EDEA Skates: ICE FLY vs. PIANO - Can You Overboot in Edea? How Long Do Edeas Last? Which is Better?
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- Опубліковано 19 тра 2024
- I have both the Edea Ice Fly and the Edea Piano. I've even skated in one of each boot! Which should you get? How long do Edea skates last? Can you overboot in Edea skates? Is the Edea Piano or Ice Fly better for you? Can you get them serviced in the U.S. if you purchase them in Europe or have them shipped? Should you buy them online or go to a tech? I go over all the differences from my experience with both the Edea Ice Fly and Piano with John Wilson Gold Seal blades!
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00:00 Intro | Edea Ice Fly vs Piano
00:30 Edea Ice Fly Figure Skates
01:19 Skating in 2 Different Skates!
02:30 Can You Overboot in Edea?
03:36 Edea vs Traditional Leather Skate Boot | Edea vs Riedell
04:30 Edea Shorter Blade Size
06:36 Edea Break-In Time
07:45 Edea Noene Insoles
08:50 Edea Special Screws | Edea Waterproofing
09:26 Edea Boot Shaping | Edea Custom Fitting
09:53 Can You Bake Edea Skates?
11:35 Edea Ice Fly Breakdown | How Long Do Ice Flys Last?
12:33 Edea Laces | Edea Lacing
13:04 Edea Split Tongue | Edea New Tongue vs Edea Old Old Tongue
14:18 Edea Piano
15:11 Edea Piano Height
16:00 Edea Piano Antishock System
16:39 Piano Ergonomic Heel Lock
17:10 Piano Stiffness | How Stiff Is Edea Piano?
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19:19 Edea Concerto
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I just posted my video on the Edea Concerto: ua-cam.com/video/uu6-AS6_LPQ/v-deo.html
Hey Aimée, I want to switch to edea, currently skating in Risport and i just got a new blade..
So i know that Risport and edea were one company once so do you know if i need an other blade switching from Risport Royal pro boot to edea piano boot?
@@lynni3461 Hi Julianna! The family that founded Risport sold it to Rossignol Group in 1995. However, it was not until 2002 that Edea came to be. So, the blade size between Risport and Edea is likely different to be evolution of both companies. The best thing to do is to find a trusted skate tech and get fitted for Edea - the tech should be able to tell you what blade size is appropriate for your Edea boots and if your old blade can work with them.
My daughter just got her first pair of ice flys. She is going to be 11 next month. She has landed all of her doubles except double axel. Working on consistency. We got lucky in that her blade size didn't change because she went up in boot size. So far the ice flys are going well
Good for you and your daughter!
Thank you! This was a very informative and well structured video❤️
You’re very welcome!
Tks so much for your patient intro of these two versions~~
You're welcome!
This is super helpful, thanks so much! I would love a video on the Concerto. I just purchased the Chrous and I'm excited to try them. I'm an adult skater, and just getting back into freestyle (single jumps). I'm also testing ice dance and MIF.
You're very welcome, Lisa! Thanks taking the time to comment! Let me know how the Chorus is for you!
I just posted my video on the Concerto: ua-cam.com/video/uu6-AS6_LPQ/v-deo.html
Rip replay button! Just love watching it over and over again as it is so informative. ❤️
Glad you liked it!!
Aimee, thank you for sharing your very informative Edea Ice Fly and Piano video comparison. I will be wearing new Edea Chorus for the first time with my new Roll-Line Linea inline figure skate frames!
You're so welcome! Let me know how they are!
@ I will!
I just bought my first pair of edea Ice flys, I'm really happy to see this video !!
I'm glad you liked it!
Thank you so much I’m using ice fly right now but I’m getting new skates so this video is very helpful
You’re welcome!
Super interesting video about the Edea specificities
Glad you liked it!
I have Concerto boots with the split tongue but have never experienced any discomfort from the tongue. I’ve been skating on them for almost 3 years. Maybe my next boots will be Ice Fly. My first Edeas were Chorus but they were too big for me so I couldn’t reach the toe pick for axel jumps so I switched. I’m an adult skater who started at 40 almost 15 years ago. Didn’t have much trouble adapting to a shorter blade because I was already in Risport boots. Thank you for your videos.
You’re welcome! Thank you for watching!
I experience the tongue pushing down with my Ice Fly having the split one.
