Its far to early to tell, but I get the sense that the game will be much more east and west. Making you get creative to get time and space, meaning defense should be easier. I pray we can actually stick lift again lol
It's the same thing every year. Guys cry and bitch about how bad the game is and they say they will never buy it again. Then EA makes up sone new buzz word and the same idiots are ready to preorder the game again.
I think a major issue is that major sport games just arent meant to be played the amount that the player base consumes them in HUT and WOC specifically. In the good old days franchise would see big updates each year and we would almost make our own fun? Now even the casual player will put in 5-10 weeks for even 6 months out of the year and thats just a huge amount of time played on a game dev cycle thats essentially 12 weeks a year. I have been baited in the past, and have gotten so caught up in the hype over the years but the longer Im in the industry I get a better handle on if a game will meet, fall far below or exceed the general player base expectations. I think 25 will surprise Franchise mode players and HUT finally has a different weekly play cycle. Its got a shot to be better than 23 and 24 and thats all I hope for lol.
I fall into this category 😂! But I don’t play any other video games.. I tried golf but hard to find a good game! And honestly.. I freaking love hockey!!!
Disclaimer : Yes, it is only an update to 24 that we pay for, I agree with the general complaints, Im sorely talking gameplay wise What people fail to acknowledge is that one of the main isssues of this game is its community, 90% of the players still play pre NHL23 hitting fest braindead northsouth crosscrease forcing OR they do the same 2-3 cheesy plays every game, refusing to learn buttons let alone new mechanics like holding R1 or RB for a few secs then R stick up for a huge dump or understanding that on D you can crosscheck anybody that posts up in the slot every 2sec as long as you dont move your left stick there is no risk of penalty untill the opponent stops posting up. Or that passing without handling the R joystick is a shotgun pass and that handling the right joystick makes the pass much better and allows to pick a passing lane instead of using the default one thats easy to read or poke. Or that if you sticklift the opponent your stick needs to be on the same side as his and at the right gap distance aka not too close not too far which promotes gap management, when I acknowledged that mechanic, I could then stick lift all game with almost never taking a penalty for it, Im so used to its mechanic that i actively do it to people without the puck, it is not a penalty button. I agree that people that get hit shouldnt get up that quick after big hits but that is a prime example of EA going away from arcade hit fest by drasticly nerfing hitting forcing players to play actual team defense which is great and shows how EA is taking steps towards realism and having a fair counter system, in 25 they said players will stay down longer after big hits especially if they are smaller, smaller players wlll hit less powerfully and biggger players will hit harder, we'll see. Also having the option to either crosscheck or shoulder check is another step towards realism and is very efficient if used at the right moment, for example on D you can use your positioning to box someone out and if you land a good poke or sweep you come in with a crosscheck to then have an easy puck pickup for either you or whoever was supporting you, it sounds hard but its very effective and doesnt take long to master. Almost nobody realizes that there is a good counter system meaning there is a counter to every single thing in the game and that it is actually trying to be more of a simulation in some ways : they actively try to reward east west hockey getting away from the repetitive and boring north south meta, it got away from the hitting meta, now its about positinioning taking runs with the carrier while you have support watching mid to create 2 on 1 pockets on D or offense instead of going for 50-50 defensive plays and run and gun offense(thats why alot of players think the game is bad), it promotes cycling, rebound shots, creativty, stick sweeps, tips, screens, support plays, teamwork, etc. You cant beat good teams if you dont play as team now, otherwise you'll only beat bad teams. If you actually watch hockey a lot youd know more than half of goals scored are garbage goals so even that is realistic to a degree but it is ruined by EAs DDA. That being said, I agree that they should show a unified front and seperate EASHL from Chel instead of taking steps towards a more realistc gameplay but adding arcade stuff like fortnite skins in club and such, making it hard for players who do not understand videogame programming(no shame in that) to see the effort towards realism and the conflict of interest within EA to push arcady stuff and of course heavily interfere with the game with DDA(they adjust tuners during games to compensate for the skill gap more than ever). EASHLshould be full simulation no intereference from EA. For example if youre down 0-2 but you control the game but you have 10x more passes than the other team the DDA will still help the opponents by adjusting tuners, thats why there is alot of cheap goals, if DDA wasnt a thing it would be easier for people to see the steps towards realism that the devs taking. Sorry for the long message but I think its important to stay neutral in this situation. Your complains will hopefully push EA to act so please dont stop. Aslo it should be a new game every 2-3 years, they can sell alot of DLC, skins and packs while updating the game to keep the money flowing and it would prevent them from having less than 9months to work on a new game. Also another thing that was new from this year is that they kept updating the game for months after 24s release which was never done before. I also think the 1 timers will be OP for the first few weeks in 25 so that everybody can score and then they'll nerf it a few weeks later, typical EA thing to do and isnt needed at all. Be A pro not being changed and the new HUT reward system are jokes though. We are paying for 1 big update I know, but this text was about the game itself. I study hockey daily, watch alot of it and am a top player in HUT and EASHL for a long time on top of playing franchise mode alot for more than 20years, I also am good at programming games and understand their mechanics, yes EAs programming is rushed and flawed(ex : hitting someone thats behind you is bad/rushed programmation of the way the hitting animation interects with other players hitboxes, but thats really hard to program, they need years not months for it to be perfect. TLDR : Since NHL23 its a new dev team and you can truly see the effort towards a better game I think, they just have to show a unified front not a mix of arcade and realist concepts mixed together leaving the playerbase confused.
I promise vision control wont look like what you are describing, but I cant gaurentee the player base wont find some new way to exploit it. Could be better, could be worse
To be honest, when I heard about the grudge match thing I was pumped just because by December you basically play the same 10 people because you find your spot in Rivals. Itll be nice to see how you have matched up and how it will impact the game, there is definitely a lot more to the system then the small blurb so I am pumped for you guys to see it.
It would genuinely take around an hour to code a massive crowd improvement. If you are getting cooked your crowd should slowly dissipate and be damn near nonexistent at the end of a blowout loss. I cant stand playing a chel club match and seeing the home crowd all cheer like they tied the cup final when the score improves from 0-6 to 1-6 with 1:47 left in the third. If you lose 7-8+ games in a row your max crowd should decrease and fan engagement should be shit.
