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  • This time I cover the opposite of the Vestiges of Divergence, the Arms of the Betrayer. These are artifacts that unlock/awaken similar to the Vestiges but they are evil and slightly more powerful. They are all weapons and I like pretty much all of them, but the Warhammer and the Rapier are definitely my favorite. Which one is your favorite? Also for those who were worried, my little guy is feeling much better!
    7:20. Blade of broken mirrors
    11:09. Grovelthrash
    13:30. Lash of Shadows
    16:35. Mace of the Black Crown
    18:42. Ruins wake
    21:05 Silken Spike
    23:27. Bloody End
    25:10 Will of the Talon
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 115

  • @syzore2
    @syzore2 4 роки тому +121

    6:50 Must be devoured by Uk'otoa
    *Whispers Uk'otoa*

  • @MrBiloxifireman
    @MrBiloxifireman 4 роки тому +16

    7:20. Blade of broken mirrors
    11:09. Grovel thrash
    13:30. Lash of Shadows
    16:35. Mace of the Black Crown
    18:42. Ruins wake
    21:05 Silken Spike
    23:27. Bloody End
    25:10 Will of the Talon.. 5d6 Bonus Action x5. Not bad.
    Feel free to correct any errors and spelling. Thanks 😊

  • @Eddrian32
    @Eddrian32 4 роки тому +59

    I suppose for the will of the talon, that's intended to be a more iron clad order, the tyrannical subjugation of Innocents, and the "decisive action" would be the disregard of those Innocents. Also, a devil would define "fair share" a little differently than a mortal would...

    • @pedroxavier4227
      @pedroxavier4227 4 роки тому +7

      I can't kill him it's not bahamut's way
      Will of the Talon: dewit

  • @felixrivera895
    @felixrivera895 4 роки тому +65

    A major benefit including immunity to Stun? *The Monk wants to know your location*

    • @p00tis
      @p00tis 4 роки тому +2

      Good. Fuck Monks.

    • @Nildread
      @Nildread 4 роки тому +4

      @@p00tis just because you find Beau attractive doesn't mean we all do.

    • @p00tis
      @p00tis 4 роки тому +2

      @@Nildread You couldn't pay me to even consider that god awful character remotely attractive.

    • @Nildread
      @Nildread 4 роки тому

      @@p00tis that's good because odd considering is free

  • @bigbepis6515
    @bigbepis6515 4 роки тому +18

    I found your videos since I'm a critter but I've got to say I really like the sit down and review format your videos are in and after the explorers guide is through I'm looking forward to what you get up to next

  • @DovaDonut
    @DovaDonut 4 роки тому +38

    I actually find these weapons to be interesting in the view that I can trick my players and figure out what their true morality is.

  • @MM-lv7iy
    @MM-lv7iy 4 роки тому +36

    Didn’t they introduce weapons that recharge their abilities during dusk instead of dawn? You would think that would flavor better with these evil weapons instead of the standard.

    • @NerdImmersion
      @NerdImmersion  4 роки тому +10

      Right?

    • @fatilumkins8730
      @fatilumkins8730 4 роки тому +2

      I wonder if it’s an attempt to possibly hide it’s true nature from some groups.

    • @panheaddragonwolfpaw
      @panheaddragonwolfpaw 4 роки тому +2

      Especially with the Lolth weapon, considering its exalted ability is only useful at night or in a really dark dungeon.

    • @goldengaruda8935
      @goldengaruda8935 3 роки тому

      Simplicity?

  • @Ummthatoneplace
    @Ummthatoneplace 4 роки тому +15

    I've been playing with the idea of transforming Agony (the flail Vestige from Tal'dorei guide) into one of the Betrayer arms instead. It fits better thematically in my mind with flails being the weapon of choice to Yeenoghu.

  • @shihi51
    @shihi51 4 роки тому +31

    I cant tell if its the fact that villains inherently are cooler or more interesting to me, or if these actually had more time put into them. Either way I'm about to put these in the hands of some really nasty bosses!

    • @btCharlie_
      @btCharlie_ 4 роки тому +4

      I think it's the personality of sentient weapons and how they tend to be evil-ish. It sends the mind racing thinking about the RP possibilities.

