I have to agree with almost everyone's individual lists. The RAP4 468 definitely should have been on the Defcon list. The Lok-Bolt anti chop system and anti ball drop system put it in the top 5 for sure. This is not coming from a sponsored bias but it's honestly my favorite marker. I was using the 468 before RAP4/MCS ever signed me.
Honestly, they probably wouldn't have sponsored you if you hadn't already been a huge fan lol. I'm a huge Milsig fan, but I think the 468 should have been on the list too. Probably remove the t8.1 rather than the TMC though. 8.1s are super annoying to maintain.
Qaeta I don't think the Tippman TMC should be on here either, it's probably the lowest of the low when it comes to magfed. Not even FSR compatible. The new Valken magfed gun is in the same price range, and it's FSR compatible.
Hey!!! I watch ur vids. I think the reason the mcs 468 is not on here because of the price. The lowest i can get the ptrwith air in stock is still 900 and the t15 is only 500.
I got a Tippman TMC, only been in 2 or 3 games with it, and I absolutely love it. The only thing I didnt like is I had a big air tank, so I couldnt aim it effectively. Other then that, I love this marker.
I was a little sad to see 2 pistols here (would have been nice to see the TGR2 up there!) but solid review nonetheless. Definitely agree with the M17 in here.
I used to own a T-15, I sold it and replaced it with the TMC, mostly for the reason I didn't like the air canister being in the stock of the marker. However I never had an issue with either marker performing poorly on a course.
I would have pick the 468 or any tacamo markers over the M17. especially the CQC wich is a pain in th ass. it shoots full auto but the air tank runs empty really quick. ans it's fragile. when it came out, lot of player broke the pistol grip or the handguard in a normal use just by squeezing it a bit too much. but what i like about Milsig is that they go out of their confort zone and try different style like they did with the SMG.
You beat me to it lol of course of course also don't get me wrong the tacamo vortex thier both empressive ... Note: Rap4 changed to Mcsusm.com for those that don't know
A shoutout for the Tacamo Hurricane. I've been using mine for quite some time now, fantastic marker. Uses helix mags which are reliable, cheap and durable. Mine has E-Grip so it's 15bps full auto, and best of all it uses the awesome Phenom flexvalve!
I’m sponsored by Mcs and I almost always 3D print t15 mag wells for all my guns the helix and d mags have to many parts when you need to clean or just take apart it’s a pain in the ass and they break super easily
A plus with the T8.1, (or a negative, depending on your personal preference), is mounting the 12-gram CO2 cartridge in the magazine, rather than the body. Fresh mag = fresh gas.
I am Cave Man why not both? Most firearm enthusiast have more than one. I play almost every weekend so a marker thats much more reliable and shoots betteris a good buy imo. I bought the cqb however which is 850 and much more affordable
I am Cave Man well with real firearms, you can't shoot ppl for fun. I don't understand your logic. those are two completely different purposes. Just saying bud...
Great review, the only thing that I would like to know in a more extended way - is which part metal and which is plastic in both First Strike and Milsig rifles.
what you could do with the tcm is to take a remote line and mount a smaller size tank up to 12 oz on the bottom rails to make it look like an underbarrel shotty or GL, just an idea for you.
I my self have a Tiberius T15 I haven't used it yet cause I've been busy, but I know it's going to perform great! And before I use it i slowly buying the aftermarket parts that I want to use and make the gun my own unique paintball weapon of choice :)
My t8.1 shoots at 30 joules which is about 2 foot pounds of power, broken bones, internal bleeding and stuff like that. With that said I wouldn't use it on a paintball field unless I tune down the power a little.
if this list was for cheaper options (because of the absence of the DAM) then I would have put at least one Spyder MR series marker in there, probably the dual-feeding, first strike ready (FSR), fully automatic E-MR5, which can use an FSR rifled barrel to make it into a versatile sniper rifle.
also a few days ago, mislig announced a new rifle to their m line: the m5. its does everything the smg does AND everything the cqc does, plus allows for custom furniture not unlike the First Strike T15. including the stock mechanical full auto
Just like Alabasterslim I love the t15 and the m17. I have both of them the only problem I have with the milsig is when you shoot first strike rounds and you get a misfire the air leaks.
