Just to let you know Filmora mostly backed down. People who have lifetime licences will be honoured, if they paid for the upgrade they can choose a refund or a discounted FX package, and if they don't choose by a certain deadline they will just get the discounted FX package. Unfortunately they are looking at legal action against some of those who were spreading the word.
Since you included Cozy and Proton, you could have also mentioned Infomaniak - Fairly local to switzerland, and the free account is only available to people who have a phone number originating from some specific regions - but it also has a lot of good options and services like webmail and kmeet (for video meetings)
I installed Nextcloud after your video about it and I absolutely love it. I never really gave in to other cloud providers apart from sharing files with others, so the jump to having my pictures auto-sync to Nextcloud and then to my PC (on Linux) is amazing to me - combined with the calendar and task management. I don't need Google in my life (apart from UA-cam). I'm stilll getting used to the syncing part to have all my important files.
I'm a paid Proton user, but at the moment I wouldn't recommend Proton Drive. Currently, it doesn't have any desktop OS integration, so there is no way to access the files without downloading and uploading them via the web browser. Clients have been announced for Windows and macOS, but they have been quiet on the Linux front. It's a shame as it's a service I'd really like to use.
Don't, nextcloud is the buggiest of all open source products. It basically works for a solo user but anything above that is a mess. Especially if you need a colabora server.
If you are wondering what is stored by people who need a lot of server space. I use nextcloud and I have about 1 TB of data there. - 25 GB of photos (plus a few videos that I don't want to put in the videos folder) - about 100 MB of documents - almost 400 GB of music. Copies from my father's CDs, plus my [completely legally obtained] music, mostly in lossless formats - about 1 GB of wallpapers, a collection of paintings and other beautiful pictures - about 1 GB of materials related to electronics (books, schematic diagrams, datasheets, service manuals, etc.) - 170 GB of home video, mostly in DV format. I don't want to convert this to avoid quality loss - 300 GB of music videos and concerts that I like. There are some rare clips in the highest quality I could find Also on the same server (but not in the nextcloud) are stored backups from the parents' computers, recordings from surveillance cameras and videos from my UA-cam channel, just in case.
Protondrive would be sick if it had a desktop app so you could sync folders. I think this is coming, but I think they will focus on Windows/Mac first. It'll probably be years before we get the linux client :(
Oh man, you have no idea how many people are requesting a Linux desktop client for Proton Drive on social media! But they always dismiss the conversation with plain corporate responses. It's so sad.
True. It is not turned on by default but it can be set easily within the web configuration tool and it is very flexible for all sort of odd use cases people might have out there. It is really good! I have it on my NAS and it is just like having my own Dropbox!
@@RogerioPereiradaSilva77 I have tried syncthing off and on over the past 3 - 4 years, and I still find it wonky. I just ponied up and paid for ResilioSync. It just works without issue. Every now and then, some things are worth paying for.
I have a Dropbox Plus account for many years, 10€/month for 2TB and I'm very satisfied with it. I'm a music producer for commercial media, so I carry all my audio sample libraries, client work, session files etc. on all my devices, hence the need for bigger storage sizes. However, I would have liked to switch to Proton Drive at some point and benefit from the Proton line of products as well, but 500GB is too little for me unfortunately.
Great video. NextCloud user here - since you pointed it out first time long time ago, I tried it and got hooked up. Self hosted at home, works like a charm with VPN connection from anywhere. And now with the recognize function in photos...
I love Synching!!! It's absolutely amazing and I've been using it with my android and PCs. I also set it up for my wife and it's been working flawlessly for many years to sync her documents folders and pictures. I have it syncing to my Synology and my computers. Pretty nice personal cloud setup.
The Mega free plan gives you 20 GB, which I believe is the most. It also has native Linux clients for CLI and Desktop. I use the CLI client to backup some stuff from my file server.
@@davidson1464 The current plan is 20. You can get more if you sign up for "Achievements", like installing the mobile app, but that extra space is only good for 1 year.
The BEST solution is Synchthing or Resilio Sync(more powerful but not free) in combination with a NAS and a Raspberry PI. The Raspberry PI runs all the time and syncs all the data that has to be updated in real time and the NAS is the cold storage you turn on just once a month or if you need something to automatically back up everything with it.
for me the most important was syncing files so I'm using syncthing, I was using nextcloud but its so slow that It was too annyoying. Syncthing is way much faster but of course its only for syncing files. As long as I'm using my own self hosted server I'm using it as my main syncthing server for storing files. Works great
I've used Nextcloud on my own server and I didn't notice any issues with speed. In large part, I think it just depends on the server specs and network bandwidth you have available. Syncthing isn't actually hosted so its performance depends on the computers syncing.
@@realhumanist71 One thing that makes Syncthing better than a server based solution is that it is peer-to-peer with the benefits that come with it. IE, I have a folder that I share on my main rig, my laptop, my work laptop, and a low-powered server on my local network that is always on. I drop a new file into that folder on my laptop and it has to sync it to the other machines once. Because they are peer-to-peer they share any segment of that file they have with the other machines. With a server-based solution the local machine syncs to the server, and the server syncs to each client machine resulting in the file being transferred multiple times. With that in mind it is easy to see how if one has several computers they are keeping in sync that Syncthing can be faster than a server-based solution like Nextcloud. On the other hand, if one is only syncing between 1-2 machines, the difference might not be as noticeable.