I actually have an exostosis on my left foot because my skates were not punched, so I agree with customizing all skates 100%. Unfortunately, we don't have any skate tech dealing with edeas in the country, and there are only 2 dealers.
Are you able to send them to a tech with a foot tracing or mark the boot where you need to shaped? Note that you can't "punch out" Edeas like you would a leather skate. They have to be shaped using a high powered hair dryer by an Edea authorized tech.
Yes, please a video on the Concerto. They seems to be neglected in the review world, so it's hard to find how people like them, the pros and cons,...
I think Concertos are overlooked as an option because most people go to the Ice Fly!
Here's the video on the Concerto: ua-cam.com/video/uu6-AS6_LPQ/v-deo.html
I have Ice Fly's for ice and in-line figure skates. I also have Edea Fly's for quad artistic roller skating. The roller Fly's have the split down the middle like the Pianos. I always wondered why my Ice Fly's were more comfortable than the Fly's on my quads, now I know why! The Fly's DO press down, and it is annoying. Amazing how such a small change can make a huge difference. Apparently they have updated the new Fly's to have the non split tounge.
Yes, they changed the tongue back on all models at least 3 years ago.
I love this video so much. It's so in depth. I am really on the fence about getting any of the top 3 Edea boots.
I currently have chorus. Have had them since December 2019 and I feel the support gradually going away. I am an adult skater. About 5ft4, weight is roughly 100lbs. I however tend to land pretty hard when I land my single axel or any other single jump thanks to the height I have in them. I am working on doubles. I hope the chorus last me for the rest of the season as I skate around 9-10 hours a week.
I don't think the concerto is going to last me more than a season with the way I jump and it's going to get more intense once I get the hang of my doubles.
The ice fly would be a good fit, but it doesn't have the cushioning at the back, which I need as I have skated in other skates that didn't have that and I would hurt my achillese tendon. Unless I have my tech shape them like you did with yours. I would love the piano and a tech from another store had told me that was most likely the better option for me considering how much I skate per week.
The Concerto is stronger than the Chorus and only slightly less stiff than the Ice Fly! If you've had the Chorus for almost 2 years, the Concerto would be a good option! Most skaters really won't get more than a season out of their Edeas. Some skaters only get half a season out of them!
@ I am getting fitted this Saturday for the edea concerto, ice fly and piano and I am looking forward. Just to get a feel for how they feel compared to one another. Purely out of budget I would go for the concerto.
@@YannisGoedermans Let me know how it goes!
@ So my skate tech actually recommended the ice fly or piano for me. I took my current skates to him and he said they really didn't have any support left and honestly I feel that. I can squeeze the boot like it's a soft skate. And since I'm looking for a boot that will last me longer than just 1 season.
I tried all three. Obviously the concerto was the comfiest right out of the box despite feeling much more rigid than my current worn out chorus boots. I also felt that I would be replacing those after a season. I just knew it.
As far as the Ice Fly goes, I could instantly tell it was going to give my navicular bone lots of problems, much like my old Risports. It hurt badly the moment I went in there and it increased when I was doing a slight kneebend.
And the Piano felt more comfortable on my foot than the Ice Fly. Not as comfy as say the Concerto but I could tell the break in time will be minimal for me.
And I felt very little difference between the Ice Fly and Piano (and since it has to be ordered, it'll have the old tongue again, praise the skating gods).
That said, I ordered the pianos. I fit perfectly in a standard width of the boot so there is a plus there. And I'm keeping my gold seal rev blades. If all goes well, I should be skating on them next week.
It's normal for a boot to only last 1 season or even only 5-9 months. But it does sound as if the Chorus is not supportive enough for you! The Piano is VERY stiff and I found them quite difficult to wear for long periods. It's difficult to tell when you're just trying them on. It's different once you get on the ice.
Hi. I am an adult skater. I used to skate for a year when I was around 11 - 12 and learnt basic skills there. I just got back on ice about a month. I have my Jackson Freestyle the tech guy said it would fit my level. The problem is the boots are a bit too big for me I decided to buy it at that time cause it was the only size left in the stock TT. I just can't wait to skate and I still wasn't sure if I'm gonna stay in this sport that long. At first, it was fine in Jackson even with a litttttttttle bigger size. It took me not so much time to revive all those basic skills like 3 turns, crossover, spiral, 2-foot spin and stuff I learnt when I was young.
now I am learning single jumps and spins. My Jackson is start to annoy me a bit not only it always getting looser while i skate (I re-tie them a lot) I also start feeling pain in my angle when I practice a lot of jumps (with only half and single jumps) especially on right foot that I land on when. My coach says if I progress in higher level further more I might need a new pair of skates with better blades soon.