  • @David25512
    @David25512 4 роки тому +12

    I like how Will of the Talon's breath weapon functions better than a Dragonborn's. Aye, it ain't easy being green

  • @foggy370
    @foggy370 4 роки тому +10

    Hey man, just wanted to let you know that your content is awesome. Please keep putting videos out. It's one of the few things I look forward to these days.

  • @coolnamebro7363
    @coolnamebro7363 4 роки тому +4

    Be artificer, attune to all of them, get true polymorphed into maralith=become death destroyer of memes.

  • @hot_mustard
    @hot_mustard 4 роки тому +8

    I have a different interpretation of the one that desires "a fair share of treasure in return". I think that means that since the character is a leader, makes decisions in battle, etc - it is only fair that they get a larger share of treasure than others. The "in return" is important - in payment for their leadership they get more in return.

  • @BR4IN1N4J4R
    @BR4IN1N4J4R 4 роки тому +8

    As someone with a LE Dragonborn Conquest Paladin of Tiamat in the backlog of Characters, Will of the Talon sounds like the perfect weapon for him

  • @zacharylona
    @zacharylona 3 роки тому

    Favorite response to the minor detrimental property of being blinded while more than 10' apart: "it's my seeing eye... sword."

  • @deegandeloof4953
    @deegandeloof4953 4 роки тому +26

    I'm curious as to if good characters can attune, even though I haven't watched the video yet

    • @NerdImmersion
      @NerdImmersion  4 роки тому +18

      None of them are restricted by alignment, so there doesn't seem to be a reason why.

    • @Karak971
      @Karak971 4 роки тому +7

      If anything I'd say the most interesting stories could come from a good character attuning to one not knowing what they are

  • @rayar3234
    @rayar3234 4 роки тому +6

    I love that you made the Uk'otoa echo lol

  • @anionleader
    @anionleader 4 роки тому +12

    Hey, you shaved! Looking good, Ted! All of the Wildemount stuff you've done is excellent thus far.

    • @NerdImmersion
      @NerdImmersion  4 роки тому +6

      Yeah, I debated doing a quarantine beard and just letting it grow the whole time. But I decided instead, I'm going to go the other way and try to get in shape over the quarantine. And start with a little grooming

  • @americatheuneducated3715
    @americatheuneducated3715 2 роки тому

    I agree with your assessment of the lash of shadows and having snake heads, This is an example of homebrewing fitting the weapon better as I created a dormant, awakened, and an exalted version of each. Dormant I erased 3 heads from the image, giving it just 2, then only 3 heads in awakened and finally only 4 in exalted.

  • @theyonlycomeoutwhenitsquiet
    @theyonlycomeoutwhenitsquiet 4 роки тому +2

    The vestiges of divergence and the arms of the betrayers remind me very much of the codices in Strongholds and Followers, in that they cause individual players to have seriously overpowered items which can warp the expected capacity of the player. And they provide so much possibility for story. Check out the codices from Matt Colville if you can, they’re worth a look.

  • @Daltygaming2
    @Daltygaming2 4 роки тому +12

    Have you ever thought about revisiting the unofficial Tal’Dorei campaign book?

  • @nandodando9695
    @nandodando9695 3 роки тому +1

    16:35 great mace

  • @valasafantastic1055
    @valasafantastic1055 4 роки тому +1

    I made a bunch of homebrew magical whips! I will be adding a 5th poison for the whip if I use it. Fun video thanks!

  • @Infocusburning
    @Infocusburning 4 роки тому +1

    I really appreciate hour coverage brother. Thank you and keep up the good work ✊

  • @kaneunderwood8261
    @kaneunderwood8261 4 роки тому +4

    The talking dagger, the blade of broken mirrors, reminds me of rubilax from wakfu. Sorry please tell me I'm wrong.

    • @deathfury4039
      @deathfury4039 3 роки тому

      Finally, someone who both plays dnd and watches Wakfu!!!!!

  • @aaronsummers2292
    @aaronsummers2292 4 роки тому +5

    Curious, if I could borrow your expertise in Arcana? I have a player who's spell casting focus is a crystal ball, even though he has multiple staffs he prefers his crystal ball.. Are there any crystal balls in dnd lore that have perks? Looking for an item to award. Thank you for any help.