In NHL game with a realistic presentation would actually be unbelievable. Imagine if when you scored in overtime, the AI dog piled you instead of just skating away lol
Im 100% with you on this, I would love more realism in that aspect. Im a big proponent on the tradition NBC type broadcast but that might just be because I am old.
so many problems would have been solved if they only made 1 last game and made updates to it instead, they would have more time to make more changes and players wouldnt be mad because they have to pay this crazy amount of money every f*ing year.
Exhaust engine better be scrapped in this edition. As primarily an EASHL club player, customization, menus, servers, builds, earnings, accolades all need an upgrade. Above all of that though, ffs EA fix the broken gameplay first.
Don't let EA Sports Vancouver or the content creators fool you into thinking massive changes are coming in NHL 25. If you see "#EAPartner" in the description they were paid by EA to read a script of lies. Happens every year, yet people continue to buy the game and complain.
Not exactly, by law you have to say if you’re paid or not. It’s literally a law. sometimes it just means that they were given early access or information that other people don’t get. But I understand the frustration with people liking a game that you don’t like because people can’t have their own opinion.
I used to work at the food bank and used to pick up the donations from EA Vancouver Nothing was ever happening. Quietest building ever. Office buildings were louder. You’d think it’d be the opposite. They had basketball, soccer, tennis etc. courts that were always empty. I wonder why that was the case..
@@GOCAPSDMVHe was most likely paid by ea to put this video out. Nothing wrong with that but don’t be so naive. You think he’d get on here and trash it? He’d lose his access.
@@scottconrad4719 buddy look at what ea themselves say on thier page about the creator program, also. By law, you would have to see if you were paid or not. Who is the naïve one now?
I would have loved to have gotten paid for this video, however unfortunately this video was entirely done by me and my own opinions on it. I think people like yourself get upset if a creator makes a video covering the new game and doesnt just trash it from start to finish. Thats just a silly way to go about it, of course I am excited about the new game we are all addicted to hockey and this (sometimes unfortunately) is our only video game outlet for it. I will always give my real opinion on the game, and unless a piece of content is legit posted on the EA NHL account no one is paid. The "EA Partner" tag is meant to be an explainer to how we received an early look to make the content. Year over year, I am not sure how much can actually change in a yearly sport game. Its the most broken and archaic model in the gaming industry because it was started in the 90s and that was far before the majority of the player base switched to playing online. I think NHL 25 will have some nice quality of life stuff but the gameplay changes we have no idea until the player base gets a hand on them.
Can we get box scores for all games played on any day during the season? Madden does it, MLB The Show does it (for AAA and AA as well), it can't be difficult to do it in NHL. Also, can we get stats that accurately reflect what's going on in a season, such as a team's ACTUAL winning or losing streak, a player's individual stats vs any given team during that season and/or for their career, etc.? Again, it's not difficult and would add to a player's lore against certain teams (rivals?) and would deepen the immersion of franchise and BAP modes. Also, can the game keep track of players who injure other players and maybe have a blurb about said injury in the teams' next matchup? I.e., "Marchand injured (whomever) last time these two teams played..." or "Byram was injured by (whomever) in their last matchup, but he's back now and looking for revenge..." I suppose it doesn't need to be that detailed, but it's still something that could be included in pre-game notes or something.
You have to distinguish between one timers from the dots and backdoor tap ins. You're definitely referring to the latter, as I scored a lot of those too. But true, traditional one timers from distance haven't gone in in years.
I would guess that you are referring to back door tap ins, I dont classify that as one timers. Im talking about point shots or even a guy in the face off dot. The change to human goalie animations in 23 made the one timer almost none existent in 1v1 because they get this huge slide animations.
Can we mod the controlls? I absolutely hated the changes to ‘24 with the quick dekes and hitting etc. If I can hold x to protect the puck again I will consider purchase… if not… guess I’m playing’23 for another season
First: It's not the first time. The Nordic release of NHL11 had the Sedin twins on the cover. Second: I'm finally forced to buy a next gen console.. should I get Xbox or PS?
I play NHL on a PS4 and don't take it too seriously but still would like to play ultimate team with updated players, but I'm not getting a PS5 so now I can't
I know this is pretty useless but they should update the customization and equipment options and make some like different tape jobs and customizable stick colours because all NHL players now use custom colors. I just don’t get why they don’t do that.
Exactly! I feel like customization of your chel / be a pro player is completely trash. I wish I could change my skate and stick colours to different colourways, and we desperately need new faces, hair and facial hair options like nba 2k and mlb
Improved ai would be enough for me, constantly having to dodge pylon teamates or having a 2 on 1 and my teamate just stops skating or veers off into the boards for no reason. Dumping old gen looks like better graphics i noticed that before i knew old gen was dumped. I hope wildcard isnt just changing modes like last year. Universal progression is good so long as the rewards arent dogshit. I hope its good but man its hard to be optimistic with EA.
All this is all fine but question did the fix the chel bugs, menu bugs, lobby bugs, ingame bugs in defence lack of defensive tools to intercept passes, stick luft and bump. And goalie beeing handikappad from pass glitch goals and game tilt. You can play outstanding for 59:45 seconds to letting in a flipper shot every second game. Goslies are players to
Better have put more NHL faces in the game if they used some new fancy tech to make their animations better Literally the starting goalie for the Canucks doesn’t have his face in the game and he’s bin in the NHL for over half a decade
I agree, I know its super difficult to get the updated face scans because I think they have to basically bring that camera setup to every training camp but I agree they need everyone!
@@SleevelessGaming they don’t even need to have great face scan just make a face look half realistic for the lower level players. Even just matching the right hair color.
Im afraid that the use of the sapien tech is going to make the amount of player faces even worse because it's supposed to be a full body camera setup so they almost certainly discontinued the old way of scanning players and now the only guarantees for new scans this year will be the hughes brothers and a handful of Canucks + the most prominent rookies , from all the sports games NHL series is the worst at getting this right and I wish the players union would do something about it
The NHL series is by far the game I play the most. I’m in a few leagues (AGL, NAVHL, played some LG when I had time), and I love the competition and the fun with friends. WoC-imo-is the best mode and the true multiplayer experience that sport games strive for. But, it’s been frustrating over the years with bad human-goalie animations, L2 spammers (which are basically gone Thank God), and X-Factor abilities that really need to be dropped altogether. I’m hoping that WoC sees positive change. Last year’s Fortnite-ification of NHL was tough to be a part of. I understand they’re trying to get casual fans and of course kids. But then give us multiple options for WoC in terms of gameplay: Arcade and Simulation. It’s ok to have 3-2, 5-3 games in WoC. That’s real hockey, something a lot of us players actually want. That’s what a simulation, pro mode should be. They’re supposed to be pro players, right? Let us have that in WoC. Let skills matter, not X-Factors and sloppy Arcade hits, or pucks that magically stick to checked players.