Thanks to you, I truly enjoyed the process of learning about WHICH Linux distro to use on my mid-2011 Mac Mini. I stopped being afraid of TRYING all kinds of different distros; that’s the way I learned. I liked FORCING Elementary OS to host my LibreOffice, lol! I hope you have a happy 2023; I look forward to enjoying 2023 watching your interesting and fun videos! BTW…I self-host my “cloud”; that’s a challenge, lol!
If you own a NAS or a Raspberry Pi or something that is always-on, you can use it as a SyncThing server. So you get the best of both worlds, and don't need to keep all of your clients turned on.
I also do that but I use Resilio Sync instead of Synchthing because it has more features like selective sync and you see all synced devices and folders on all devices.
I'm using pCloud for a couple of years now. After trying for a year I've bought a lifetime 500GB and works fine. Speed could be better and MacOS client i much worse than Dropbox (you have to restart system each time client is updated which is insane) but price is much better (or at least was when I've bought it) than competitors. Linux client could be better than just a binary file (like some flatpack or deb) - but I guess I can live with that as long as it works.
I would love to see a walk through of how you set up you instance on linode and especially which of their products to pick when setting up that server. Mine is currently on a raspberry pi with 2tb of ssd and is working really well. But for ease of use and peace of mind I would like to transfer that to linode at some point.
I might be incorrect, but I thought Linode and Digital Ocean both had "one click" installs of Next Cloud. And I believe both have written tutorials on setting it up in their documentation. Edit : I just did a couple searches, and yes both have tutorials and their "marketplace" apps include NextCloud
@@javabeanz8549 Admittedly it has been some time since I looked it up, and I got confused somwhat by the different options and somewhat unclear prices. Could be it has become more clear since then, but that was my main reason for wanting to see it from someone who has already deployed a server there. But thanks for the heads up 🙂
@@IGqy I have not used NextCloud, but I have deployed servers on both Linode and Digital Ocean, been working for them for years. I have not deployed a new server on Linode recently, but I have on Digital Ocean, and the prices there were quite clear. As you select your options, the monthly and hourly costs are updated on the page as you configure your new server.
Personally I use mega free plan and I don't have problem with it I often juggle with dif platform and hardware, so its sync is a must, and it's relatively easy to set up. (I also don't have the option to self-host and don't have much money, so the hosting and free plan work for me)
Yeah, it still doesn't feel quite right for me, as it provides a massive storage compared to other companies. What does Mega do, that other companies can't, to provide this massive storage? But still, it really is a good service for storing files that are not sensitive. I mostly store my game save files and some wallpapers, and for that purpose, it's going fantastic. Just be careful about your local laws as a lot of people use Mega's storage size for piracy, so your regional government may not allow it.
@@aaronplays_ True. Well, Nick said that it has a kind of a shady past but nowadays I rarely hear anything bad about them. I have a lot of important files like college documents, marksheet and a lot of other stuff so it's better for me to store them in the cloud rather than on a pendrive. Not to mention the fact that I did many important files a month ago.
I use UA-cam as my own Google Drive. How I do it is upload my vids and set it to private and if I want the file, I convert the url to MP4 and download so that way I have unlimited storage.
UA-cam will probably not notify me your answer but... is it good? When it was released, it was AMAZING, but once my free trial with 50GBs expired, it just... froze. And I don't mean on the sense dropbox does, I mean, even after I cleared my folder on the desktop, it refused to sync back with the service to tell me I did exactly what they did me to do if I ran out of space lol It was really unfortunate.
I personally don't use cloud storage for daily use. I use it purely for backup/disaster recovery. I have a nextcloud instance, but I don't connect it to the public internet for security reasons, so it's not truly a cloud server, just a home network server.
Interesting way to go. The only downside would be the limited storage of the phone so you would only use it for as many files you need and have storage for.
I rely on SyncThing to keep my photos synced from my phone to my Debian desktop. When I take a picture, it ends up at home. If I delete it from my phone - I have it set to stay on the server. Easy, permanent backup.
i made my mega account back when It offered 50gb free storage and still retains it till this. though i rarely use it due to bad internet in my country im really glad it still contains my entire Archive of Tom and Jerry Episodes
I also made a Mega account back then. It's been so long since they downgraded the storage max that I sometimes wonder if I dreamed it because unfortunately I have forgotten the old credentials I used.
Why was Synology Drive left out? It is by far the most user friendly self-hosted solution than all the other self-hosted storage software listed here. Synology Drive like Google Drive, integrates well with all Synology Apps and feels like a complete suite of applications.
I agree. I kept waiting for a Synology mention. It does have a startup cost since you need to buy the Synology NAS hardware to run the Synology DSM software. However, it is easy to set up, they've been around for a very long time, and the data is 100% under your own control (your data + your hardware.)
Hello, with Drive suite I have - Real good email - Excellent online office suite - Automatic sync of Google Drive with my android devices and online/offline sync with my windows computer - 100gb of spaces for less than 2€/month (that is what I need, more is not useful for me) - Automatic sync of all my photos on Google Photo, sharing the space - Simple share of each thing with my friends, if needed - Shared calendar Do you have any alternative that has all this options with the same price? Because one of the big reasons why I can't use linux as my main system is this one. And obviously I don't want spend 10 times more to have the same or worst service. Thank you
200GB is nowhere near enough for a photographer or videographer. RAW images and footage takes up an absolutely insane amount of space. Offline backups are best but if you want cloud then at least 1TB is needed.