I start researching a lot on what skate should I buy if I am good at all those single jumps and start learning some doubles. I am super interested about Edea Ice Fly with all those qualities, light weight and super comfortable. a lot of people say it might not for lower level skater but I just want something that will last long. Do you think switching to Edea Ice Fly a good choice for me? When do you recommend it's time to get a new skate (of course not very soon I can do a lot with my Jackson Freestyle)
I do talk to my coach about this she said only passing FS3 is already the time and she has no comment on Edea cause she's never had one before loll. So I would like to you your opinion. thanks!
I my opinion, Edea Ice Fly is a great choice for adult skaters! I highly recommend that you go to an Edea authorized dealer and have a fitting as soon as you can because you could get injured if you continue to wear skates that are incorrectly sized. Follow your coach's advice - it's already time for you to look at new boots and blades! Let me know how it works for you!
@ thank you so much for your advice 🥰 Btw love your videos they’re so informative. Keep doing it👐🏻
@@yumithiyathorn3663 You're welcome!
you are doing a great
I am much late, but its worth a shot. I think this is a very very dumb question but, and i think i’ve lost my mind, but hey. I am a 13yr old 80pounds just starting singles. I have a very very slim but long foot and I think I would do well in edea. Friend has got them, and she’s also a slim footer :). I looked everywhere and some “guides” suggest I get Concertos or Chorus but by the comments on your videos people say there foot can slide in and I hate that feeling. I like EVERYTHING to be snug and I really want a lot of support. I don’t have a coach but I am really looking into more serious figure skating. I am self taught on a public rink up till Basic 7/8. There are sadly NO skate techs (not for edea, any techs) nor edea distributors in my country. I just got some off the shelf $30 skates and I was hoping I could do some basic spins and waltz jumps in them but they are hella stiff. I can’t even bend in them and I feel like my heel is reaching the back. What do you suggest do I continue with my current skates and do some basic stuff, or do I make an investment and start with some edeas. Only thing I’m hoping for is that concertos or choruses give me enough support, and I don’t have to go straight to pianos. Thanks in advance
No, you should not be able to slide around in Edea. I don't slide around at all in my Edea boots - I have Pianos, Ice Flys and Concertos. The thing is that they MUST be fitted correctly and you do need a tech to do that. With Edea you also need them shaped to your foot and that is done with a high power hair dryer and special tools. So, you do need an authorized tech to work on them. If you don't have anyone in your area, I have a video about what you can do here: ua-cam.com/video/MqYmERC5tgk/v-deo.html But, honestly, unless there is someone that you can work with locally or by shipping back and forth, I think you should consider another brand. But, not something off the shelf. Please do as I suggest in my videos and talk to others at the rink. If you don't have a coach (and you should, all skaters really need a coach!), ask the person in charge of figure skating at your facility and other skaters too!
I recently got the edea overtures, and they broke down so so quickly. I skate four times a weeks and im starting doubles, they were just really soft and unsupportive. This was really helpful, im thinking of getting the ice flys. My biggest concern is that they will break down just as fast as my overtures.
The Overture is only rated for single jumps. It's much less supportive than the Concerto and Ice Fly. But, depending on your height and weight, you may want to look into Pianos too if you are very hard on your skates. Talk to your coach and skate tech!
I also have the overtures, I try to skate twice a week but my local rink is currently shut thanks to miss rona. My skates broke down the fist week of use, im getting into axels now and my takeoffs can be iffy because I cant get enough height with the lack of ancle support. In the near future i would love to have the pianos
There's a big difference between Overtures and Pianos! Pianos are 4 models above the Overtures! Remember that Overtures are only rated for singles (55 Support). The Chorus is the next step up - 70 support - rated for doubles. Concertos are next - 85 support - rated for triples and quads. Then, the Ice Fly - 90 support - rated for triples and quads. And finally, the Pianos - 95 support - also rated for triples and quads. You may do better with a Concerto or Ice Fly - or possibly even the Chorus, stepping up from Overtures. Depending on your height/weight and skating level. Pianos are probably not necessary for most skaters. Remember to discuss this with your coach and go to a reputable skate tech. Pianos really are not for everyone.
