Cleaning Up After Breaking Navy Ships

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  • Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
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    Portland’s role as a postwar shipbreaking center meant environmental consequences of WWII would extend well beyond the war years. After years of prosperity, the family that built the business would find themselves in possession of a polluted wasteland. Was Portland’s South Waterfront beyond redemption?
    Credits
    Producer/Writer: Cassandra Profita
    Narrator: Cassandra Profita
    Photography/Editor: Chris Nolan
    Production support: Carolin Jones
    Research: Katie Nelson
    Archival material: Zidell Companies, NorthWest Ecosystem Services, Inc., Oregon Historical Society Research Library, The Oregonian, City of Portland Archives, Kaiser Permanente Heritage Resources, KOIN Phonodisc Collection, Oregon Historical Society Research Library
    Music: Firstcom

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  • @sbains560
    @sbains560 4 роки тому +6

    I love the old footage
    UA-cam has changed the way local and international history is seen and told

  • @johndunkle740
    @johndunkle740 5 років тому +4

    I love both the scrap yards and the smell they have. That's history.

  • @g2macs
    @g2macs 3 роки тому +2

    I lived beside a breakers yard in Scotland. When it closed the Navy (who took over the land) discovered mountains of asbestos from
    boilers and pipes. Took multi-millions to clean up.

  • @KevinBreak
    @KevinBreak 6 років тому +12

    the sliced-off ship bows were fascinating.... would've been nice in a park, shined up.

  • @knightlife98
    @knightlife98 6 років тому +30

    Ummmm....., ".....a ship every four days." Now that is quite amazing!!!!

    • @MichSignMan
      @MichSignMan 5 років тому +1

      I read once that 20 out of 35 ships sailing cargo could be sunk from U-boats..... damn.....

    • @foxbodyblues6709
      @foxbodyblues6709 4 роки тому +3

      Even that number is not right, it was actually every day. They could finish a liberty ship every day.
      Thank god they did.

    • @turboconqueringmegaeagle9006
      @turboconqueringmegaeagle9006 3 роки тому +2

      Lots of yards each with dozens of slips and the components were pre fab just to give some understanding, but absolutely incredible all the same, fastest liberty ship keel laying to launch was 4 days, in that time the men and women of california assembled a 440' 15,000t ship.

  • @themirageguy6292
    @themirageguy6292 5 років тому +2

    Glad the Iowa and the Texas wasn’t scrapped

  • @rogerwilco2
    @rogerwilco2 3 роки тому +1

    Quite a bit of that metal must be pre-1944, and thus not contaminated with nuclear waste.
    In some areas that is worth quite a bit, as all metal from after 1944/45 is slightly radio-active.

  •  5 років тому +7

    Hire the bums to work there, o yea bums dont want to work, just steal and get high.

  • @imchris5000
    @imchris5000 6 років тому +8

    im surprised no one has taken the big clevis's they are pretty expensive

  • @mysterybuyer3738
    @mysterybuyer3738 5 років тому +19

    Everything is classified as hazardous these days even sand because of the silica. I think many hazards are over blown. PCBs are most likely legit though.

  • @osvaldocristo
    @osvaldocristo 5 років тому +8

    ...and everything was creatively solved simply sending all shipbreaking to India and Pakistan. Perfect!

  • @johnpartridge7623
    @johnpartridge7623 Рік тому

    A good job done

  • @SomeGuyInSandy
    @SomeGuyInSandy 6 років тому +17

    Typical Portland... Put a band-aid on it. It will be fine.

    • @themirageguy6292
      @themirageguy6292 5 років тому

      SomeGuyInSandy or blow the scrap yard up with a nuke or 190 kamikaze blowing up

  • @ExploringCabinsandMines
    @ExploringCabinsandMines 5 років тому +13

    Scrap steel and concrete are not toxic.

    • @nickkeizer3722
      @nickkeizer3722 5 років тому

      Yea, but what about the lead based paint, asbestos, pcb's, etc.?

    • @mysterybuyer3738
      @mysterybuyer3738 5 років тому +2

      Even lead I don't think is as hazardous as they make it out to be. People who even work with lead daily get checked out and their health comes up clean.
      As a kid I handled scrap lead all the time like bullets, pipe etc. I can see if you are trying to eat it but they freak out just for saying the word.

    • @curtekstrom6600
      @curtekstrom6600 4 роки тому +1

      @@nickkeizer3722 It's Oregon, who cares, it's no Loss.