I have a managed NextCloud instance. Everything for backup is encrypted and synced by rclone to a separate user account. The daily business account syncs only the newest filed before I delete them or put them into the backup location
Pleeeeeeeease don't recommend people move to Proton Drive just yet, it's really really rough at the moment and just a web interface and two mobile apps; there's no desktop sync program, let alone a selective cloud file sync function (only download files you want or on-demand) or API for integration in other apps yet. They _do_ have most of that on the roadmap, but it's still not here and Proton is a bit in the slow side of iterating. That being said, _when_ they get those features fleshed out, it will be a solid option for ex-Drive users.
Lots of MEGA namedropping. I was one of those early adopters with the 50GB free plan & at one point one of the local ISPs teamed up with them to give you 200GB as long as you were a customer. I don’t use it as much as I used to; it’s a simple way to get photos off your phone in a pinch, but that’s the extent of its usage nowadays.
4:23 SyncThing not having file sharing with others? In a narrow sense that's not true. You can add a SyncThing instance that's running on a friend's computer and then sync files from one of your shared folders to your friends' folder, or vice versa. Did it before. Works as one would expect. You just need to forward ports. edit: ...unless you mean public file sharing like a google drive type of thing. That's not possible iirc.
My amateur setup: old laptop running Nextcloud locally, then every midnight restic script encrypts a local copy of /var/snap/nextcloud, then rclone script uploads the encrypted restic folder to my Backblaze bucket. I still use Google Photos for images. I also have not yet configured my Nextcloud for external access. Thoughts?
13:08 what is a VPS and how is this worked into a home server? A home server needs a permanent ISP connection. A home server needs reliable hardware. A home computer often needs reinstall, typically losing all files (timeshift et al is a mess around). I like your home VPS suggestions, however I would need reliable hardware and an Internet connection I can totally disconnect (like a mobile phone hotspot).
Great video! However, I'd like to note that Apple's iCloud Drive is now End-to-End Encrypted, as long as you activate Advanced Data Protection in your iCloud settings. This made me change my mind about moving away from Apple.
I use proton mail for my private domain and email address. When sending a mail with password "protection" you can answer on it password proteced. Which many other services for MS and etc dont do.
I personally use IceDrive. It doesn't have integrated document editor, speed can be slow at times, ui can be somewhat janky, but it has client side encryption, a desktop client, very competitive price (150gb for 20 dollars/year or 99 lifetime), it does everything I need as a digital artist. carries over pictures, project files, cheap, that's all I need. I don't need 500gb or tb's of storage, or many of the integrations. icedrive is more than good enough for me while being affordable
I never really got this syncing stuff. Doesn't it just make more sense to make a symlink to \\PC1\c$\Users\Somebody\Documents (or whatever it might be)? My main usage of cloud storage is to host large files (stuff that github pages can't do). Dropbox seems perfect for this considering that (due to the storage limit only properly affecting sync) it's essentially free unlimited storage/hosting!
I love syncthing/syncthing-fork and is great way of syncing files around. Also I just call Mac OS, Darwin. Nextcloud is my main privately hosted cloud storage with S3 being my bulk storage as I keep a little under 250Tb and no one else has that much storage as a cloud storage provider that I know of. I am curious of something, is there anything open source that works like how google wave worked?
My cloudy needs are really simple, so I just bought a Synology NAS... 12 years ago? It's been solid and they still support it (although this version of the OS will be the last one I can have, which is fair enough). They have nice and simple apps, and the server works fine as a traditional file server as well.
I don't know but since iCloud got E2EE I kinda lost interest in other alternatives, though I do understand that this would only work as a full Apple User. My emails/calendar are elsewhere, so everything else is E2EE. Especially iCloud Photos.. you get all the smart features (face grouping, categories, etc.) while it's still E2EE...
Does nextcloud have a good E2E implementation? That plugin hasn't been in development for a long time. I'd self or pay for it if E2E works well! Thanks for the video!
@TheLinuxEXP Thanks Nick for all your inspiration in the world of Linux. 'Cause I'm forced to use OneDrive for education Cloud-storage, I'm searching for a Client to get access to the cloud-files. What can you recommend that for?
Is Cloud Storage really unavoidable? I myself have never found any use for it. Ok, you might call me old-fashioned, but that's all right. I prefer it to being called simply "old", which would be pretty correct also.
When I was a student and content creator: absolutely. I could not risk losing my entire thesis or content saved on my PC if it got stolen or died on me.
@@mentalmarvin We are of kindred spirits and believe in the old backup rule: If it's important - back it up, if it's very important - back it up twice, and if it's very, very, important - back it up three times with the third located off-site.
question: can proton drive be configured to integrate with my laptop file explorer the same way Nextcloud can? I have a Windows machine and am looking to replace OneDrive. I suspect what I want is (currently) not possible but I am still very new to this
Hi! Can you please tell me which one is easier to use? And most important im looking for upload folders,for example I want to upload my music but not as files,but as folder's, cause i have made folders with different kinds of music,so I don't want to upload my music file's as bulk but as folder's!! And im looking for something as much simple to use, cause i have tried Google drive,and i don't know how to upload my sms or contact's, and i couldn't find a way to upload folders, only to make folders and then upload the files inside them .
Here is my question. Can I back up my Android phone to an alternative cloud? The import things to me are the contacts (phone) list, SMS messages and the apps in use. Photos I'm not worried about and the email I can figure out later.