How popular is magfed paintball catching on? Got out of paintball because it was all about Speedball. "Recreational" paintball was no longer in fashion it seemed. Was considering Airsoft, but too easy to cheat, plastic pellets don't wash away, and like paintball, not a fan of the 100 plus rounds. This is much closer to reality. Biggest exceptions being range and a sheet of plywood actually provides cover instead of concealment. This is something I can get into.
I'm in SoCal, and the majority of the fields here are mainly Woodsball. I never truly realized how amazing paintball is until I played magfed. It's so much more satisfying having to line up the perfect one shot, instead of slinging 40 balls praying one clips your target.
Kevin Sanders check out Socalpaintballmeetup.com for a great group of players that play at just about every park. Also, I play "outlaw" woodsball on the northern side of the valley of you every wanna come out.
Literally just getting back into this after 25 years, what is he referring to when he said the Tippmann TMC doesn't shoot 'first strikes'. What are first strikes?
Definitely should have only had one pistol. The 8.1 is amazing but the tipx is just overall more upgradable and popular. I was expecting and feel like a better list would be the tipx, m17, t15, 468 and hurricane
you forgot the tacamo kits like the storm, blizzard, thunderbolt etc. I can only speak for the storm personally because that's what I own. it is so freaking durable it will blow your mind. it's basically a Tippmann 98 with a new shell though it is nice to have a magfed marker that works 100 percent of the time
I have the tipman m4 paintball gun, it jams and the mags don’t work, I’ll be sending it to Tipton this summer and see if they can’t fix it, it seems like a good gun but I think they just need to work on the mags
I have the tmc. it's good for what it is. Any ideas, I am looking at going into a better magfed gun. why is the dye dam matrix so overpriced? what about the tiberous t15? or m17?
How about: Tacamo Bolt Tacamo Blizzard 468/PTR I agree with the Tiberius/First Strike markers, but only if you have the money and are willing to drop $85 on a box of 250 FSR. I think a lot of people get into magfed because quality options are significantly cheaper. As for the TMC, I'd never recommend it to anyone. It's the Hi-Point of magfed; cheap but not great.
The 468 is a great gun, but the price point makes it out of reach for a good amount of players which is why it isn't on this list. I mean you can buy a M17 with all the mags, accessories you need for under $600. The T15 a bit more but it has a lot of upgrades and features that justify its price better. The PTR 468 is $980 which is very high for the amount features you get.
funny thing is I have the milsig m 17 which I've tried with the regular magazine and now have the novatech dmag magwell, and it doesn't work right compared to my spyder mr5 which is super reliable and also shots fs.
Nothing by Rap4/MCS on this list made it a bummer, probably should have made it a top 10. Not to late of course to make another top 5 mag fed paintball guns video, just a suggestion.
im with you, tank in stock makes the marker heavy and takes up room to collaps the stock for tighter cqb games. tank on the bak gives more weight distribution and often a larger tank for more games between fills.
The tgr2 is so convenient, super smart design, and has a great feel to it. Doesn't feel like cheap plastic, and is reliable like a tippmann. Highly recommend. Wasn't a fan of the M17. But again it's completely up to the user of what fits their profile and play style. But take it from me, owner of one it's a great choice.
I've owned the Milsig cqc and the elite. I'm not sure which model you had, but honestly, I sold the cqc very shortly after buying it because the air efficiency was just terrible and the barrel...idk what they were thinking with the barrel. The elite is a great rifle though. You can make it through like five magazines off a 13ci and I've replaced all the polymer rails with real steel G36 ones. How's the accuracy of the Maxtact? I'll admit that the mags definitely look better given they went with the collarless design :)
The accuracy is great haven't try first strikes yet. But yeah I've had the same problem with my previous cqc. Had two and both leaked air brand new too. Returned those and got the tgr2 directly from manufacturers. Very nice guys there with bundle deals to get exactly what you want. Mags are great. Gun one in a blue moon jammed but that partly was because of double cocking the marker but an amazing gun for the price can't go wrong.
Ok, sweet. I'll definitely check it out in the future :) The M17 elite hasn't leaked air once on me so maybe I'm just lucky. If it could shoot like two more magazines, it'd be perfect, but that's mainly my only gripe about the rifle. Most, if not all barrel breaks and jams are a result of the magazines jamming (but it's mainly due to poor paint anyway, 99% of the time it works flawless) It's also accurate as hell.