@ I mainly had pianos in mind for gradual improvement in jumps, the jumps are my main focus in skating, and wanted something I know can last me a while. Im abot 80kg Im not sure what that is in pounds. I have been told concertos would be better tho, thanks for your help
@@joelfernandez354 I would say ice flys may be a good in between option. But try them all on and talk with a good tech! Overtures were probably way under the level you needed!
what edea boots do you think would be right for me? my highest jump is either double salchow or toe loop but i’m not doing those at the moment and just trying to get my axel back since covid. thanks
It depends on so many things! For most people, the Concerto or Ice Fly is sufficient. Go and try on them at your Edea authorized dealer! The most important factor is that you like the way they feel! I have a video on the Concerto too: ua-cam.com/video/uu6-AS6_LPQ/v-deo.html
I’m getting either the Overture/Chorus ice-skate with attached rollers to learn turns and spins on smooth ground for hobby…Maybe using once every 2 weeks. With proper care, can it last a lifetime? If not how long will it last for me?
I’m not sure what you mean by rollers. Are you getting roller skates or ice skates. How long they will last depends on many things! Your height, weight, skating level, how hard you are on your boots, if they are ice skates blades will only last for so many sharpening. It’s best to ask your coach or tech what to expect. They are not likely to last a lifetime.
hi aimee ! i’m gonna start learning bunny hops/starting waltz jumps in a month or so and my coach is suggesting i get the choruses or even the ice flies, would this be appropriate? i currently have the mystiques but feel they lack support. i’m 5’2, 127 pounds
Your coach knows you and your skating best. Make sure you try them on with a Edea Authorized Retailer that knows how to shape them. Best of luck!
@ thanks for your response ! my coach also suggested the mk pros and the coro ace blades but am not so sure which ones to choose, do you have any insights on which could be better long term?
I personally prefer John Wilson blades, so I’d go with CA. But a professional tech can help you when you get fitted.
4:11 OMG I THOUGHT I WAS OVERBOOTING BUT I HAVE A KNEE INJURY AND CANT GET ENOUGH BEND
Have a conversion with your coach and discuss your options with your professional skate tech.
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Reach out to the brand reps. They are there to help you!
Thank you for the helpful information. I am an adult skater currently wearing SP-Teri Gold Medalist. I am looking into switching to Edea Chorus. I always have the problem of pitching forward and scratching on my toe picks when I skate backwards. Due to the slanted foot bed in the Edea, I am wondering if that would worsen my problem. I also have flat feet. Do you know if Edea carries orthotics specific for their boots? Or maybe more comfortable insoles?
You could be pitching forward (bending/breaking at the waist) because your current skates inhibit ankle/knee bend. Edea will provide more ankle flex. But, there will be an adjustment period, while you learn new technique. I went through this and it didn't take very long! My skating only got better because of the adjustments that I made to my technique! I'm reluctant to say if the Chorus is the right boot for you because adult skaters are generally heavier than children and youth. So, it's possible that as an adult (depending on your size and level) you would do better with Concerto or Ice Fly. As far as having flat feet, you would be able to add orthotics to Edea - just like you would with any other boot. The best thing to do is to visit an Edea authorized skate tech. Talk your coach and ask them where to go near you.
Thanks for the advice and information. I am thinking to switch to the Chorus because I am petite (5 feet, 89 pounds), I do single jumps and skate 3 hours a week. My only concern is I saw that the tongue of the Chorus is somewhat thin compared to my current SP-Teri so I wonder if it would support the ankle well. The skate shop at my rink only has Superfeet for orthotics. I tried that but my feet felt more painful when I skate than using the original flat insoles. I probably have to try different insoles and see which ones work.