I've been heavily looking into this the past few days not being happy with google drive third party apps on Linux, so you get a like from me... But man do i dislike those rounded window corners! To each their own though :) *Edit* One of the things that bothers me about this is they don't actually look anti-ailised. What DE is this? KDE?
Recommendation of syncthing must be muscle memory. One asks for cloud storage solutions supporting file versioning and native iOS clients with sharing options and there is ALWAYS that one guy recommending syncthing.
Synchthing est absolument génial une fois configuré, histoire d’éviter des pertes de données accidentelles. J’utilise ça depuis des mois pour synchroniser mes cours principalement entre le portable et la tour une fois chez moi, je n’ai enfin plus besoin de ces clés usb que j’oubliais une fois sur 3
You can have your choice of data storage. You shouldn’t add hard drive as storage options it may cost a lot.. you could rather chose block storage from other providers and then link it next cloud
No matter how much we techies dance around cloud technologies, there is absolutely no alternative available to iCloud. Its seamless integration with iOS and Apple devices, backups and restores with iCloud account pretty much makes other cloud providers bite the dust.
I just saw in your video that your video files (on Nextcloud) are not showing a thumbnail too? I have the same issue - I was told this is due to being a Snap installation, and there is nothing that can be done?
Anyone knows a service that allows keeping my linux settings on the cloud? Or locally? Like an android account. Might be a stupid idea as I delete my home when reinstalling to clean the configuration files.
You are exactly looking for gnu stow, which help you to store all of your config in one folder and symlink them properly To the correct location You then store that folder anywhere (github/gitlab is better),though google drive also works😆 but catch is it's a bad idea to backup configs for big desktop environments like gnome and kde, as they configured in gui, and could breaks in updates, still you can use gnu stow to store you vim configs :)
@@vaisakh_km nice, had a look just now. I just hate that 1 application stores stuff in so many different directories... .config .local etc. Anyway, I keep my docs etc separate and I am all good. Reinstalling is so easy these days. Fresh installs are nice too
Could you possibly do a tutorial as to how to install docker portainer and nextcloud by any chance? Thank you if you do and even if you don’t thank you for this video. It’s really nice and Informative
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NextCloud? Disons pour 200Go?
Just to let you know Filmora mostly backed down. People who have lifetime licences will be honoured, if they paid for the upgrade they can choose a refund or a discounted FX package, and if they don't choose by a certain deadline they will just get the discounted FX package. Unfortunately they are looking at legal action against some of those who were spreading the word.
Since you included Cozy and Proton, you could have also mentioned Infomaniak - Fairly local to switzerland, and the free account is only available to people who have a phone number originating from some specific regions - but it also has a lot of good options and services like webmail and kmeet (for video meetings)
Just spun up a server for moodle (with your code) via linnode a few days ago, works great!
Someone had fun with the text pop ups in this vid 😂😂😂
I installed Nextcloud after your video about it and I absolutely love it. I never really gave in to other cloud providers apart from sharing files with others, so the jump to having my pictures auto-sync to Nextcloud and then to my PC (on Linux) is amazing to me - combined with the calendar and task management. I don't need Google in my life (apart from UA-cam). I'm stilll getting used to the syncing part to have all my important files.
Fr nextcloud is sick
I'm a paid Proton user, but at the moment I wouldn't recommend Proton Drive. Currently, it doesn't have any desktop OS integration, so there is no way to access the files without downloading and uploading them via the web browser. Clients have been announced for Windows and macOS, but they have been quiet on the Linux front. It's a shame as it's a service I'd really like to use.
My main concern is that setting up a nextcloud instance myself becomes insecure if I make a mistake
The Nextcloud website has a page where you can enter your URL and it checks your setup.
Just keep it on your local network and then setup a VPN to your network 👍
Don't, nextcloud is the buggiest of all open source products. It basically works for a solo user but anything above that is a mess. Especially if you need a colabora server.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 no, I'm literally the guy who has to clean up the mess for big enterprises.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 have you ever tried NextCloud in a 8000+ user environment? No? Then just move along little kid.
If you are wondering what is stored by people who need a lot of server space. I use nextcloud and I have about 1 TB of data there.
- 25 GB of photos (plus a few videos that I don't want to put in the videos folder)
- about 100 MB of documents
- almost 400 GB of music. Copies from my father's CDs, plus my [completely legally obtained] music, mostly in lossless formats
- about 1 GB of wallpapers, a collection of paintings and other beautiful pictures
- about 1 GB of materials related to electronics (books, schematic diagrams, datasheets, service manuals, etc.)
- 170 GB of home video, mostly in DV format. I don't want to convert this to avoid quality loss
- 300 GB of music videos and concerts that I like. There are some rare clips in the highest quality I could find
Also on the same server (but not in the nextcloud) are stored backups from the parents' computers, recordings from surveillance cameras and videos from my UA-cam channel, just in case.
Protondrive would be sick if it had a desktop app so you could sync folders. I think this is coming, but I think they will focus on Windows/Mac first. It'll probably be years before we get the linux client :(
That’s why I use Mega
Oh man, you have no idea how many people are requesting a Linux desktop client for Proton Drive on social media! But they always dismiss the conversation with plain corporate responses. It's so sad.
@@altrogeruvah it’s insane
@@mainStream-user yeah
You can use ElectronMail as an unofficial client for that!
4:31 - Minor correction on not having a copy with syncthing.
It does have configurations for file versioning.
