PUNISH YOUR OPPONENTS! Tekken 8 Lee Chaolan Basics Guide!
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- heyo i had a bunch of people asking for a guide on how to take advantage of players who are mashing with the ever elegant Lee Chaolan! hope this helps and dont hesitate to ask any questions or give suggestions!
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Brilliant!
Everyone said "starting out? don't worry, just pick a character that looks cool to you". Well, I guess I'll better get practicing... Awesome guide, thank you!
Excerrent!
Okay, this is by far one of the best guides I ve seen on lee..HOWEVER, this is by no mean "basics" or "beginner" friendly...this is such an intermediate to low high level kinda guide, frame traps, conditioning, crushing (in a way with d3 explanation), counter hit...again very very goid and thourough guide, as a lee enthousiast, this is VERY INFORMATIVE...but no beginner will learn from this
Lee isnt a beginner character, i did the best i could do
I could probably learn from this guide since I know the fundamentals so it’s good for people going back into the game but not super beginners
@@Megamibunny yea, same goes for me I am coming back and this is helping to refresh some memories (even tho i knlw most of this I only play lee since T4) but yeah the best video of this kind I have ever seen.
If you're looking for beginner guides you really don't need a character specific video. For a character specific video this is among the best, definitely the best one I've seen for T8.
Oh also i assure you this is far from high level
Other characters tutorials and tips: "you punish with this and this and this because this is fast and will win everytime"
Lee's Tutorial and tips: GASLIGHTING
Literally lol
"You will never drop this" You underestimate my 4 bar wifi connection online
just like me fr
FFS it’s 2024 get a cable ur ruining ur own experience
Honestly the 4 bar wifi connection people I've had have all be very playable except for 1. You guys aren't that bad
Lee mains are pretty much required to get an ethernet cable and if you don‘t have an own router, get a wi-fi repeater, trust me.
I was a beginner Lee main at the launch of Tekken 8, I‘m now in the orange ranks (Vanquisher).
I‘ve only played Tekken online in 6, I only had wi-fi available back then, it was terrible.
Now, I can hit just frame moves like Acid Rain with ease, without heat.
You can do it too!
@@DennisTheZZZ been playing lee for close 6 years now on wifi since tekken 7, only reason why I dont have a cable is that I live in a dorm where I dont have access to the router also play mostly offline too can hit pretty much every just frame other than mist trap consistently (I just love rhytmn games)
"Your gameplan requires your opponent to press a button" very true and it is why Lee is one of the most difficult character to play at higher level where people are taking less risk and know that weakness
One thing I like to do to take advantage of Lee's strong conditioning is Back2-2 over and over, until they get frustrated and try counter-attacking, which you can take advantage by doing a ForwardForward3-4 which is a luncher.
YES! Into forward 3-1 ? I think , sorry if bad string or wrong combo but this is my first tekken since like 3 I’ve been in the trainer since launch 😂😂
Mmm… lunch
hey man just picked up tekken 8 on sale. Its my first one ever and immediately i thought lee looked the coolest and wanted to main him. I found out later how hard he is but I learned a lot from this vid and am going to keep practicing! Thanks
This video is... MARVELOUS! Lots of legacy experience and knowledge at work here. Subbed
got to mighty ruler with victor in a week of picking him up.
I finally got Lee to mighty ruler after watching this video after picking him up at launch. this is my first fighting game. ty for explaining this so well.
Marvelous guide for me, thank you. Try it tomorrow.
P.S. STUPID TIMING, now I can looping b2f around 60-75% successful, BUT b2f-b2f into b ws 12 - I'm starting crying. You need wait a 2/3 animation "dash" and cancel that with "b"....
Want to see more matches + combo video might be good. With level 1 (for noobs) to level 2 (like a pro) combos for example.
I feel you. I was trying to mist step cancel into ws 21 (or is it 12?) and wanting to shoot myself. I can do it maybe 50% of the time on the ground, but like 5% of the time in a combo. Man, even getting the b2f consistently after the 4u3 is difficult. Why does this character have to be so hard?!?! I feel like Lee has to work way harder for his combo damage.
Hey any tips for timingC I don’t get it
Nice video, I would have added Mist Step fake outs and his low slide from it that almost full screens and catches most people with a WS 2-3 that you can alternate with his UF4 if they try to punish the slide
This is not only a bad ass lee guide, but also good guide on how to play this game!
Nice work my friend 🎉
Nice man this helped me alot, I've never given lee much thought. Didn't like him in t7. But he's so fun in this game.
i love your videos, please keep posting you're the one and only lee enjoyer for me.Your love for the community and new players moves montains!!
Thank you! I’ve always loved Tekken and Lee but have never been determined to get good until Tekken 8. This guide is going to help me so much!