The T15 pretty much sucks out of the box. I had to get a dozen games in before I worked out the quirks, mostly because of poor reliability due to crappy magazines. But, with a little patience, testing and ghetto rigging it turns into a solid marker.
Got a TGR1, love it and has been my main marker for nearly 2 years now. Would love to be able to find spare parts easier, not wanting to retire it due to one bad part. Oh well, working fine now.
This video made me buy the M17 for my Animal Protection Agency We ordered RIOT BALLS. For when we have to STOP ANIMAL ATTACKS or when we have to put some sense into animal abusers. Also we keep 1 mag of paint and 1 mag of Riot. So if we to ID 1 specific attakcing animal Thank you
I absoulutely hate the clamshell type pistols... I had a TPX and so did a friend of mine. They jammed all the time no matter what paint you tried and every time you had to pick it apart with little tiny tiny bits flying everywhere to clean it and it took forever to do. It did not take long before one of those bits got lost and you no longer had a functioning gun (well the markers never did function to begin with). Do anyone make a magazine fed milsim paint-ball marker that is easy to field strip and clean . More like a real gun without overly complicated mechanics and tiny bits flying everywhere when you do a field strip?
Cool. Anyone who argues is just giving an opinion. Imo, hurricane over m17. I know to many people with complaints about m17. Complaints about hurricane/mkpII are are rare
We knew when we made this we would be flooded with comments on "wtf why is this thing here and not this!?" and honestly that was kinda the reason it was a top 5 vid and not a top 10, we like the comment discussions. As for the hurricane, up in Canada they are exceptionally rare, so we just honestly had no idea how well they performed, and if we could even get one to do the video on. I'm for sure gonna check one out if I ever see it at a game.
they are actually the same size, but they are shaped like a bullet and have fins so they spin like a bullet. They are essentially shaped paintballs that fly a lot further than normal spherical paintballs.
I’ve been hearing from some friends that have had/have T15s that discourages buying one due to air leaks internally. Anyone have suggestions on whether I shouldn’t get it, or if they’re just throwing their markers recklessly?
I saw a video on UA-cam about this not too long ago that some people just connect the air improperly and that's what causes leaks. I know this is late but just throwing it out there.
Just out of curiosity, why did you not include the Tippman TCR? Any major issue/complaints? Out of all the mag fed paintball guns I've seen, it's been my favorite; just wanted to known your opinion (or anyone's for that matter).
Thomas Akins The TCR is just an upgraded Tipx with less customization. The TCR was my first paintball gun, and it was extremely hard on paint, and it was way too time consuming to take apart, due to the clamshell design, when you inevitably broke paint. I did love using it, but I prefer my Tipx over the TCR any day.
It's kinda obvious that they don't have a sales contract with MCS as far as the 468 and Maxtact R-Series goes, but limiting the video to 3 brands is weak for a "non-bias" Top 5 list. Especially since there wasn't even any mention of runner ups
I have to agree with almost everyone's individual lists. The RAP4 468 definitely should have been on the Defcon list. The Lok-Bolt anti chop system and anti ball drop system put it in the top 5 for sure. This is not coming from a sponsored bias but it's honestly my favorite marker. I was using the 468 before RAP4/MCS ever signed me.
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Honestly, they probably wouldn't have sponsored you if you hadn't already been a huge fan lol. I'm a huge Milsig fan, but I think the 468 should have been on the list too. Probably remove the t8.1 rather than the TMC though. 8.1s are super annoying to maintain.
Nightmare PB You are the MAN bro!!!!!!
Qaeta I don't think the Tippman TMC should be on here either, it's probably the lowest of the low when it comes to magfed. Not even FSR compatible. The new Valken magfed gun is in the same price range, and it's FSR compatible.
Hey!!! I watch ur vids. I think the reason the mcs 468 is not on here because of the price. The lowest i can get the ptrwith air in stock is still 900 and the t15 is only 500.
TMC now offers air through stock
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Caca
Might go so far as to wear a white shirt when you're showcasing markers that blend in with your shirt
I got a Tippman TMC, only been in 2 or 3 games with it, and I absolutely love it. The only thing I didnt like is I had a big air tank, so I couldnt aim it effectively. Other then that, I love this marker.
Use a remote tank line by like Ninja and a tank pouch/ holder. I use the magfed part still after a year and that helps.
You can get a lighter tank or use a remote line like I and many other do
I was a little sad to see 2 pistols here (would have been nice to see the TGR2 up there!) but solid review nonetheless. Definitely agree with the M17 in here.
