Okay so in theory that solves our two biggest issues, stalling (the kit replaces the original flywheel with a heavier one) and obviously restarting again, thank god! But it's going to take a lot more than just that to kill a brand-new KTM... What still needs doing?
Depending in what stage of life your at could have a bearing on what mods you do. I'm nearing 50 and just want to maximise my enjoyment during the time I have on the bike. My mods - Lectron, Rekluse, LHRB - my god, way less fatigue and just like riding a giant mountain bike, love this setup so much. Impossible to stall.
Making memories with the two most important men in your life is fabulous mate. Panthera are a great company paving new roads in this arena, Sebo is great to deal with as you would be aware of already. Keep up the good content young fella.
So my build. 2021 YZ 250X. Apex head. Gnarly pipe and turbine core 2 silencer. V force reeds. Lectron Billetron, reclise clutch thing is a rocket and you can lug it like a 4 stroke in the trails. Still way cheaper then a ktm and as good and lighter then my friends 2022 ktm 300 2 stroke trail bike
just found you ash!! love this as a mechanics son raised in south auckland, I had every motorbike from the mid 70's -80's and the early 90's. Yep trail bikes galore terrorising the empty paddocks and vege gardens that our now the extensions of the airport and freight forwarding companies!! Seeing you pretend to do something with the mechanics lol (yes can see you do know a thing or two) reminds me of ME and asking my dad to fix the tricky hacks that I used :- ( throwing more dirt at the oil and petrol drips was ME Great content. XR 250 + 500 fan maybe the XT 350? My PE185 was loooose!!!
It’s funny building a KTM killer just let’s everyone know ktm is the brand to beat so it’s pointless to watch this video just go buy a ktm already. It’s already built and the best compared to a yz since like 06 or 07 since the yz hasn’t had any real updates since then lol.
Stumbled upon your channel yestie, bloody awesome stuff, finished watching both of these videos on the build keep em coming! My brother and I tested a new Rieju MR300 pro vs my bros YZ250 and came to the same conclusions the 300 felt like a 4 stroke was smooth as and made everything easy leaving left the YZ for dead as you worked your ass off through the bush and up some decent hills. I contemplated modding but the test ride pushed me over the edge and went out and brought a Rieju MR200 If I was modding a YZ250 and I was in your shoes the next mods for me would be: •Change that rear tyre to an 18" (if it's not already.) •Flywheel weight •Steering damper - Scotts • Maybe Rekluse auto clutch so you don't stall out on those big hills as often haha, be able to lug it up there •Consider a bigger tank Clarke or Acerbis 10-12lt with reserve on the petcock •Ballards WR off road light if you're planning on any night racing
YZ owner here, thinking about a flywheel for off-road. Will this smooth out the power a bit? You think it’s a no brained? Don’t know much how it will affect power
G'day @@prestonthomas5399 Yeah I reckon so, most blokes on thumper talk say about a 9oz weight and chuck a FMF gnarly pipe on it to, to make it more woodsy.
Why wouldn't it be? Bike probably didn't cost much to begin with, after 1200$ you get an estart two stroke when generally you would have to spend thousands more to get a euro bike with estart
Switch to a thinner oil like KTM 2T at 60:1 then reset the carb to run the thinner fuel, like going down to 48pilot and 170 main and dropping the needle. This will stop the bike from becoming overly rich. With yamalube at 32:1 you have to use big jets to let the thick mixture through. With lighter oil like Dominator or 2T you need smaller jets. Then it’ll run crisp at 1/4-1/2 throttle. Then ad a 13oz flywheel weight and a Hydrolic clutch from Magura. Then all there is to do is maintain it, set it up for your weight and valve it for woods. It would make a great hate scramble bike due to the short wheelbase and low height. It is really nimble in the woods. I have a 250xcw and an 03 YZ250. The YZ is more nimble, but has Factory Connection suspension, 11oz weight, hydrolic clutch, low max bars, fmf exhuast system, and is jetted for 50:1.
New zealand dollars shipped the cheapest version is over $1700 and with the 90w charge its $2350. If you want to turn your YZ into a KTM killer your wasting your time, just buy a KTM (or the white or red versions) your never gonna get rid of the YZ vibrations... if you want a trail friendly YZ then buy the X. Mod the head to correct squish, do the suspension if your a fat bastard and enjoy it for the purity of what it is. But enjoying the vid noe the less!
