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But unfortunately, not for my wallet’s safety…
This is the video equivalent of a parental guidance stamp on a CD, just makes it cooler
Because of HnK
I don't watch videos loged in, why not on rumble?
-saving us from the Asian-
This...AND....the Daewoos... I'm about to become a Daewoo guy after the shot show news.
Please do, Klay! I look forward to the content.
@@bobrowley4346 You and me both!
Yikes
Also.
Yeah you beat me to that one I didn't even see this and I posted about that.😎👍
PTR finally makes a 556.
Takes AR mags.
Cries.
But when?
@@dbmail545This spring
@@dbmail545
In production now. (2 years late) tells me they had some issues
They did a short run years ago, using century recievers, that took hk mags. They called it the ptr900.
At $80/mag, going from the hk43 to more of the hk g41 makes sense to me
Been out of stock for a long time
*Riddle me this: How come HK's roller-delayed lineup get a lot flak for not locking open on empty but when talking about the AK it is rarely, if it all, mentioned?*
because they both suck compared to an AR15
@@0Asterite0 Preach.
Cause by 1968 it was a feature that was wanted, not so in the 40s.
@@0Asterite0 tell me how the AR is better for military use.
I think it's because the roller delayed rifles require more effort to charge the rifle vs the ak due to the ak having the charging handle on the bolt carrier instead of far forward out on the end of the heavy rifle.
Yes. Talk about PTR. Please
Yea. I've been a big fan since JLD, so I'm interested in what's gone wrong
More information about products is always good, I second a ptr video
I have older PTRs. I too am interested in your thoughts and opinions.
+1
Same, I think I'm about to be very sad.
I remember the heyday of AK parts kits when buying a unissued, numbers matching, Romanian AK wasn’t a big deal. Dirt cheap ammo, parts, furniture were at every gun show and every issue Shotgun News was a veritable treasure trove. Now, I look back and think was that even real? We had no idea how good we had it.
Now it’s $850 for a Romy G kit, and they were/are garbage
This
@@randymagnum143 I got one of the first of the last Romy rpk kits that Royal Tiger Imports had for their initial price of $650 in 2019 /2020? and by the end of the run a few years later they were charging like $1750 for them. Things definitely went crazy.
I recently moved and found an old Shotgun News from the 90s. It was hard not to cry.
Yeah, the is one way the German flavor gun will never have quite the charm of Mr. K's universal wonder gun. The German was never, ahem, inexpensive (avoiding the misinterpretable "ch..." word.) When you could pick up a decent AK for $300, and a 1000+ rounds of ammo for another hundred, the extended time you could then spend with your new bride led to the kind of bonding that they make movies about. The German? It was good and quick, but cold, and she ended up with most your cash and you feeling exhilarated but wasted.
Still, if you can't get the piece of you dreams, the Germans make a good substitute. I'm betting the Koreans come out better in the long run, as they seem to anticipate value-pricing if production/importation is able to keep up with demand.
Don't be fooled, this is Henry's way to join his weird roller-delayed cult.
At least he's not as extreme as the "HK or no way" cultists. I don't mind a turkish clone if it's 75% cheaper and made on the same tooling.
I’m in
There are worse cults
he is an HK collector and fanboy, he has been a priest of the cult for a while, what are you talking about?
roller-delayed cult is better than HK only cult
Showing up to the range with a 93 instead of an AK or an AR ALWAYS turns heads and everyone loves it. 5.56 means sharing is caring and everyone comes away praising German roller delayed magic
My first firearm purchase in 1984 was a West German made HK93 which I still own and shoot. Dressed in CETME wood, it’s a completely different animal than my ARs. Deadly accurate with the right ammo, drawn out recoil impulse and stout weight. Didn’t know that made me ‘sketchy’. 🤷
Yeah but where the hell can you find an hk93 anymore?
@@makinbacon3124 if this inspires you at all… I found mine at a random gun store in CALIFORNIA cucked to be compliant but thankfully all of it was undoable. 1500 dolphins hairs out the door.
In fairness, anything that isnt an AR or AK will turn heads. An AUG turns heads, an MCX turns heads.