I used to own a T-15, I sold it and replaced it with the TMC, mostly for the reason I didn't like the air canister being in the stock of the marker. However I never had an issue with either marker performing poorly on a course.
I would have pick the 468 or any tacamo markers over the M17. especially the CQC wich is a pain in th ass. it shoots full auto but the air tank runs empty really quick. ans it's fragile. when it came out, lot of player broke the pistol grip or the handguard in a normal use just by squeezing it a bit too much.
but what i like about Milsig is that they go out of their confort zone and try different style like they did with the SMG.
MCS/Rap4 468 should've been on there
Andy Hart My thoughts exactly. 👌
You beat me to it lol of course of course also don't get me wrong the tacamo vortex thier both empressive ... Note: Rap4 changed to Mcsusm.com for those that don't know
A shoutout for the Tacamo Hurricane. I've been using mine for quite some time now, fantastic marker. Uses helix mags which are reliable, cheap and durable. Mine has E-Grip so it's 15bps full auto, and best of all it uses the awesome Phenom flexvalve!
I’m sponsored by Mcs and I almost always 3D print t15 mag wells for all my guns the helix and d mags have to many parts when you need to clean or just take apart it’s a pain in the ass and they break super easily
A plus with the T8.1, (or a negative, depending on your personal preference), is mounting the 12-gram CO2 cartridge in the magazine, rather than the body. Fresh mag = fresh gas.
I love the tmc and I personally don't like the air tanks in the stock. I rather have the weight on my back and less on the rifle
xeno cyde same I just bought a remote line and a 13/3000 air tank
Do you guys recommend co2 or air for this particular gun?
@@cell9899 air always air.
My list:
1. Dye Dam
2. Fs t15
3. 468
4. T8.1
5. M17
Pistol Fury but the dye dam is like 1500$
ALLhailTHEfail1 anytime a person spends $1500 on a toy gun might as well get a real one. Just my opinion
I am Cave Man why not both? Most firearm enthusiast have more than one. I play almost every weekend so a marker thats much more reliable and shoots betteris a good buy imo. I bought the cqb however which is 850 and much more affordable
I am Cave Man well with real firearms, you can't shoot ppl for fun. I don't understand your logic. those are two completely different purposes. Just saying bud...
Pistol Fury
Great review, the only thing that I would like to know in a more extended way - is which part metal and which is plastic in both First Strike and Milsig rifles.
1 468
2 TGR-2
3 TCR
4 TiPX
5 fs-T15
Shadow idk if it's fair to put tipx and tcr in same thing
Shadow I think the M17 is better than the TCR.
3:49, super old review and this is coming out late I know, but Riptide Paintball has a video on how to mod a TMC to shoot first strike rounds! :D
Definitely the rap4 468, it has all the features of the others chosen and because it has a split receiver, it’s super quick and easy to maintain.
For anyone watching now in 2022 the tmc now has a air through stock option and conversion kit
lack of tgr2 is a bit odd since it's a very reliable platform, for better then the 8.1. everything else though, solid.
what you could do with the tcm is to take a remote line and mount a smaller size tank up to 12 oz on the bottom rails to make it look like an underbarrel shotty or GL, just an idea for you.
I my self have a Tiberius T15 I haven't used it yet cause I've been busy, but I know it's going to perform great! And before I use it i slowly buying the aftermarket parts that I want to use and make the gun my own unique paintball weapon of choice :)
Tiberius T15 baby !!!!🔫🔫🔫
full auto version is out cost $200 more than the T15. so happy with my chose
My t8.1 shoots at 30 joules which is about 2 foot pounds of power, broken bones, internal bleeding and stuff like that. With that said I wouldn't use it on a paintball field unless I tune down the power a little.
if this list was for cheaper options (because of the absence of the DAM) then I would have put at least one Spyder MR series marker in there, probably the dual-feeding, first strike ready (FSR), fully automatic E-MR5, which can use an FSR rifled barrel to make it into a versatile sniper rifle.
TMC was a good choice. Sure, it's new on the market and doesn't shoot first strike, but it's a great marker for the price and is newcomer friendly.
like FS much? I use the tmc and love it. actually like having a larger air tank, more shots without switching bottles
I also agree I fired a TMC in caparison to my own TGR MK 2 nowhere near as good.
engler customs ( creator of the coveted tipx sarge kit) has made a kit to allow the TMC to shoot FSR, and tipx mags.
have a friend who made a tipx into a sniper, made a full stock and barrel. looks just like the AWP from counter strike
I've always wanted to try sniping with a FSR TIPX.