My first off-road bike was a 2009 yzf250 and I loved the bike to bits the suspension was fine and It had a heavy flywheel but just couldn't keep into all the other enduro bikes and kept boiling over now I've a 125 sherco and I love it
My son races A level and they have dead engine start. I would say 75 percent of the bikes are ktm's. He gets the hole shot almost every time with the kick start on his yz.
1st and second gear need to be lowered, lectron carb, apex technical innovations cylinder head, maybe a big bore, but I’m on the fence about the big bore myself. I recently switched from riding a KTM 300 for 8 years to a YZ250X and the cable clutch is honestly an easier pull in my opinion. First and second gearing is too high for really gnarly British Columbia single track tho.
Now add a hydraulic clutch, 18 inch rear wheel, 6 speed wide ratio transmission, headlight, fuel injection, oil injection and you are all set.....great video, thanks.
@@Leah_foxgirl Yes, but I have been down that road. Just never made sense to fight the obvious. The YZ is still a 2005 (your can argue actually 2006) bike. Shame Yamaha never really made the effort. I can only imagine! Regards.
@@michaelwendler5589 still should be 8mm hex head with maybe a torx option, anything that can foul with mud is not good, makes field service impossible. Same issue with smaller socket cap hex, shouldn't be on dirt bikes.
Okay so in theory that solves our two biggest issues, stalling (the kit replaces the original flywheel with a heavier one) and obviously restarting again, thank god! But it's going to take a lot more than just that to kill a brand-new KTM... What still needs doing?
ESR 325 kit, recluse, Vforce reeds
Boyesen reeds, lectrom carb and a nice tune to keep it pulling through a rpm ranges
Smartcarb.
Hydraulic clutch
Bug bore kit
The production quality on this video is amazing, seriously great job to everyone involved. Glad I stumbled across this channel much love!
Appreciate the kind words mate 👊
Good luck with the kit man. If you watched some of my vids, you know that mine had some bugs. I think they have a lot of them worked out.
Yeah saw your vids mate, my kit has definitely got a few differences to yours so I'm hoping they've got the niggles worked out now
@@ashsowman awesome. It’s a good piece of gear for sure. Psyched on your build series.
@@ashsowman do you still enjoy your electric start? Thank you
I’m really loving this series!
Glad to hear it mate!
8:13 Damn am I the only one to get the reference ? The fact that this came out of your brain so quick man, that's awesome
Get ready for blown Stators, spark plug coils, CDI’s and being stuck in the trail. “Speaking from experience”
Gearing and a 18 rear wheel, nice work 👍🏼
Depending in what stage of life your at could have a bearing on what mods you do. I'm nearing 50 and just want to maximise my enjoyment during the time I have on the bike. My mods - Lectron, Rekluse, LHRB - my god, way less fatigue and just like riding a giant mountain bike, love this setup so much. Impossible to stall.
Thought of your bike when I was watching this Azz!
If you want the real KTM experience you need to disconnect the battery now haha
love this series keep it up and longer vids if possible
Get a head cut or one with replaceable domes! I use an Apex innovations head and its awesome
LOVE THIS GUYS VIDEOS, its so sick that you interviewd the maker of that product
Only question is "why" a good running yz250 starts with half a kick!!!!
Making memories with the two most important men in your life is fabulous mate. Panthera are a great company paving new roads in this arena, Sebo is great to deal with as you would be aware of already. Keep up the good content young fella.
So my build. 2021 YZ 250X. Apex head. Gnarly pipe and turbine core 2 silencer. V force reeds. Lectron Billetron, reclise clutch thing is a rocket and you can lug it like a 4 stroke in the trails. Still way cheaper then a ktm and as good and lighter then my friends 2022 ktm 300 2 stroke trail bike
i used shipito for bikeparts to get bikeparts from California to Belgium and it was handled very well. saved money! and they work fast and correct!
just found you ash!! love this as a mechanics son raised in south auckland, I had every motorbike from the mid 70's -80's and the early 90's. Yep trail bikes galore terrorising the empty paddocks and vege gardens that our now the extensions of the airport and freight forwarding companies!! Seeing you pretend to do something with the mechanics lol (yes can see you do know a thing or two) reminds me of ME and asking my dad to fix the tricky hacks that I used :- ( throwing more dirt at the oil and petrol drips was ME Great content. XR 250 + 500 fan maybe the XT 350? My PE185 was loooose!!!
Do I smell a Lectron incoming?
Man... the E start is like a dream. I need one for my 2018 yz250.
