years (Brisbane born)
Cost of living/travel Japan cheaper
Sad to think this is Australia’s fastest train. This country is so far behind the rest of the developed world, very sad indeed.
Don’t look up trains in the US then 😂😂
640km at this train's top speed of 180km/h = 3h travel time. If QR has so many stops, then why run a fast train here at all?
Aussie pointing out clickbait. Do you really believe the headline speed? Nowhere in the world can reach that speed. Later it mentions 160kph which is somewhat normal in the appropriate lines. As long as it has leg room, space for travel luggage the rest is so so. Its not too bad.