I asked a simple question: Is a man not entitled to good rifles? No says the man in Russia, it must be impossible to mount optics to. No says the man is Israel, it must be heavy as fuck. No says the man at Palmetto, we will not inspect it. I rejected those answers; instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose HK.
Impossible only because I could not afford German autism. (so you know it's good.)
😂
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Very on-brand for Andrew Ryan to buy a H&K
Why pick between impossible-to-mod and heavy, when you can have both AND a bad trigger for only twice the price, am I right?
I seriously laughed out loud at the "German" part where he showed the STG and played 2 seconds of Erika. Thanks, Henry. That was hilarious.
Worst thing about that is - there were 60 mil of tsar country born victims of soviet regime. But ruskies music / toys... does not evoke such emotions... in part because a lot of people come to middle east from tsar country... history is weird like that.
Yes, Henry. You’re off your rocker. AK people are attracted to simplicity and reliability. The effectiveness of the round, especially 7.62x39. And being able to fix a rifle in the field with basic materials in the unlikely event it breaks. Who gives a shit what criminals use?
$1700 for a Century/Turkish gun...yeah that's not happening. For that Price AK guys will continue to be AK guys, especially when they see how much the HK accessories cost
Well the pool of legit non-commercialized AKs under $1700 is getting pretty thin. They exist but the options are getting less and less while Hk style roller delayed guns are getting more popular.
Turkish ones are made on HK tooling you can't expect a lower price for that.
Gun business is dropping soon now that we have a republican president. Prices will drop soon. Be patient sir. Add yourself to PSA and battle hawk armoryemail lists
@@Front-Toward-Enemy "Hey there is less of the things I like, but for the same price (or more) here is a thing that's not the thing I like, and it's getting more popular. Guess I'll switch over to them for no reason." yeah, okay
@@MUCKLEECH fine, be boring.
As an AK nerd myself, I'm cool with any other Cold War era rifles and pistols
I personally find AK folks tend to like the G3 as well, so this isn't a far leap from that. The PTR32 series also sold like gangbusters within the AK community.
Same, I still have a soft spot for the VZ58 and the Famas.
Them cold war gats were quite neat.
@@selmevias1383 For me, it's the milled/T3 fixed-stock AK, AKMS, and all Cold-War 308 battle rifles, especially the M14 and G3 derivatives. I guess I just like 7.62 a lot, plus they can share cans. Never been big on 5.45 or 5.56 AKs, but I do love A1 type retro AR builds. I've got an MP5K SBR but no full-size MP5, so maybe an HK53 clone or PTR32 SBR would fill that spot with a bit more ooph. Like the big-boy MP5 your momma warned you about.
@@dark2023-1lovesoni AK guys seem to have a bigger appreciation for older or otherwise different designs than many AR guys that are fiercely tribal. The G3 is pretty similar in design philosophy to the AK and while they're obviously very different internally they scratch the same itch for the retro feel.
@@dark2023-1lovesonifor me, back around 2018-2019, my top five favorite rifles were:
1. AK platform (in general)
2. IMI Galil ARM
3. FN FAL
4. FN SCAR
5. Daewoo K2
I'll be getting a Daewoo instead (hopefully ).. unless it's like when we were supposed to get Indonesian FNCs and it never happened.
I think Daewoo has a much better handle on the import process than Pindad did. They also want to move production here.
Indonesian fnc copies are not that great, ran across a few in PNG, usually rusty and often out of service due to broken firing pins or broken extractors
The reason the Indo FNCs haven't happened is because the gun-grabbing Communist who was in the White House until a few weeks ago had ordered the gun-grabbing Communists at the ATF to totally stop the import of rifle-type "pistols" into the country. My understanding is that it wasn't an actual, outright "ban" on the import of those types of firearms, the Communist-in-Chief just told ol' Toaster Head at the ATF to essentially "lose the paperwork" and slow-roll the process of greenlighting the import of those types of firearms to the point that it became a de facto ban.
Similar to the way they used to approve tax stamps before the Bruen decision scared them into approving suppressor and SBR/SBS stamps in like a week. You file the paperwork and then two years later you get your stamp. That's what they were doing with rifle-type "pistol" imports, of which the Indo FNC was one. Had the Commie's even further left DEI hire VP been elected last November, that import "approval" process would've been "delayed" for four more years. Maybe even been made a permanent outright ban.
