The concept of a waterproof insulated seat (or kneeling pad) that can be packed away is great. A possible alternative to the Greenland wax might be a linseed oil and beeswax mixture, resulting in an oilcloth.
My son and I made a similar project using Reflectix and metal foil tape - both common homestore items. I think your idea folds up smaller. The Reflectix is an amazing thermal barrier and gives great padding for sitting and kneeling, but can be a little bulky unless you use it against or even to replace the frame sheet in your pack. Great work. I love DIY projects. Keep em coming!
What a neat idea, maybe after you put the grommets in you can hang it from the back of your shirt, so it is always at the ready when you go to sit down. Thanks for taking the time to share this. Peace, Reese
In the winter I use that mylar-bubble wrap stuff, Reflectix. You can get them at Home Depot, if you have Home Depot in the States.. It's super lightweight, waterproof, and insulates well... but it lacks a certain appearance... I like the wool, I think it would be a nice addition to that seat you have, between the canvas and the wool. Nice for kneeling.
I wax my Fjällräven pants, softshell jacket and the bottom of my Kajka backpack regularly. I like to use a hairdryer because it's not as messy and it's easier to see how evenly the fabric absorbs the wax. I have also used a camp fire to thicken the wax layer out on the mountain, which is great if you run into heavier rain than you expected. It's really great to see how proud you are of your projects. Keep it up!
I used to SnoSeal my leather boots with the same method as your waxing. Heat up the area to be waxed and using a rag dipped in the SnoSeal, wipe it onto the leather and watch it absorb. i still have a couple of pairs of those boots - waterproof and strong. This was back 30 years ago, before performance materials like Gore Tex were commonplace.
With a little more work, this could definitely be a limited run type of thing to fund the Black Owl Outdoors endeavours! I would definitely support it. If there's anyway you could get Fjallraven to send you some of their jackets and products for winter, it would be AWESOME if you could review those. I really would like one of your style reviews on their products. Your reviews have an uncut, genuine, and real feeling to them.
the idea for the seat is really nice. It looks lightweight and practical. I dont think the sewing job is bad at all. Perhaps instead of using cotton you might want to just use a couple of layers of tyvek. It's super lightweight, waterproof and durable too especially if doubled over. Anyways the beezewax coating is supposed to make things water resistant not waterproof so I wouldn't worry about a couple of water spots. You inspired me, I'm going to make something similar for my outings to the wilds.
Very nice I haven't read the other comments so if this idea was mentioned sorry for redundancy, I do think you should put tabs on the end not grommets and if you use some rope it could be an elevated hammock seat between trees and if you use marlin spikes on 2 sticks one on each side than it could bridge it and be very comfortable love the vids keep them coming.
thats a great idea. Me and a buddy just went backpacking in Yellowstone for a week, and something like this would have been nice for just a little cushion and protection from wet logs and ground. Thanks for the great video.
ive done this for years now with the same product. i find the best way to do it is putting the object on a table and force rubbing the wax into the fabrick. when you are done and see a thick layer use the hair dryer, use the heat from a fire or throw it into a tuble dryer. works wonders and usually holds up 4 wither monts for me. thanks for the great vidios
Nice one! You should make it like a pillow cover so you can stuff in a filling for insulation. You know fold it over and sow it close on 2 sides and leave one side open to fill in debris / leaves / a shirt / whatever to create an insulating space between you and the ground.
"Observe my foresight, I never venture fourth without my Macintosh square". That line is in the movie "A Room With A View" and is recited by Eleanor Lavish. Your Krik square is quite nice - I will order one when they show up on your site along side the tee shirts...
this is awesome. i've been trying to come up with a design similar to this as well, but i never thought to incorporate wool. if you add another layer of canvas, you can stuff it with debris and use it as a pillow/seat pad. you could also turn it inside out and have only waxed canvas exposed if the weather is real bad or you just want the canvas surface to work on. looks great!
Good quality hair dryer is what I use. It is a more reliable way to make sure everything is melted in evenly. I also go through the trouble of using mostly 100% beeswax. It isn't as easy to work with but I enjoy the results and smell. It does add weight, and in my case stiffness to the item. I have a cook kit bag that stands on it's own when empty for example heh.