Do you have anything else to say about the presentation, namely the pre game intros so that you can see the goalie introduction in the offline mdoes etc.
I wish they would do 2-year release windows. If you want to take a real leap EA bring it to VR. Give us actual vision control. Give us ChatGPT powered ai that actually talk and respond to their environment/conversation. I'd gladly wait another 3 or 4 years for a new NHL release.
All I need from Franchise mode is the ability to see your line fits and stuff in the offseason so you arent blindsided by what your real team looks like when the calendar rolls over..
They literally changed nothing and this is an update not a new game definitely not buying this crap and how good will it all work out on high ping games?
I am 55, have been playing NHL from EA every year since NHL Hockey back in 1991 on my Sega Genesis. Now it's like I have been playing the same game for years, I am not impressed by the development team making us pay big bucks each year for little upgrades and average graphics. Once again, I won't buy until black Friday since that game never lifts up and gets cheaper all the time by end of november!
This use to be my favorite game. They do stuff that should have been done 5 years ago and expect people to get hype about it. Sad part is there is people who still get excited for this copy and paste game
I think you misunderstood the grudge match system, it’s about teams. For example, there would be specific stuff for a matchup between the Los Angeles Kings and San Jose Sharks
From my understanding it is in offline and online modes. For example in HUT if you match with someone you ahve played regularly you will get a recent games performance breakdown in games between you and that player.
@@SleevelessGaming I guess that makes sense, but I’m assuming it will work differently offline and online since it has some feature where players get special X-Factors from previous matchups against that team. If you haven’t seen that, it’s from the press release for the game
Looks good, but hopefully they keep the controls for the controller as are now in nhl24 and not have the community complaining and wanting certain controls for their controller back into the game.
The franchise streamlined will be great last year in franchise mode and past years they only allowed you to control one team and provide maintenance to one team thanks to you guys we kno there is a streamlined option in franchise now which prolly means control ALL 33 TEAMS in in the mode and no more players being moved without your permission during the season that's what was needed I think NHL 25 will bring hockey back to how it was in the 90's
Great breakdown Sleeves! I immediately pre-ordered the deluxe edition and got the 99 Jack Hughes 😜! I am old and this is literally the only video game I play and EA is so lucky that they are the only game in town! Hahaha
Sleeveless I got to know! I am so hyped more than ever for this game since it is only next gen finally!! But I got to know is full presentation back because that would the cherry on top and I was hearing multiple voices in the trailer! Does that mean multiple broadcasters?
I like the screen of US Gamer saying the new skating is unreal. A bit wondering how the change to vision control isn't a reversion to 2 years ago when they say you can now face the net....isn't that what it was and how it was spammed to make people skate so unrealistically?
Disclaimer : Yes, it is only an update to 24 that we pay for, I agree with the general complaints, Im sorely talking gameplay wise What people fail to acknowledge is that one of the main isssues of this game is its community, 90% of the players still play pre NHL23 hitting fest braindead northsouth crosscrease forcing OR they do the same 2-3 cheesy plays every game, refusing to learn buttons let alone new mechanics like holding R1 or RB for a few secs then R stick up for a huge dump or understanding that on D you can crosscheck anybody that posts up in the slot every 2sec as long as you dont move your left stick there is no risk of penalty untill the opponent stops posting up. Or that passing without handling the R joystick is a shotgun pass and that handling the right joystick makes the pass much better and allows to pick a passing lane instead of using the default one thats easy to read or poke. Or that if you sticklift the opponent your stick needs to be on the same side as his and at the right gap distance aka not too close not too far which promotes gap management, when I acknowledged that mechanic, I could then stick lift all game with almost never taking a penalty for it, Im so used to its mechanic that i actively do it to people without the puck, it is not a penalty button. I agree that people that get hit shouldnt get up that quick after big hits but that is a prime example of EA going away from arcade hit fest by drasticly nerfing hitting forcing players to play actual team defense which is great and shows how EA is taking steps towards realism and having a fair counter system, in 25 they said players will stay down longer after big hits especially if they are smaller, smaller players wlll hit less powerfully and biggger players will hit harder, we'll see. Also having the option to either crosscheck or shoulder check is another step towards realism and is very efficient if used at the right moment, for example on D you can use your positioning to box someone out and if you land a good poke or sweep you come in with a crosscheck to then have an easy puck pickup for either you or whoever was supporting you, it sounds hard but its very effective and doesnt take long to master. Almost nobody realizes that there is a good counter system meaning there is a counter to every single thing in the game and that it is actually trying to be more of a simulation in some ways : they actively try to reward east west hockey getting away from the repetitive and boring north south meta, it got away from the hitting meta, now its about positinioning taking runs with the carrier while you have support watching mid to create 2 on 1 pockets on D or offense instead of going for 50-50 defensive plays and run and gun offense(thats why alot of players think the game is bad), it promotes cycling, rebound shots, creativty, stick sweeps, tips, screens, support plays, teamwork, etc. You cant beat good teams if you dont play as team now, otherwise you'll only beat bad teams. If you actually watch hockey a lot youd know more than half of goals scored are garbage goals so even that is realistic to a degree but it is ruined by EAs DDA. That being said, I agree that they should show a unified front and seperate EASHL from Chel instead of taking steps towards a more realistc gameplay but adding arcade stuff like fortnite skins in club and such, making it hard for players who do not understand videogame programming(no shame in that) to see the effort towards realism and the conflict of interest within EA to push arcady stuff and of course heavily interfere with the game with DDA(they adjust tuners during games to compensate for the skill gap more than ever). EASHLshould be full simulation no intereference from EA. For example if youre down 0-2 but you control the game but you have 10x more passes than the other team the DDA will still help the opponents by adjusting tuners, thats why there is alot of cheap goals, if DDA wasnt a thing it would be easier for people to see the steps towards realism that the devs taking. Sorry for the long message but I think its important to stay neutral in this situation. Your complains will hopefully push EA to act so please dont stop. Aslo it should be a new game every 2-3 years, they can sell alot of DLC, skins and packs while updating the game to keep the money flowing and it would prevent them from having less than 9months to work on a new game. Also another thing that was new from this year is that they kept updating the game for months after 24s release which was never done before. I also think the 1 timers will be OP for the first few weeks in 25 so that everybody can score and then they'll nerf it a few weeks later, typical EA thing to do and isnt needed at all. Be A pro not being changed and the new HUT reward system are jokes though. We are paying for 1 big update I know, but this text was about the game itself. I study hockey daily, watch alot of it and am a top player in HUT and EASHL for a long time on top of playing franchise mode alot for more than 20years, I also am good at programming games and understand their mechanics, yes EAs programming is rushed and flawed(ex : hitting someone thats behind you is bad/rushed programmation of the way the hitting animation interects with other players hitboxes, but thats really hard to program, they need years not months for it to be perfect. TLDR : Since NHL23 its a new dev team and you can truly see the effort towards a better game I think, they just have to show a unified front not a mix of arcade and realist concepts mixed together leaving the playerbase confused.
