Hey Bart. It would be cool if you could go over the hands from the villains perspective afterward. Giving two sides to each story I feel like could be helpful. Thank u sir
Great job working it out. I liked the reasoning, made a lot of sense. I'd put in the call. If he has those big value hands it's a cooler. So many draws bricked, he could even be bluffing with top pair good kicker. You had the strongest bluff catcher.
99 would do a lot of raising on that board unless they're doing the PLO strategy of seeing a card. We block QQ and JJ and those would be 4bet a lot. KT is the most reasonable value hand and that's more likely to be suited, so fewer combos. Then there's a billion draws that all bricked out. I think this is a fairly easy call imo with those pot odds. I think jamming the turn is the right play. If he has KT or 99, so be it, we're not dead.
It’s bad for the villain because it blocks the hero from having one of the busted draws. If he has no 10 that means there is more combos of busted draws for the hero so the villain’s jam is more likely to get through because the hero is more likely to have a draw that he was betting hoping that it hit that missed. TLDR: it’s bad because the villain that’s bluffing wants the hero to have as many combos of busted draws as possible when he’s bluffing because that means it’s more likely to get through.Especially because 10 “x” has no showdown value so he’s going to fold to the jam.
Really don't like that turn call although in the moment I get it, it's confusing. There are a boat load more bluffs than values hands for villain but, still, most people don't bluff that much so it's a tough decision but I'm never calling the turn. Either Jam or fold. I could see either one though I'd prefer the Jam. Because then you are denying equity to a HUGE host of flush and straight draws or, at least, making them pay top dollar. just sucks when he has K 10 since you only have 8 % chance of improving.
The one thing I keep hearing a lot in these vids, is "well the solver says we should do this" I'm not sure if I am the only one but this always confuses me. For Solver outputs to be correct, it requires the correct pre-flop ranges to be selected. This is live poker, what range are we giving the guy on the button? Nobody ever gets this bit right, which means the outputs can be way off making the output almost useless
some people believe: that one spade in his hand would block V from having a spade front door flush draw. So: in this case it is of utmost importance that H does not have a spade, so V could possibly have that spade that did not lend In H hands (), and then he could possibly have a front door flush draw, which could made V keep calling, raising till he exhaust his all stack, and H can cash all of them to his benefit. . Now, just listen to this: 1) 1 spade blocks all other 12 from coming into V hand 2) if V has spades that is great, because he can not outdraw you. whoever has a front door flush draw, they never complete the flush!(???). They can only die calling your bets, and keep missing. 3) Now, it's completely irrelevant what's V holding; however it is CRUCIAL to know that V might have been unblocked from certain cards.
If you don't have a flush draw you unblock the other guy from having a flush draw, which you actually want when you have a pair. Because a pair is a favourite over flush draw
Nice call. There's a lot of bluffs here like J10 or a bunch with Ace of spades. I think the only hand villain does this to win is 99 but thats an easy raise on the flop.
Potentially a better play from villain to just call turn in-position and then jam on favourable rivers? Problem with having the As and the 10 is that you block loads of missed draws that fold to a river bet...or that you are beating with ace-high. As played, when hero continues to the turn x/r and river is a brick, feel like villain should probably give up with that specific combo personally.
That turn raise caused the villain a lot of trouble. Seems a good spot to call and see a river leaving enough behind for a jam to have some real fold equity. Well, higher stakes than I play, so what do I know? Maybe he just didn’t have the equity to call and it was a raise or fold spot.
I would bet flop, check/call turn and check/call river. I will pay attention to villians bet sizes. Usually turn bet will be 2/3 pot and river will be similar if he has it. If he pots or shoves river 90% is a bluff.
On turn: I feel like villain is planning to jam river with any K, T, or spade to represent. He also may expect hero to check most rivers, giving him the jam bluff. SPR mistake would leave hero in as check call most others & even if these rivers arrive. If hero realizes this implied jam attempt, a check call value owns V right?
What a hand! This is a pretty bad punt by vill here IMO. The T is good to have, but the A does not have good blocking properties with this runnout. Its a better line if he has TT, KT, QT, or JT that also blocks sets. He cant really structure a credible bluff line with these stack sizes. I think almost a 2-2.5 raise OTT is a betrer line if hes going to jam river. As played, he needed a more connected river to continue.
Regular question here. I find myself lost in hands live when it comes to deciding whether to bet or check, I am wondering where I can read up on that. Thanks.