Hair dryer takes too much time and might screw up your / her's dryer. I am using washer dryer with "refresh" program and it absolutely fantastic. You put your wax, slip here there...swipe swipe. ....just cover everything . . and then in to the machine and take it out in 10min. No hassle, all nicely covered and dissolved. There is nothing better to take care of the Fjallraven wax stuff then this method. Give it a try an let me know. Cheers, Mike
great idea, i carry a ground cloth that i love but it gets sticky . no worries in the winter, wax may get messy when its hot .... great stitching work and seat ... ..bill
I find not warming the wax before you apply it to the cloth and then using the iron to melt it on, has given me the best results with the very same wax you use. Here in Finland they sell reindeer hides for seats think I might get one. You don't have to have the whole hide just a cut out for a seat. Like your idea though. Looks like you are into your Fjällräven gear, when you start buy their stuff you can't stop. It's very addictive.
1-What sewing machine are you using? 2-What type of Needle and Threading are you using? 3- Did you get the grommet kit? The grommet on the ends would be a very nice touch, so I hope you do that. Also, I looked at your store for the first time today. I was surprised you are not making belts and selling them. It would be something a lot of guys would be interested in.
Such a great idea and very useful in many ways on outings. Looks great your sewing job and very nice design. I am sure as time goes you will master the water proofing if you haven't already. 👍🏻
Thanks for another beautiful video. I'm curious to hear how the water resistance works when pressed against wet ground/grass/snow, as opposed to simple splashing. I'm afraid it might get soaked notwithstanding the wax. Otherwise it's a beautiful piece of craftsmanship. Have you considered making it into a pouch (like a pillow-case) so that you can stuff it with dead leaves in the fall, or with your spare clothes in the winter, for added insulation? I think that would be a neat touch!
I wax my Fjallraven trousers that I use for hunting. I have put on 2 layers and it seems to do ok for about an hour of walking through knee high wet grass then the water starts to take hold. Will wax them again and maybe do 4 applications. Or I may just go back to cordura chaps of my gaiters. Or go to a 20% beeswax mix next batch. I like the project. I am sure it will be well liked on the cold days. I bought the thermarest sit pad and really like it, so much I won't give it up to look more bushcrafty. Maybe make a matching set of kneepads?
Have you ever tried using any of the wash in waterproofers like Nikwax into Fjällräven trousers. I haven't but just wonder if anyone had. I always use the wax.
I like the canvas /wool combo..........however it appears that the waterproofing needs improvements............dont think you really need any grommets.
Great job! I've thought about getting a canvas/leather log carrier from Amazon, and waxing it. Then it can be used for carrying firewood and sitting/kneeling. I like the addition of the wool though. Combining the two, by adding a leather handle at each end, would make it multi-functional and comfortable. Two or three layers of wool would help with comfort as well. I don't see a need for grommets. I'm alright at sewing, I'd like to make one of these. I'm guessing hyou waxed the canvas before sewing, right?
The only thing I don't like about wax is that it sometimes attracts bees, but that's a really neat idea :) Also does that pot have a name and where could I get one?
+Tac Blades Do you was some of your tents then or tarps? Furniture restores add paraffin to soften the wax and make it more pliable maybe that's why its added so it apply's more evenly.
I have made some canvas tarps,but very heavy. I mainly use it on pouches and bags i make, also things like dog coats. I make sure the fabric and beeswax is quite hot when i apply it then it goes on easy and is absorbed by the fibres. I use a dry iron to heat the fabric.
+Sabertooth707 Possibly in the future. Everything I make is the R&D aspect. Once I'm confident with my designs and techniques, then I can make them available for purchase. I wouldn't do it any other way.
possibly a survival backpack. have not made it yet. maybe some boots. I'm considering making a duster odd some sort. But I'm still pretty new to leather work. lol
Its well made I like it I use one of those foam mats, it doesn't need to be re/water proofed as it naturally water proof is comfy to sit on and insulates your butt lol
Neat. Now to make (1) a triangle seat for a wooden tripod pole seat, and you are se(a)t! If you make (2) a belted version, then like an Amerindian version, you can have a butt canvas, and sit down naturally, (and carry naturally!) ... no more dirty/wet a-- situation! Making another, and this can be your crotch-table for eating, setting your hot items in lap, and not get all mucked with fallen food .... Great!
