We're Finally Almost FREE From Zeb Wells... - The Amazing Spider-Man #59 Review

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  • @snekkans
    @snekkans 3 дні тому +34

    My favourite part about this issue being the "the most brutal fight in Spider-Man history" is that issue 5 was also solicited as "their most brutal battle ever" which means we've had 2 "most brutal" fights in the same run. It gets even funnier if you reread issue 5 and realize that Spidey and Tombstone never fight in it.

    • @mnstash
      @mnstash  День тому +3

      This entire run has just been the most pathetic marketing gimmicks on repeat because they know they can’t sell the book based on quality alone

    • @snekkans
      @snekkans День тому +1

      @@mnstash I honestly thought the first arc with Tombstone was flawed but enjoyable but the book went downhill so fast that I went from reading the issues because I cared about the characters to reading the issues to see how much damage they could do. Even the "good" issues in this run don't hold a candle to the worst issues in Nick Spencer's.

  • @mobgabriel1767
    @mobgabriel1767 2 дні тому +15

    "this is the most brutal comic book in history"
    "thats a nice argument zeb wells why don't you back it up with a source?"
    "my source is that i made it the fuck up"

    • @ToxicVex267
      @ToxicVex267 2 дні тому +2

      Back in black would like a word with you Nick.

  • @ToxicVex267
    @ToxicVex267 2 дні тому +9

    Nick lowe: this is the most brutal fight.
    Peter v kingpin in back in black: am I a joke to you?

  • @jakew6162
    @jakew6162 3 дні тому +23

    Here the pros and cons of the Zeb Wells Run:
    Pros: Tombstone and Ed Mcguiness Artwork
    Cons: EVERYTHING ELSE

  • @ArachnidYouth
    @ArachnidYouth 3 дні тому +20

    I'm sorry Peter should have been done to Tombstone within 3 panels. This Wells Peter is so pathetic and weak it just makes moments where he's not being controlled by the writers it becomes infuriating bc it makes you go "WHY DIDN'T YOU DO THAT BEFORE YOU MORON"

    • @mnstash
      @mnstash  День тому +2

      The man who can dodge BULLETS can’t even step over Lonnie’s leg, WHERES HIS SPIDER SENSE?! I can’t take this shit anymore man..

  • @TevyaSmolka
    @TevyaSmolka 3 дні тому +23

    Good news is we have had ultimate Spider-Man this week which was a major breath of fresh air over the awful amazing Spider-Man which is just terrible and a garbage book of a series from the beginning to the very end of zeb wells awful run in my opinion.

  • @spiderbro617
    @spiderbro617 3 дні тому +22

    We’re almost done…finally. Once the end of the month rolls around, Zeb is officially out!!! But then we still have 8 Deaths to deal with…Lord help us all. Honestly, the ASM are completely unrecognizable and they must be fixed somehow and someway. Hell even I could do it, and I’m still a fairly new writer. I’m currently working on a fan-comic called Ultimate Moon Knight, but I have ideas for how to fix ASM in a rough idea I have dubbed “Peter Parker: The Amazing Spider-Man”

    • @jonathanl-j4i
      @jonathanl-j4i 3 дні тому +6

      Yeah, I have seen so many fan takes in posts and comments that would immediately be better than what they have been churning out. Sheesh, I was so depressed with the MJ stuff this run and how one dimensional everything was now with her character as “woman who betrays Peter for poorly fleshed out reasons to stoke drama and rage bait” that I even wrote my own story from her perspective to explore the psychology behind it all and why she was treating Peter the way she was. I just feel like this run has let down so many characters so badly, forcing them to behave in awful ways that betray everything that they previously stood for and not really justifying any of it in any believable way. It’s all so so poorly written.

    • @spiderbro617
      @spiderbro617 3 дні тому +2

      @@jonathanl-j4i Exactly, my guy. Even fans with barely any writing experience can do a better job than Zeb Wells. That's how pathetic his run was. I'll probably get to work on PPTASM after I'm done with Ultimate Moon Knight. Time to show Nick Lowe how it's really done

    • @MG_Z73
      @MG_Z73 3 дні тому +1

      @spiderbro617 Wow, I'm a huge Moon Knight fan, it would be interesting to read that

    • @spiderbro617
      @spiderbro617 3 дні тому

      @@MG_Z73 I'm actually working on it right now. Ultimate Moon Knight is another fan-project I have in the works. There are more details about it over on my channel

    • @mnstash
      @mnstash  День тому +1

      Ah nice blend of previous titles, what’s the premise ?