True. It is not turned on by default but it can be set easily within the web configuration tool and it is very flexible for all sort of odd use cases people might have out there. It is really good! I have it on my NAS and it is just like having my own Dropbox!
@@RogerioPereiradaSilva77 I have tried syncthing off and on over the past 3 - 4 years, and I still find it wonky. I just ponied up and paid for ResilioSync. It just works without issue. Every now and then, some things are worth paying for.
I have a Dropbox Plus account for many years, 10€/month for 2TB and I'm very satisfied with it. I'm a music producer for commercial media, so I carry all my audio sample libraries, client work, session files etc. on all my devices, hence the need for bigger storage sizes. However, I would have liked to switch to Proton Drive at some point and benefit from the Proton line of products as well, but 500GB is too little for me unfortunately.
So how if you work in rural area?
Is the cloud still usable??
Thanks for comment good to see positive review i just bought 2tb subscription
Great video. NextCloud user here - since you pointed it out first time long time ago, I tried it and got hooked up. Self hosted at home, works like a charm with VPN connection from anywhere. And now with the recognize function in photos...
Damn his whole life is 60GB. Just one video I took hiking the other week in 4K was 9GB.
I love Synching!!! It's absolutely amazing and I've been using it with my android and PCs. I also set it up for my wife and it's been working flawlessly for many years to sync her documents folders and pictures.
I have it syncing to my Synology and my computers. Pretty nice personal cloud setup.
I agree! I'm using it on my synology too and love it!
The Mega free plan gives you 20 GB, which I believe is the most. It also has native Linux clients for CLI and Desktop. I use the CLI client to backup some stuff from my file server.
Their Linux desktop client is great too. Been using the paid plan for a couple of years on several distros without any troubles.
For new user, old user got 50.
I have 25GB of space and some users have 50GB, 20GB it's not the limit
@@davidson1464 The current plan is 20. You can get more if you sign up for "Achievements", like installing the mobile app, but that extra space is only good for 1 year.
The BEST solution is Synchthing or Resilio Sync(more powerful but not free) in combination with a NAS and a Raspberry PI. The Raspberry PI runs all the time and syncs all the data that has to be updated in real time and the NAS is the cold storage you turn on just once a month or if you need something to automatically back up everything with it.
for me the most important was syncing files so I'm using syncthing, I was using nextcloud but its so slow that It was too annyoying. Syncthing is way much faster but of course its only for syncing files. As long as I'm using my own self hosted server I'm using it as my main syncthing server for storing files. Works great
I've used Nextcloud on my own server and I didn't notice any issues with speed. In large part, I think it just depends on the server specs and network bandwidth you have available. Syncthing isn't actually hosted so its performance depends on the computers syncing.
@@realhumanist71 One thing that makes Syncthing better than a server based solution is that it is peer-to-peer with the benefits that come with it. IE, I have a folder that I share on my main rig, my laptop, my work laptop, and a low-powered server on my local network that is always on. I drop a new file into that folder on my laptop and it has to sync it to the other machines once. Because they are peer-to-peer they share any segment of that file they have with the other machines. With a server-based solution the local machine syncs to the server, and the server syncs to each client machine resulting in the file being transferred multiple times.
With that in mind it is easy to see how if one has several computers they are keeping in sync that Syncthing can be faster than a server-based solution like Nextcloud. On the other hand, if one is only syncing between 1-2 machines, the difference might not be as noticeable.
Thanks to you, I truly enjoyed the process of learning about WHICH Linux distro to use on my mid-2011 Mac Mini. I stopped being afraid of TRYING all kinds of different distros; that’s the way I learned. I liked FORCING Elementary OS to host my LibreOffice, lol! I hope you have a happy 2023; I look forward to enjoying 2023 watching your interesting and fun videos! BTW…I self-host my “cloud”; that’s a challenge, lol!
If you own a NAS or a Raspberry Pi or something that is always-on, you can use it as a SyncThing server. So you get the best of both worlds, and don't need to keep all of your clients turned on.
That's exactly what I do!
I also do that but I use Resilio Sync instead of Synchthing because it has more features like selective sync and you see all synced devices and folders on all devices.
I'm using pCloud for a couple of years now. After trying for a year I've bought a lifetime 500GB and works fine. Speed could be better and MacOS client i much worse than Dropbox (you have to restart system each time client is updated which is insane) but price is much better (or at least was when I've bought it) than competitors. Linux client could be better than just a binary file (like some flatpack or deb) - but I guess I can live with that as long as it works.
NextCloud:
2:30 Can you share a particular tag with selected people?
3:43 Libre Office? Joplin? Others?
Syncthing changed my life
Never going back to a cloud service again
Hey Nico I have to thank you a lot. You convinced me to use Fedora as a OS switching from Windows. So thank you. Fedora is the new Ubuntu
Why
Yeah, why?
I mean his Video that was titled that. Watch that Video it sums up my Decision
I would love to see a walk through of how you set up you instance on linode and especially which of their products to pick when setting up that server. Mine is currently on a raspberry pi with 2tb of ssd and is working really well. But for ease of use and peace of mind I would like to transfer that to linode at some point.
I would also be interested in this. Took a quick look at potential cost, but I have no idea what product to use..
I might be incorrect, but I thought Linode and Digital Ocean both had "one click" installs of Next Cloud. And I believe both have written tutorials on setting it up in their documentation.