All the support in Edeas comes from the sides, so it supports you laterally. This is a big difference and IMO the biggest advantage to Edeas over traditional skates. I have a bionic ankle because I shattered it 6 years ago in Riedells. I switched to Edea after struggling to get enough bend from traditional leather skates and I have never looked back! You can cut any insole to fit an an Edea (or any skate for that matter). If there is one that you like best, just trim the sides of it! However, if you truly have flat feet, go to an orthopedist and get custom orthotics - many skaters do this! Is there somewhere else you can go rather than just the skate shop at your rink? Remember, proximity is not an indication of a quality shop. A good fitter may have relationships with orthopedists or have advice for you when it comes to your arch.
Yes, I will have to look for a good skate tech. I will ask around other skaters when I get back to the rink this weekend. It's nice you have a great experience after switching to Edea. I am looking forward for positive changes too! It's amazing how switching skates can sometimes make a big difference. My adult skater friend switched to Aura and was able to do things she could never do before. I have customed orthotics for my regular shoes from a podiatrist but they won't fit in my skates. I currently wear Dr. Scholls insoles and they actually feel comfortable. When I switch to Edea I will see how my feet feel since it's different from the traditional skates.
Keep me posted!
Just out of curiosity what jumps/spins are you doing? -so that i can get an idea of what level skater you were in your experience with pianos, also how long have your pianos lasted?
Im going to be getting new skates soon and ive been going between icefly and piano - piano felt like it hugged my ankle better than the ice fly but at the same time, you saying that you werent able to be in the piano for a long period concerned me a litttllee bit aha
At the time a got my Pianos, I was only doing single jumps but wanted more support, especially due to a severe ankle injury. I got them in 2019 and still have my Pianos but rarely wear them as I retired from competing in 2020. I now spend most of my time in Concertos as coaching is my main focus.
They are very supportive! That can make it challenging to wear them for hours at a time such as in coaching environment. These days, I prefer my Concertos because the Piano level of support is not necessary for coaching.
Hi, I'm considering getting edea skates in the near future. I'm really only looking for high quality boots that will last me a long time. I don't consider myself a beginner, but I don't see myself ever being a professional. By that I mean I will most likely never get to single jumps. I used to be in a figure skating club, but after some time they kicked me out for being too old (I was 12) , so now I just skate for fun with a little spinning here and there. I'm 5'4 and around 130 pounds. My current skates are riedell Diamond. They are fine, but there's a lot that I don't like about them. Their stiffness is 40 (on the riedell scale), so I'm definitely looking for more support. I've looked into the overture, but people say they brake down easily. Do you have any sugestions on which skates I should buy?
I'm sorry, your club kicked you out for your age??? Is it a US Figure Skating sanctioned club? I would let them know and find another club! You should get fitted by a pro and try on different things. Reidell Diamonds are stiffer than than are rated for because of the materials that they are made of - it can make it difficult to bend!
@ thank you!! I am not from the states and there aren't many people willing to train older people here.
My skates are indeed very hard to bend, that's mainly why I wanted to get new skates. Thank you so much for your answer again!
@@raptorchild9344 You're welcome! Yes, Diamonds are difficult to bend! I'm glad that I could help!
Would you recommend buying secondhand ice fly boots? I’m an adult who is only learning singles and about 20 pounds overweight so I don’t know if they will work for me if they are already broken
It depends on the condition of the boot and if they fit you correctly. Before buying have the condition checked by your trusted skate tech. Also have them check the fit and make sure that blades can be mounted to them. You can sometimes run into issues with used boots where there are too many drill holes to mount new blades to them. If they come WITH the blades (which is unusual) also ask the tech to check them out too and make sure that they still have significant life left on them!
hi, my coach recommended either Edea ifly or concerto.. i am an adult skater and i have completed all my single jumps alr and will soon be going into axel.. what do you think?
Honestly, you could go with either one so try them on with an authorized tech. I have a video coming up on the Concerto too - should be this week!