Can someone clarify if we preorder the PHYSICAL copy of the Deluxe Edition do we also get this game 7 days early? Like can I go to my local GameStop and pick it up a week earlier than the standard edition?
wildcard seems to be what they are doing now with the X Factor Comp. It will be rules of who or what you can use to participate (this will make the card market change and flip weekly). Good way to have those no money spent players have a different outlet to earn XP
I have a question. The last couple years it had been called the x factor edition and in the trailer they didn’t show the players with x factors. They would also give a x factor choice pack with your preorder. I could be wrong but i would think quin and jack would have them after the years they just had. I was wondering if you think they took x factors out of the game or that they just weren’t showcased in the trailer.
my expextations for the nhl series is so low that just having improved / working menus would be considered a win.
It is sad that I feel the same way. I have been at this for a while now and I really feel the "is what it is" set in every year.
can’t wait to play nhl 20 the 5th version
Ong
I miss NHL 20
Nope@@SleevelessGaming
Why do you think that? The Graphics already look much better and I'm excited to see what a revamped franchise mode will look like
@@wittybanter96 The goal animations for the svorrboard are so much better
so glad they’re just moving to current gen, with how bad the games have been i couldn’t believe they’d continue to make 4 versions of the game
@@user33740yes only new gen consoles
@9797EWno it’s not 💀 ps5 came out 4 years ago
@@fivedrunkwhales9291no, he’s correct. dont be silly and try to correct people when you are wrong😂
I feel like PS3 support for games didn’t last as long as PS4.
@sandking8010 cause the ps3 was trash and the 360 was wayyyy better but then the ps4 was actually baller
Did they change anything on defense at all? Need stick lifting to not be an instant penalty.
Try holding stick lift and cancelling with LB - seems to help me fight for the puck better sometimes
@@aweffs lmao how am i today years old and im finding out that you can hold stick lift to get the puck😂
@@thePastafarian88 yeah it will tie them up and I tap to regain control - I use Lb to cancel the deke if using total controls
Its far to early to tell, but I get the sense that the game will be much more east and west. Making you get creative to get time and space, meaning defense should be easier. I pray we can actually stick lift again lol
It's the same thing every year.
Guys cry and bitch about how bad the game is and they say they will never buy it again. Then EA makes up sone new buzz word and the same idiots are ready to preorder the game again.
Well i mean it's on sale after a month and 50 bucks is like 3h of work
ICE IQ!!!!!
Bro did u watch the whole video it’s one of the best updates they do since like nhl 2019
I think a major issue is that major sport games just arent meant to be played the amount that the player base consumes them in HUT and WOC specifically. In the good old days franchise would see big updates each year and we would almost make our own fun? Now even the casual player will put in 5-10 weeks for even 6 months out of the year and thats just a huge amount of time played on a game dev cycle thats essentially 12 weeks a year.
I have been baited in the past, and have gotten so caught up in the hype over the years but the longer Im in the industry I get a better handle on if a game will meet, fall far below or exceed the general player base expectations. I think 25 will surprise Franchise mode players and HUT finally has a different weekly play cycle. Its got a shot to be better than 23 and 24 and thats all I hope for lol.
I fall into this category 😂! But I don’t play any other video games.. I tried golf but hard to find a good game! And honestly.. I freaking love hockey!!!
Honestly. It's really hard to get excited about this game.
Disclaimer : Yes, it is only an update to 24 that we pay for, I agree with the general complaints, Im sorely talking gameplay wise
What people fail to acknowledge is that one of the main isssues of this game is its community, 90% of the players still play pre NHL23 hitting fest braindead northsouth crosscrease forcing OR they do the same 2-3 cheesy plays every game, refusing to learn buttons let alone new mechanics like holding R1 or RB for a few secs then R stick up for a huge dump or understanding that on D you can crosscheck anybody that posts up in the slot every 2sec as long as you dont move your left stick there is no risk of penalty untill the opponent stops posting up. Or that passing without handling the R joystick is a shotgun pass and that handling the right joystick makes the pass much better and allows to pick a passing lane instead of using the default one thats easy to read or poke. Or that if you sticklift the opponent your stick needs to be on the same side as his and at the right gap distance aka not too close not too far which promotes gap management, when I acknowledged that mechanic, I could then stick lift all game with almost never taking a penalty for it, Im so used to its mechanic that i actively do it to people without the puck, it is not a penalty button. I agree that people that get hit shouldnt get up that quick after big hits but that is a prime example of EA going away from arcade hit fest by drasticly nerfing hitting forcing players to play actual team defense which is great and shows how EA is taking steps towards realism and having a fair counter system, in 25 they said players will stay down longer after big hits especially if they are smaller, smaller players wlll hit less powerfully and biggger players will hit harder, we'll see. Also having the option to either crosscheck or shoulder check is another step towards realism and is very efficient if used at the right moment, for example on D you can use your positioning to box someone out and if you land a good poke or sweep you come in with a crosscheck to then have an easy puck pickup for either you or whoever was supporting you, it sounds hard but its very effective and doesnt take long to master.