But the AWP doesnt have a handle
My list-
• first strike m17
• Tippmann TCR
• dye dam
• Tippmann TMC
• Tippmann TIPX
also a few days ago, mislig announced a new rifle to their m line: the m5. its does everything the smg does AND everything the cqc does, plus allows for custom furniture not unlike the First Strike T15. including the stock mechanical full auto
Just like Alabasterslim I love the t15 and the m17. I have both of them the only problem I have with the milsig is when you shoot first strike rounds and you get a misfire the air leaks.
How popular is magfed paintball catching on? Got out of paintball because it was all about Speedball. "Recreational" paintball was no longer in fashion it seemed. Was considering Airsoft, but too easy to cheat, plastic pellets don't wash away, and like paintball, not a fan of the 100 plus rounds. This is much closer to reality. Biggest exceptions being range and a sheet of plywood actually provides cover instead of concealment.
This is something I can get into.
colemanhill down here in South Carolina, woodsball is becoming popular
So that's what they call it. Good to know its made it to the east coast.
I'm in SoCal, and the majority of the fields here are mainly Woodsball. I never truly realized how amazing paintball is until I played magfed. It's so much more satisfying having to line up the perfect one shot, instead of slinging 40 balls praying one clips your target.
Dude I was thinking that 😂
Kevin Sanders check out Socalpaintballmeetup.com for a great group of players that play at just about every park. Also, I play "outlaw" woodsball on the northern side of the valley of you every wanna come out.
Can u put prices
Tippman TiPx is best on list.
The Tippmann rifle, you can get the air through stock and it does take 1st strike
Literally just getting back into this after 25 years, what is he referring to when he said the Tippmann TMC doesn't shoot 'first strikes'. What are first strikes?
Shaped Projectiles, they are rifled to help carry more accuracy over distance
468 where's it at? That has to have some type of credit being that it has the revolutionary lok bolt system
by price maintenance, and Fullmetal style, I chose the TGR II family
Definitely should have only had one pistol. The 8.1 is amazing but the tipx is just overall more upgradable and popular. I was expecting and feel like a better list would be the tipx, m17, t15, 468 and hurricane
you forgot the tacamo kits like the storm, blizzard, thunderbolt etc. I can only speak for the storm personally because that's what I own. it is so freaking durable it will blow your mind. it's basically a Tippmann 98 with a new shell though it is nice to have a magfed marker that works 100 percent of the time
I have the tipman m4 paintball gun, it jams and the mags don’t work, I’ll be sending it to Tipton this summer and see if they can’t fix it, it seems like a good gun but I think they just need to work on the mags
I just bought a T15 and so far I absolutely love it. :) I can't wait to upgrade it to the marker I want it to be!
I have the tmc. it's good for what it is. Any ideas, I am looking at going into a better magfed gun.
why is the dye dam matrix so overpriced?
what about the tiberous t15?
or m17?
Greatly G i have a 468 and i love it mags are cheap and it shoots fsr if you want that i would highly recommend it
Eric elnger actually made a custom magwell or adapter to run FS and zeta/12 rounder and even the milsig Tempest drum mag
How about:
Tacamo Bolt
Tacamo Blizzard
468/PTR
I agree with the Tiberius/First Strike markers, but only if you have the money and are willing to drop $85 on a box of 250 FSR. I think a lot of people get into magfed because quality options are significantly cheaper.
As for the TMC, I'd never recommend it to anyone. It's the Hi-Point of magfed; cheap but not great.
hey how much is the price of the first gun u can sell in kenya how much
i still have the first tac 8 pistol. haven't played in years. this was a wild video. very cool thanks.
You can get a stock with an airtank for the tmc
Everything RAP4, their magfed handguns and rifles are unbeatable!
