SONY BRAVIA 9! BRIGHTNESS WITH PURPOSE!
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- Опубліковано 13 тра 2024
- Today, we check out the Sony Barvia 9 at the Sony Road show event in NYC. We are looking at two demos being held by Sony's Eric G, which will show the need for higher peak brightness as well as the local dimming of the Sony Bravia 9.
Special thanks to Sony for having me at the New York City roadshow and for Eric G. and Carlos for their presentation. Special thanks to Sony's team, Jack, Yukio, Miguel, Lauren , Matt , Andrew, and Jackie.
You can pre-order the Bravia 9 at our good friends at Value Electronics valueelectronics.com/ or call them directly at 914 723 3344 and ask for Robert or Wendy and please mention Brian at BRIAN'S TECH THERAPY.
Special thanks to Jennifer Gala and her second channel, HDR SUPER CHANNEL, for her amazing content seen in the intro.
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Our Sony BRAVIA 9 is scheduled to arrive Friday, May 17th and no later than Monday, May 20th. Also starting the week of May 20th we'll start shipping Nationwide all of our BRAVIA 9 orders.
I'm already there brother!!
@@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY Brian will be banging on the door with a camera in hand come Friday morning, ha ha. And the rest of us eagerly waiting for the stream/footage.
FOMO TOO LOL@@Canuck-1976
@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY Brain, it's 17th are you there
Value Electronics always for the win.
Bought tvs for over 10 years there.
Probably the most interesting TV of 2024. Let the comparisons begin!
There is no comparisons every year. Sony is the best you’re wasting your time either go with the best or go with the less
@@user-tj7vr7pg9u lol sup fanboy. To each their own. Enjoy the motion blur with Sony lmfao
Would love to see the Bravia 9 next to the A95L !!!
You will see that as soon as it releases my friend.
Unless you need to be blinded by the brightness I predict it won't even be close. A95L will blow it away. Personally I'm loving the SERIOUS price drops on those "old" A80Ls I'm seeing and it looks like I will get a great deal on one of those in a few months. A 65" SONY A80L OLED for LESS than $1800? Or maybe an A75L for less than $1500?
@@steveludwig4200 Depends. Many folks prefer the 'film' look of LED over OLED.
Higher brightness is more for HDR content and TVs in well-lit rooms.
@@steveludwig4200Oh there will be scenes blowing the A95L away it’s about HDR impact actually feeling it
The what? The film look of led? Lol. You don't want to see the a95l against the bravia 9 unless your goal is to put the bravia 9 in its place. This is marketing. There are other decent tvs out there that are leds. It's just an led, and will not come close to comparing to a high end oled.
Not to mention all of sonys quirks and bugs they have..Hopefully they're fixed this year. That and there is probably more 8k content than 4000 nit content. And I wonder how it'll do in game mode. Can't do 144hz. Grey letterbox bars? Blooming subtitles? Or have they crushed enough blacks to suppress the blooming..
If I'm sacrificing that much I'm going with the 4k240hz qn900d that'll upscale everything to 8k. At least that's something I can talk myself into
But go ahead and pay oled prices for a bravia 9..meanwhile sony probably has a gen 3 qd oled ready to take over the world as soon as this nonsense 4k nit marketing push is finished.
Paying 5k for an led when the g4 exists is just crazy. It is very bright.
I'm pretty sure this is the one for me. Keep the Bravia 9 content coming. so excited.
Thank you so much for sharing this, Brian! The gradient demo really drives home the impact and usefulness of what Sony has developed here. I'm stoked to see one of these in person!
Brian, THIS IS A REMARKABLE AND EDUCATIONAL VIDEO. Thank you!!! I now understand nits, gradation, zones. It is not the size or brightness but how you use it. I no longer think that the Bravia 9/4000 nits will be too bright for my Caribbean living room - but ideal. THANKS TO ERIC and the rest of the Sony team. This Vid has increased my respect for you Brian.
Hi Brian. I cancelled my pre-order for the 75” BRAVIA 9 and reordered, because Sony decided to put a £500 cash back offer on the TV, outside my order window!