  • @thomasgaming7656
    @thomasgaming7656 3 дні тому +15

    Paul needs a Cannon event

    • @jonathanl-j4i
      @jonathanl-j4i 3 дні тому +11

      He needs a cannon event. I.e. being fired out of one.

    • @BoudewijnPiet
      @BoudewijnPiet 2 дні тому +3

      ​@@jonathanl-j4i i think you mean fired at him with a cannon..
      I would pay for that event. 😉

    • @ToxicVex267
      @ToxicVex267 2 дні тому +2

      Paul is our canon event. 😭

    • @ToxicVex267
      @ToxicVex267 2 дні тому +1

      @@BoudewijnPietI say we fire a couple more shots too just to make sure.

  • @BrandontheAwesome
    @BrandontheAwesome 3 дні тому +7

    Almost the end!
    Now, let's hope Joe Kelly isn't as bad...

    • @mnstash
      @mnstash  День тому +2

      I believe in each issue Spider-Man is literally going to die, I guess they weren’t kidding with 8 deaths of Spider-Man

    • @EdehEmmanuel-d7r
      @EdehEmmanuel-d7r 10 годин тому

      ​@@mnstashthat is what I have been saying

  • @jonathanl-j4i
    @jonathanl-j4i 3 дні тому +5

    Another solid review. I’m just hoping that 8 Deaths and whatever comes after will be better. It’s hard to see how it can be worse. I always said that for whoever follows to be popular is to just “not be Wells”… but as long as Lowe is still Lowering the standards to their very Lowest we can never hope for better with any real expectation.

    • @mnstash
      @mnstash  День тому

      Apparently there’s a good chance 8 deaths of Spider-Man will literally have him die over and over again..we can’t win

  • @superthorc6894
    @superthorc6894 3 дні тому +4

    One more issue until we can wash away this run for good but the lasting damage will be felt for years to come more to how terrible it is

  • @blockgang6091
    @blockgang6091 3 дні тому +7

    yay now spider man is dying 8 times

    • @orlandobritt1460
      @orlandobritt1460 3 дні тому

      he on like death 50 something demon Harry keep killing him and rezing him

  • @Crimson7458
    @Crimson7458 2 дні тому +2

    Yeah there were way more brutal fights Spider-Man has gone through i.e Lizard in Torment and Morlun in JMS run.

    • @mnstash
      @mnstash  День тому

      Nick Lowe is just so incredibly shameless

  • @MS7000_
    @MS7000_ 3 дні тому +8

    Your suffering is almost done

    • @mnstash
      @mnstash  День тому

      Then we got spidey dying 8 times in a row next🫠

  • @brianwilcox1686
    @brianwilcox1686 3 дні тому +8

    Please tell me this is the end of the Wells run. I thought he was done an issue 60, I’m kind of optimistic for Joe Kelly, but kind of disappointed after what we’ve had

    • @jonathanl-j4i
      @jonathanl-j4i 3 дні тому +5

      Next issue is the last! Just one more craptastic issue to go.

    • @jakew6162
      @jakew6162 3 дні тому +2

      Let’s hope Joe Kelly tries making good stories and well put some effort in

    • @mnstash
      @mnstash  День тому +1

      Yep next issue is the last although 8 deaths of Spider-Man sounds and looks like a pretty poor story..

    • @mnstash
      @mnstash  День тому +1

      Yep next is the last! But I’m not that excited about 8 deaths of Spider-Man though, we might literally see him get killed over and over again

    • @jakew6162
      @jakew6162 День тому

      @@mnstash Yeah I read the article like”Peter and Shay are going to get married” WE HAVEN’T SEEN THEIR CHEMISTRY AFTER THE DATE AT LEAST BUILD IT UP. Hell we haven’t have enough time to get to know about Shay.

  • @yamatokira4335
    @yamatokira4335 2 дні тому +1

    I understand if the hero beating up Tombstone is Batman, which he doesn't have super power...
    But, the hero is Spider-Man, he has super strength....and...
    Whatever!😂

    • @mnstash
      @mnstash  День тому

      Exactly man it’s bs😭

  • @aaronbood1999
    @aaronbood1999 2 дні тому +2

    The only thing i care about is ultimate spider man 2024, as it's the only thing worth reading

    • @ToxicVex267
      @ToxicVex267 2 дні тому +2

      It’s everything I want an established well off Peter married to MJ with kids and best of all NO PAUL IN SIGHT.