Hopefully with Trump in office and the ATF swamp getting drained, that importation process will get back on a normal track and those Indo FNC "pistols" will get fast-tracked.
Pindad's booth was one dude with a folding table. SNT Motiv had a legit booth with professional staff and a wide range of products. I think the new Woo is for real.
You'll be happy to hear this: The G3 and its variants may have been involved in more crime activity than any AK.
I was thinking of the 94 Hollywood shootout, guy had an AK47U and a G3, but the AK kept getting hammer follow (poorly modified to full auto) and the G3 caught a bullet to the magwell making it a California compliant model.
@@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz The Dissipator with the double drum mag kept rockin' till the very end, though!
Looking forward to a vid on PTR Henry.
I second that.
Yes - please talk about the PTR manufacturing!
I think the "119 each or three for 300" pull them from a crate at a gun show next to the pallet of 1200 round spam cans of 5.45 for 99.95 had a fair bit to do with their popularity 😜
More interested in SNT Motiv K2 than a roller delay. All the Cold War character without being stupidly heavy like an HK33.
Do I love roller-delayed guns? Yes. Do I think they'll replace the AK market? Absolutely not. Even now, with AKs costing a premium, there are no 5.56 roller-delayed guns on the market that compete with AKs in cost and aftermarket support. I can buy an M90 for around $1000. The ZF-56 is $2100 and notoriously shitty. The PTR-63 is not out yet, and has a starting price of $1799. The CETME-L is the closest in price gun, at $1349. Unless delayed-roller guns get more reliable and cheaper, 5.56 AKs are going to stay relevant.
As someone saving up for a G3 or more likely a clone('m not rich unfortunately) please talk about PTR in the future. Always good to know more about the quality of what clones are out there.
Yes a PTR vid please. I think roller delayed would be a community in its own right. I don’t see AK people defecting. The Galil ACE comes in 5.56. You can make old school Galils in the same caliber if 5.56 AKs are your jam.
I'm basically a heretic. I have not only a 7.62x39 AK, but also a 5.56 Galil Ace that takes STANAGS, an FAL, an MP5, and finally a G3 I got today. If guns acted like the toys in Toy Story they'd be beating the living sh*t out of each other every night trying to prove they're the better gun lol.
I don't really think most AK guys are nearly as tribal as some in the gun community. Most of us have other stuff too. Some even have ARs...! 😰
@ - count me in as a heretic. I have FALs, ARs, AKs, a Garand an SKS and a Yugo Mauser. I think it’s important to know all the major ones. The 5.56 HKs are intriguing but they’re high roller’s guns and the mags just as much so. If I were starting a “crime collection” the Thompson, MAC-10, TEC-9 and cheap small caliber pistols (“Saturday Night Specials”) would be the choices… and AKs and ARs. The Roller Delayed stuff - maybe for movie crimes.
There is something about owning your "former" enemies weapon system and because they were so focused on getting American dollars that the ammo cost of a range day was cheaper than your McStop for lunch that was appealing. That and growing up wanting to be a wolverine...
ThiccP5 is the budget AK alternative
Crazy how times have changed! I remember when WASRs were under 200 dollars during the AWB. I purchased a AWB compliant version for $159 with the undesired narrowed magwell imported by Century Arms (iirc) they took a proprietary single stack 10rd magazine. But after 2004 there were several companies offering a magwell widening service. I've sold so many AK pattern rifles that I wish I would've kept. Norinco MAK90s were under 400 dollars, I had an Egyptian MAADI that never cycle correctly so I sold that very cheap. I'm glad I did hang onto a few WASRs and a couple ROMAK SARs.
yeah those days are gone
Definitely talk about PTR
For years, it was the mystique. They had soul, and it was so fun to learn about each rifle; where they come from and what was happening in history at the time they were conceived.
You might be onto something, because I would not have purchased my MP5 if I hadn't moved on from AKs.
I admire most systems of firearms from an engineering standpoint. Though, I'm an AK guy at heart because of the simplicity. And unlike the AR and HK, it doesn't shit where it eats.
Yes please cover PTR Henry.
