Alternative Ground Balance tricks- Do they improve Simplex performance?
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- On the Simplex+ Users group on Facebook, a discussion was had about different tricks to try with Ground Balance, to help quiet the Simplex chatter, or to improve vdi stability.
These included: NO ground balance- GB 90, and ground balancing after turning detector manually to GB 0, then auto GB as ususal.
I tried out the tricks, including conventional ground balancing to compare. Tested using a 'walk about' and 5 signals located in my own garden.
Do the tricks make a difference? You be the judge.
For those who would like to just hear the signals, one after the other, (with different gb methods) please see the mini test video that follows this one.
I want to thank you for all the SIMPLEX videos I have just recently purchased one and your videos have been so helpful. I had used one for a day in the past, it's what got me to wanting one. I had just very little knowledge about it and you videos helped me out a bunch, again THANK YOU!
Aww, thank you so much. Your comments are why I do this channel. I'm not in it for fame or fortune, I just want to help people have the best experience they can, with a terrific, well priced, feature heavy metal detector. Thank you again for your kind words. Good hunting out there! :)
I find your videos extremely helpful. I've been into this a little over a year and very hard around hear to become close with any detectors locally for hands on insight. Been struggling learning this machine. (My second detector only because I should have went with waterproof to begin with) thank goodness for videos. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you Jen. This one is less technique and more 'test out some ideas that folk were swearing by' kind of video. I remember trying to work out the Simplex and detecting when I first started, and I had no one to ask. Some groups were supportive, and sometimes it was just a member of a group (Terry Knipschield on facebook, and on youtube Tim Rodgers) that were particulary helpful. Some of the groups people we awful. I want to help people avoid that, and enjoy their machines, it is such a great hobby! Let me know if I can help with any questions you have, and let me know how you get on! :)
Thank you so much. I may have to hit you up on questions as I get out there more. I have been in most of the land situations and creeks and rivers. Lol I can't figure if I just go to where the junk is or still not understanding the tones. But I'll get there with help from great people like you. I have asked a few on Facebook they have been helping but seeing it in a video to which you can refer back to is helpful.
Please ask away, I am happy to help if I am able. Sometimes, if your site is previously undetected, you have to dig the junk to get to the good stuff. It can be hard for the detector to ‘see’ the desirable items over the junky (iron and aluminium) ones.
There also comes a tipping point, well for me there was, when I decided I was confident in my assessment that an item was junk and I would leave it. This freed up more time for locating the signals I did want. It is a personal decision, and you must feel confident in your choices or they will haunt you at 3am (I should have dug that, it was a gold necklace- I’m sure! will appear in your dreams 😆 ). I still check myself and my choices every so often, to make sure my ear is still tuned in. And I always do in a new location, because signals change depending on the environment they are in. You’ve been doing this a year, so you will now recognise things you could only dream of identifying when you started.
Good luck out there, let me know how you get on, and please ask away about certain environments. :)
@@thesimplexguru1263 Thank you for your kind words Lori. You are bound to encounter detractors, rudeness, and numb belligerence from some folk in the hobby. Totally ignore these troglodytes Lori. ..Some wee while ago, one of them implied that the F75/T2 platforms were, 'Cheap and cheerful' MDs, from the (£600 new) ,mid-range; absolutely NON Professional ranks. The dull bugger simply showed his low- level of metal detecting 'numbness'... I did not waste my time informing him that the F75 has been around for ten years; it originally cost £1,000 inc head-phones, and that after selling millions of them, First Texas could afford to clear out its stocks of them. To attempt to educate such people would, in itself, be most 'un-professional'?......Stay safe ATVB.
Thankful for videos, just share my thoughts. I live in west Texas and the ground mineralization changes dramatically every few feet, for sure less chatter and falsing without ground balancing. The over all depth doesn't seem to be lesson. If soil is more constant I would ground balance. But in adverse soil conditions like here in west Texas the simplex handles the changing mineralization conditions excellent.
Great informative vids for me a newby. Brilliant
Excellent Lori. An un-balanced 'any thing' can never be stable: not a chance!. For me, the greatest of care needs to be applied in finding a 'clean' spot for the ground balancing procedure. If your MD mineralisation vdi shows high mineralisation, then GB on a mid to low gain ( sensitivity) setting. If the ground is not heavily mineralised do a GB on a higher gain level. In other words, GB your MD according to the gain that is required to hunt in each scenario relevant to it's ' fog'/ 'chattiness' ( mineralisation)....I hope this helps.