It’s funny building a KTM killer just let’s everyone know ktm is the brand to beat so it’s pointless to watch this video just go buy a ktm already. It’s already built and the best compared to a yz since like 06 or 07 since the yz hasn’t had any real updates since then lol.
Are you gonna get the bike back to looking stock or mod it your own style brother
Thats sick!!!!!
Stumbled upon your channel yestie, bloody awesome stuff, finished watching both of these videos on the build keep em coming!
My brother and I tested a new Rieju MR300 pro vs my bros YZ250 and came to the same conclusions the 300 felt like a 4 stroke was smooth as and made everything easy leaving left the YZ for dead as you worked your ass off through the bush and up some decent hills.
I contemplated modding but the test ride pushed me over the edge and went out and brought a Rieju MR200
If I was modding a YZ250 and I was in your shoes the next mods for me would be:
•Change that rear tyre to an 18" (if it's not already.)
•Flywheel weight
•Steering damper - Scotts
• Maybe Rekluse auto clutch so you don't stall out on those big hills as often haha, be able to lug it up there
•Consider a bigger tank Clarke or Acerbis 10-12lt with reserve on the petcock
•Ballards WR off road light if you're planning on any night racing
YZ owner here, thinking about a flywheel for off-road. Will this smooth out the power a bit? You think it’s a no brained? Don’t know much how it will affect power
G'day @@prestonthomas5399
Yeah I reckon so, most blokes on thumper talk say about a 9oz weight and chuck a FMF gnarly pipe on it to, to make it more woodsy.
Will smooth out the power, hitting the power band later.
@@shaddybros3566 thank you sir! appreciate the size recommendation as well!
Always wondered why they didn’t make starter kits to go in through the back side of the kickstart housing like the KTM’s do?
Get a hydrolic clutch to
Hydraulic *
waste of time and money. hydro clutch retrofit on the yz is a waste of time
Aren’t they really expensive? Not sure it’s worth the extra coin vs other enduro focused bikes (eg Beta)
Get yourself a magura hydraulic clutch and a Midwest mountain engineering lever it will make a world of a difference for you.
Hey bruz, super keen for next ep surely let me know when it's uploading, chur
Quality! The narration is "Genuine Kiwi Bloke."
Great stuff.
So was it worth the 1200 bucks lol
Why wouldn't it be? Bike probably didn't cost much to begin with, after 1200$ you get an estart two stroke when generally you would have to spend thousands more to get a euro bike with estart
Soften the what? The suspension is fine. If it’s too stiff you’re not riding fast enough!!!!
No two stroke needs any electric start ffs. All you need is to add a stealthy flywheel weight.
Lekker mate
Seen a lot of things in life, but is that an upside down tumble dryer ????
Switch to a thinner oil like KTM 2T at 60:1 then reset the carb to run the thinner fuel, like going down to 48pilot and 170 main and dropping the needle. This will stop the bike from becoming overly rich. With yamalube at 32:1 you have to use big jets to let the thick mixture through. With lighter oil like Dominator or 2T you need smaller jets. Then it’ll run crisp at 1/4-1/2 throttle. Then ad a 13oz flywheel weight and a Hydrolic clutch from Magura. Then all there is to do is maintain it, set it up for your weight and valve it for woods. It would make a great hate scramble bike due to the short wheelbase and low height. It is really nimble in the woods. I have a 250xcw and an 03 YZ250. The YZ is more nimble, but has Factory Connection suspension, 11oz weight, hydrolic clutch, low max bars, fmf exhuast system, and is jetted for 50:1.
Watched the first episode last night and couldn’t wait for the next one 👍
If it wants to be a ktm killer. You need a hydraulic clutch
suspension will make huge diff to the vibrations
any update if it is still working now? i heard there are lots of issues with this kit
That’s crappy little yz isn’t gonna kill a ktm
Long process but gonna be worth it!! 🔥💪
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At over $1,000 is it worth the price?
New zealand dollars shipped the cheapest version is over $1700 and with the 90w charge its $2350. If you want to turn your YZ into a KTM killer your wasting your time, just buy a KTM (or the white or red versions) your never gonna get rid of the YZ vibrations... if you want a trail friendly YZ then buy the X. Mod the head to correct squish, do the suspension if your a fat bastard and enjoy it for the purity of what it is. But enjoying the vid noe the less!
@@firemenonbikes i figured as much. Definitely not worth it at that price.
Great... now your right calf can shrink back down to the size of your left calf :-)
Kicking a 2stroke 250 that starts first kick ain't gonna build no giant calf... This isnt a 4 stroke... Gumon!