That £500 partially paid for the TV unit, I’ve had to buy to put it on😂
Very informative review with great illustrations of backlight and gradient control. Thanks for sharing ❤️
Bravia 9 has me so intrigued. Probably my next tv.
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Thank you, Brian. I was deciding between the G4 and the B9. I’m decided to go with the Bravia n9 85 inch’s and the Bravia8 77 inches I feel that Sony is more reliable than the other competitors and Sony’s reputation speak for itself. Thank you, Brian.
The Sony rep did not disclose peak nits for Bravia 9. My prediction is 3,000 nits with the ability to tone map up to 4,000. The question then is whether the Bravia 9 is good enough to justify its significantly higher price than the 2024 QM8 and U9N. The 2024 QM8 looked pretty impressive in Fomo's comparison.
Even the 85 X90L I have is fantastic for most content as you'll be streaming which means compression. The xr clear processor gives you so much to love here. Just buy that 85" for $2000 and be so happy and immersed(Atmos sound bar system required for full immersion)until streaming services catch up with better quality and OLED and mini led become much cheaper. Trust me! I really couldn't believe how amazing new but mostly the old content looked with far less noise or motion blur and mostly good contrast and color. Thank me later for saving thousands and loving your theater system. X90L! HTA-5000 with sub and rears.
Brian, curious about your first impressions comparing the B9 to the B7, given that you've seen both!
Looks great Brian... glad to see you bringing us all this great content... sorry just caught the vid... we will be landing in new york this weekend for wifes 50th... keep up the great work bro...!!
@BRIAN'S TECH THERAPY Its always joy to watch your videos, you are totally different from another guys who are in this work about TV tech....i was always OLED guy but this one got me mesmerised and i really want one but i will wait a little bit more to see side by side with some OLEDs, i suppose you will do side by side comparision with LG G4, S95D, until then i wish you all the best and keep up the great work :)
Can't wait but still really want to see your full review of the Bravia 7
Question. I have the A80L which I love. While watching the Disney app I noticed they are one of the few that have to Dolby vision and imax enhanced. What are your settings for motion and clarity for watching higher end videos?
I love the B7-9 for what i’ve seen now. But are they worth the sacrifice?
I mean the Hisens e TCL are doing rly good things at half prices.
Hi Brian, another great review, as your presentation as always is great. I had my eyes set on the Hisense 110” tv. But after this demo, I may need to settle for the Sony 85” tv, I cannot wait for a full review on this tv thanks again
Thank you so very much my friend. I'm very impressed with Hisense and how they improve year after year. Sony's processing is still far ahead. I'll see the smaller Bravia 9 this week but only at 65". I'd expect the 85" to perform the best
I am looking forward to seeing this TV at MWAVE! See you there Brian!
Thank you for doing the Bravia 9 video.
Brian! Thank you for bringing us this my man. Also, I’m listening in headphones and I love the binaural audio. 👌🏾 [insert chef’s kiss]
Awesome!!
I got the 85in B7 and it’s been amazing! I can only imagine what the B9 looks like!
Well, you can always ask LG
Are you able to test the S-center channel sync feature? Previous year TVs had static noises that resulted from this feature. Has this been addressed?
How did you already get the Bravia 7!? Won't be available in the US until June!?
@@claykeough7898What are you talking about it? It's been released for like 2 weeks already. You can order from Best Buy, Sony, Value Electronics. The B9 is the one that hasn't released yet.
@@claykeough7898 Best Buy has the Bravia 7 right now. They are releasing the B9 next week.
Never saw these test pattern patches.. Really fascinating..
Just marketing bullshit.
Would really like a direct comparison with A95L please
i can't wait for this one, thank you Brian
Hey Brian. Have you asked Sony about the pending A95L updates for DV and the pink/green tint? Are you allowed to share some infos?
Very informative video, many thanks🙏🏻. No 55 and 65 in uk and Europe is an aberration. Please someone at Sony with common sense to reverse such a bad decision. Please!!