Ground balance 00.0 and PUMPING is perfect mode
In xp ground 60 and pumping!!!! Perfect mode GB !!! 👍👍👍✌✌✌💪💪
My simplex amazed me, little tiny alu foil 25 cm deep , love the machine. My black adda is coming this week, and gloves and a search bag for my pin pointer and finds.
Hi there. I was detecting on a beach today. Simplex was in beach mode and I did a ground Ballance. It showed 2.8 is that ok?
I have metaldetected about 10y had a simplex about a year and hunted 300 400 hours with it so far the simplex is very deep when it works . Need to grounbalance the simplex every 5 minutes or reset and grounbalance it hates the garrett pinpointer and thats an oversight from simplex team..Inteference from pinpointer seems to throw of grounbalance really like a update on the that fixes this if possible its an issue..Otherwise i really like the simplex .Thank u for a very good channel
Wonderful comment, thank you very much. :) The Simplex sure does hate pinpointers.
I use the pulsedive because of the linked auto mute feature. It's a good pinpointer but if I'm honest, I'd prefer the nokta pointer (if it had same auto mute feature). I like its simplicity and size more than the pulsedive, although I hasten to add- the pulsedive is an excellent pinpointer.
The ground balance change is new to me, but I haven't been watching for it. I will now. Thank you for the tip! Hair hunting and best of luck. :)
I have a question. When I ground balance My sp 24 coil it is always drastically lower than my 11 inch coil. On the exact same piece of ground my sp 24 coil will ground balance at 44 and my 11 inch coil will ground balance at 93. It doesn’t matter where i go detecting at. My small coil always ground balances about 45-50 numbers below my 11 inch coil. Is this normal ?
Hi! So what is Your conclusion ? Any difference between GB from 90 and from 0? I hunt on the beach mostly, when ground changes from dry to wet it is necessary to do GB; if totally wet then I set to 0 manually (as the user manual says) but range is quite low. Do You have any suggestion on improving depth in wet sand conditions?
Hi Thunderbee, thanks for your comments. I’ve just rewatched both videos and I can say that no matter what method I did, it found the targets. I don’t feel any of the methods made the Simplex chatter less, but then with the sp 24 coil, I don’t think the chatter is bad anyway.
I did find the turn on and go (gb 90) less sensitive to the deep target, and it falsed more (ringing iron when there was none). The vdi was definitely more stable on the auto ground balance, on all items, yet I would expect that, the vdi on 90, on the deep object was not much use at all, yet on the auto ground balance (both) it was settling into where I would expect copper alloy. The cat foil packet depth was wrong on all methods. The grommet depth was best on the two auto gb methods.
So all in all- if you feel going to 0 first before Auto gb helps with chatter, then go for it. I don’t see a big difference. I wouldn’t advise leaving on 90 from turning on, certainly not in my soil. It does impact performance, although I found the targets, I may not have dug the button if I only had the 90 gb information. Hope this helps. I’ll answer the sand question in a separate reply :)
Have you tried a manual gb, on beach, on the wet sand? I find it usually comes in 0.5 or so on my beaches. I don’t think the .5 will make much difference to performance. Improving depth in wet sand is tricky. Try all metal, if you can stand the hum, it may be a good option for you. Also, using an sp 24 coil on 2.77, full sensitivity on field (after 0 GB in beach) will give you the top performance the machine is capable of. What coil and version are you using now? :)
@@thesimplexguru1263 thanx for the answers 😀 I have a standard coil and 2.78 soft. When I search on wet sand just by the shore with GB set to 0 it seems so shallow. Or maybe I need more patience to find a good signal. In dry sand coins are easy to find. Coin signal is always stable, bottle caps are jumpy 20-50-70 all around.
@@thesimplexguru1263 As for the beach I prefer allmetal mode - humm is ok as it lets me know the machine is working 😆 and I will not miss some funky iron - can be something interesting.
hey lori!! Im thinking on buying my first pinpointer, and the pulse dive seems like the best choice, could you make a video about it please? it would be very helpfull !
Hi LT, I will certainly do that, and discuss the pros and cons of it. I think it is a great PinPointer, and I wouldn’t want a different one, but it does have its issues. I will be absolutely honest and say I do not use it to the fullness of it’s ability. It works for me, so I haven’t spent lots of time adjusting it. But, ace idea, thank you. I was asked to make a video on it during lockdown, but personal circumstances prevented that. Thankfully things are different just now, so perfect time to make that video! Thanks for the idea :)
@@thesimplexguru1263 awesome! thanks a lot lori !!
Very interesting video My friend :)