I just posted the video on the Concerto: ua-cam.com/video/uu6-AS6_LPQ/v-deo.html
Hi! I love your videos! I’d love to see a video on Concertos. I could probably make one, actually, LOL. I had Riedells that never fit me right, then I got Concertos but they hurt at first too so I got Ice Flys and I loved them but they broke down in one year. Very disappointing. I wondered if it was one of the “US knock-offs” I’d heard rumors about. I bought them through a reputable dealer from US skates. I then was either going to get pianos or try Risports. I went with the risport RF1 elite and they were very painful and felt completely different than edeas. I am currently trying to sell them if anyone is interested! So then I went back to wearing my Concerto’s and they are more comfortable after I heat molded them with a hairdryer myself. After a few months they are starting to feel like they are breaking down as well. Thank you for your advice on changing out laces. I will definitely change out my laces every time I get my skates sharpened now which is about every four weeks. I am an adult skater about 140 pounds and I do a lot of single jumps. I am thinking about trying the piano next. I hope it lasts me longer than one season. If it does not then I will probably stick with the ice fly if I have to get new skates every season. Thank you for your advice and I look forward to a video on concertos if you choose to do one. Feel free to contact me if you’d like more information on the concerto as well since I have experience skating in them. 💗😊
Thank you, Jessica! I haven't heard about US knock-offs of Edea. I recently discovered that Edea has 2 new skates that are not yet available in the US: The Verve (between Chorus and Concerto/Ice Fly) and Master for Coaches. I'm trying to find out more details! More videos to come. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I just posted the video on the Concerto: ua-cam.com/video/uu6-AS6_LPQ/v-deo.html
hey, I'm a 19 year old skater and I'm 5'8 and 110 pounds and I just went on my second skate after a 1.5 year break.
I'm currently wearing Riedell Emeralds as I am still working on basic skills.
I'm currently on Basic 5/6ish, so I started looking into new skates as I expect to "finish" Basic skills soon and working on Moves in the Field & Freeskate.
I have the problem that I feel like I need to re-tie my skates all the time, and I don't know if that's because my skates have become broken down or if I simply need to replace the laces (they look pretty worn down honestly).
Also sometimes I am doing Waltz Jumps but...honestly it feels like my ankles are wobbling left to right a bit while landing. So I stopped doing those because it just felt like it will end with injury.
The outside of the boot around my ankles still feels pretty stiff though when I push it.
So, first of all I wanted to ask if you think replacing the laces would make any difference? Should I wait with replacing my boots and would that even make a difference? Do you think Edea Chorus would be an appropriate boot, as I am tall but pretty light ?
Also, I don't quite understand the difference between 7ft and 8ft rockers on blades. Are there advantages/disadvantages of either of those?
And finally, after doing a Forward outside three turn, I always land on a very tight (?) back inside edge, like it's making a very tight curve almost a circle. I mean if I just hold that back inside Edge for 3 seconds or so. Is this weird? I really tried fixing that tight circle after 3 turn but it just doesn't seem to change for me.
And sorry for so many questions, I don't have a coach because I live in Germany and there are barely any coaches here and if there are, they are completely booked out...I don't really have a possibility to ask anyone else😔 also sorry if my language sounds weird, english is my 3rd language 😅
Your English is very good! You can try to replace the laces first - that's fairly inexpensive to do and they should be replaced fairly regularly. Most of us don't do it enough! That said, Emeralds not intended for jumping unless you're very small! I would go and get fitted and try on different boots - you can try the Chorus and the Concerto and see what they feel like. The Concerto will last you longer! I have a video coming soon on blades - mostly it's a very personal preference thing. But, going from the Emerald, I would suggest the John Wilson Coronation Ace as your next step. There has to be someone at the rink that you can check with?
@ Thanks! :) I'll try replacing the laces first in that case.
Not sure if there is someone at the rink I can check with, because the coaches aren't usually there during the normal open hours.
But there is a skate pro shop in another city, so I think I could ask them for advice and get fitted there.
By the way your videos are great!! Especially the ones where you show the moves in the field tests of your students and comment on it, it's super helpful 😊
@@makkachin9614 Before you go to a shop, it's generally best to ask someone if it's the best place to go. Can you send the skating director an email? I'm so glad that you like my videos! They take longer than you would think to make them, so it's nice to know that they helpful to you!
I am 15 working currently learning the single loop jump i skate 4-5 times a week, would it be ok for me to get ice flys?
I have a whole separate video about how to select skates for teens & adults: ua-cam.com/video/DB0hlPMYkbg/v-deo.html
Hi! I’m going into my axel and double jumps, I’m 5’7” ish and roughly 130 pounds I was wondering which would work better for me. I need more support in my ankles due to an injury and I’ve tried pianos on and liked how they felt. I have never tried Ice fly’s but it’s what my coach has recommended to me. Do you have any recommendations on which I should go with?