Almost nobody realizes that there is a good counter system meaning there is a counter to every single thing in the game and that it is actually trying to be more of a simulation in some ways : they actively try to reward east west hockey getting away from the repetitive and boring north south meta, it got away from the hitting meta, now its about positinioning taking runs with the carrier while you have support watching mid to create 2 on 1 pockets on D or offense instead of going for 50-50 defensive plays and run and gun offense(thats why alot of players think the game is bad), it promotes cycling, rebound shots, creativty, stick sweeps, tips, screens, support plays, teamwork, etc. You cant beat good teams if you dont play as team now, otherwise you'll only beat bad teams. If you actually watch hockey a lot youd know more than half of goals scored are garbage goals so even that is realistic to a degree but it is ruined by EAs DDA.
That being said, I agree that they should show a unified front and seperate EASHL from Chel instead of taking steps towards a more realistc gameplay but adding arcade stuff like fortnite skins in club and such, making it hard for players who do not understand videogame programming(no shame in that) to see the effort towards realism and the conflict of interest within EA to push arcady stuff and of course heavily interfere with the game with DDA(they adjust tuners during games to compensate for the skill gap more than ever). EASHLshould be full simulation no intereference from EA. For example if youre down 0-2 but you control the game but you have 10x more passes than the other team the DDA will still help the opponents by adjusting tuners, thats why there is alot of cheap goals, if DDA wasnt a thing it would be easier for people to see the steps towards realism that the devs taking.
Sorry for the long message but I think its important to stay neutral in this situation. Your complains will hopefully push EA to act so please dont stop. Aslo it should be a new game every 2-3 years, they can sell alot of DLC, skins and packs while updating the game to keep the money flowing and it would prevent them from having less than 9months to work on a new game. Also another thing that was new from this year is that they kept updating the game for months after 24s release which was never done before.
I also think the 1 timers will be OP for the first few weeks in 25 so that everybody can score and then they'll nerf it a few weeks later, typical EA thing to do and isnt needed at all. Be A pro not being changed and the new HUT reward system are jokes though. We are paying for 1 big update I know, but this text was about the game itself. I study hockey daily, watch alot of it and am a top player in HUT and EASHL for a long time on top of playing franchise mode alot for more than 20years, I also am good at programming games and understand their mechanics, yes EAs programming is rushed and flawed(ex : hitting someone thats behind you is bad/rushed programmation of the way the hitting animation interects with other players hitboxes, but thats really hard to program, they need years not months for it to be perfect.
TLDR : Since NHL23 its a new dev team and you can truly see the effort towards a better game I think, they just have to show a unified front not a mix of arcade and realist concepts mixed together leaving the playerbase confused.
Im gonna need to see 100 gameplay videos before purchasing just to see if these changes actually improve anything
Why dont they skip a few years when they make these games, take their time and add stuff thats revolutionary. Same crap with few tweaks every year
money and mangoes
NHL 15 finally got a graphic update nice
I hope they reduce the amount of spotlight goal celebrations, in OT winners sure, shootout wins yes but definitely not after every goal
I think they should just remove them completely
@@mmbulleagreed! Hate it
So.. vision control is back and they upped the contrast on the graphics?
I promise vision control wont look like what you are describing, but I cant gaurentee the player base wont find some new way to exploit it. Could be better, could be worse
WAIT SO I GOT HYPED FOR A GAME THAT WONT EVEN BE ON MY CONSOLE?!?!??
Franchise Mode and Be a Pro needs a major facelift, way too many improvements to mention but I won’t hold my breath
just when i thought i was out, they pull be back in...
I feel like that’s how it is every year and then once the honey moon phase is over we all start complaining lmao
EA: "I‘m gonna make you an offer you can‘t refuse."
What revolutionary feature pulled you back in this time?
You’re a real one
@@alexandercaputo_different dev team and real changes happening make it hard to not come back lol
The grudge match thing looks pretty cool I find myself playing the same guys in rivals and champs a lot so it’ll be interesting to see that
i never really pay attention to team names or the usernames so this will be cool for me
It's unfair NHL25 will only be on PS5 i own a PS4 and some people like me can't afford a PS5
@@ACW721 for the progression of the game it's a great thing. I'm sure you won't be missing much. It's always the same shit anyways
@@ACW721U have had 4 years to save up for it. Stop complaining💀
To be honest, when I heard about the grudge match thing I was pumped just because by December you basically play the same 10 people because you find your spot in Rivals. Itll be nice to see how you have matched up and how it will impact the game, there is definitely a lot more to the system then the small blurb so I am pumped for you guys to see it.
Props for being able to stretch this to 10 minutes
As someone who plays EXCLUSIVELY as the Goalie, I really wish they'd spend some time addressing the issues with goaltending!!!
As an old Gen player, thank god i dont have the option to purchase this game anymore. Finally a way out!
Lol good we don't need whiners
@@MrStasyk420 not whining, finally ending my toxic addiction with the game, but thanks for trying to be an ass. 🙂👍
@@MrStasyk420the game is bad because of people like you, you will buy it every year no matter what.
@@MrStasyk420 EA deserves you 😅
@@MrStasyk420the last few years of nhl have been crap and this is coming from a former ea hockey fan
It would genuinely take around an hour to code a massive crowd improvement. If you are getting cooked your crowd should slowly dissipate and be damn near nonexistent at the end of a blowout loss. I cant stand playing a chel club match and seeing the home crowd all cheer like they tied the cup final when the score improves from 0-6 to 1-6 with 1:47 left in the third. If you lose 7-8+ games in a row your max crowd should decrease and fan engagement should be shit.
In NHL game with a realistic presentation would actually be unbelievable. Imagine if when you scored in overtime, the AI dog piled you instead of just skating away lol
Im 100% with you on this, I would love more realism in that aspect. Im a big proponent on the tradition NBC type broadcast but that might just be because I am old.
I’m hoping be a pro gets some love this game
They made no mention of be a pro so I highly doubt it which Is y I'm skipping NHL 25 like I did 24. No incentive to even buy the game for me
😂They don't care about be a pro
@@jamesmustaine2482a lot of people used to till ea made it absolutely dogshit
Be a pro is fun but the money is in the card packs for them. That’s always going to get more attention
@@jamesmustaine2482a lot of fucking people
Be a pro better not be the same. I’m sick and tired of pricey pond hockey.