Yeah totally agree bud. Would like an explanation here.
Unfortunately the company is run by idiots and people who work for them are afraid to speak up Morita would turn in his grave of what has happened to this once great company, so Europe has. Smaller houses so we give them tv that is too big that is what the fools that is running this company do so people chose another brand cause their executives have brain's
im looking forward to it but i'd like to see reviews. i definitley want to see it on display. maybe they can list what locations will have them on display
I love my x950g and am waiting for more of the Bravia 9 reviews to make a decision on buying. For me after having a C6 and B7 OLED both get burn in I’m apprehensive to buy OLED for my needs.
I just got the A95L and it has a magenta purple tint when watching content. I don’t have this issue with the S90C. Are there any settings I can change to get rid of the magenta purple?
Bout to order mine. Hype!
It's amazing!
Cool, I'll definitely be there this friday. I randomly stopped by today but Robert was out. Hope to meet you too.
Thanks Brian
Brian i need the color gradient rectangle demo? Which material they are using
No one utilizes royalty free tunes like my man Brian
🤣🤣🤣🤣it's actually epidemic music and I pay for it😁
Either way you always set the mood 🔥
My Man Brian whats up Brotha.... So I finally upgraded.. and made it to the Heavyweight Division Lol... Picked up a Perfect Condition 85" QN90B!! Zero DSE super clean Panel.. Will be wall mounting Soon. I must concur with you my Friend... Size/immersion is indeed the #1 Upgrade (coming from 75" X950G) Very HAPPY so Far with the performance.
If I buy a tv for $3,000+ I sure as heck won't be watching my favorite hd and 4k movies streamed, I'll watch them on a blu-ray player that lets me take advantage of the TV's inherent picture quality. We're talking about 4k titles streaming at usually less than 20 mbps, while blu ray plays same titles up to about 100 mbps for 4k.
Cool video Brian. I can’t wait to see what this TV can do. So the Bravia 9, thanks to its amazing light control and peak brightness, should in theory show a wider dynamic range (HDR) of colors and gradients than any existing consumer display with less aggressive tone mapping-kudos to Sony for pushing the technology beyond its current limitations. Now, I’ve seen some demos where the SONY A95L QD-OLED would clip some gradients in order to push its brightness but only in 4,000 nits content. I didn’t see it here so maybe Sony is being working on a fix, especially in Dolby Vision where it tends to clip more often.
Are you going to be showing the retail demo mode content only?
Hi Brian, thanks for all your content, just to let you know I finally purchased a 83G4, managed to get a very good deal here in the UK with a good price with discount and very good 0% interest price plan, just need to find a buyer for my 77CX, I just need to wait on a in-stock or delivery date, I'm just hoping the extra 6inchs makes a difference, I was finding 90-100inch whether it be mini led or oled was just too expensive for high quality top tier panel and brand, so I was hearing very very good feedback with G4 and the deal on offer was just too irresistible to not buy one.
loking this and the new tvs minileds seem lke the tv leds can reach almots the deep black of a oled
Epic intro. I love it!
So glad you enjoyed!
Great Review!!! Thank u.
Great video as usual. The demonstrator explanations convinced me, its not just about power but the control of the power of the TV. Sony appear to have nailed it with the Bravia 9. Its a pity about the lack of 55 and 65 inch TVs in UK, that is illogical and assuming I could afford to purchase a 55 or 65 they would get my custom. Without those sizes I have to look elsewhere. Shame.
Look forward to the A95l vs B9 vid will there be a shock
Hey B would you switch from OLED to this Bravia 9?.😊
What tv was the competitor miniled?
This thing needs safety warnings because it's so bright! 😎
Would need side by side comparison. It's still will be hard to compare, in person is probably best
Looks promising. My only wish is for a size that is larger than 90" as LG G4 97" is way too expansive.
4,000 nits! Brian, that's ridiculous!