@@notNaB2024 you’re trying to get too much out of a loaded question. If you actually play poker, meaning you can handle swings and aren’t just waiting to cooler someone, you should always follow these 2 rules in live cash. 1) Always try to isolate and get a heads up if not 3 way. Sometimes you end up in a dumb multi way pot bc of pot odds, that’s when you employ checking. 2) try to avoid calling, especially pre flop. Under all circumstances, ask yourself, what can i do besides calling? If you can follow these two rules you will be good. So what are your reasons for checking? It’s mostly so you can check raise or trap. As for your reasons for betting- you should be able to articulate those to yourself before any bet or you shouldn’t be betting/playing live. Are you trying to test their range? Only certain ranges can call or raise certain bets. Are you betting for protection, for value, or to dominate their equity by repping value with a draw? There is no literature for this. You need to play countless hours against many opponents. The key to all of this is to make yourself less exploitable. Poker is a live game not a theory game. Theory is simply there so you can read what the other person is doing based on odds and patterns.
@@notNaB2024 @johnmar6376 summed it up perfectly. The only problem is, a truly good live cash player will use all 4 of those against you. The way you think about position, range advantage, and all the reasons leading to why it’s better to bet or check will be used against you. That’s why you have to think about every problem independently.
Bart talked about why it's fine for the villain to defend with A-10 off preflop, but I'm more curious about whether or not it's okay to call a bet on the flop with a backdoor flush draw and a backdoor straight draw. I think that on a Q-9-4 board, you should fold A-10 off, even if you do have the backdoor nut flush draw, a backdoor straight draw, and position. But is that just me being too much of a nit? Especially in this situation where if you do make your straight or your flush, it's four to a straight or four to a flush on the board (although at least if the turn and river are K and J, you can get called by a naked 10 that has a lower straight).
Bart hit on exactly what I was thinking. He either has a straight on the turn or you win. If he's on a pair + draw, you want him to risk it all to chase. I would shove my 2 pair on the turn, and hope he calls to chase
Caller mentions that the hands he feels like he is loosing to on the river are k10 suited and pocket 9's, but I find 99 to be very unlikely as played. Given that hero has all better set combos (QQ/ JJ), and K10 suited himself in his 3 bet range, is villain really waiting until the turn turn up the aggression & raise the turn bet after the straight comes in, plus still being behind to QQ & JJ?? Seems much more likely if villain had 99 he would raise the flop given board texture.
There was a lot here I did not fully understand. There is a discussion of hero not having spades as good. If I'm hero & my QJ is spades I'm never considering a fold on turn. Maybe this is about hero having QJ off with 1 spade? Is that a fold? Not for me. Then there is talk of hero having a ten. What hand does hero have with a ten that is the same/similar? Is QT the same hand here? I don't think QT should continue betting on turn unless it's suited in spades. I also question 3 betting QT pre from SB, but I digress. I just see hero losing here as a cooler. 99 is made less likely because the raise comes on turn instead of flop. Combined with hero hitting top 2 when the raise does come. KT seems really unlucky as turn card gives us top 2 & villain the nut straight.
Not sure it was wise for villian to block the brickest river ever. It was a good play on the turn, not sure if the villain can hang on with a single pair like AQ, AA or KK.
My initial thought was a Jxs hand like J10s, JKs, or was being loosey goosey and defended J8s. Although J10s and KJs might be to good a hand to raise on the turn since raising and then getting jammed on would be a disaster. Pretty much pray and hope villain doesn't have the nuts or a set.
They didn’t include J,10 because it’s very unlikely. The hero is holding a J and there is one on the board meaning the likelihood of the villain having one is super low.
I had an extremely similar situation last week actually. I was oop with Js9s Front door clubs on the Jack high flop in an SRP from IP. Jack high flop and I donked for like 1/2 (this is something I've noticed will help you get rid of people who don't belong in your pot if your multiway and oop. And will also lyk if theres any monsters hiding in the weeds) Anyway, Turn put backdoor hearts out Went ! / RAISE / call. River bricked everything expect for specifically 8h9h catching a backdoor straight on 7d.. I checked... V jammed covering me.. I felt that his turn raise really kinda skewed him towards turning some kind of combo draw (the way v did here actually) and I just didn't believe him. Called. He flashed Qh9h my way (we do have a little history but not a great deal) and mucked I think he just didn't believe I sniffed it out. Top pair held and that was that.