Nicely done guide !👍🏾 Lee is my best character, and I’ll try my hand with this strategy for sure
As a new tekken player trying to main Lee this is the best video ever
Yeah am warrior rank and I was so confused on how to counter thanks for the guide. Appreciate it
This video just opened up my brain. Thank you
amazing video bro im just learning lee and im scrub, helps a ton since i was flabbergasted i cant do combo over 60 damage while doing 2 blue sparks and breaking 3 fingers
Great guide my man. i would love a tutorial for doing iws moves from mist step
Yes would defo love to see this
Discovering Tekken 8 with Lee and I plan on maining him. Tysm for this guide ❤
Dude, now that this games been out for a bit, I picked up Lee and already had his core gameplan noted, but this guide from a month ago literally just made me realize I could've been much more devious against my friends with Lee, this is sick
You have my subscribe. I'm such a noob with Lee and I can't wait to become good with enough labbing & practice.
Yknow i said the same thing, but ima be honest with you man thats not how it is with lee, his moves don't work properly. If you are going to sink that time and energy into him like i did then im going say to you what i wish someone said to me. There will be many many times where you do what youre supposed to do and you still get punished because lees hitboxes dont work. If you can be ok with that then full speed ahead cause lee is so cool! But over time those problems take a serious toll, or at least they did for me. Not saying this to scare you off or be mean, just trying to help.
@@supercamacho774 That sucks but I'm still dedicated to him. Honestly couldn't see myself playing anyone else as a main.
When I beat people I can say in my mind I outplayed them. Actually getting your moves off and doing a decent chunk because I conditioned my opponent will be satisfying.
@@silverexperience it is satisfying and i agree with you 100%. Its awesome youre sticking to him. I wish i could too.
Excellent !
Marvelous video brother🌹
Lee is so handsome ❤. An new sub
I LOVE Lee, i've played him since Tekken 5 and IS so funny to play and really unique character and I Love the Lee mains communitie since Tekken 7 ❤
I actually wanted to use Lee so this helps ty
Thx dude, I'm really struggling to play Lee and this video helped me a lot.
Camacho can you show how to do hopkick while crouch?
Amazing guide, big props for going in-depth on opponent behavior instead of just saying what buttons do. Was just looking for a refresher, but if this guide was around when I picked up Lee years ago things would’ve been a lot easier hahaha
Thank you. Good stuff
this is amazing ty sir, i been winging it since learning lee days ago and got stuck not knowing what his goal was at all
great video defo applying this to my game
You are gonna blow up trust me just keep doing what youre doing
Honestly this is a great general guide as well as a great lee guide as it has a lot of transferable knowledge. Thanks 🌹
Thanks so much for this, was really informative.
One issue I've been having is against moves that knock you back slightly on block (not sure what the correct term is for this), and I tend to get grabbed or fail to read lows.
Was wondering what are lee's best options in these scenarios? Been getting my ass handed to me by spammy dragunov's and reina's.
Well if they are moves that push you away thats called push back, but if they are moves that put you at disadvantage then those are plus frames which def sounds like dragunov. If they are spamming throws and jabs you can use ff4 to stop them, just like you would do on your minus frames you can teach them to not take their plus frames
@@supercamacho774 Just wanted to let you know that after applying what you've demonstrated I've manage to go from Assailant to Garyu! still making a lot of mistakes but I'm so buzzed I'm finally making progress. I was forever stuck in green ranks on 7. Lee is also the only character I've really played which probably isn't ideal as a beginner BUT HE'S SO EXCELLENT NO ONE ELSE COMPARES
Lee is really strong rn
I love lees combos in this game
Same they're sick
ws1,2 might be my favorite new toy just because of how cool it is in combos
@@firecross625 yeah and hitman up4
Your tip about DF1 usage. BROOOOOO. Its too good. SS to evade jabs is so good at these earlier ranks. My boy Gigas could never move like this. Thanks for the tips
very nice guide! Lee is very hard and requires alot of concentration. Oddly i dont have problmes with just frames but with the transition from b2 loops to ws23 in combos: i find that the rythm is quite hard to internalize because i ifeel it switches a bit in the w23 part. Also b 33 pickups are tough
Very helpful thank you
Are there any Easy Combos for new Players? I Play on Gamepad and the ws 1,2 and B2F cancles are way to Hard...
Just use this:
Df2> b4,2,3> f4,1 S! df3,2,3. Super easy combo
Thx so much for taking the time to train the tekken community bro. First Tekken game ever decided to pick up Lee and got my ass beat online😂. But he’s so cool
he really is the coolest!
Not a Lee main but this was enjoyable.