I really want to see a Z9K and Bravia 9 comparison 🤔
The Sony A95L was pretty close to the Bravia 9’s gradation, that combined with infinite contrast, I’m still in favour with the QD OLed
Need to make a @leon studio frame for the BRAVIA 9!!!!!!!
Can't wait
If u can make more content on the bravia 7, that'd be nice
Bravia 7 vs Bravia 9 comparison would be nice to see if the extra money is worth it for the Bravia 9.
This
Does the Bravia 7 come with the film on the screen?
I bought the Bravia 7, but it doesn't seem to be bright enough.
Any advice?
Thank you
Yeah , return it and get the 9
I’m waiting until the end of the year to scoop up either a 83 G4 or a 85 Bravia 9. Any thoughts?
Those are my same choices. Going to wait till the pros measure them up and then I'll make my choice. Patience is key but it will definitely be one or the other for me.
I’m with you as well. But lately leaning more and more towards G4.
Is the 85" 9 $2000 better than the 7. Thanks for doing this. Hope you bring these to MWAVE. Ill see you there.
In Germany the different (official price) is Bravia 9 85“ 5.000€, Bravia7 85“ 3.800€
And LG G4 83“, official price 8.699€!!
I saw few retailers floating €8,7k price but it’s like with scalpers 😂 Real LG retailers are having pre-orders at €6 400 before any discounts. This is realistic, rest is bullsh…😊
We'd love to see the Bravia 7 & 9 vs X95L. None of this will prove anything until we see it.
I like the F1 analogy but is this a Haas or a Ferrari?
review the 85 size pls
I'm interested in what 4k nits looks like it in a dark room 👀
Big question is what is the bravia 9 like when it comes to gaming no mention of gaming vs Qd and MLA vs pixel response and infinite contrast and gaming features input lag , 144hz not one mention of any of that .
Sony are still stuck in the stoneage with 120hz. Dont care about pc gamers
Lg G4 is still going to be your best bet for gaming.
Does anyone know if the 85" bravia 9 has toslink optical digital output? I have SONOS and want to hook it up
So the MiniLED competitor is not the Samsung QN90 or QN95? Because neither of those have more zones than the B9 at 65" or brighter. Only QM851g etc would be brighter etc.
A samsung qn95c has 1344 zones at 65 vs the b9 at 65 with 1512 zones.
Last year X95L defeat Samsung, TCL and Hisense with much less zones (see review of HDTV test). Imagine with processing power and more zones than their competitor, this tv probably more like OLED-like tv with Godly brightness
Bravia 9 vs G4 is the ringside event this year Brian!!
Which one is better??
Is sony planing a release of an 8k mini led tv?
The Z9L released in Japan but was a rebadge of the Z9k. I doubt we will see another 8k Sony for awhile
@@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY Thanks @Brian
Can't allow myself to me too excited because this year I need a 55in & the B9 doesn't have a 55in this year 😢
Bravia 7 will be coming with a 55in! That will be a comparable tv to 2023 X95L that wasnt available under 85 in the US
The B9 won't though.
Yeah I could live with the step down version even though I'm sure it's great.
Brian if the Bravia 7 performs as good as the X95L then I'm getting the Bravia 7 the Bravia 9 price is not justified in my opinion. Also I'm still deciding between the New 65" TCL QM851 & the Sony Bravia 7. FOMO reviewed the TCL QM851 today and it seems that Black Crush was fixed.
X95L baby ! Can't go wrong
How's the viewing angles?
Or the Bravia 8 against the A95L would be interesting to 🤔
Yes. And I also want to see B8 vs G4!
Bravia 8 used LG OLED panels , same panels as LG C4/C4 models
The Bravia 8 compared to the A80L would be more appropriate since it’s the replacement for the less than 83” version.
Whoop whoop
does it mean that with 4000 nits peak brightness the 9 does not require any form of DTM up to 4000 nits? thinking HDR games on next game consoles, this could be beneficial…any thoughts?
Yes, normally on a oled tv there is clipping lost of detail because its not bright enough to show very bright hdr highlights. Since this tv was made for 4k nit content it can show you all the details and color in 4k nit just like the director intented.