You mean you don’t want your coach benching you because you finished the game with 4 assists but he wanted you to score a goal
Oh it will be you know it to be true
so many problems would have been solved if they only made 1 last game and made updates to it instead, they would have more time to make more changes and players wouldnt be mad because they have to pay this crazy amount of money every f*ing year.
Exhaust engine better be scrapped in this edition.
As primarily an EASHL club player, customization, menus, servers, builds, earnings, accolades all need an upgrade.
Above all of that though, ffs EA fix the broken gameplay first.
Couldn’t agree more with the menus that take ages to navigate, the long sever times, the useless bronze coins and the long ass wait times
Don't let EA Sports Vancouver or the content creators fool you into thinking massive changes are coming in NHL 25. If you see "#EAPartner" in the description they were paid by EA to read a script of lies. Happens every year, yet people continue to buy the game and complain.
Not exactly, by law you have to say if you’re paid or not. It’s literally a law. sometimes it just means that they were given early access or information that other people don’t get. But I understand the frustration with people liking a game that you don’t like because people can’t have their own opinion.
I used to work at the food bank and used to pick up the donations from EA Vancouver
Nothing was ever happening. Quietest building ever. Office buildings were louder.
You’d think it’d be the opposite.
They had basketball, soccer, tennis etc. courts that were always empty.
I wonder why that was the case..
@@GOCAPSDMVHe was most likely paid by ea to put this video out. Nothing wrong with that but don’t be so naive. You think he’d get on here and trash it? He’d lose his access.
@@scottconrad4719 buddy look at what ea themselves say on thier page about the creator program, also. By law, you would have to see if you were paid or not. Who is the naïve one now?
I would have loved to have gotten paid for this video, however unfortunately this video was entirely done by me and my own opinions on it. I think people like yourself get upset if a creator makes a video covering the new game and doesnt just trash it from start to finish. Thats just a silly way to go about it, of course I am excited about the new game we are all addicted to hockey and this (sometimes unfortunately) is our only video game outlet for it.
I will always give my real opinion on the game, and unless a piece of content is legit posted on the EA NHL account no one is paid. The "EA Partner" tag is meant to be an explainer to how we received an early look to make the content. Year over year, I am not sure how much can actually change in a yearly sport game. Its the most broken and archaic model in the gaming industry because it was started in the 90s and that was far before the majority of the player base switched to playing online. I think NHL 25 will have some nice quality of life stuff but the gameplay changes we have no idea until the player base gets a hand on them.
Great breakdown. Thank you for putting this together!
Can we get box scores for all games played on any day during the season? Madden does it, MLB The Show does it (for AAA and AA as well), it can't be difficult to do it in NHL. Also, can we get stats that accurately reflect what's going on in a season, such as a team's ACTUAL winning or losing streak, a player's individual stats vs any given team during that season and/or for their career, etc.? Again, it's not difficult and would add to a player's lore against certain teams (rivals?) and would deepen the immersion of franchise and BAP modes. Also, can the game keep track of players who injure other players and maybe have a blurb about said injury in the teams' next matchup? I.e., "Marchand injured (whomever) last time these two teams played..." or "Byram was injured by (whomever) in their last matchup, but he's back now and looking for revenge..." I suppose it doesn't need to be that detailed, but it's still something that could be included in pre-game notes or something.
Says since 22 one-timers have been all since removed from offensive play... meanwhile you have me scoring practically with last second one timers
You have to distinguish between one timers from the dots and backdoor tap ins. You're definitely referring to the latter, as I scored a lot of those too. But true, traditional one timers from distance haven't gone in in years.
I would guess that you are referring to back door tap ins, I dont classify that as one timers. Im talking about point shots or even a guy in the face off dot. The change to human goalie animations in 23 made the one timer almost none existent in 1v1 because they get this huge slide animations.
@@ghost_615 I am actually talking about both... I do get the backdoor tap ins, but I do get some nice blue line one timers pretty often actually.
Was not planning on buying this game on release date. No old gen is definitely sparking my interest if there’s connected gm I will 100% pre order.
Can we mod the controlls? I absolutely hated the changes to ‘24 with the quick dekes and hitting etc. If I can hold x to protect the puck again I will consider purchase… if not… guess I’m playing’23 for another season
First: It's not the first time. The Nordic release of NHL11 had the Sedin twins on the cover.
Second: I'm finally forced to buy a next gen console.. should I get Xbox or PS?
I play NHL on a PS4 and don't take it too seriously but still would like to play ultimate team with updated players, but I'm not getting a PS5 so now I can't
Keep playing 24 with the rest of the people in the same boat as you.
I’m a weirdo and noticed the sharks still have white helmets for their away kit. Do you think ea will update that later on?
Not a weirdo, the Stlouis Blues used to come out on the wrong side of the arena some years back. Drove me nuts.
Also no matte helmets for canucks third jersey, im so obsessed with minor details
Im a bad Sharks fan for not realizing that. I will bring this up!
"opens up a ton more offensive abilities'...cause thats what the game needed....
I know this is pretty useless but they should update the customization and equipment options and make some like different tape jobs and customizable stick colours because all NHL players now use custom colors. I just don’t get why they don’t do that.
Exactly! I feel like customization of your chel / be a pro player is completely trash. I wish I could change my skate and stick colours to different colourways, and we desperately need new faces, hair and facial hair options like nba 2k and mlb
Always good to be back this time of year
Improved ai would be enough for me, constantly having to dodge pylon teamates or having a 2 on 1 and my teamate just stops skating or veers off into the boards for no reason. Dumping old gen looks like better graphics i noticed that before i knew old gen was dumped. I hope wildcard isnt just changing modes like last year. Universal progression is good so long as the rewards arent dogshit. I hope its good but man its hard to be optimistic with EA.
All this is all fine but question did the fix the chel bugs, menu bugs, lobby bugs, ingame bugs in defence lack of defensive tools to intercept passes, stick luft and bump.
And goalie beeing handikappad from pass glitch goals and game tilt.
You can play outstanding for 59:45 seconds to letting in a flipper shot every second game.
Goslies are players to
Online franchise mode please
They had that mode like 20 years ago and they got rid of it. Shame it was the best mode
Better have put more NHL faces in the game if they used some new fancy tech to make their animations better
Literally the starting goalie for the Canucks doesn’t have his face in the game and he’s bin in the NHL for over half a decade
They need to use college football system they literally have all players faces with ai
I agree, I know its super difficult to get the updated face scans because I think they have to basically bring that camera setup to every training camp but I agree they need everyone!