The concept of a waterproof insulated seat (or kneeling pad) that can be packed away is great. A possible alternative to the Greenland wax might be a linseed oil and beeswax mixture, resulting in an oilcloth.
My son and I made a similar project using Reflectix and metal foil tape - both common homestore items. I think your idea folds up smaller. The Reflectix is an amazing thermal barrier and gives great padding for sitting and kneeling, but can be a little bulky unless you use it against or even to replace the frame sheet in your pack. Great work. I love DIY projects. Keep em coming!
What a neat idea, maybe after you put the grommets in you can hang it from the back of your shirt, so it is always at the ready when you go to sit down. Thanks for taking the time to share this. Peace, Reese
In the winter I use that mylar-bubble wrap stuff, Reflectix. You can get them at Home Depot, if you have Home Depot in the States.. It's super lightweight, waterproof, and insulates well... but it lacks a certain appearance... I like the wool, I think it would be a nice addition to that seat you have, between the canvas and the wool. Nice for kneeling.
I wax my Fjällräven pants, softshell jacket and the bottom of my Kajka backpack regularly. I like to use a hairdryer because it's not as messy and it's easier to see how evenly the fabric absorbs the wax. I have also used a camp fire to thicken the wax layer out on the mountain, which is great if you run into heavier rain than you expected.
It's really great to see how proud you are of your projects. Keep it up!
I used to SnoSeal my leather boots with the same method as your waxing. Heat up the area to be waxed and using a rag dipped in the SnoSeal, wipe it onto the leather and watch it absorb. i still have a couple of pairs of those boots - waterproof and strong. This was back 30 years ago, before performance materials like Gore Tex were commonplace.
With a little more work, this could definitely be a limited run type of thing to fund the Black Owl Outdoors endeavours! I would definitely support it.
If there's anyway you could get Fjallraven to send you some of their jackets and products for winter, it would be AWESOME if you could review those. I really would like one of your style reviews on their products. Your reviews have an uncut, genuine, and real feeling to them.
+Uriah Graves We have done 2 videos thus far on Fjallraven clothing but have only uploaded one of them. The other should be live sooner than later.
the idea for the seat is really nice. It looks lightweight and practical. I dont think the sewing job is bad at all. Perhaps instead of using cotton you might want to just use a couple of layers of tyvek. It's super lightweight, waterproof and durable too especially if doubled over. Anyways the beezewax coating is supposed to make things water resistant not waterproof so I wouldn't worry about a couple of water spots. You inspired me, I'm going to make something similar for my outings to the wilds.
+Far East Survival In case anyone wants to try; Tyvek needs to be taped, it will tear if stitched.
What type of tape would you recommend? Should I use duct tape?
Enjoy your videos. You've helped me discover my inner turtle. For that I thank you.
very cool idea. little bigger bedrole size maybe x2 wool , good job ill definatley be making one for my snowshoe pack
Very nice I haven't read the other comments so if this idea was mentioned sorry for redundancy, I do think you should put tabs on the end not grommets and if you use some rope it could be an elevated hammock seat between trees and if you use marlin spikes on 2 sticks one on each side than it could bridge it and be very comfortable love the vids keep them coming.
I've used this wax for my Fjallraven barents. I used my mothers hairdryer for it. It works great with two layers
thats a great idea. Me and a buddy just went backpacking in Yellowstone for a week, and something like this would have been nice for just a little cushion and protection from wet logs and ground. Thanks for the great video.
ive done this for years now with the same product. i find the best way to do it is putting the object on a table and force rubbing the wax into the fabrick. when you are done and see a thick layer use the hair dryer, use the heat from a fire or throw it into a tuble dryer. works wonders and usually holds up 4 wither monts for me. thanks for the great vidios
Very nice. You've motivated me to start my own DIY projects. Thanks for the video.
Nice one! You should make it like a pillow cover so you can stuff in a filling for insulation. You know fold it over and sow it close on 2 sides and leave one side open to fill in debris / leaves / a shirt / whatever to create an insulating space between you and the ground.
