Captivating, thank you. To think that some if not all of the fables predate Ancient Greece is mindblowing. At Æsop's Teachings, we believe that all fables are still relevant and highlight important aspects of our shared human condition.
The Aesopic tradition is so complex and multifaceted that it's really hard to do a brief summary like this and be precise without errors creeping in. It sounds like the encyclopedia cites conflicting sources and then does not attempt to reconcile them. Defining fables by the presence of talking animals doesn't fit the data, for example. Aesop's ancient biography (The Life of Aesop), for example, depicts him telling a dozen fables or so and only a couple of these contain talking animals. Talking animal stories in Egypt or proverbs/short fables from the Near East indeed ante-date the Greek tradition of fables, but the former are not fables (again talking animals is not a genre criterion) and the latter are often considered proverbs since they're mostly two lines long. It is likely though that the Near East is the originator of the genre. Aesop is not a Greek. He is usually called a Phrygian (possibly of black ancentry because of his name Aesop = Aethop(ian)) and the fable tradition as a whole was recognized by the Greek tradition to be a Near Eastern import. There is no evidence that Aesop's fables were committed to writing in the 6th century (1:36).The presenter or the encyclopedia has apparently mixed up a reference that appears in the Life of Aesop, written some 500 years later. The earliest written collection, as the presenter says later, is probably from Demetrius of Phalerum a couple centuries later. The purpose of fables was/is not singular and depends on the collection and person wielding them. They could be about morals, or they could be used in a way nothing to do with morals, as in rhetoric (e.g. Aristotle). There is an important difference between "Aesop's Fables" and "Aesopic fables," which is understandably confusing, but should not be a mistake made by an encyclopedia. The 750 figure is of "Aesopic fables," the end tally found in Ben Edwin Perry's book, "Aesopica", which is a standard scholarly reference work. It includes a couple hundred that were composed by known authors in late antiquity, in the Middle Ages or later that were writting in the Aesopic style. "Aesop's fables" on the other hand, are the collections of a few hundred that the presenter mentions confusingly a couple times. She is probably making reference to the ancient collection of prose fables that numbers about 250 and is attributed to Aesop rather than those by later authors who are writing in the Aesopic style. This is very obscure information that I happen to know far too much about.
Very informative and eye opening. It is true that Aegyptians had a similar myths but i doubt Aesop`s Fable comes from them. He may though took the idea from them or even got some fables from them but as far as i met him in ancient literature he seems to be a fables teller and not a writer as a self-created man and also as an on time creation of the fables according to the symposiums reasons, speeches, etc. He also was saying myths according to acts and events at crouds, forums etc etc where usually others wrote down what he was saying. Thanks, i will keep it in mind.
Just a bit of history. Most of what we know about Aesop comes to us from the 14th century a Byzantine Greek monk, Maximus Planudes who described Aesop as flat nosed with thick lips and pendulous black skin. Aethiops 1. Any of dark-skinned peoples living in Upper Egypt or beyond. 2.Ethiopian The word 'Aesop' is a Greek corruption of the word, Ethiop. Sadly, his life came to a sad end, but his stories have lived through centuries.
@riverbend Sorry son, but that's what history and eyewitnesses tell us, even though that's not what you want to believe even though you have no idea of Africa's history.
We've been using the BCE/CE dating system for over 10 years now and we'll continue to use it. You can find out more about it here: worldhistory.org/article/1041/the-origin--history-of-the-bcece-dating-system/
There are a few ancient authors who write about him. Most say that he's a Greek (born in Lydia, Sardis or Phrygia). But I don't think we'll know for sure, one way or another.
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Do you know of any other Aesop Fables with a moral or a saying that is still common today?
Stone at community bath entrance.
The boy who cried wolf.
Captivating, thank you. To think that some if not all of the fables predate Ancient Greece is mindblowing. At Æsop's Teachings, we believe that all fables are still relevant and highlight important aspects of our shared human condition.
This channel deserves way more views. Keep up the great videos.
After watching this rich video 😊,I'm certainly going to be using fables in my style of writing in poetry..... thanks alot😊...