  • @maxdam4059
    @maxdam4059 2 дні тому +1

    Spider-man has literally beaten up firestar who is a hearld of Galactus , he defeated Morlun whose punches are harder than base form hulk and who literally was hunting Spider-men for sport and Spidey defeated him more than thrice and now he struggles to beat Tombstone , man Zeb Wells and the marvel Editorial team are really bad i dont think Zeb should be fired , i think all of them should be fired

  • @rafaelteodoro5687
    @rafaelteodoro5687 17 годин тому

    As someone who read Evolve or die, this fight is nothing. Evolve or die truely had the most brutal Spider-Man fight ever.

  • @zayy4440
    @zayy4440 3 дні тому +3

    Just one more.....issue

  • @pysz6748
    @pysz6748 3 дні тому +8

    I’ve been hearing it’s the end of Zeb wells for some time. Is it finally happening? Is he finally gone? Please

    • @mnstash
      @mnstash  День тому

      Yep next issue is his last! Then Joe Kelly will write the comic for a small period I believe

    • @jonathanl-j4i
      @jonathanl-j4i День тому

      @@mnstash a very small period by the sounds of it. I gather Justina is writing after the first couple of issues. Knowing our luck she’ll probably then be taking over permanently for the full run. Sob.

  • @squashmallow2006
    @squashmallow2006 3 дні тому +2

    The only valid Tombstone here is the one on Peter Parker's story and future ever since OMD/BND. And hey, why not hammer it home with the subsequent story literally being titled "THE 8 DEATHS OF SPIDER-MAN"?! Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if it was just 10 issues of Peter just getting brutally axed in 8 different ways purely for shock value. I got totally see Nick Lowe getting off on it.

    • @mnstash
      @mnstash  День тому

      Apparently through leaks it might be the case😭we genuinely could be getting him dying over and over again

  • @jeremysteinmark2845
    @jeremysteinmark2845 3 дні тому +2

    Alright taht last thing with peter and shay getting married asap and they be married forever is obviously just nick lowe either fucking with the people that wants Peter and mj back together or he is making fun of them or both

    • @mnstash
      @mnstash  День тому

      It’s just so sad from him, he’s already ruined the relationship!

  • @SkullRy_Comics
    @SkullRy_Comics 16 годин тому

    "One of the most brutal Spidey comics in history"
    To READ, maybe

  • @edg4441
    @edg4441 3 дні тому +3

    Another great video with a spot-on Analysis. There's nothing else to say. Nick Lowe doesn't care what Spidey fans want. I'm predicting it will get worse under Kelly and Ireland. I've decided to give the "8 Deaths of Spider-Man" a try, but I'll stop following "ASM" if it's terrible. If so, I'll only read back issues until OMD/BND. That'll be the end for me because the last 17 years have been a disaster for Spider-man comics, except for the original run of 'USM" and the current "USM" version.
    I think Identity Politics, Wokeness, SJW, etc. have ruined all the main franchises including the newer franchises and their corresponding characters. I think a great example of this is the animated "The Legend of Vox Machina (LOVM)". There's going to be major spoilers here to make my point. The show is based on "The Critical Role Play/Campaign" of the same name from March 2015 to October 2017. I never watched the original campaign because I had never heard of it until the animated series came out in January 2022. After the 1st season, I watched the campaign and thought it was boring as the actors and actresses sat around a table in casual clothing acting out the scenes. However, I really liked Season 1 despite it being woke, t I thought the storyline adaptation was very good, and I decided I wanted to follow the series and became a huge fan.
    The story: The show follows Vox Machina, a group of mercenaries who are more interested in money and ale than protecting the realm. However, when the kingdom is threatened by evil, they realize they are the only ones who can restore justice.
    The characters: The show features a variety of characters, including:
    Vax and Vex: Twin half-elf siblings who are perceived as less than team players
    Batch: Uses enchanted daggers that return to him after being thrown
    Grog: A giant who sometimes delivers flat humor
    Gnomes Pike and Scanlan
    Kayleth - a Druid
    Percy - A nobleman
    The show is in the 3rd season and for the 1st two seasons, and up to Episode 7 of the current season, there have been adventures against dark forces including Dragons and a Vampire. Two characters Percy and Vex (a female half-elf) have been building a relationship since the start of the 1st season. Finally, in this season they become romantically involved. I decided to conduct some research about the original source material and found out Percy is killed twice and resurrected after Vex is killed once and resurrected (it's not as bad as it sounds) and they marry and have 5 children after their campaign/adventure is over. However, the showrunners decided to kill Percy off permanently in this season's 7th episode and the last three episodes 9 to 12 will premiere this upcoming Thursday, October 24. It looks like Percy might stay dead.
    I'm very disappointed by this showrunner's decision if it stands and posted a comment about that decision. Some commenters stated you shouldn't expect a happy ending because happy endings don't happen all the time. Why? Wasn't that happy ending in the original source material? Sorry for the dissertation, but isn't that what has happened to MJ and Peter? Marvel Comics had to reboot Spider-Man and end his marriage because Marvel didn't want to give Spidey fans what they wanted. They can't let Spidey grow up, become a successful scientist, have a love interest that makes sense, marry again, even if it's to marry MJ again, have kids, and become a leader amongst the Marvel Superheroes. This version of Spidey in "ASM" is complete and utter trash, and the book should be canceled. Why do modern writers change everything about franchises no matter who the character is?
    Why is the upcoming "Superman Legacy" going to possibly have a live-action Krypto? Really? That's what DC is going to have in this movie? Are a lot of Superman fans excited about a Live-Action Krypto? I watched "Superboy" of the "Superpowers" animated TV show from 1966 to 1969. Krypto was in that series, but it made sense because "Superboy" was part of the "Superman" cartoon. Whoever is writing and producing these shows doesn't care about the source material and must add woke elements to the story. Even "LOVM" has just as many LGBTQ+ relationships as Heterosexual relationships, and even though fans were shocked by Percy's demise including me, the showrunners don't care, they'll write the show the way they want no matter what fans want. Who knows who's going to be Spidey's next love interest in the next run. I hope it's not Michelle the Lawyer or Shay, but the writers will do what they want and to heck with the fans. All I'll say is don't have any expectations for the upcoming Kelly and Ireland run because if you do, you'll be extremely disappointed.