"Observe my foresight, I never venture fourth without my Macintosh square". That line is in the movie "A Room With A View" and is recited by Eleanor Lavish. Your Krik square is quite nice - I will order one when they show up on your site along side the tee shirts...
this is awesome. i've been trying to come up with a design similar to this as well, but i never thought to incorporate wool. if you add another layer of canvas, you can stuff it with debris and use it as a pillow/seat pad. you could also turn it inside out and have only waxed canvas exposed if the weather is real bad or you just want the canvas surface to work on. looks great!
Like the extra layer idea for debris stuff. That would give you some insulation from the cold rocks in Appalachia.
Good quality hair dryer is what I use. It is a more reliable way to make sure everything is melted in evenly. I also go through the trouble of using mostly 100% beeswax. It isn't as easy to work with but I enjoy the results and smell. It does add weight, and in my case stiffness to the item. I have a cook kit bag that stands on it's own when empty for example heh.
Hair dryer takes too much time and might screw up your / her's dryer. I am using washer dryer with "refresh" program and it absolutely fantastic. You put your wax, slip here there...swipe swipe. ....just cover everything . . and then in to the machine and take it out in 10min. No hassle, all nicely covered and dissolved. There is nothing better to take care of the Fjallraven wax stuff then this method. Give it a try an let me know. Cheers, Mike
Rubberized fabric works good for that. It's 100% waterproof and is durable and can be sewed.
I think you should put these on the store as well!
Good idea lighter weight option for a day hike to keep the behind dry and warm!
Awesome idea. I want one.
you're really diversifying your skills!!! that's the way to do it.. great job!
+Primal Edge Ha. Too many interests to stick to one thing!
great idea, i carry a ground cloth that i love but it gets sticky . no worries in the winter, wax may get messy when its hot .... great stitching work and seat ...
..bill
+billy joe denny Thanks Bill. Yea this is for colder months so I'm not worried about the wax warming up.
Nice job on pad
I find not warming the wax before you apply it to the cloth and then using the iron to melt it on, has given me the best results with the very same wax you use. Here in Finland they sell reindeer hides for seats think I might get one. You don't have to have the whole hide just a cut out for a seat. Like your idea though. Looks like you are into your Fjällräven gear, when you start buy their stuff you can't stop. It's very addictive.
Great idea.
1-What sewing machine are you using? 2-What type of Needle and Threading are you using? 3- Did you get the grommet kit? The grommet on the ends would be a very nice touch, so I hope you do that. Also, I looked at your store for the first time today. I was surprised you are not making belts and selling them. It would be something a lot of guys would be interested in.
Good video nice piece of kit looks like you picked up on the sewing machine pretty well thanks for sharing always learning
i like your projects keep sharing they are really good ideas
I think it's a great idea. You've got some good sewing skills there. You and Stony keep up the good work. Opal
+Opal Preston Shirley Thanks a bunch!
Cool idea. Love all your vids.
I like it! I want to make something similar myself now. Actually just got into sewing and I love to work with wool and wax, nice idea
Good idea. I really enjoy these diy videos.
Such a great idea and very useful in many ways on outings. Looks great your sewing job and very nice design. I am sure as time goes you will master the water proofing if you haven't already. 👍🏻
Fantastic!!! I'm definitely going to try and make one. Very new to all this, so these videos are very helpful. Thanks!
Nice compact seat! I like the canvas/wool combination. Useful piece of gear to have in a kit. Thanks for sharing another cool idea!
Atb,
Jenn:)
Nice seat idea. .Thanks for posting.
Cool idea!
This material would make a good ground sheet,
Great video buddy
Very nice
Thanks for another beautiful video. I'm curious to hear how the water resistance works when pressed against wet ground/grass/snow, as opposed to simple splashing. I'm afraid it might get soaked notwithstanding the wax. Otherwise it's a beautiful piece of craftsmanship. Have you considered making it into a pouch (like a pillow-case) so that you can stuff it with dead leaves in the fall, or with your spare clothes in the winter, for added insulation? I think that would be a neat touch!
Good Idea.
I wax my Fjallraven trousers that I use for hunting. I have put on 2 layers and it seems to do ok for about an hour of walking through knee high wet grass then the water starts to take hold. Will wax them again and maybe do 4 applications. Or I may just go back to cordura chaps of my gaiters. Or go to a 20% beeswax mix next batch.