The 468 is a great gun, but the price point makes it out of reach for a good amount of players which is why it isn't on this list. I mean you can buy a M17 with all the mags, accessories you need for under $600. The T15 a bit more but it has a lot of upgrades and features that justify its price better. The PTR 468 is $980 which is very high for the amount features you get.
funny thing is I have the milsig m 17 which I've tried with the regular magazine and now have the novatech dmag magwell, and it doesn't work right compared to my spyder mr5 which is super reliable and also shots fs.
tgr2 should have been on it
Nothing by Rap4/MCS on this list made it a bummer, probably should have made it a top 10. Not to late of course to make another top 5 mag fed paintball guns video, just a suggestion.
whats so great about having the tank on the buttstock? i find it really uncomfortable.
im with you, tank in stock makes the marker heavy and takes up room to collaps the stock for tighter cqb games.
tank on the bak gives more weight distribution and often a larger tank for more games between fills.
They now have an option for 13ci 3K hpa in the butt stock
What’s your honest opinion on the PB VKS Carbine rifle comparing it against the top paintball markers?
Really would like to see a comparison to the milsig M17 A2 rap4 468 and the FS T15
Can I make that tippmann tipx into a cat?🤣🤣🤣
Lol at the tmc being weirdly efficient
its still a dressed up tippmann 98 but i take the TMC every day before a 98.
Nice to see the two problems with the tmc have since been solved
when did tiberius change their name to fist strike?
Last year.
Get a Maxtact tgr2. Will be the best decision you will ever make.
Do you like it more than the M17 line of rifles?
The tgr2 is so convenient, super smart design, and has a great feel to it. Doesn't feel like cheap plastic, and is reliable like a tippmann. Highly recommend. Wasn't a fan of the M17. But again it's completely up to the user of what fits their profile and play style. But take it from me, owner of one it's a great choice.
I've owned the Milsig cqc and the elite. I'm not sure which model you had, but honestly, I sold the cqc very shortly after buying it because the air efficiency was just terrible and the barrel...idk what they were thinking with the barrel. The elite is a great rifle though. You can make it through like five magazines off a 13ci and I've replaced all the polymer rails with real steel G36 ones. How's the accuracy of the Maxtact? I'll admit that the mags definitely look better given they went with the collarless design :)
The accuracy is great haven't try first strikes yet. But yeah I've had the same problem with my previous cqc. Had two and both leaked air brand new too. Returned those and got the tgr2 directly from manufacturers. Very nice guys there with bundle deals to get exactly what you want. Mags are great. Gun one in a blue moon jammed but that partly was because of double cocking the marker but an amazing gun for the price can't go wrong.
Ok, sweet. I'll definitely check it out in the future :) The M17 elite hasn't leaked air once on me so maybe I'm just lucky. If it could shoot like two more magazines, it'd be perfect, but that's mainly my only gripe about the rifle. Most, if not all barrel breaks and jams are a result of the magazines jamming (but it's mainly due to poor paint anyway, 99% of the time it works flawless) It's also accurate as hell.
maxtract or dye dam should have been on the list
How is the tippmann the smallest....FSC 8g is nearly half its size and weight
The T15 pretty much sucks out of the box. I had to get a dozen games in before I worked out the quirks, mostly because of poor reliability due to crappy magazines. But, with a little patience, testing and ghetto rigging it turns into a solid marker.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO we did not make the cut. #sadface
What happened to the one to one round?
My TGR36C is #1 magfed for me.
Maxtact.ca hahhaha I’m a customer !!!
Glad to see you here, love ur guns btw!
Got a TGR1, love it and has been my main marker for nearly 2 years now. Would love to be able to find spare parts easier, not wanting to retire it due to one bad part. Oh well, working fine now.
Just want to find the right hand guard to go with it cause I want a longer one with a longer barrel
This video made me buy the M17 for my Animal Protection Agency
We ordered RIOT BALLS. For when we have to STOP ANIMAL ATTACKS or when we have to put some sense into animal abusers.
Also we keep 1 mag of paint and 1 mag of Riot. So if we to ID 1 specific attakcing animal
Thank you
T15 already has full auto capability in one of it's options. More expensive but not as expensive as buying the $200 kit to mod them into full auto.
do you know any pistols smaller than the tipx and 8,1. that is good and reliable.
Any particular reason the 468 and TGR2 were not on this list? They're kind of on par with the M17 and T15.
I absoulutely hate the clamshell type pistols... I had a TPX and so did a friend of mine. They jammed all the time no matter what paint you tried and every time you had to pick it apart with little tiny tiny bits flying everywhere to clean it and it took forever to do. It did not take long before one of those bits got lost and you no longer had a functioning gun (well the markers never did function to begin with). Do anyone make a magazine fed milsim paint-ball marker that is easy to field strip and clean . More like a real gun without overly complicated mechanics and tiny bits flying everywhere when you do a field strip?