Edit : I just did a couple searches, and yes both have tutorials and their "marketplace" apps include NextCloud
@@javabeanz8549 Admittedly it has been some time since I looked it up, and I got confused somwhat by the different options and somewhat unclear prices. Could be it has become more clear since then, but that was my main reason for wanting to see it from someone who has already deployed a server there. But thanks for the heads up 🙂
@@IGqy I have not used NextCloud, but I have deployed servers on both Linode and Digital Ocean, been working for them for years. I have not deployed a new server on Linode recently, but I have on Digital Ocean, and the prices there were quite clear. As you select your options, the monthly and hourly costs are updated on the page as you configure your new server.
@@javabeanz8549 I will have to take a look at it again 🤔
Personally I use mega free plan and I don't have problem with it
I often juggle with dif platform and hardware, so its sync is a must, and it's relatively easy to set up.
(I also don't have the option to self-host and don't have much money, so the hosting and free plan work for me)
Same, and I started my account back when the free plan was 50GB, which they're still honoring.
I got 50 GB for free like 4 years ago and they are keeping it, so that's cool.
As someone who uses MEGA. It is pretty good. Clean and fast even.
And i can confirm it is true
Yeah, it still doesn't feel quite right for me, as it provides a massive storage compared to other companies. What does Mega do, that other companies can't, to provide this massive storage? But still, it really is a good service for storing files that are not sensitive. I mostly store my game save files and some wallpapers, and for that purpose, it's going fantastic. Just be careful about your local laws as a lot of people use Mega's storage size for piracy, so your regional government may not allow it.
@@aaronplays_ True. Well, Nick said that it has a kind of a shady past but nowadays I rarely hear anything bad about them. I have a lot of important files like college documents, marksheet and a lot of other stuff so it's better for me to store them in the cloud rather than on a pendrive. Not to mention the fact that I did many important files a month ago.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 idk man. i'm just too lazy.
@@terrydaktyllus1320 idk man I'm just too poor
my cloud storage is a RAID array of WD Reds with an occasional offsite backup.
I use UA-cam as my own Google Drive. How I do it is upload my vids and set it to private and if I want the file, I convert the url to MP4 and download so that way I have unlimited storage.
I'm also using Cozy Cloud on Android and Linux Mint since several years. I feel better if my data is stored within the EU than in the US.
why should it matter? Aren't you encrypting it all anyways? Personally I tar up and then encrypt (with gpg) my files, then rsync them to cloud storage
@@MH_VOID I encrypt files in 7z format with AES 256-bit encryption with a long and strong password before uploading to cloud, is it safe?
Great solutions here, Nick. I am running MEGA at the moment 💪☺️
UA-cam will probably not notify me your answer but... is it good?
When it was released, it was AMAZING, but once my free trial with 50GBs expired, it just... froze. And I don't mean on the sense dropbox does, I mean, even after I cleared my folder on the desktop, it refused to sync back with the service to tell me I did exactly what they did me to do if I ran out of space lol
It was really unfortunate.
I personally don't use cloud storage for daily use. I use it purely for backup/disaster recovery. I have a nextcloud instance, but I don't connect it to the public internet for security reasons, so it's not truly a cloud server, just a home network server.
I use syncthing for syncing my Obsidian files. And since my PC & laptop are rarely online at the same time, I installed it on my phone. It works great
Interesting way to go. The only downside would be the limited storage of the phone so you would only use it for as many files you need and have storage for.
@@Deinorius Yeah but,,, how big will Obsidian files even be?
@@regretandtears I meant it in a general way, not just Obsidian. Should have been more specific.
I rely on SyncThing to keep my photos synced from my phone to my Debian desktop. When I take a picture, it ends up at home. If I delete it from my phone - I have it set to stay on the server. Easy, permanent backup.
i made my mega account back when It offered 50gb free storage and still retains it till this. though i rarely use it due to bad internet in my country im really glad it still contains my entire Archive of Tom and Jerry Episodes
I also made a Mega account back then. It's been so long since they downgraded the storage max that I sometimes wonder if I dreamed it because unfortunately I have forgotten the old credentials I used.
Many people (and you!) need several TB, if you do photography and videos. I have 14TB rn, growing.
self-hosting? how much work is that, keep it up to date and secure? You’re not worried of getting hacked? Must have darn good security skills..
Why was Synology Drive left out? It is by far the most user friendly self-hosted solution than all the other self-hosted storage software listed here. Synology Drive like Google Drive, integrates well with all Synology Apps and feels like a complete suite of applications.
Does it require a NAS or can you backup all disk drives?
I agree. I kept waiting for a Synology mention. It does have a startup cost since you need to buy the Synology NAS hardware to run the Synology DSM software. However, it is easy to set up, they've been around for a very long time, and the data is 100% under your own control (your data + your hardware.)
Hello, with Drive suite I have
- Real good email
- Excellent online office suite
- Automatic sync of Google Drive with my android devices and online/offline sync with my windows computer
- 100gb of spaces for less than 2€/month (that is what I need, more is not useful for me)
- Automatic sync of all my photos on Google Photo, sharing the space
- Simple share of each thing with my friends, if needed
- Shared calendar
Do you have any alternative that has all this options with the same price? Because one of the big reasons why I can't use linux as my main system is this one.
And obviously I don't want spend 10 times more to have the same or worst service.
Thank you
200GB is nowhere near enough for a photographer or videographer. RAW images and footage takes up an absolutely insane amount of space. Offline backups are best but if you want cloud then at least 1TB is needed.