Coming from 2D but being experienced I wanted to challenge myself with a harder character, I settled on Bryan, I tried Lee but he was a step too far for me haha
Great vid coming from a long time chaobla main a big tip for training with lee is to up the input latency if you primarily play online then you wanna get the most out of him by hitting these just frames, loops/wall combo/ instant slide. you need to practice in 2 - 3 frames of lag I had this issue going from locals to online it helps a ton you’ll notice at higher latency the timing all of his just frames and back 2 cancels change playing online will constantly be messing with your timing hopefully this helps remember lee chaobla top 4.
New to Tekken and Lee is the one I'd love to play, but I just know it's going to take SO much practice with him. Torn, because starting on something like Lee and not seeing results could burn me out, but mannn he's just Mahhhveelouussss. Great guide homie. Thanks for your effort and time.
Hey man you should try at the wall, wallsplat, backdash into BB4 to tornado them back onto the wall then 4,3,4 for tailspin, HMS U4, UB3
drippy combo
5:51 He's not bouncing off of the ground for me.
Same, I can’t figure out how to pick up from opponent facing down
For which move?
@@supercamacho774 b, 3, 3 pick up after CH D1 into hitman
Wanted to say ty, camacho. Im new to Tekken and grateful for peeps like you who are willing to teach us all❤❤
A big Thanks from france, so interesting video, excelleeent
I feel like our grind with Lee is finally paying off in tekken 8. Was doing good with him in tekken 7 but so much effort for not so good damage in general, in tekken 8 his damage is better and he feels so good. I mean MARVELOUS
I've played Lee/Violet since 4, and god it's awesome that he's so cool in this game. Excellent tutorial yo.
Really good guide and easy to understand for newbie, you have covered everything that other lee videos didnt teach me. Like the basic knowledge of counter hit. Before watching this video CH is just a myth for me since no one tried to explain anything in detail about it.
great stuff! tekken newbie here, I made it to assailant on day 2 based on pure reactions, pokes, and gambling with hitman 3 😂 never used df1 or ff4 so im excited to try this out
What controls do you use? I want to try out your binds
No binds :)
Is d4 still a launcher on counter hit? I tried it out yesterday and can't get the timing for b3 to launch the opponent off the ground and keep going. Or maybe it's a very strict timing?
Half of the time I do it too fast and it gives me WS moves and the other half it connects but only hits grounded and I can't link anything after.
Thank you for the MARVELOUS Lee content anyways! Learning a lot thanks to you!
Yes it is still a launcher, I released a guide for it if you're interested!
Great video!! Can’t wait for the more intricate video cuz this was sick!!
How do you get the pick up after ff4?🤔
My first tekken game so im a bit scared to play a difficult character like lee but he looks too fun. Thanks for the guide
Hey man, thanks for the vid! What should I use to punish Paul’s Death Fist with Lee? After I block it I’m +13.
hmmmm im not sure yet, maybe df44, but if it doesnt reach then you can check them for being minus with ff3
Great vid! Conditioning your opponent is such a crucial part of high level gameplay, appreciate the guide and demos🙌
Apparently you can follow up with his just frame counter hit magic 4 with a micro dash b3,3 but I can never get it down so I’m not even sure if it’s possible
It is possible just very difficult and not consistent
Lee's keepout against evasion is so strong now with df44. Being able to aggressively punish evasive offense with such a long range, low hitting, mid high string teaches your opponents to play the low risk, low reward poking game with you.
yeah expecially with it doing almost 60 dmg in heat it makes it really scary to challenge
Do you use machine gun kicks cardinal for the counter hit combo or do you just use the 4,3,4 string for the counter hit combo?
Depends, if the opponent is ducking 444 i use 434, if they jab me out of it or step and launch i use 433, its a canned mind game that all ends in the same reward as long as you dont make the wrong read
Awesome gameplay guide. 👍💪
Love u camacho
Do you use machine gun kicks cardinal for the counter hit combo or do you just use the 4,3,4 string for the counter hit combo?
Depends on what ive conditioned my opponent to punish. If theyre ducking cardinal 444 ima start using 434 or 433 until they stop ducking then rinse repeat. Honestly though both are free right now because nobody knows the matchup. Just use whatever you like for now :)
The counter-mash strategy it gets more difficult as you rank up, sometimes I feel you don't have the time to adapt your gameplan on rankeda.
The more people block the harder it is to win with lee. And practicing the speed of your decision making is a very real thing.
Hey loved the guide! Im a new players to both tekken and FGs. I absolutely love lee and for me he stands out compared to the rest of the cast, but i keep hearing is really hard is not the hardest char to play. Would you say its okay to play him as a beginner? I know for combos I can just work my way up to the harder execution but what about the gameplan and such?
The game has been out 4 days so no telling who the hardest is. I would say you should play him as a beginner if youre having fun with him, but if youre struggling you can try out an easier character with simaler moves like law or shaheen cause their easier.