I imagine this girl. Reading to me each and EVERY day. I could listen to her voice for the rest of my life
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The Aesopic tradition is so complex and multifaceted that it's really hard to do a brief summary like this and be precise without errors creeping in. It sounds like the encyclopedia cites conflicting sources and then does not attempt to reconcile them. Defining fables by the presence of talking animals doesn't fit the data, for example. Aesop's ancient biography (The Life of Aesop), for example, depicts him telling a dozen fables or so and only a couple of these contain talking animals. Talking animal stories in Egypt or proverbs/short fables from the Near East indeed ante-date the Greek tradition of fables, but the former are not fables (again talking animals is not a genre criterion) and the latter are often considered proverbs since they're mostly two lines long. It is likely though that the Near East is the originator of the genre. Aesop is not a Greek. He is usually called a Phrygian (possibly of black ancentry because of his name Aesop = Aethop(ian)) and the fable tradition as a whole was recognized by the Greek tradition to be a Near Eastern import. There is no evidence that Aesop's fables were committed to writing in the 6th century (1:36).The presenter or the encyclopedia has apparently mixed up a reference that appears in the Life of Aesop, written some 500 years later. The earliest written collection, as the presenter says later, is probably from Demetrius of Phalerum a couple centuries later. The purpose of fables was/is not singular and depends on the collection and person wielding them. They could be about morals, or they could be used in a way nothing to do with morals, as in rhetoric (e.g. Aristotle). There is an important difference between "Aesop's Fables" and "Aesopic fables," which is understandably confusing, but should not be a mistake made by an encyclopedia. The 750 figure is of "Aesopic fables," the end tally found in Ben Edwin Perry's book, "Aesopica", which is a standard scholarly reference work. It includes a couple hundred that were composed by known authors in late antiquity, in the Middle Ages or later that were writting in the Aesopic style. "Aesop's fables" on the other hand, are the collections of a few hundred that the presenter mentions confusingly a couple times. She is probably making reference to the ancient collection of prose fables that numbers about 250 and is attributed to Aesop rather than those by later authors who are writing in the Aesopic style. This is very obscure information that I happen to know far too much about.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
You don't happen to know far too much about
Respectfully 😊
Thank you for sharing by the way 🙏🏽
Wow I didn't know the term (wolf in sheep's clothing) actually came from Aesop wow✨✨✨
To be honest, I originally thought the Boy Who Cried Wolf was a real story.
India and China also has similar stories. Hope the present compiler will make further addition to her collections.
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India had more philosophers and religious leaders than China for sure
Good content as usual!
Are these all animals native to Greece ?
Very informative and eye opening. It is true that Aegyptians had a similar myths but i doubt Aesop`s Fable comes from them. He may though took the idea from them or even got some fables from them but as far as i met him in ancient literature he seems to be a fables teller and not a writer as a self-created man and also as an on time creation of the fables according to the symposiums reasons, speeches, etc. He also was saying myths according to acts and events at crouds, forums etc etc where usually others wrote down what he was saying. Thanks, i will keep it in mind.
do a video on Panchatantra
Aesop 's fables originated in India in around 3rd B. C. ,which traveled to Arab, Persia, Spain, so on and so forth.
it would be cool to make video about the mesopotamian egyptian stories inserted in aesop
So that is where the term sour grapes comes from. BTW...Kelly is a great story teller. 🥰
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who were ancient Egyptian?where were they lived? I thank u so much!
great video !
Thanks so much, Kimberly!
Fox and grape is the original "Cope and Seethe"
Thank you😊
Our pleasure, Ana. Thanks for watching! 🙂
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Just a bit of history. Most of what we know about Aesop comes to us from the 14th century a Byzantine Greek monk, Maximus Planudes who described Aesop as flat nosed with thick lips and pendulous black skin.
Aethiops
1. Any of dark-skinned peoples living in Upper Egypt or beyond.
2.Ethiopian
The word 'Aesop' is a Greek corruption of the word, Ethiop. Sadly, his life came to a sad end, but his stories have lived through centuries.
@riverbend Sorry son, but that's what history and eyewitnesses tell us, even though that's not what you want to believe
even though you have no idea of Africa's history.
The Lion and the Mouse :always need help from third parties regardless their power....
It is better to use BC rather than BCE. Thank you.
Before common eara? What happened to make this eara so common? 😁 maybe the birth of a certain someone
We've been using the BCE/CE dating system for over 10 years now and we'll continue to use it. You can find out more about it here: worldhistory.org/article/1041/the-origin--history-of-the-bcece-dating-system/
He also was a black man . And a slave AESOP /ETHIOP / BLACK
There are a few ancient authors who write about him. Most say that he's a Greek (born in Lydia, Sardis or Phrygia). But I don't think we'll know for sure, one way or another.
He was just as black as Cleopatra or Ptolemy or Buddha or Pythagoras