Just a heads up, tuxedo computers dont ship to Australia
I have a managed NextCloud instance. Everything for backup is encrypted and synced by rclone to a separate user account. The daily business account syncs only the newest filed before I delete them or put them into the backup location
Pleeeeeeeease don't recommend people move to Proton Drive just yet, it's really really rough at the moment and just a web interface and two mobile apps; there's no desktop sync program, let alone a selective cloud file sync function (only download files you want or on-demand) or API for integration in other apps yet. They _do_ have most of that on the roadmap, but it's still not here and Proton is a bit in the slow side of iterating.
That being said, _when_ they get those features fleshed out, it will be a solid option for ex-Drive users.
Lots of MEGA namedropping. I was one of those early adopters with the 50GB free plan & at one point one of the local ISPs teamed up with them to give you 200GB as long as you were a customer.
I don’t use it as much as I used to; it’s a simple way to get photos off your phone in a pinch, but that’s the extent of its usage nowadays.
4:23 SyncThing not having file sharing with others? In a narrow sense that's not true. You can add a SyncThing instance that's running on a friend's computer and then sync files from one of your shared folders to your friends' folder, or vice versa. Did it before. Works as one would expect. You just need to forward ports.
edit: ...unless you mean public file sharing like a google drive type of thing. That's not possible iirc.
My amateur setup: old laptop running Nextcloud locally, then every midnight restic script encrypts a local copy of /var/snap/nextcloud, then rclone script uploads the encrypted restic folder to my Backblaze bucket. I still use Google Photos for images. I also have not yet configured my Nextcloud for external access. Thoughts?
13:08 what is a VPS and how is this worked into a home server?
A home server needs a permanent ISP connection.
A home server needs reliable hardware.
A home computer often needs reinstall, typically losing all files (timeshift et al is a mess around).
I like your home VPS suggestions, however I would need reliable hardware and an Internet connection I can totally disconnect (like a mobile phone hotspot).
Great video! However, I'd like to note that Apple's iCloud Drive is now End-to-End Encrypted, as long as you activate Advanced Data Protection in your iCloud settings.
This made me change my mind about moving away from Apple.
I use proton mail for my private domain and email address. When sending a mail with password "protection" you can answer on it password proteced. Which many other services for MS and etc dont do.
I personally use IceDrive. It doesn't have integrated document editor, speed can be slow at times, ui can be somewhat janky, but it has client side encryption, a desktop client, very competitive price (150gb for 20 dollars/year or 99 lifetime), it does everything I need as a digital artist. carries over pictures, project files, cheap, that's all I need. I don't need 500gb or tb's of storage, or many of the integrations. icedrive is more than good enough for me while being affordable
I never really got this syncing stuff. Doesn't it just make more sense to make a symlink to \\PC1\c$\Users\Somebody\Documents (or whatever it might be)? My main usage of cloud storage is to host large files (stuff that github pages can't do). Dropbox seems perfect for this considering that (due to the storage limit only properly affecting sync) it's essentially free unlimited storage/hosting!
Great video! I'll definitely check all of these out. Currently setting up a plex server since Netflix canceled password sharing.
Syncthing:
5:15 does it have to be all files, or can it be one folder?
I love syncthing/syncthing-fork and is great way of syncing files around. Also I just call Mac OS, Darwin. Nextcloud is my main privately hosted cloud storage with S3 being my bulk storage as I keep a little under 250Tb and no one else has that much storage as a cloud storage provider that I know of.
I am curious of something, is there anything open source that works like how google wave worked?
Wave went to Apache, which ended up retiring it in 2018. The code might still be out there.
@@javabeanz8549 Ooo thanks. I'll take another search
250 TB in S3? What's the cost per month? If you don't mind sharing
My cloudy needs are really simple, so I just bought a Synology NAS... 12 years ago? It's been solid and they still support it (although this version of the OS will be the last one I can have, which is fair enough). They have nice and simple apps, and the server works fine as a traditional file server as well.
I don't know but since iCloud got E2EE I kinda lost interest in other alternatives, though I do understand that this would only work as a full Apple User. My emails/calendar are elsewhere, so everything else is E2EE. Especially iCloud Photos.. you get all the smart features (face grouping, categories, etc.) while it's still E2EE...
Where is Filen Cloud in the list?
Does nextcloud have a good E2E implementation? That plugin hasn't been in development for a long time. I'd self or pay for it if E2E works well!
Thanks for the video!
@TheLinuxEXP Thanks Nick for all your inspiration in the world of Linux. 'Cause I'm forced to use OneDrive for education Cloud-storage, I'm searching for a Client to get access to the cloud-files. What can you recommend that for?
Is Cloud Storage really unavoidable? I myself have never found any use for it. Ok, you might call me old-fashioned, but that's all right. I prefer it to being called simply "old", which would be pretty correct also.
When I was a student and content creator: absolutely. I could not risk losing my entire thesis or content saved on my PC if it got stolen or died on me.
I am using cloud for years and it's really stable and fast. Loved it
I have a Synology server with 8 TB of storage, can I use it on nextcloud? If so, do I need to pay to use nextcloud in this case?
Several years ago pCloud offered a lifetime license which I took advantage of (500GB). Best decision I could have made.
Me too. had lifetime a few years, no complaints. Tho I keep extra backups at home
@@mentalmarvin We are of kindred spirits and believe in the old backup rule: If it's important - back it up, if it's very important - back it up twice, and if it's very, very, important - back it up three times with the third located off-site.