You should also get the race tech restyle kit
My first off-road bike was a 2009 yzf250 and I loved the bike to bits the suspension was fine and It had a heavy flywheel but just couldn't keep into all the other enduro bikes and kept boiling over now I've a 125 sherco and I love it
What part of new zealand are you from
Brilliant brother brilliant piece of film! 18” wheel lectron carb, gearing 13-50 or 13-52 handguards and armor, lighting, suspension tuning
I thought the whole point of buying a YZ was to build an enduro bike cheaply... I don't really want to spend 50% of the bike's value to add e-start.
great video mate bikes gonna be lit
Get Ktm250sx I have a Ktm125 sx
My son races A level and they have dead engine start. I would say 75 percent of the bikes are ktm's. He gets the hole shot almost every time with the kick start on his yz.
I was excited about being able to put a electric start on my yz450f till I seen the price point and the fact that they don't have one for a 450
Awesome mate . Well done. I will be getting one for the crf250R . I’m over Kicking it over !
thats too ganrly my guys.
Fantastic content, great topic, informative, well shot and not taking yourself too seriously. Looking forward to more of this series....
As a yz 250 owner I allays said no reason for E start on these bikes. But that cold start was cool
God I love these videos. Entertainment to the max and get to see cool stuff like an e start yz250.
put a new 2 stroke pipe on
Here me out… Tesla motor
I love these types of vids I wanna start modifying my yz450 now
Does he reply?
When untill the next vid?
The video quality is insane dude. So enjoyable to watch. Keep it up!
That’s really cool
my new favorite series on youtube glad to have stumbled upon your first video!
He’s done all the “hard yards” gonna need a bit of help lmao “yards?”
1st and second gear need to be lowered, lectron carb, apex technical innovations cylinder head, maybe a big bore, but I’m on the fence about the big bore myself.
I recently switched from riding a KTM 300 for 8 years to a YZ250X and the cable clutch is honestly an easier pull in my opinion. First and second gearing is too high for really gnarly British Columbia single track tho.
I would say flywheel weight too but I see that the new stator assy acts as one
Yeah goes hard✊🏻
"a noise no one wants to hear"
LOOOOOOOOOL
Call Step Mom when you're stuck! 🤣
Definitely KTM killer now you got that band on button 💯
Great series, I’m watching from my garage in Canada.
“The ole y-zeed “
Amazing bro
KTM ist dead🙏😅👍🥳
Get a Yz 250x cdi and it will be a bit better in the woods
Awesome 👍
Enjoying this series. Thanks for posting!
number 1 mod needs to be a hydraulic clutch
squish mod, lectron carb
Bekfast
Think I commented this on the last video 😂
Pretty cool to see 3 gens of moto guys working on one thing. Great series “mate” 🇨🇦
Excellent mate! Enduro life.
Now add a hydraulic clutch, 18 inch rear wheel, 6 speed wide ratio transmission, headlight, fuel injection, oil injection and you are all set.....great video, thanks.
i sense a ktm owner nearbye
@@Leah_foxgirl Yes, but I have been down that road. Just never made sense to fight the obvious. The YZ is still a 2005 (your can argue actually 2006) bike. Shame Yamaha never really made the effort. I can only imagine! Regards.
🤤😋🤤🤤
Am I the only one who loves his voice
Imagine having to use shipito
It’s not the bike… it’s the rider.
i'm hyped to see how this turns out
👌
Stumbled upon your series. Here i am not working in Utah watching an Aussie build up an old Yamaha. Love it.
Haha an "Aussie" 🤣... Hopefully the "Kiwis" won't take that comment to heart!
You Canadians are funny :)
Hardcase videos bro What web site and how much was the estart bro
Google Panthera estart, job done.
Awesome as ash love the videos bro
Funny thing is. I have been looking at getting one myself. This video has confirmed my purchase
Won't regret it mate. Perfect all rounder bike
@@stephangiannoulidis509 my next big question is ... How far away is a YZ 250 With electric start , kick stand and lights from road registration
The fact that you need a Philips screwdriver to remove anything on the Yam is a deal killer for me lol.
They're actually JIS-2 screws... not "Phillips Head" That's why everyone strips them out, because they're using the wrong driver to take them off.
@@michaelwendler5589 still should be 8mm hex head with maybe a torx option, anything that can foul with mud is not good, makes field service impossible. Same issue with smaller socket cap hex, shouldn't be on dirt bikes.
great product
Nice video bro
Get a restyle kit