    • @NerdImmersion
      @NerdImmersion  4 роки тому +3

      There are the literal dnd Crystal Balls, there are 3 variations

  • @melvixen1943
    @melvixen1943 4 роки тому +2

    2 things.
    1st: None of the arms are true ranged weapons and 5e lacks magic ranged weapons.
    2nd: All the beings in the weapons are pretty powerful. I would have wished they would have added some fluff that enables them as hexblade / infernal patrons. Maybe with the weapon giving some new spelloptions to the hexblade warlock.

    • @brayne6231
      @brayne6231 4 роки тому +3

      The "Lesser Idols" section of the book details the Arms as Hexblade or Fiend Warlock patrons as well as Death or War Cleric options

    • @melvixen1943
      @melvixen1943 4 роки тому

      @@brayne6231 oh? Then the book moved up a lot on my "D&D stuff i need to buy" list

  • @medievalweaponmaster
    @medievalweaponmaster 4 роки тому +2

    Wouldn't it be more thematic for the Will of the Talon to have a Red Abishai in it instead of a bone devil.

    • @NerdImmersion
      @NerdImmersion  4 роки тому +2

      Any Abishai really

    • @ANDELE3025
      @ANDELE3025 4 роки тому +1

      @@NerdImmersion 5 of them, constantly arguing and bickering over the right type of action to take, softly forcing the player to be more tyrannical and iron handed.

  • @oscarbrazil9922
    @oscarbrazil9922 4 роки тому +2

    It really got me thinking that how powerful is Uk’ota that he can manage to destroy an arm of a betrayer.

    • @j.w.7608
      @j.w.7608 3 роки тому

      Probably about as strong as tiamat's blood or an ancient red dragon it seems

  • @lordvaust5830
    @lordvaust5830 4 роки тому +1

    I really like Tiamat. There’s a lot of potential that was sort of wasted in that one module... but the Will of the Talon and the Wreathe of he Prism could be the crux of an adventure set around Tiamat’s cult. Maybe the players have to use the Wreathe against the cult to stop some powerful adult dragon, or the Will of the Talon is the only weapon that can kill a powerful demon summoned by Tiamat’s followers that’s threatening the player’s home base.

  • @DwarfDaddy
    @DwarfDaddy 4 роки тому +1

    You had me at snake headed whip

  • @dungeonpastor8295
    @dungeonpastor8295 4 роки тому +1

    Fjord’s sword from the wild other I believe is a vestige

    • @agent00puffball
      @agent00puffball 4 роки тому

      Stormrazer is 100% a vestige. The Sword of Fathoms is way closer to a Betrayer weapon, though I don't think it was.

    • @Nildread
      @Nildread 4 роки тому

      @@agent00puffball it depends on definitions, and presumably if Matt will have either one evolve. Because if vestige/arm only relates to the calamity, then maybe not. but if it's just a weapon created by a god or for a god or whatever, I'd argue that they both fit that criteria. Even if uk'otoa isn't technically a "god" there's evidence that worship might be connected to attaining godly powers and uk'otoa is undoubtedly worshipped.

  • @decobyjones9491
    @decobyjones9491 4 роки тому +3

    Neat but besides the mace the other ones can't really influence your players to become evil. They also can't really end Attunement by themselves so they're just really weapons with some attitude.

    • @justincaviness
      @justincaviness 4 роки тому +2

      Decoby Jones The dagger is perfect for influencing someone so that they become evil. It uses your own values against you in order to do so.

    • @decobyjones9491
      @decobyjones9491 4 роки тому +1

      @@justincaviness your right must have skipped it during my first watch through.

  • @stevenpeven258
    @stevenpeven258 4 роки тому +1

    I can see people attempting to banish the devils and demons out of the weapons, while keeping at least some of the magical properties of the weapons

    • @astridstarr2787
      @astridstarr2787 3 роки тому

      I presented the idea of a ritual to banish the fiend from the weapon in exchange for bonding their own soul to the weapon, becoming the new mind in the weapon upon death

  • @keganbancroft3617
    @keganbancroft3617 4 роки тому +1

    honestly Grumsh's spear is super cool

  • @Hromovlad1
    @Hromovlad1 4 роки тому +1

    Sounds like good patrons for a Hexblade Warlock

  • @snazzyfeathers
    @snazzyfeathers 2 роки тому

    This is an old video but I agree with the snake head whip. Whips have always been a really bad weapon to use in general because of how low the damage die is, and pairing that whip with poison damage (the most often resistant/immune damage) and tying it to a con save (the worst save to target) makes it the worse item on the list in my opinion. If it did at least an additional d4 per head it would be a little better.