Villain is terrible. How can you say he is a good player. How does A10 off suit ever jam the river. You're never getting folds after hero calls the turn
Is it not obvious that the villain has the 10 of spades in his hand, if so is it not a call. Because King 10 of spades, would not raise so much on the turn?
Villain got in that messy situation by calling the flop. That’s his big mistake. When hero calls turn, he should never bet the river the odds to call are too good. Hell even KK or AQ could find a call
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Can we just take a second to appreciate the quality of the caller’s audio
I feel like I’ve heard this caller before. Like him
Hey Bart. It would be cool if you could go over the hands from the villains perspective afterward. Giving two sides to each story I feel like could be helpful. Thank u sir
That's a nice idea!
Great job working it out. I liked the reasoning, made a lot of sense. I'd put in the call. If he has those big value hands it's a cooler. So many draws bricked, he could even be bluffing with top pair good kicker. You had the strongest bluff catcher.
I am never bluffing that river in that spot with that hand. That’s just a pure give up, so he fucking punted.
99 would do a lot of raising on that board unless they're doing the PLO strategy of seeing a card. We block QQ and JJ and those would be 4bet a lot. KT is the most reasonable value hand and that's more likely to be suited, so fewer combos. Then there's a billion draws that all bricked out. I think this is a fairly easy call imo with those pot odds. I think jamming the turn is the right play. If he has KT or 99, so be it, we're not dead.
Your opponent having a 10 on the river isn’t bad for him, it blocks you having the nuts…
It’s bad for the villain because it blocks the hero from having one of the busted draws. If he has no 10 that means there is more combos of busted draws for the hero so the villain’s jam is more likely to get through because the hero is more likely to have a draw that he was betting hoping that it hit that missed. TLDR: it’s bad because the villain that’s bluffing wants the hero to have as many combos of busted draws as possible when he’s bluffing because that means it’s more likely to get through.Especially because 10 “x” has no showdown value so he’s going to fold to the jam.
Really don't like that turn call although in the moment I get it, it's confusing. There are a boat load more bluffs than values hands for villain but, still, most people don't bluff that much so it's a tough decision but I'm never calling the turn. Either Jam or fold. I could see either one though I'd prefer the Jam. Because then you are denying equity to a HUGE host of flush and straight draws or, at least, making them pay top dollar. just sucks when he has K 10 since you only have 8 % chance of improving.
The one thing I keep hearing a lot in these vids, is "well the solver says we should do this"
I'm not sure if I am the only one but this always confuses me. For Solver outputs to be correct, it requires the correct pre-flop ranges to be selected.
This is live poker, what range are we giving the guy on the button? Nobody ever gets this bit right, which means the outputs can be way off making the output almost useless
I believe they input the opponents assumed range into pio solver and go from there
What does he mean at 5:53 when he said he likes his hand because he “unblocks spades”
some people believe: that one spade in his hand would block V from having a spade front door flush draw. So: in this case it is of utmost importance that H does not have a spade, so V could possibly have that spade that did not lend In H hands (), and then he could possibly have a front door flush draw, which could made V keep calling, raising till he exhaust his all stack, and H can cash all of them to his benefit.
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Now, just listen to this:
1) 1 spade blocks all other 12 from coming into V hand
2) if V has spades that is great, because he can not outdraw you. whoever has a front door flush draw, they never complete the flush!(???). They can only die calling your bets, and keep missing.
3) Now, it's completely irrelevant what's V holding; however it is CRUCIAL to know that V might have been unblocked from certain cards.
If you don't have a flush draw you unblock the other guy from having a flush draw, which you actually want when you have a pair. Because a pair is a favourite over flush draw
Nice call. There's a lot of bluffs here like J10 or a bunch with Ace of spades. I think the only hand villain does this to win is 99 but thats an easy raise on the flop.
Potentially a better play from villain to just call turn in-position and then jam on favourable rivers? Problem with having the As and the 10 is that you block loads of missed draws that fold to a river bet...or that you are beating with ace-high. As played, when hero continues to the turn x/r and river is a brick, feel like villain should probably give up with that specific combo personally.
Pausing at turn, I was like, don't tell me the villain raise AT of diamonds or JT
Now I got the reveal, not bad villain, I love it
Very interesting hand. A lot to think about
i think villain could have jacks here right? you wouldn’t fold to 1/3 and you’d raise the turn no? also jack’s are mix 4bet/call
Only one combo JJ available though
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I think it's played fine; possibly going all in on turn would be as good or slightly better.