I woke up with this on my mind. Question, after implementing the df1 and say I wanna go for a side step as the first layer. Which way should I side step? Should I side step to their weak side or? Thanks in advance 🙏🏽
Any feedback would be greatly appreciate. 🙏🏽
Depends on what youre trying to step, the direction in general you want their weak side but specific moves all have different weak sides so it depends on what youve observed your opponent doing
b2nf/nb tutorials?
Lee: “You reach, I teach.”
Maining Steve here, your guide inspired me to have Lee as my second character ! Love your gameplay videos 🙏
lets go! careful dont get addicted to him 🌹
Is there a trick to CH d3 into b3,3? I keep getting HMS 3 instead of b3 like 9 times out of 10 even when it feels like the same timing
If youre getting hms3 youre doing it too fast, if you do b33 and it doesnt pick up its too late
Wait until he starts moving his finger when he enters hms then press b33
Hey bro this my first tekken game i already have 40 hr in tho and ive played only azucena and victor. With azucena i love baiting with movement and punishing wiffs with her ff3 launcher wich covers alot of range. Is my playstyle best suited with lee wich is keepin my distance and baiting and punishing
welcome to tekken, bro! to be honest my answer to your question may not be what youre looking for. i think that you should play the character that is coolest. the thing with tekken is that you can be so expressive with the characters that you can really play anyone how you want and make it effective. of course there are characters who are better at some things than others, in lees case it would be spacing and punishment yes, but please play the character you like the most, at the end of the day enjoying the character is what will give you the motivation to become better in the long run.
Would u say that playstyles is best suites for lee? Does he good wiff punishing launchers that cover good range ?
@@supercamacho774 thanks bro i really enjoy that playstyle and doing well learning with azucena playing a defensive mind game strategy with her but man in third orange and first red people be spamming like a mfer lol still alot to learn when it comes to knowledge checks and how to play difrent kind of spams lol
2:57 "His punishment is EX.....CEPTIONAL" BRUH???? Excellent??
Can you do the df 4 counter combo
Df4 counter combo? Which one do you mean?
How do you launch the enemy when he is lying down with b3,3?
Its a very very specific timing, if you get hitman stance 3 youre too early, if you get b33 but they dont pick up then youre too late. Im coming out with a combo video tomorrow so if youre interested then that should help!
@@supercamacho774 Thanks man, I really want to watch it
Do you have ideas on conditioning b33?
What do you mean? Condition them to duck it? Or not duck it?
@@supercamacho774 duck it. Kinda new to being a Lee main and wanted to know any plus frame moves after b33 when they duck it or is it just a poke
@@ArevaIo i like using 1+2 or d2
*blocks launch punishable move, does acid rain*
Its the lee lifestyle 🌹
But great guide tho, its marvelous!🌹
What's the input for "magic 4"?
4 but in t8 you need to do 44 since they removed magic 4. characters need to commit to a string now
44~4
Can you do a tutorial on how to get better at match up knowledge please
Ill work on it 🌹
@@supercamacho774 thank you so much you’re the best
How do u beat Lee. It seems like everything he does is safe. And he has fast lows that lead to half my damn health vanishing
Dont give him your health, extending when you dont need to is what lee punishes you the most for. Pay attention to your life lead and if you had the lead make them come to you and take risks, all of lees plus moves are highs you can duck, and all his fast ch tools are highs or lows other than b4 but thats 21 frames. But tbh its the beginning of T8 every character is broke rn. Hope this helps
@@supercamacho774 true lol. thanks.
This gave me plenty to think about. Much appreciated!
what if you df1 and they hop kick tho lol
444, and 223, and another df1 will work. or you can just block and punish.
@@supercamacho774 WAAAAAIT
thats just crazy enough to work
That 10f ws is broken, it will be nerfed for sure. Anyway, i feel that lee is already playing tekken 9
Nah it wont get nerfed, if any of his ws punishment is getting nerfed its for sure ws23
Lee has had that move for almost 30 years with almost identical startup. It's not going anywhere. 😆
Hopefully they don't nerf his ws23 lol.. Its only a launch with heat and even then the ws23 into HE combo only really works on bigger characters and most males.. females and smaller males are kinda iffy 😢 it barely works for me lol
@@donkofarquad8602 I also think if something is going to nerfed it will be his ws2,3, mainly cause the problem is the damage you get off it is too significant. Right now, you want to hold off on using heat to get a meaty ws2,3 launch, it's just that good to have. His heat state isn't as crazy as some of the other characters, since it's normally play but made easier and if you're skilled enough with his just frame timing, really it's just an extension of normal Lee. So because you can afford to not use heat until you absolutely need it, such as with ws2,3. His wall carry is already good enough to not have to use heat burst to extend combos.
Def one of the best videos on gameplay I've seen for ANY game. Well done, sir. 🫡