  • @sozintallus5619
    @sozintallus5619 4 роки тому +1

    Blade of broken mirrors seems like weapon for a college of whisper bard

  • @maxx8362
    @maxx8362 4 роки тому +1

    I get around the issue of there not being enough. or any, magic weapons of a certain type by just ignoring the weapon type of any printed magic item. I am particularly fond of the idea for a whip of disruption, vorpal sickle, or light hammer of striking.

    • @NerdImmersion
      @NerdImmersion  4 роки тому +1

      Yeah, it's always just a bummer. Whip of Disruption is how I made my Castlevania Vampire Killer Whip

    • @melvixen1943
      @melvixen1943 4 роки тому

      I like to sometimes tack on variants of spelleffects and UA abilities that didnt make it into the game.
      My last tired artifact weapon (for a barbarian) was actualy an dwarven axe that did additional thunderdamage and added a bit of walkingspeed.
      It could inflict Silence on a targed on the 3rd stage if you had hit.

  • @JamesSamson487
    @JamesSamson487 4 роки тому

    My favourite is the Bloody End, just cos Bane is my favourite Betrayer God, although Asmodeus comes a close second.

  • @cybermewt
    @cybermewt 4 роки тому

    I've a small question here... would an Identify spell tell everything about these 'vestiges of divergence/arms of the betrayers'? would only reveal the properties of the first state? would it reveal the 'downsides' or are considered curses? would it tell the caster how to unlock the new states?

    • @j.w.7608
      @j.w.7608 3 роки тому

      One of things depending on the DM; a similar situation happened in critical role season 2 with the wizard character Caleb and his use of Identify. The DM said Identify is a low level spell so dont expect it to tell you everything! About an higher rarity item

  • @Losgatos3690
    @Losgatos3690 4 роки тому +2

    Evil campaign starting at level 7 with one of these each lol

    • @NerdImmersion
      @NerdImmersion  4 роки тому

      I mean, we're about to hit level 7 in the Evil Campaign I'm playing in, so I wouldn't mind having one

  • @DragonmasterCire
    @DragonmasterCire 4 роки тому

    Craven's Edge was a sentiment weapon that Grog wielded, Were it was not a full example it had an awaken state when it was slated with enough blood

  • @Meteor2022
    @Meteor2022 4 роки тому

    Yasha needs the spear and Stormgirdle.

  • @Serothil_and_stuff
    @Serothil_and_stuff 4 роки тому +1

    Sapient not sentient. How come no one gets the difference. Sentient means "feeling" as in can experience pain and pleasure. Sapient means capable of complex "thinking" are self aware.
    Humans are both.
    Animals are sentient but not sapient.
    The arms of the Betrayers can think for themselves but not feel anything, therefore they are sapient but not sentient.
    Or do I miss understand this. Do they just feel but not think? Like a dog trained to fight and kill, but as a weapon?

  • @vegarskaugen6881
    @vegarskaugen6881 4 роки тому +1

    i love rulns Wake

  • @siyarg.4900
    @siyarg.4900 4 роки тому +1

    I hope your son is doing well and gets better soon! Also Thanks for all uploads, they've genuinely helped me decided whether to buy the book or not

  • @thornelson1411
    @thornelson1411 4 роки тому +1

    I'm wondering if the Wreath of the Prism is actually meant for Bahamut

    • @ANDELE3025
      @ANDELE3025 4 роки тому

      Nah, its kinda fitting since Bahamut always was a stickler (and only saw magic items as a tool to purge evil), Hlals item would be a prank and Null probably hands out non-orcus related dracolichdom to those worthy instead of a item. And because she is the one dragon to not have the main "mooks" of her forces be actual dragons in most cases.

  • @kivagalehall4965
    @kivagalehall4965 4 роки тому +8

    I’m sad there are none for magic users.

    • @decobyjones9491
      @decobyjones9491 4 роки тому +3

      Me too but can you really get something better than a staff of Magi

    • @yashmody417
      @yashmody417 4 роки тому +1

      There's some elsewhere in the book

    • @Nildread
      @Nildread 4 роки тому +3

      There's cool stuff in the vestiges. Armour for druids/anyone that uses polymorph or a shape change. A tome for wizards. But I don't see why you couldn't take the vestiges from the other book + the vestiges and the arms from here and then kinda Frankenstein your own based on them/other magic items or artifacts.