    • @MrJeep75
      @MrJeep75 3 роки тому

      @@nickkeizer3722 that's been long gone years ago

  • @drewschroeder1163
    @drewschroeder1163 5 років тому +2

    It was capped... They didn't clean up shit, they hid it.

  • @mankokennewick5802
    @mankokennewick5802 5 років тому +1

    A dirty industrial past? Now it's a dirty shit infested present.

  • @lechandler4041
    @lechandler4041 6 років тому +16

    Looks like a gold mine for someone to salvage this iron.

    • @obfuscated3090
      @obfuscated3090 5 років тому +2

      Check scrap prices.

    • @obfuscated3090
      @obfuscated3090 5 років тому +2

      Looks like 12 posters know nothing about scrap prices.

    • @mysterybuyer3738
      @mysterybuyer3738 5 років тому +1

      @DRS_ au I extract steel from old appliances. I enjoy it a lot. Not sure why people haven't salvaged it.

    • @mysterybuyer3738
      @mysterybuyer3738 5 років тому +6

      I am in the recycling industry. Have been all my life. It's ok recycling iron and steel. You have to have a lot of it but it adds up fast.
      Good money can be made if you are not the typical lazy ass American.

    • @mysterybuyer3738
      @mysterybuyer3738 5 років тому +1

      @DRS_ au Yep just give it time. They might find the industry out of necessity when they realize their world as they know it is gone.
      Until then they are mostly ignorant about the scrap industry.

  • @vancepomerening4794
    @vancepomerening4794 3 роки тому +2

    1:22 Um, that was kind of the idea.

  • @Ship746
    @Ship746 6 років тому +1

    Nice

  • @stevelong5690
    @stevelong5690 6 років тому +13

    Capping doesn't help rain waiter will run through it

  • @Emilthehun
    @Emilthehun 5 років тому +6

    So all the garbage is covered up by 2 feet of clean dirt and some new vegetation. Ready to be sold off for housing and such.

    • @MichSignMan
      @MichSignMan 5 років тому

      You heard him. Your protected by 2 feet of clean dirt. So, get naked and lay in your lawn, your safe. lol

  • @mjt-ew8rs
    @mjt-ew8rs 6 років тому +1

    good god damn. Portland would show this. I live in pdx. this poor city has lost its way

    • @dundonrl
      @dundonrl 5 років тому +1

      Now it's full of hippy liberals, that would be more at home in Venezuela.

    • @curtekstrom6600
      @curtekstrom6600 4 роки тому

      Fuck Portland and ALL THREE Western States Washington, Oregon and California. May Americans wake up one morning to the News that those Three States Snapped off at the State lines and Sank into the Pacific.

  • @KevinBreak
    @KevinBreak 6 років тому

    imho the ecologist is saying it's a 'simulation of nature' because he's not sure it will last.

  • @lindsayfog5246
    @lindsayfog5246 5 років тому +18

    so it's a face-lift to entice developers, and this is the commercial. yawn

    • @bryanrutan8445
      @bryanrutan8445 5 років тому +1

      Good point- now it's time for the flip sale

  • @walterquick8649
    @walterquick8649 5 років тому +5

    Thank god for TEXAS , they are making PAYROLL on portlands mistake!! SAD

    • @curtekstrom6600
      @curtekstrom6600 4 роки тому +1

      Damn Straight, Oregon Whiners got what they wanted. Texas wins again.

    • @graham2631
      @graham2631 3 роки тому

      And how much has that tin can cost and still looks like swiss cheese? Think Portland got it right,scrap um. By they way when will they just cement the Texas in at water line? Keep it floating lmfao idiots.

  • @WayneDome-dm8iu
    @WayneDome-dm8iu 6 років тому +2

    So they really didnt clean all of it up, they covered it with 2feet of sand which can wash away?

    • @mjt-ew8rs
      @mjt-ew8rs 6 років тому

      watch it again asshat

    • @WayneDome-dm8iu
      @WayneDome-dm8iu 6 років тому +1

      Ok, shit for brains I watched it again, They clearly said they cleaned up" most of it"not ALL of it. then capped it with2 feet of topping. Lousy Job. Do it right or move aside and the pros handle the work. Shit for Brains.

    • @johnnykelly3063
      @johnnykelly3063 6 років тому

      U are 100% rite, they said they covered it with 2 ft of sand

    • @keevepenn
      @keevepenn 6 років тому

      I found myself concerned too. Goto Love Canal and you will see that a lot of the waste was left in situ (on site). Same here and the question is how long before it leaches out, just like Love Canal. Is there any monitoring to insure that people are safe?