The problem with the AK community is that it is really two communities for the purpose of a market for companies to sell to
The first community are absolute diehard AK purists who will continue to acquire "bicycle parts" and are not a real market to cater to. KUSA's failure was in part due to these purists refusing to buy the KR-103 entirely, despite KUSA having eaten a huge bill to set that production up, and then just hoping that KUSA could eat ANOTHER massive loss tooling up for 5.56. These same people will say that zastavas are out of spec, polish AKs are too expensive for what they are (to them, a grossly inferior 7.62x39 carrier based 5.56 AK monstrosity), and that arsenals (which they ALSO refused to buy, and thus caused them to also stop making AKs for the US import market) are scalped. They insist on everything being exactly correct yet will not buy guns from the manufacturer to fund those very niche part fabrication operations.
The second community are the people who are actually buying AKs. These people are buying PSAs, Riley Defenses, Atlantic AKs, and Century AKs (WASRs if they feel like doing research). They do not care about it lasting 140k rounds. They do not care that the "WBP USA 100 series" does not use the correct rivets or trunnions. They just want a fun gun that is AK shaped and works like an AK that will at least shoot its purchase price (if not 5x) in ammo through it, and consider that good.
The industry is catering to the second community because they are actually BUYING the AKs. The first community has not bought a factory rifle for 20 years and will continue diverting what could be a lucrative market into "bicycle part" importers, because to them those "bicycle parts" being correct is more important than nurturing the growth of a company that is taking on very high risk and spending millions on presses, stamping dies, etc. The first community is in effect NOT A REAL MARKET, and is thus treated as "imaginary customers", where the perceived interest is high but the ACTUAL BUYING PROPORTION of these "interested" people is basically a rounding error of zero.
Like if you want to know why the beryls were discontinued, go and call Arms of America. Ask them how many beryls and beryl kits are just SITTING there in the warehouse. It is THOUSANDS. Thousands of rifles and parts that AK purists won't touch with a 50 ft pole.
This^ the first type of AK community you mention makes up 90% of the AK subreddit, which is probably one of the most toxic gun communities out there.
Astute
I think AoA has one 7.62 beryl left and who knows how many 5.56. Which just proves your point. We’re almost year from FBs announcement that they’re ceasing production and they are still available. A modern collectible, with a GWOT pedigree, and sits at the intersection of NATO and AK history. And it is still available from the importer!
You’re 100% right.
The AK is outdated and outclassed by AR, AR derivatives, and the MCX.
Originally I think one of the biggest hurdles for AK people to move to roller is the HK tax. Lot of people got into AKs back in the day due to the low cost of weapons, ammo and it NOT being an AR based platform. (Which is why I originally got into AKs back in 2010. I just wanted something different, but also low cost ammo). Now unfortunately, AKs have approached boutique levels of cost, with arsenals hilariously being over $2000 sometimes, SLR series no longer manufactured, Romania every year wanting more and more for their imports, etc etc coupled with 762 ammo being almost the same price as 556. The gap is being closd..that being said however, a quality 556 Ak…let’s say a WBP jack being what 1200?, a FB at $1300 for military provenance; is still way cheaper than entering into 556 roller guns.
For instance there’s no 33 import right now, so you’re looking at 3000-4000 for an HK, or building a kit for around the 3500 mark. AP53 is a nice new import, but you’re still looking at $1700, plus a stock $400, then $200 extortion tax.
To turn 53 into 33…1700+lets say fixed stock 100+250 for barrel, 100 for cocking tube, then $600 for gunsmith work…still at 2750 just to have a rifle.
I say all that to say the gap is closing (in not the right way lol), but if prices on the roller delay guns come down with new imports especially a 33, 33k flooding the market etc, but also more options in the aftermarket space for stocks as I think the retractable and other parts are just absurdly priced for what they are..aka HK tax..I believe the Ak peeps will be more apt to collect and shoot them.
Yeah that's kinda the thing for me. Harder for us AK poors to justify a 2k secondhand c93 that might have had bad QC from Century when you can get a brand new Galil Ace for the same price.
You took all the words out of my mind! LoL
This is pretty much it. I always liked my AKs for the value. HK's are expensive, simple as that.
@lonememe Even the clones are expensive
What do you think about a zastava m90 (5.56)?