Where can I find pouches that fit the mags ?!!
Ik this is an old video but you guys should cover moder combat sports’ markers they are very good
this n day.
1. Dye DAM.
2. Milsig m17
3. First Strike TFS15
4. Maxtact TGR's
5. Tippmann's TCR
The Dye DAM is overpriced beyond sense
Rap4 on top of that.. But nice list... Thanks
Not a fan of the m17 but it I like the full Auto mechanical trigger
Cool. Anyone who argues is just giving an opinion. Imo, hurricane over m17. I know to many people with complaints about m17. Complaints about hurricane/mkpII are are rare
We knew when we made this we would be flooded with comments on "wtf why is this thing here and not this!?" and honestly that was kinda the reason it was a top 5 vid and not a top 10, we like the comment discussions. As for the hurricane, up in Canada they are exceptionally rare, so we just honestly had no idea how well they performed, and if we could even get one to do the video on. I'm for sure gonna check one out if I ever see it at a game.
VICE Too Tall awesome job BTW. And thanks for the reply. Hopefully i make it into a store pretty soon!!
VICE Too Tall and you will see my 'cane if I ever get out to play with you all. I'd like to make it to honey badger this year. PRZ is on my list
What about dye DAM matrix or the empire defender??
What are the pros and cons of using a mag fed marker vs hopper fed markers
Mag fed for realism and hopper for lots of paint!
how many joule have those paintball gun?
Whats firststrike
they are actually the same size, but they are shaped like a bullet and have fins so they spin like a bullet. They are essentially shaped paintballs that fly a lot further than normal spherical paintballs.
Freezedriedkiwi oh okay i knew they are bullet like but thought they were smaller.
do mag fed guns have better accuracy then hopper fed guns?
just do remote line on TMC
Paintball people always look like this guy!
For the tippmann tmc can you put a hopper on it
I’ve been hearing from some friends that have had/have T15s that discourages buying one due to air leaks internally. Anyone have suggestions on whether I shouldn’t get it, or if they’re just throwing their markers recklessly?
Arul Santoshi I don’t have my own but I have done my research and know plenty of people who have them. From what I’ve heard it works great
eFinity thank you. Maybe liars or isolated cases
I saw a video on UA-cam about this not too long ago that some people just connect the air improperly and that's what causes leaks. I know this is late but just throwing it out there.
Just out of curiosity, why did you not include the Tippman TCR? Any major issue/complaints? Out of all the mag fed paintball guns I've seen, it's been my favorite; just wanted to known your opinion (or anyone's for that matter).
Thomas Akins The TCR is just an upgraded Tipx with less customization. The TCR was my first paintball gun, and it was extremely hard on paint, and it was way too time consuming to take apart, due to the clamshell design, when you inevitably broke paint. I did love using it, but I prefer my Tipx over the TCR any day.
I wanna know why the DAM wasn't on this list. Did you forget about it?
David Lowe I think it is because of its price. Even tought this isn't a list of cheaper magfed options.
David Lowe they don't carry any in their store. Pretty simple to figure it out. Yeah it's on their site but they don't have stock.
its good, but overpriced. (obviously, its dye)
It's kinda obvious that they don't have a sales contract with MCS as far as the 468 and Maxtact R-Series goes, but limiting the video to 3 brands is weak for a "non-bias" Top 5 list. Especially since there wasn't even any mention of runner ups
Do a review on the Tippmann TCR
If you do another one do the rap4 468
My list:
(Not in real order)
1.Milsig M17
2.FS T-15
3.MCS 468
4.Dye DAM
5.Carmatech Sar-12
Andy Hart you have all those guns right? cuzz if you made that list it's because you have them right?
How much does the last one cost?
Do top 5 pumps
hahha first thing i thought about him (actually it was "is he anorectic or something?"
hammer 7 bro
The TMC is now capable of having the air thru stock for anyone watching this late
The MCS/RAP4 Blizzard, and 468 should have made the list I feel.
theres another tipman witch has the co2 in the mag
Is the dye dm series discontinued now???
Price points would be nice.
I did the carbon fiber camouflage on my bt4 bangs he, on January 22 2014, before anybody else did it, I can prove it!!