@@richardmonroe4208
No loss of data, no endless tears
With three backups strong, we have no fears
Agreed - pCloud lifetime is awesome!
They still have lifetime deals. I have the 2TB one, and I'm totally happy with it
I ran nextcloud on a raspberry pi 4 for years. I now run it on a old laptop running as a server.
Thanks for clarifying zoho doesn't support TempleOS! That earned you a subscriber.
i just use syncthing to get files to a bulky TB harddisk
Sync thing is great!
question: can proton drive be configured to integrate with my laptop file explorer the same way Nextcloud can? I have a Windows machine and am looking to replace OneDrive. I suspect what I want is (currently) not possible but I am still very new to this
Hi Nick! how about an up to date video with a detailed step by step to set up nextcloud+onlyoffice?
@The Linux Experiment: what do you think about Cryptomator for encryption of files on big platforms like Google Drive or Microsoft OneDrive?
I'm in the process if building a homelab server... what are the best sync options??
Hi! Can you please tell me which one is easier to use? And most important im looking for upload folders,for example I want to upload my music but not as files,but as folder's, cause i have made folders with different kinds of music,so I don't want to upload my music file's as bulk but as folder's!! And im looking for something as much simple to use, cause i have tried Google drive,and i don't know how to upload my sms or contact's, and i couldn't find a way to upload folders, only to make folders and then upload the files inside them .
Here is my question. Can I back up my Android phone to an alternative cloud? The import things to me are the contacts (phone) list, SMS messages and the apps in use. Photos I'm not worried about and the email I can figure out later.
There are apps that will save your contacts and SMS messages as an XML file (at least on Android), but you'd have to upload these files yourself.
Well, I'm not french, but I love french things, like this channel
I've been heavily looking into this the past few days not being happy with google drive third party apps on Linux, so you get a like from me...
But man do i dislike those rounded window corners! To each their own though :)
*Edit* One of the things that bothers me about this is they don't actually look anti-ailised. What DE is this? KDE?
Recommendation of syncthing must be muscle memory. One asks for cloud storage solutions supporting file versioning and native iOS clients with sharing options and there is ALWAYS that one guy recommending syncthing.
I use self hosted next cloud.
I just need something to store bunch of research related pdfs 😊
Google drive one drive are all fulls
Synchthing est absolument génial une fois configuré, histoire d’éviter des pertes de données accidentelles. J’utilise ça depuis des mois pour synchroniser mes cours principalement entre le portable et la tour une fois chez moi, je n’ai enfin plus besoin de ces clés usb que j’oubliais une fois sur 3
That Cozy joke made me laugh, as I sit here drinking my English champagne...
If you host Nextcloud on Linode, won't you have to trust Linode with your data then?
You can have your choice of data storage. You shouldn’t add hard drive as storage options it may cost a lot.. you could rather chose block storage from other providers and then link it next cloud
Loved your desktop on the next cloud segment
Would love to see a video on how you got that
Thanks
The major advantage of using the "big 3" is that you can be pretty sure that they will be around in a few years.
That's the crucial point. Some company giving you lifetime storage is useless if they fold.
How about Synology as a solution?
Stay tuned, video about this next week :)
Just wondering how much it would cost to host nextcloud on linode.
Why linode? Host it somewhere else and get s3 linked to it
No matter how much we techies dance around cloud technologies, there is absolutely no alternative available to iCloud. Its seamless integration with iOS and Apple devices, backups and restores with iCloud account pretty much makes other cloud providers bite the dust.
Fantastic Video, thanks for making it!
I just setup a self hosted next cloud, I just can't figure out the out of network connection
Proton drive now has a desktop app. I got rid of everything and just use that
I'm between Dropbox and Mega. Why not Dropbox?
I just saw in your video that your video files (on Nextcloud) are not showing a thumbnail too? I have the same issue - I was told this is due to being a Snap installation, and there is nothing that can be done?
I think proton, in the future, will become probably one of the best. :)
Lots of good options here, thanks for the overview.
Syncthing seems pretty amazing, didn't know it, thanks!
Anyone knows a service that allows keeping my linux settings on the cloud? Or locally? Like an android account. Might be a stupid idea as I delete my home when reinstalling to clean the configuration files.
You can sync your hidden config folder with most services if you want to be able to restore them later
You are exactly looking for gnu stow,
which help you to store all of your config in one folder and symlink them properly
To the correct location
You then store that folder anywhere (github/gitlab is better),though google drive also works😆
but catch is it's a bad idea to backup configs for big desktop environments like gnome and kde, as they configured in gui, and could breaks in updates, still you can use gnu stow to store you vim configs :)
@@vaisakh_km nice, had a look just now. I just hate that 1 application stores stuff in so many different directories... .config .local etc. Anyway, I keep my docs etc separate and I am all good. Reinstalling is so easy these days. Fresh installs are nice too
For Mega there is also a free option offering 20GBytes storage.
What watch are you wearing?
Jottacloud - photo, file storage, sync and backup, office support
Ice drive can be a good option I think
Synology?
Could you possibly do a tutorial as to how to install docker portainer and nextcloud by any chance? Thank you if you do and even if you don’t thank you for this video. It’s really nice and Informative
"The French hate everything." And here, I thought I was just cranky. Apparently, I'm French and didn't know it. :)
Good video! Synchthing is great, is the one I'm using and I love it.
Mega is perfect, it even hasn't got an anti-virus so I can upload malware on Mega and test it somewhere else without any problems.