Does anyone know what UA-cam channel this caller runs?
That turn raise caused the villain a lot of trouble. Seems a good spot to call and see a river leaving enough behind for a jam to have some real fold equity. Well, higher stakes than I play, so what do I know? Maybe he just didn’t have the equity to call and it was a raise or fold spot.
I’m convinced having a broadway 2 pair is the made hand that I have the hardest time playing and lose the most money on
All the times you have a two pair and you're good don't make up for those times you overplay it or just make a good call and lose?
That river misses all draws... I close my eyes and call. If he's got me he's got me
I would bet flop, check/call turn and check/call river. I will pay attention to villians bet sizes. Usually turn bet will be 2/3 pot and river will be similar if he has it. If he pots or shoves river 90% is a bluff.
Gr8 read by hero. Way to stack up chips!
On turn: I feel like villain is planning to jam river with any K, T, or spade to represent. He also may expect hero to check most rivers, giving him the jam bluff. SPR mistake would leave hero in as check call most others & even if these rivers arrive. If hero realizes this implied jam attempt, a check call value owns V right?
What a hand! This is a pretty bad punt by vill here IMO. The T is good to have, but the A does not have good blocking properties with this runnout. Its a better line if he has TT, KT, QT, or JT that also blocks sets. He cant really structure a credible bluff line with these stack sizes. I think almost a 2-2.5 raise OTT is a betrer line if hes going to jam river. As played, he needed a more connected river to continue.
Regular question here. I find myself lost in hands live when it comes to deciding whether to bet or check, I am wondering where I can read up on that. Thanks.
There is no right answer to this. Having a brain to think about the problem at hand helps.
@@antisan great advice like always.
Range advantage, having the lead, Villain has shown capped range and position. The more of the four you have the more you should consider raising. GL
@@notNaB2024 you’re trying to get too much out of a loaded question. If you actually play poker, meaning you can handle swings and aren’t just waiting to cooler someone, you should always follow these 2 rules in live cash. 1) Always try to isolate and get a heads up if not 3 way. Sometimes you end up in a dumb multi way pot bc of pot odds, that’s when you employ checking. 2) try to avoid calling, especially pre flop. Under all circumstances, ask yourself, what can i do besides calling? If you can follow these two rules you will be good. So what are your reasons for checking? It’s mostly so you can check raise or trap. As for your reasons for betting- you should be able to articulate those to yourself before any bet or you shouldn’t be betting/playing live. Are you trying to test their range? Only certain ranges can call or raise certain bets. Are you betting for protection, for value, or to dominate their equity by repping value with a draw? There is no literature for this. You need to play countless hours against many opponents. The key to all of this is to make yourself less exploitable. Poker is a live game not a theory game. Theory is simply there so you can read what the other person is doing based on odds and patterns.
@@notNaB2024 @johnmar6376 summed it up perfectly. The only problem is, a truly good live cash player will use all 4 of those against you. The way you think about position, range advantage, and all the reasons leading to why it’s better to bet or check will be used against you. That’s why you have to think about every problem independently.
Thanks for the hand of the day .
Bart talked about why it's fine for the villain to defend with A-10 off preflop, but I'm more curious about whether or not it's okay to call a bet on the flop with a backdoor flush draw and a backdoor straight draw. I think that on a Q-9-4 board, you should fold A-10 off, even if you do have the backdoor nut flush draw, a backdoor straight draw, and position. But is that just me being too much of a nit? Especially in this situation where if you do make your straight or your flush, it's four to a straight or four to a flush on the board (although at least if the turn and river are K and J, you can get called by a naked 10 that has a lower straight).
Should villain bet the river or give up?
I would have given up. 1) hero has shown lots of strength 2)hero gets great odds to call 3)no way I have a winning hand
@@johnmar6376 appreciate your reply. I 💯 agree with your firsts 2 reasons.
he should never gotten there.
Bart hit on exactly what I was thinking. He either has a straight on the turn or you win. If he's on a pair + draw, you want him to risk it all to chase. I would shove my 2 pair on the turn, and hope he calls to chase
I don't think a straight would raise because if hero has a single pair he loses value cuz he likely folds.
@Mr Humble even with the board double suited? I'm getting the money in on the turn
@@joncorb540 You and me both!