@@SleevelessGaming they don’t even need to have great face scan just make a face look half realistic for the lower level players. Even just matching the right hair color.
You know they didn’t lmao this ain’t 2k(even though they are also just as bad) 😂
Im afraid that the use of the sapien tech is going to make the amount of player faces even worse because it's supposed to be a full body camera setup so they almost certainly discontinued the old way of scanning players and now the only guarantees for new scans this year will be the hughes brothers and a handful of Canucks + the most prominent rookies , from all the sports games NHL series is the worst at getting this right and I wish the players union would do something about it
No adjustments or changes/upgrades to BAP, eh? :/
The NHL series is by far the game I play the most. I’m in a few leagues (AGL, NAVHL, played some LG when I had time), and I love the competition and the fun with friends. WoC-imo-is the best mode and the true multiplayer experience that sport games strive for. But, it’s been frustrating over the years with bad human-goalie animations, L2 spammers (which are basically gone Thank God), and X-Factor abilities that really need to be dropped altogether. I’m hoping that WoC sees positive change.
Last year’s Fortnite-ification of NHL was tough to be a part of. I understand they’re trying to get casual fans and of course kids. But then give us multiple options for WoC in terms of gameplay: Arcade and Simulation. It’s ok to have 3-2, 5-3 games in WoC. That’s real hockey, something a lot of us players actually want. That’s what a simulation, pro mode should be. They’re supposed to be pro players, right? Let us have that in WoC.
Let skills matter, not X-Factors and sloppy Arcade hits, or pucks that magically stick to checked players.
Do you have anything else to say about the presentation, namely the pre game intros so that you can see the goalie introduction in the offline mdoes etc.
It’s on the official website but what he said is it
I wish they would do 2-year release windows. If you want to take a real leap EA bring it to VR. Give us actual vision control. Give us ChatGPT powered ai that actually talk and respond to their environment/conversation. I'd gladly wait another 3 or 4 years for a new NHL release.
All I need from Franchise mode is the ability to see your line fits and stuff in the offseason so you arent blindsided by what your real team looks like when the calendar rolls over..
is there gonna be a closed beta?
If there's no Connected Franchise on NHL 25 I'm not buying
I wish dumping the puck in the corners worked in this series
Kinda wishing a close up of Bobrovskis backwards save from round 1 would be the cover but I guess the Hughes’ are a pretty cool cover
They literally changed nothing and this is an update not a new game definitely not buying this crap and how good will it all work out on high ping games?
Negative Nancy
As someone who mains goalie in eashl... I dont want boosts to one timers😢
I only play offline so I'm loving the gameplay and graphic updates, hopefully they update BaP
Waiting if they have more than 2 different faces in the crowd.
One timers are still pretty easy in nhl 24
I am 55, have been playing NHL from EA every year since NHL Hockey back in 1991 on my Sega Genesis. Now it's like I have been playing the same game for years, I am not impressed by the development team making us pay big bucks each year for little upgrades and average graphics. Once again, I won't buy until black Friday since that game never lifts up and gets cheaper all the time by end of november!
Thanks for the video my guy👍 good stuff
FC and NHL need a revamp in franchise mode. FC needs roster creation and imports and NHL needs a better edit coach schemes
this is the first year in a long time where i am seriously considering not getting this year's NHL game
The graphics from nhl 24 to 25! And the skill set blue line movement is insane!
This use to be my favorite game. They do stuff that should have been done 5 years ago and expect people to get hype about it. Sad part is there is people who still get excited for this copy and paste game
I think you misunderstood the grudge match system, it’s about teams. For example, there would be specific stuff for a matchup between the Los Angeles Kings and San Jose Sharks
It says in all major online and offline modes. I assume online means HUT online games.
From my understanding it is in offline and online modes. For example in HUT if you match with someone you ahve played regularly you will get a recent games performance breakdown in games between you and that player.
@@SleevelessGaming I guess that makes sense, but I’m assuming it will work differently offline and online since it has some feature where players get special X-Factors from previous matchups against that team. If you haven’t seen that, it’s from the press release for the game
Looks good, but hopefully they keep the controls for the controller as are now in nhl24 and not have the community complaining and wanting certain controls for their controller back into the game.
Im very excited to see where this is going to take the franchise in the future
Amazing cover athletes
"Ice-Q?" Ice-T is suing! 🤣
😆
😂 ea iq Eafc iq nhl iq 😂
Ice Cube is also suing lol
The name had me dying when I first saw it LOL
If franchise isn't multi-player,it's a fail again
As a WoC-player it feels like they only focus on the offense. Defense gets nothing new?
Thanks for the breakdown! I LOVE the lateral/edge work animations, but FINALLY being next Gen only is a HUGE win!
The franchise streamlined will be great last year in franchise mode and past years they only allowed you to control one team and provide maintenance to one team thanks to you guys we kno there is a streamlined option in franchise now which prolly means control ALL 33 TEAMS in in the mode and no more players being moved without your permission during the season that's what was needed I think NHL 25 will bring hockey back to how it was in the 90's
Great breakdown Sleeves! I immediately pre-ordered the deluxe edition and got the 99 Jack Hughes 😜! I am old and this is literally the only video game I play and EA is so lucky that they are the only game in town! Hahaha
Hyped for the new game as always!
If they can track this grudge match stuff I would assume that means we should have leaderboards back in HUT
Do you know if the new WildCard mode will be offline as well? Also did they remove RUSH?
Im just happy that all players will look like themselves finally
are they bringing back hybrid controls?
PLEASE PLEASE CAN YOU TELL ME IF WE ARE GOING TO SAVE LINES IN ONLINE VS
I was only holding on to my PS5 because of NHL. Sold the console 4 months ago and bought a PC. Glad I'm not really missing much.
Sleeveless I got to know! I am so hyped more than ever for this game since it is only next gen finally!! But I got to know is full presentation back because that would the cherry on top and I was hearing multiple voices in the trailer! Does that mean multiple broadcasters?
Knowing what FC and Madden have done, I would assume so.
@@MrHunterbgI haven’t played FC in a minute did they just bring back full presentation?
Do you think they fix the input lag on PS5 by dropping PS4? That was a killer for NHL 24 players and cross play.