    • @jonathanl-j4i
      @jonathanl-j4i 3 дні тому +2

      The next run will indeed be garbage. Because as long as Lowe and all the other “idealists” who think that SM needs to be kept pure - that is, single and constantly shat upon by life - to be “relatable” and true to the essence of SM, are all hanging around stinking up the place we will never get anything good.
      It’s not a cardinal sin to let Peter have something good in his life. A family. It raises the stakes and makes the stories far more compelling than Peter going on yet another date with yet another nobody Love Interest who will be forgotten again (Carlie Cooper who?) who he keeps bailing on because he’s SM and can’t let them know. It’s been done to death and any long term fan (which many of us are) are truly sick of it. And if Peter ALWAYS loses, the losses cease to have impact and anything that ever seems like a win can never be enjoyed, as you know it will just be snatched away again. The wins need to be real and sustained so that the losses have any real meaning.

    • @edg4441
      @edg4441 3 дні тому +1

      @@jonathanl-j4i Great points.

    • @mnstash
      @mnstash  День тому

      Hey mate been a while :) i find it incredibly sad looking over the 60 issues during the ‘zeb wells’ era, it single-handedly ruined all hope that was created by Nick Spencer of a Spider-Man comic that’s actually worth our time effort and money! Now all you see is piles and piles of this trash because no one simply wants it and moving from this into the 8 deaths of Spider-Man story is just even more depressing, we genuinely might have to watch him get killed over and over again…WHY

    • @edg4441
      @edg4441 День тому

      @@mnstash Great points. The other reason I will follow Kelly and Ireland's "8 Deaths of Spider-Man" is to satisfy my curiosity concerning what these writers do with Felicia Hardy/The Black Cat and MJ/Jackpot? Will Felicia come back into Peter's life because Kelly was a proponent of Peter and Felicia's relationship, even though I think Kelly will have minimal input in this upcoming run? I'd bet Ireland will be doing almost all of the writing, I'm also interested to see if MJ stays with Paul, and remains to be "Jackpot". I have no idea why I'm curious because "ASM" is terrible. What'll probably happen is that Felcia and MJ won't be in this run. All I know is I'm giving this upcoming run "a short leash". If it's as horrible as the Zeb Wells run or worse, I'll stop following the run after a few issues. There's a minuscule chance this run will be good, but I'm not expecting it to be good. Cheers.

  • @ToxicVex267
    @ToxicVex267 2 дні тому +1

    So long as Paul remains my suffering continues.

  • @crosshair9907
    @crosshair9907 3 дні тому +2

    The most brutal comic fight I've ever read was easily Punisher The List, which makes this fight look pathetic in comparison. Drawn by JRJR when he actually had time to draw the damn art in the book (instead of the rushed crap we get in current ASM)

    • @mnstash
      @mnstash  День тому +1

      Everything just looks so unbelievably stiff within this comic. His art has downgraded so drastically have you seen his latest DD covers?!