@@joncorb540 I didn't think it was played like a flush draw
@@mrhumble2937 more like a combo draw
Caller mentions that the hands he feels like he is loosing to on the river are k10 suited and pocket 9's, but I find 99 to be very unlikely as played. Given that hero has all better set combos (QQ/ JJ), and K10 suited himself in his 3 bet range, is villain really waiting until the turn turn up the aggression & raise the turn bet after the straight comes in, plus still being behind to QQ & JJ?? Seems much more likely if villain had 99 he would raise the flop given board texture.
There was a lot here I did not fully understand. There is a discussion of hero not having spades as good. If I'm hero & my QJ is spades I'm never considering a fold on turn. Maybe this is about hero having QJ off with 1 spade? Is that a fold? Not for me.
Then there is talk of hero having a ten. What hand does hero have with a ten that is the same/similar? Is QT the same hand here? I don't think QT should continue betting on turn unless it's suited in spades. I also question 3 betting QT pre from SB, but I digress.
I just see hero losing here as a cooler. 99 is made less likely because the raise comes on turn instead of flop. Combined with hero hitting top 2 when the raise does come. KT seems really unlucky as turn card gives us top 2 & villain the nut straight.
Not sure it was wise for villian to block the brickest river ever. It was a good play on the turn, not sure if the villain can hang on with a single pair like AQ, AA or KK.
I would snap this at about 90 percent 😂
Why's turn a call?
Regarding the river jam, why would the villain want to have the As in this instance?
Because if a spade comes on the river, villain can represent the nut flush and bluff hero off his two pair
@Jon Corb and V knows H has 2 pairs? 😂@#$%^😂
V could bluff himself on river if H has K high flush on river. Or, even K high straight.
My initial thought was a Jxs hand like J10s, JKs, or was being loosey goosey and defended J8s. Although J10s and KJs might be to good a hand to raise on the turn since raising and then getting jammed on would be a disaster. Pretty much pray and hope villain doesn't have the nuts or a set.
J10 makes a lot of sense here too either way I think the call is pretty standard the way this hand played out.
They didn’t include J,10 because it’s very unlikely. The hero is holding a J and there is one on the board meaning the likelihood of the villain having one is super low.
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Great play by villain. Diamond or spade river and he gets the fold
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How would this ever be a fold? Double suited board
I had an extremely similar situation last week actually. I was oop with Js9s Front door clubs on the Jack high flop in an SRP from IP. Jack high flop and I donked for like 1/2 (this is something I've noticed will help you get rid of people who don't belong in your pot if your multiway and oop. And will also lyk if theres any monsters hiding in the weeds)
Anyway, Turn put backdoor hearts out Went ! / RAISE / call. River bricked everything expect for specifically 8h9h catching a backdoor straight on 7d.. I checked... V jammed covering me.. I felt that his turn raise really kinda skewed him towards turning some kind of combo draw (the way v did here actually) and I just didn't believe him. Called. He flashed Qh9h my way (we do have a little history but not a great deal) and mucked I think he just didn't believe I sniffed it out. Top pair held and that was that.
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Villain is terrible. How can you say he is a good player. How does A10 off suit ever jam the river. You're never getting folds after hero calls the turn
Is it not obvious that the villain has the 10 of spades in his hand, if so is it not a call. Because King 10 of spades, would not raise so much on the turn?
Villain has a ten and he is thus blocking the nut straight
Villain got in that messy situation by calling the flop. That’s his big mistake. When hero calls turn, he should never bet the river the odds to call are too good. Hell even KK or AQ could find a call
Ship it on the turn.
What why? Only better calls. He loses all that value.
@@mrhumble2937 combo draws are calling
@@joncorb540 even tho they are behind?
You dont call turn to fold river. Snap call on river with a brick. 2-3 minutes is excessive.
I'd definitely call. I'm at the turn. Seems like a draw. If it's a value why would he go all in?
I guess 99 or 44 trying to get value if you are drawing
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This is a jam turn 100 imo
Wouldnt really say hero. Pretty good hand. 😊
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At 13.09 guess the guy has Q 10 spades
I would have folded. I’ll never be good at this game
I would bet $1500 on turn.
right on!
I Dealt This Hand.
nobody believes you.
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If you arent calling with top two are you just calling with sets? Villain reppin straight missed flush draw or set of nines
Bet he had KQ Spades
Was wrong :(
i PUT HIM ON A LOWER 2 PAIR
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