I think I’m the only one that misses the CHEL when it wasn’t on a pond
I was really hoping the winter classic would return I'm from St. Louis so man that would be epic
Did they fix the hit stick?
Hey Sleeves! I think someone should let EA know that power up trade ins should now be available up to cards that are at level 96!
Gm connected?
I really hope they do more with franchise
Will be a pro finally get an upgrade?? If it’s not gonna get touched there’s no need wasting resources and time puttin that mode in the game atp
I like the screen of US Gamer saying the new skating is unreal. A bit wondering how the change to vision control isn't a reversion to 2 years ago when they say you can now face the net....isn't that what it was and how it was spammed to make people skate so unrealistically?
Are they sticking with the total control controls
Still playing franchise on 22 so hopefully they finally did a good job on 25....
I wish they did trade-ins like phones do.
Yo sleeves, idk if we’ve been playing the same game my man. I get cross creased in 24 an ungodly amount of times
Disclaimer : Yes, it is only an update to 24 that we pay for, I agree with the general complaints, Im sorely talking gameplay wise
What people fail to acknowledge is that one of the main isssues of this game is its community, 90% of the players still play pre NHL23 hitting fest braindead northsouth crosscrease forcing OR they do the same 2-3 cheesy plays every game, refusing to learn buttons let alone new mechanics like holding R1 or RB for a few secs then R stick up for a huge dump or understanding that on D you can crosscheck anybody that posts up in the slot every 2sec as long as you dont move your left stick there is no risk of penalty untill the opponent stops posting up. Or that passing without handling the R joystick is a shotgun pass and that handling the right joystick makes the pass much better and allows to pick a passing lane instead of using the default one thats easy to read or poke. Or that if you sticklift the opponent your stick needs to be on the same side as his and at the right gap distance aka not too close not too far which promotes gap management, when I acknowledged that mechanic, I could then stick lift all game with almost never taking a penalty for it, Im so used to its mechanic that i actively do it to people without the puck, it is not a penalty button. I agree that people that get hit shouldnt get up that quick after big hits but that is a prime example of EA going away from arcade hit fest by drasticly nerfing hitting forcing players to play actual team defense which is great and shows how EA is taking steps towards realism and having a fair counter system, in 25 they said players will stay down longer after big hits especially if they are smaller, smaller players wlll hit less powerfully and biggger players will hit harder, we'll see. Also having the option to either crosscheck or shoulder check is another step towards realism and is very efficient if used at the right moment, for example on D you can use your positioning to box someone out and if you land a good poke or sweep you come in with a crosscheck to then have an easy puck pickup for either you or whoever was supporting you, it sounds hard but its very effective and doesnt take long to master.
Almost nobody realizes that there is a good counter system meaning there is a counter to every single thing in the game and that it is actually trying to be more of a simulation in some ways : they actively try to reward east west hockey getting away from the repetitive and boring north south meta, it got away from the hitting meta, now its about positinioning taking runs with the carrier while you have support watching mid to create 2 on 1 pockets on D or offense instead of going for 50-50 defensive plays and run and gun offense(thats why alot of players think the game is bad), it promotes cycling, rebound shots, creativty, stick sweeps, tips, screens, support plays, teamwork, etc. You cant beat good teams if you dont play as team now, otherwise you'll only beat bad teams. If you actually watch hockey a lot youd know more than half of goals scored are garbage goals so even that is realistic to a degree but it is ruined by EAs DDA.
That being said, I agree that they should show a unified front and seperate EASHL from Chel instead of taking steps towards a more realistc gameplay but adding arcade stuff like fortnite skins in club and such, making it hard for players who do not understand videogame programming(no shame in that) to see the effort towards realism and the conflict of interest within EA to push arcady stuff and of course heavily interfere with the game with DDA(they adjust tuners during games to compensate for the skill gap more than ever). EASHLshould be full simulation no intereference from EA. For example if youre down 0-2 but you control the game but you have 10x more passes than the other team the DDA will still help the opponents by adjusting tuners, thats why there is alot of cheap goals, if DDA wasnt a thing it would be easier for people to see the steps towards realism that the devs taking.
Sorry for the long message but I think its important to stay neutral in this situation. Your complains will hopefully push EA to act so please dont stop. Aslo it should be a new game every 2-3 years, they can sell alot of DLC, skins and packs while updating the game to keep the money flowing and it would prevent them from having less than 9months to work on a new game. Also another thing that was new from this year is that they kept updating the game for months after 24s release which was never done before.
I also think the 1 timers will be OP for the first few weeks in 25 so that everybody can score and then they'll nerf it a few weeks later, typical EA thing to do and isnt needed at all. Be A pro not being changed and the new HUT reward system are jokes though. We are paying for 1 big update I know, but this text was about the game itself. I study hockey daily, watch alot of it and am a top player in HUT and EASHL for a long time on top of playing franchise mode alot for more than 20years, I also am good at programming games and understand their mechanics, yes EAs programming is rushed and flawed(ex : hitting someone thats behind you is bad/rushed programmation of the way the hitting animation interects with other players hitboxes, but thats really hard to program, they need years not months for it to be perfect.
TLDR : Since NHL23 its a new dev team and you can truly see the effort towards a better game I think, they just have to show a unified front not a mix of arcade and realist concepts mixed together leaving the playerbase confused.
Can someone clarify if we preorder the PHYSICAL copy of the Deluxe Edition do we also get this game 7 days early? Like can I go to my local GameStop and pick it up a week earlier than the standard edition?
wildcard seems to be what they are doing now with the X Factor Comp. It will be rules of who or what you can use to participate (this will make the card market change and flip weekly). Good way to have those no money spent players have a different outlet to earn XP
Is there no beta this year ?
Why can't we get post whistle scrums that affect momentum
Will goalies get some love this year?
I'll be honest, if HUT progression really allows you to play any mode and gain progress that might push me over the edge to buy this year.
I have a question. The last couple years it had been called the x factor edition and in the trailer they didn’t show the players with x factors. They would also give a x factor choice pack with your preorder. I could be wrong but i would think quin and jack would have them after the years they just had. I was wondering if you think they took x factors out of the game or that they just weren’t showcased in the trailer.
Can't wait for like a pro mode. Hopefully it will be a little different than the last game
If I had the game, I will play as the devils