    • @crosshair9907
      @crosshair9907 День тому

      @@mnstash It's just a shame since he used to have such a unique art style like his father.

  • @kevin-2.1
    @kevin-2.1 2 дні тому

    I love that Spider-Man is punching tombstone hard! The only problem with this issue to me is that Spider-Man got knocked by a train! Let it end!

  • @eddiesamakovski8216
    @eddiesamakovski8216 3 дні тому +1

    Can’t wait really enjoyed your vid and view keep them coming cheers

    • @mnstash
      @mnstash  День тому

      Thanks, will do!

  • @jcreed09
    @jcreed09 3 дні тому +2

    Zeb Wells and Lowe made Spider-Man Emotionally Weak and also made him physically weak as well...Tombstone?! Fucker's a 2nd rater at best, I've read Lonnie when he was a Prison Bully terrorizing Robbie. Zeb Wells has fixation with 2nd 3rd 4th Tier Villains, he brought back obscure Emissary to ruin Peter's life, imagine if Zeb had another year?! - the next Big Bad?- Big Wheel, Rocket Racer, Human Fly

    • @mnstash
      @mnstash  День тому

      Not to mention that he used said 4th tier villain to ruin all of Nick Spenser’s hard work😭

    • @jcreed09
      @jcreed09 День тому

      @@mnstash Nick Spenser's run was the reason I came back to ASM, I thought the next writer would build on his work and finally nix OMD. Didn't happen and the "Creatives" decided to take 3 steps back with Zeb Wells. Lost me again after Issue #35, thought the Sin Spider-Man had a really good premise but ended in a NOTHING. So ASM lost me again.
      Anyway, straight up Q for you, next issues "8 Deaths of Whatever" looks like filler that won't mean anything, that won't fix anything, so I'm going to pass but do you think the next writer after will clean up the Zeb Wells Mess?- or just pretend it never happened and Paul will go by the way of Pedro, just disappear and never mentioned again?

  • @BoudewijnPiet
    @BoudewijnPiet 3 дні тому +3

    Just peeked in and give my thumbs up to yet another great issue of Usm.
    What did Nick have to say in the letters that made you lose your mind?
    Or do we not want to know?

    • @mnstash
      @mnstash  День тому +2

      He was making fun of Peter and MJ fans, joking that ‘Peter and shay will get married and stay together forever and ever’

    • @BoudewijnPiet
      @BoudewijnPiet День тому

      @@mnstash aww, i gave up on it.
      Prick Brevoort said its never going to happen, the marriage is not comming back.
      And Paul is not leaving that little mass murderer is going to stay as permanent supporting cast in Asm.
      Because Lowe said we are not removing Jackpot.

  • @edrianraneses5864
    @edrianraneses5864 3 дні тому +1

    Here's hoping you review the newest Ultimate Spider-Man Issue like Issue 10 in particular it's great despite Spider-Man not being there but still

    • @mnstash
      @mnstash  2 дні тому

      Hey incase you forgot the last time I replied I actually said that ASM and USM will always have a video posted! So let’s just try to focus on the one that I spent hours making :)

    • @edrianraneses5864
      @edrianraneses5864 2 дні тому

      @@mnstash Sure thing

  • @chemostar2361
    @chemostar2361 День тому

    paul needs a spinoff series

  • @MinasTsambanis
    @MinasTsambanis 3 дні тому +2

    Just subscribed!

    • @mnstash
      @mnstash  3 дні тому +1

      Legend, thank you so much :)

  • @BrandontheAwesome
    @BrandontheAwesome 2 дні тому +2

    Guess Spider-Sense took a day off, huh?

    • @mnstash
      @mnstash  День тому +2

      How did a man who can dodge bullets get footswept?

    • @BrandontheAwesome
      @BrandontheAwesome День тому

      @@mnstash Or beaten that badly by a C-lister?

    • @jonathanl-j4i
      @jonathanl-j4i День тому +1

      @@mnstash probably the same way Paul managed to land a blow on him… SM has been downgraded to “barely competent in any aspect of his life.”

  • @rodrigogdc9960
    @rodrigogdc9960 3 дні тому +3

    9:58
    I want to believe that is not something certain and Nick Lowe just wanted to bait everyone that reads the comic just to enrage the fans and then make them go to buy it, instead of choking himself swallowing a gluestick...

  • @celestialsoldier622
    @celestialsoldier622 3 дні тому +2

    How come you don' review vemon war?

    • @mnstash
      @mnstash  3 дні тому +2

      Ive a lot of catchup