@@user-oq6sc1qm4j not realy. The B9 is more a 3000nit tv but thanks tonits greater prozessing and tonemapping it can show nearly all details from 4knit content
Going try stay up for this one,,,😂
I don't think many of us have the money for this. I sure as hell don't. If I did, I'd have an 85-inch Bravia 9 mini-LED and 77-inch A95L QD-OLED, each on rolling TV stands. I'd roll the Bravia 9 mini-LED into my viewing area during the day, when I have my lights on, or when I need extra HDR impact. I'd roll the A95L QD-OLED into my viewing area at night, when I have my lights off and curtains closed, or when I need the best color performance and accuracy more than I need brightness. Right now, this is what I'D recommend if money was no object. Also, I connect my laptop to my TV and home theater system for streaming and my Blu-ray player for playing content which quality is more important than convenience. I hope the Bravia 9 will be able to boost SDR Blu-rays and DVDs and 1000-nit HDR10 and Dolby Vision Blu-ray content up to 4,000 nits while preserving the detail Eric/Erik described.
Have them mounted next to each other with hdmi splitters and there you go. Or the A95l 77” in the bedroom and the 85” Bravia 9 in the living room. Don’t forget to install the hta-9000 plus sub and satellite speakers.
No 55" option and no 65" version available in the UK makes this an automatic non starter for me. I struggle to rationalise the decision not to offer 65" in the UK where homes are generally smaller....
Also would be cool to know if they will offer smaller screen sizes next year perhaps even monitors?
Looking forward to seeing side-by-side with the G4 regardless, especially with PC gaming..
I don't see any country outside NA where they're offering the 65" version. They'll regret their bad business decisions. The larger sizes really won't sell much.
It was the exact opposite last year with the X95L because we didn't get the 65" or 75" in the U.S. I might have gotten a 65" had it been available. I do plan on getting the 65" Bravia 9 if it is truly better than the Z9D when it comes to local dimming.:)
Sony is daft when it cones to UK choices
Doesnt the Sony Z9 series already hitting 4000 nits? And are there still going to be a Master Series going forward?
It is a master series
Sony Z9 is an 8k Tv and power hungry. And the price that most costumer can't buy
@@NexGenTek So the Bravia 9 is Master Series? Sorry just trying to verify.
@@danielkudo4800Yeah tell me about it. Im still recovering 😅...but the picture quality is awesome!
I got the 75" Z8H back in 2021...but I had a chance to get an 85" and the wifey was in a good mood and OK'd the Z9K 🤯. So I didnt even think twice 😂.
But the picture quality is awesome!!! The Z9K is the 8K model for 2022-2024...and Im down 😉
@@AnythingGoesJoJo Yes
How would the 85 Bravia 9 be against the A95L 77 ?hm the 85 Bravia 9 is even cheaper than the A95L 77 🤧😂 the 85 Bravia 9 is now 4789.90€ in vienna 😅
I pre ordered the 85" but i am scared of the screen lottery 😳
Don't be afraid, my friend . Sony's quality control is very good, especially at the larger sizes.
@@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY Brian thank you for your video. Any ideas if SONY uses the same display panels across all the size of the B9 this year? I hope they dont replicate the strategy used in x95K & x95L
►0:26 Thanks🙏
... what about blooming, as there is none on oled TVs ...?
It will have blooming. It is impossible for any mini LED to not have blooming. I don't mind blooming. If blooming is a deal breaker then look at oled. You need pixel level control and self emmesive technology for no blooming. My room is dark and i still prefer a bright LED tv so blooming will be more apparent.
People who complain about blooming at this point are really just pixel peeping. The nerd in them are doing this because at the back of their head, the said phenomenon doesn't happen in an alternate technology.
@@williammaverickHave you ever seen a TV that has no blooming?
... well, everybody has got his own demands and priorities regarding PQ, as I have been very happily living with an oled these past years and only watch films/episodes in the dark, and know myself quite well, I am sure I wouldn't accept any unnecessary blooming, hence my question ...