    • @Nildread
      @Nildread 4 роки тому +1

      I'm also a fan of looking over the spells, feats, and class features and adding them to items or amplifying them to some extent. Mat Colville's Fortresses and strongholds book has some ideas for improving class features that can be interesting.

  • @drunkenbutterfly21
    @drunkenbutterfly21 4 роки тому

    Bloody end would be perfect for a conquest paladin both mechanically and flavour wise

    • @agent00puffball
      @agent00puffball 4 роки тому

      Yeah man. If I just re-skin it as a flail instead of a morningstar it is perfect for one of my NPCs.

  • @mawindy52
    @mawindy52 4 роки тому

    I do wish they would have made more weapon vestiges or at least try to rework/reword the original vestiges. I also like you love whips and have created some college magical whips that pump up the damage.

    • @NerdImmersion
      @NerdImmersion  4 роки тому

      The old vestiges live in publishing hell unfortunately, so they won't be reprinted anytime soon

  • @MM-lv7iy
    @MM-lv7iy 4 роки тому

    Didn’t they change the whips used by priestesses of Lolth into tentacles instead of snakes? I mean, flavor however you want, I’m just wondering.

  • @karpmageddon4155
    @karpmageddon4155 4 роки тому

    Wouldn't destroying them result in the fiends release and therefore be a goal of said fiends? 🤔

    • @j.w.7608
      @j.w.7608 3 роки тому

      I think the fiends go back to the plane their from; and I think they'd rather be on the material plane so they can mess with humans

  • @Throrface
    @Throrface 4 роки тому

    I think it's a bit of a bummer that the Arms of the Betrayers don't have any spellcaster weapons.

  • @The_Gelatinman
    @The_Gelatinman 4 роки тому

    So in these type of videos are you going over every magic item or are there more you're leaving out

    • @NerdImmersion
      @NerdImmersion  4 роки тому

      In this video I went over every Arm of the Betrayer. Just like I went over ever Vestige in the Vestige video and every other magic item in the magic item video. The only time something would have been left out is if it was buried somewhere in the rest of the book and not listed in the Wildemount Treasure section.

    • @The_Gelatinman
      @The_Gelatinman 4 роки тому +1

      @@NerdImmersion Ok cool I was just wondering,love your videos by the way keep it up man.

  • @panheaddragonwolfpaw
    @panheaddragonwolfpaw 4 роки тому

    Why did they give the Blade of Broken Mirrors, a weapon perfect for Assassins, a personality that completely hates sneaking around, slowly killing enemies? It would be comedic the first time, but when you have to loudly argue with your dagger every time you are trying to patiently wait for the perfect time to strike, it would get pretty old.

    • @j.w.7608
      @j.w.7608 3 роки тому

      Maybe strike up a deal with the dagger a situation where u can get your sneaky kills and it can get what it wants so it can b quit while u stabby stab

  • @kaelsfan1940
    @kaelsfan1940 4 роки тому

    MAYOR SPOILERS
    Calianna's Bowl was probably one of these wdyt?

  • @jordancarlson9071
    @jordancarlson9071 4 роки тому

    What about Dyrrn's Tentacle Whip from Eberron?
    My character is about to get one, I think.

    • @NerdImmersion
      @NerdImmersion  4 роки тому +1

      i forgot about that!

    • @jordancarlson9071
      @jordancarlson9071 4 роки тому

      @@NerdImmersion
      I've been loving the whip build! Took your advice when making my first character.
      He's crazy effective!
      I've been using the barbed chains from a chained devil for my whips thus far. Been pretty fun getting both damage and grapple!

  • @optimus2200
    @optimus2200 4 роки тому

    So ... about that taldorie book ted have you forgot or what ? XD

  • @whitleypedia
    @whitleypedia 3 роки тому

    "Geeze, these are rough" -- nice summary of some pretty terrible stuff :)

  • @samtheserpint
    @samtheserpint 4 роки тому

    the vestiges are not all good.

  • @dittmar104
    @dittmar104 4 роки тому

    intro is pretty loud compared to the rest of the video.