  • @bobertmcboberty1385
    @bobertmcboberty1385 5 років тому

    Check out India’s ship breaking yards. Pure hell.

  • @AmericanThunder
    @AmericanThunder 5 років тому +5

    A new ship every 4 days, holy shit! er ship

  • @papabits5721
    @papabits5721 6 років тому +4

    now we have Alang so no problem now.

  • @QuicKnDead911
    @QuicKnDead911 5 років тому +3

    Its called gentrification.

  • @Dog.soldier1950
    @Dog.soldier1950 5 років тому +1

    ‘toxic”. Seems very unlikely plain old 80yo steel

    • @ronalddavis
      @ronalddavis 5 років тому +1

      yeah old iron is not toxic

  • @bestamerica
    @bestamerica 5 років тому

    '
    better pick up all rusty old metals / clean up and send to metal reyecler center...
    keep all water cleanness ocean / sea

  • @W5BW
    @W5BW 5 років тому

    Best this to do with old ships is to sink them to make artificial reefs! They say the USS Saratoga sold for 1 US Penny for scrap?

    • @SamSurplusSales
      @SamSurplusSales 4 роки тому

      The Sara sold for 1 cent and the d.o.d. paid the yard in TX 2.3 million to break her up.

  • @Scott-hb1xn
    @Scott-hb1xn 3 роки тому

    Shame. I hate seeing old ships destroyed for any reason.

  • @sr633
    @sr633 6 років тому

    They did not know to take a shower in an atomic test site on ship with radio active water ? Or stepping onto a test Atomic test target ? oh well.

  • @Cyberpuppy63
    @Cyberpuppy63 6 років тому +2

    Ah, the glory days of ship building. the sad waste of millions of tons of rusting iron, and steel. I'm sure something new (useful) will be made of this needed resource. New cars, building materials for low-income Americans, and a new future! lol.

    • @daveroberts6884
      @daveroberts6884 6 років тому

      They recycled the best metal, bits that could be cut and laid flat as to be cheaper to ship. Anything else was too hard and too costly to process. Brass and copper where high value. Iron and steel low value. The profit is in making the most money from the best bits and passing the rest down the food chain. Boiler brick, boiler insulation, interior furnishings where worthless.

  • @adventuressurvivalinthailand
    @adventuressurvivalinthailand 3 роки тому

    So if the material wasn't "hazardous" it's okay to dump all over the river? Ummm, the Zidell mindset isn't very encouraging

  • @galaxypower23
    @galaxypower23 5 років тому +2

    They should stop making massive ships if they can’t dispose them properly without damaging our beautiful oceans..

    • @Robert-ti5ku
      @Robert-ti5ku 5 років тому +2

      then how will you get your cheap Chinese crap, cupcake?

    • @SamSurplusSales
      @SamSurplusSales 4 роки тому

      @@Robert-ti5ku he'll who will protect the ships that haul his cheap Chinese crap.

  • @ronmartin3755
    @ronmartin3755 4 роки тому

    I wish more people like the ones cleaning this up were doing this all over this country. Portland isn't the only place this happened to. It is a shame we have people rioting in the streets and destroying things faster than we used to build them!

  • @stevenbartholf8310
    @stevenbartholf8310 5 років тому +1

    They dont care if we catch can cer

    • @curtekstrom6600
      @curtekstrom6600 4 роки тому

      News Flash Snowflake, Everyone is born with and carrying a Cancer. It's just a matter of time as to when and if it advances.

  • @paulgrimm7842
    @paulgrimm7842 6 років тому +1

    Build condos

  • @arandomyugoslav389
    @arandomyugoslav389 3 роки тому

    you know I actually saw something I actually saw an engine being caught up for scrap mountains and mountains and mountains of scrap metal of wheels pieces of brake fans pieces of car and pieces of old rusty engines real and I'm a kid are you always fart they actually had new lives I remembered someday that I remember that I was actually saw an engine being caught off a scrap but I actually help them cut them out for scrap I just melting them and I just cut one of them and you know and the creaking noise of the of this baby when I'm coming when I'm calling them up and when they fall down I the creaking when there's only being picked up because laughing

  • @ignacemertens325
    @ignacemertens325 6 років тому

    K7

  • @frankcrawford416
    @frankcrawford416 5 років тому +1

    You guys should of just let the water in the river do its job. Now the pollutants will remain longer. You think you can do a better job than God can?

  • @richardgash2349
    @richardgash2349 3 роки тому

    portland is a joke now

  • @MirceaD28
    @MirceaD28 6 років тому +1

    Where is a human, there is pollution and harm to mother nature