But to be honest, I already knew the answer, as there is no way a multi thousand backlight zones lcd can compete with the, by analogy, 8 294 400 backlight zones any oled can boast ...
The latest and trendy trick lcd makers use so that blooming is barely visible, is to considerably diminish brightness on scenes where the dreaded blooming will otherwise show, which in effect kills the brighness advantage lcd TVs still have compared with oled TVs ...
@@williammaverick ... the said people, who are no nerds, have got eyes and a good eyesight, and they have the right not to stand any trace of blooming, PQ wise, simply because said blooming doesn't exist in real life, and solely is the by product of backlight technology, with or without mini leds ...
Hopefully, everyone can buy any kind of technology that pleases his taste, and can behappy that blooming "enhances" the PQ of what he is watching ...
Take less brightness over blooming, even slight blooming any day.
I'm just waiting to see a honest comparison
Bunch of Nit Pickers ! 😁
Let's go !!! :)
2:54 I honestly thought you cut to an actual chandelier. What an image.
😂😂
Wish there would have actually been some content footage in the video. There is just a color square and backlight. The square with gradients is cool to see how it can resolve it all the way compared to even QDOLED. But they did show a lot of demos too why didn't you film it? Would have been nice to see it in action. I'm just starving for picture content ha ha.
Nice information though.
Simply because I can't film copyright material my friend. The demos were actual films. Thank you for watching
@@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY OK. I have seen some other UA-camrs that also saw the roadshow showing a few images from. It. I guess a few seconds or stills should be allowed. It's annoying with how UA-cam is too strict so we can't see proper footage. Just seeing OLED demos and spears and munsil never really tells us what a TV looks like in content.
Sony learned from the Apple hype machine…Still haven’t heard anyone say anything negative about this TV other than price; not sure if it’s because an embargo or what but, people keep repeating Sony’s talking points…That should tell you something…
Please compare the Bravia 9 against the G4. Equally priced OLED vs mini led would be a great comparison
But the G4 is much more expensive....
@@91DivineAngel They’re the same price at the 65” size, but yeah looks like at the 75/77+ sizes the price gap starts to widen
okay so wot content out there that support 4.000 nits for films or show & for gaming on ps5
None yet, but unlike 8k, 4000 nit mastering monitors are starting to be used by film studios, so it’s just a matter of time.
😮😮😮
Elegant local dimming 😂😂😂
Mmkay
How about wonderful? Fantastic? Spectacular? Really good? 🤣🤣
@@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY seductive and sexy?
The brightest QD OLED can't hit more than 1600 nits in HDR, but the reason you'll buy a QD OLED or an OLED isn't the brightness alone, it's the overall picture quality 😉. Now this Bravia 9 TV is great but how about the blooming in challenging dark scenes? Will it be able to handle that department like a QD OLED or an OLED in general??
it’s a non issue with blooming. it’s interesting how people are arguing still about blooming and saying it will bloom like an onion when most of this video content they are showing are black backgrounds, showing off how much of a break through the local dimming is and these high brightness and color vibrancy testing scenes . Brian i hope you keep showing these dark performance scenes, mixed with high color volume and brightness images. you always hit it right on the head with content and breaking it down! Keep it up!
I love that Sony was basically tired of people saying that their processing was just marketing spiel so they made a marketing spiel proving that their processing is in fact superior😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Mr. Brian, I'm going to go out on a limb And say that the Sony Bravia TV 9 will be 📺 of the year, whether its OLED or LCD 🖥. It will definitely be the best Mini LED 🖥 to date. Watch Samsung, TCL, Hisense and others step up their Mini LED game for the 2025 📺 lineup!!
Its kinda ridiculous to say that the number of zones doesn't matter. Of course it matters. Thats why every year we see an increase, and blooming suppression is improved. You can't have perfect blacks with 2000 zones... Also which model are they comparing Bravia 9 to? Last year's flagship TV or this year's?
He said what he said 👏🏽👏🏽
Vivement en France ;o)