I like the project. I am sure it will be well liked on the cold days. I bought the thermarest sit pad and really like it, so much I won't give it up to look more bushcrafty. Maybe make a matching set of kneepads?
Have you ever tried using any of the wash in waterproofers like Nikwax into Fjällräven trousers. I haven't but just wonder if anyone had. I always use the wax.
I don't know if would work but I have some Nikwax so I will give it a try.
Awesome!
I like the canvas /wool combo..........however it appears that the waterproofing needs improvements............dont think you really need any grommets.
that does look like a pretty handy piece of gear. What specifically makes it a bushcraft seat vs just a seat?
nice video thanks friend
Love it
Looks like a great size ..what are the measurements
You need a type of nylon for the bottom. Any cotton will fail with or without wax.
hi good idea buddy
brilliant..
great vid :-D keep up your awesome grind
Nice project. Have you considered stocking products (like the wax) that you review and like on Black Owl Supply?
Great job! I've thought about getting a canvas/leather log carrier from Amazon, and waxing it. Then it can be used for carrying firewood and sitting/kneeling. I like the addition of the wool though. Combining the two, by adding a leather handle at each end, would make it multi-functional and comfortable. Two or three layers of wool would help with comfort as well. I don't see a need for grommets. I'm alright at sewing, I'd like to make one of these. I'm guessing hyou waxed the canvas before sewing, right?
+Soulman1282 No. Waxing was the last thing I did.
The only thing I don't like about wax is that it sometimes attracts bees, but that's a really neat idea :)
Also does that pot have a name and where could I get one?
the stiching looked fine its the water proffing that missed the mark
I like your videos Krik thanks for sharing :)
What's up with the Turtles thing? :)
addressed in a call & response vid. TMNT.
nice seat, i prefer to use 100% pure beeswax, is cheaper, lasts longer and melts as a higher temperature :)
+Tac Blades Do you was some of your tents then or tarps?
Furniture restores add paraffin to soften the wax and make it more pliable maybe that's why its added so it apply's more evenly.
I have made some canvas tarps,but very heavy. I mainly use it on pouches and bags i make, also things like dog coats. I make sure the fabric and beeswax is quite hot when i apply it then it goes on easy and is absorbed by the fibres. I use a dry iron to heat the fabric.
My thoughts? Make a few and sell them.
Nice idea, you going to sell any?
Do you need to keep re-applying it How do you launder it?
are you planning on selling them? nice product.
+Sabertooth707 Possibly in the future. Everything I make is the R&D aspect. Once I'm confident with my designs and techniques, then I can make them available for purchase. I wouldn't do it any other way.
Cool how much was that wax? Do you know the best way to condition leather for heavy rain?
+Jasonscreative Adventures It was about $10 for that bar. And that will last you a good while.
+Jasonscreative Adventures What article of leather is being exposed to heavy rain?
possibly a survival backpack. have not made it yet. maybe some boots. I'm considering making a duster odd some sort. But I'm still pretty new to leather work. lol
I prefer to put it in the dryer
Why does he call us Turtles?
Its well made I like it
I use one of those foam mats, it doesn't need to be re/water proofed as it naturally water proof is comfy to sit on and insulates your butt lol
+Mossy Bark Yea I've used them as well too. But I like the natural materials better.
+Black Owl Outdoors Your right natural is far more pleasing.
Which side do you sit on, wool or canvas?
+Sharma Wrightson Canvas side down.
+Black Owl Outdoors Thanks, I love your work Krick & Stony. I guess you could flip it if you found yourself sitting in the rain.
Neat. Now to make (1) a triangle seat for a wooden tripod pole seat, and you are se(a)t! If you make (2) a belted version, then like an Amerindian version, you can have a butt canvas, and sit down naturally, (and carry naturally!) ... no more dirty/wet a-- situation! Making another, and this can be your crotch-table for eating, setting your hot items in lap, and not get all mucked with fallen food .... Great!
ya could have peed on it and it still would have been krik water lol lol lmao
I really hope you'r NOT having a campfire on the rocks? That will speed up erotion and is not a good thing to do.
i don't wax per say i oil skin and use a heat gun a hair dryer on steroids
thats why i oil skin