What are you wearing now? Go to a tech that is an authorized retailer and try them both on. Also try the Concerto. I really like the Concerto! My video review is here: ua-cam.com/video/uu6-AS6_LPQ/v-deo.html
@ I’m wearing Jackson freestyles which does not hold my support at all. There are sadly not a lot of dealers near me and I don’t travel so it’s extremely hard to get fittings and try ons, etc
@@lexiefranson5634 It's so worth it to get fitted because you will also likely have to have whatever boots you purchase shaped for your feet and you will need to go to a deal then too. Not to mention, you need to go a good tech to have them sharpened after every 20 hours or so. It's way too much money to spend to not try them first and not have the service to go with it. Even with Jacksons, you need to have most of the boots heat molded for fitting or the strength rating will not be what's intended. Where are you located?
@ super small town in BC Canada called Invermere
@@lexiefranson5634 Reach out to Skates US and ask them if there are any certified retailers near you: info@skatesus.com
hello! do you think edea chorus would be appropriate for an adult skater finishing off lutz/has other single jumps, and is going into axels? Im not too happy with Jackson and I tried Riedel in the veryyy beginning but I had plenty of foot issues. My coach doesnt have much of an opinion as shes a "whatever works for you", so Id love an opinion! my current Jacksons are the fusion debuts, but def need that boot/blade upgrade 💀
Unfortunately, no I don't feel that Edea Chorus are appropriate for an adult at your level. You should consider the Concerto at the minimum as well as Ice Fly. But, definitely go to a reputable authorized Edea dealer!
@ overture as minimal? You saying chorus is not enough t😂
Chorus is not very supportive. I know the price tag is attractive. But, they will breakdown quickly! As an adult, look for something that will last you for years! Your foot isn’t growing.
No, I said Concerto as minimal. Here's the video: ua-cam.com/video/uu6-AS6_LPQ/v-deo.html
Here is the video on the Concerto: ua-cam.com/video/uu6-AS6_LPQ/v-deo.html
Can adults (170 lbs) overboot in other brands like Jackson? Or might it make sense to go a little stiffer for now, but where we expect to be in maybe 9 months time? I skate about 2 hours/week.
Yes, you can overboot in traditional skates. It’s best to discuss your options with your coach and professional skate tech to figure out what is best for you.
I skated for over a decade competitively till 18, and now 27. I am trying to get back in for adult , and to rebuild my skill. I am not sure what version to go for, since I am rebuilding my skill. I don't want to go to little or to much. Any advice? I still skate with my Harlicks, and Pattern 99, I am not sure what is comparable now.
I really suggest that you go and get fitted by a reputable tech and try on multiple options!
@ Thank you so much. I did setup for an in-person tech per-your recommendation. I absolutely don't wanna mess this up, all these years apart, I am still very, very picky as all skaters are haha thank you
You're very welcome!
How long do Ice Flys usually last? I'm thinking about getting them, but I want to make sure that the time they last is worth the investment. I'm currently using Jackson Mystiques, but they're way under my level, I'm already working on single jumps. I was thinking about switching to Overtures, but everyone has been telling me that I could use Ice Flys because of my height (I'm 5'8, 147 lbs). Should I invest in Ice Flys?
Competitive skaters typically replace their Ice Fly boots once a season. But, it really depends on how you skate and your preferences. I'm 5'4 and 135 lbs. I have had my Ice Fly boots since 2016. HOWEVER, I only wore them for my own skating for 2 years and I only do single jumps. I got my Pianos in December of 2018 and use have used them exclusively for my own skating. I retired the Ice Flys and now use them only for coaching because I need less support and often have to get down on the ice with young skaters. BUT, I now need a new blade and my Ice Flys are very broken down - SO, I'm getting Concertos next week. Because I need something comfortable for coaching in. You may want to wait and look for my video coming up!
@ All right, thank you very much!
Here's the video on the Concertos: ua-cam.com/video/uu6-AS6_LPQ/v-deo.html
Would you suggest Edea piano for adult skaters? I’m almost have my axel and learning doubles
It depends on many factors. Ultimately though, IMO, I feel that very few skaters actually need Pianos. Concerto and Ice Fly are sufficient. Actually Concerto is deceiving supportive because of the leather tongue it feels stronger than Ice Fly! It's best to discuss with your coach and authorized Edea tech.
@ I didn’t like the padding in the Concerto, it almost felt slippery. I’m not sure how to describe it.
The pianos are at a close out sale. This is mainly why I am considering them. I’d save 300 if I bought them over the ice flies and I noticed they felt similarly so…
While that makes sense on paper, keep in mind that they are really, really stiff! I know several adult skaters that got them and went back to their old skates. Make sure you will be comfortable in them and they fit you (length and width) properly ;)
Where did you get the inserts you use in your ice flys?
I ordered them from Amazon. There's a link in the description, but here it is directly: amzn.to/3gtMofo
I am worried about over booting...I am currently in a Jackson Dj5200 and they haven’t been comfortable since day two when I noticed slippage in my right heel (and now have a bone spur as a result of three years fighting with these).
I am looking at moving to an Edea ice fly or piano, yet I don’t want to over boot. I am currently landing up to double lutz and double/doubles (at 42) and working on double axels and triple sals. I like the option of the shock absorption in the pianos, but don’t want to over boot like a did with Harlicks when I was in my teens going from a high tester to a finalist (the finalists were just too much and I couldn’t really break them in properly). Thoughts?
You cannot overboot with Edea . That said, the Pianos are very stiff and it sounds as if the Ice Fly may be more appropriate for you. But, you should really go for a fitting with an Edea authorized tech and speak with your coach before buying anything.
@ thank you! We are stuck on the island (Vancouver Island) and can’t go to Vancouver now with covid restrictions, but when lifted. I will do that. Which club to you teach out of? Do you teach many adult skaters?
You're welcome! I'm in Northern New Jersey and primarily coach out of Aspen Ice Arena and Skylands Ice World. I also coach occasionally at Mennen Sports Arena. I'm a member of The Skating Club of New York and do work with several adult skaters! Let me know how it goes for you when you're able to get fitted 😀
I got the pianos but there to tight on both foot sides ... otherwise they fit good and i skate so much better with them but i live in germany and i cant find anything about anyskate tecks here.... especally edea.... after just 20 mins the pain in the front of my foot is almost unbarebel... i really need the reajusted but i dont know were to do it
The shop you purchased them from should be able to shape them for. But if not, contact Edea and ask them where you can go to get them shaped! edeaskates.com/en/contact-us/
Thank you so much for the quick response ... i will ask the shop hopefully they do!
They should! Only authorized dealers are permitted to sell Edeas and they are trained on how to shape them!
Did people call you Punky Brewster because you wore one Ice Fly and one Piano that day, like Punky Brewster wore two different shoes?💕
You know what: No one even noticed!
Hello I am a beginner adult figure skater I’m almost 20, I don’t have any budget restrictions so I wanted to know: should I invest into Overture, Chorus or maybe Ice Fly / Piano ? I plan to skate for a while and my height is 160cm for 154lbs 😊 I also noticed that for some exercises I have difficulties to really bend the knees to the maximum ! I have Jackson Mystics
I also wanted to know about blades, is it a good investment to « Overblade » or not ? For exemple, Is it possible to buy a gold seal to work on Single/double jumps or it is not worth it?
I have a video coming up on the Overture. I would suggest that you go to an Edea authorized shop and try them all on. Also, ask your coach too! I would lean toward Ice Fly or Concerto - you'll see a big difference over the Mystique! IMO the Piano is just not very comfortable and not worth it! As far as blades go. I skate on John Wilson Gold Seals - because the rocker helps with my spins - it doesn't have anything really to do with jumps - I only do singles. I opted for the Gold Seal over Pattern 99 because I like the cross cut toe pick. As an adult you can invest in higher end blades because you're not growing and the learning curve in switching blades is a big deal! It takes a while to get used to them. It will take a while too going from Mystiques to Edea. Just be patient and get used to the equipment!
@ thank you for your complete answer, I’ll wait for your overture video then ! By the way, Your advice for blades is very useful, because I’ve never been told that !! Recently, I saw a model of GS/P99 hybrid Parabolic blades, so maybe I’ll go for it it!
@@lanyijin You're welcome! "Overblading" isn't really a thing - it's honestly just a preference. I prefer John Wilson blades and even though I wish they were more affordable, I love Gold Seals - the rocker has helped me with my spins :)
Here is the Concerto video: ua-cam.com/video/uu6-AS6_LPQ/v-deo.html