Cover PTR, please. 🙏 I was literally looking at their site while watching this.
For me the AK appeals were durability and cheap ammo which was effective at the distances I was often shooting. Now that the ammo is expensive relative to 5.56 it is just hipster stuff to get into the AK.
As much as I love the 5.56 roller guns, I don't think they are going to fully win over the AK community. Mainly because the roller delayed guns require more mainteneance and bring a higher level of complexity that what the AK offers. IMO the most attractive feature of the AK is it's simplistic operating system.
They have been dragged all over africa for decades
@@macnitt4039 mostly because there was only one other option, the FAL, flawed as well, and definitely more expensive. HK's zoo of rollers and wedges is logistical hell
I grew up in Russia where in schools you would have a moulage of AK-74M for field stripping training. Since then I always wanted to have an AK-74 variant in my collection. I moved back to the US , and several years later I bought a .223 Remington Saiga simply for practical reasons.
I only recognize Russian-made AKs, except for Finnish Valmets and Israeli Galils.
Funny enough, people hate Krinks in Russia because it is inferior to the standard rifle.
Collecting. Recreation.
I still prefer AKs even as a American myself
Yes please expand on the ptr issues
They won't make a G3 clone with the grenade ring on the sight post and won't make it so it can take a two pin lower. Also they refuse to make anything in just HK black without a stupid rail welded to the receiver.
@@grandtheftavocado How dare they make a better version! Those bastards!
@@evernhamanderson “Better version” is subjective.
I am very fascinated with the roller-delayed branch of German small arms development. Many see the AK as the successor of sorts to the Sturmgewehr, but in fact I see the HK lineup as the actual evolution of that. The creation of the roller delayed system with the StG45 during the late period of the war, and the founding story of HK can attest to that. Not to mention, looking closely one can see some very similar and consistent design cues in these firearms that hint to this relationship.
Sketchy guys wear Breitlings and shoot long stroke piston or roller delayed guns.
Yes, you are off your rocker. One word… money!
Correct me if I'm wrong a 762 by 39 performs much better out of a shorter barrel then a 556 but yet we put 556 in shorter barrels expecting them to perform like 762x39 out of the same length barrel
This is correct
People dislike this configuration because it was originally imported as the infamous "draco", and like pretty much everything about the AK community, the clout matters more than the practical application
This used to be correct, but the wide adoption of effective low velocity .223 bullets in off the shelf 556 ammunition has turned the 556 into the superior short barrel cartridge.
Same reason, 300 blackout (7.62x35) is superior to 7.62x39. Nobody makes ammunition or 7.62x39 that has good bullets, that work out of these shorter barrels. Hell MK262 and its civilian TMK counterpart make even 300 blackout almost completely irrelevant. The only reason 300 blackout is still considered a viable cartridge is because for nearly the same price as MK262 you can get 300 blackout with TMK bullets.
21st century cartridge technology hasn’t been applied to Russian ammunition
@ Unfortunately the AK community is outright HOSTILE to this solution despite the fact that it solves multiple problems at the same time (uses 5.56 AK mags which fit the 5.45 type aesthetic but with 7.62x39 performance, superior subsonic selection, better barrel thread concentricity because they have to make a new barrel TDP, superior projectile selection in general, etc)
The ONLY production AK in .300 BLK right now is the PSA Krink, and that says all you need to know about the state of the market.
@@DD-hz3ts in order to get the 300blk krink to work, PSA had to modify the AK gas system, instead of using the normal one
@@darud3sandst0rm Yeah, they used the exact same type of bypass that the 9x39 AKs did (including the Groza but in particular like the OTs-12 Tiss)
This is ironically something that has never been done before and is actually really cool, but the AK community seems to uh
Hate having a 9x39 feature, in what is basically a better OTs-12 Tiss...?
The AK community is kinda stupid I'm not gonna lie
Sig 553 is ultimate 5.56 AK
This just in: "Warcrimes aren't real crimes" - Henry Chan
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I think the broader drive could be Cold War era weapons as the new collecting sphere thats emerging across GenX and Millennial collectors and that opens up a lot of interesting categories of collecting from early AR15 variants to AKs, Roller delayed systems, piston driven and so on. To your point developed by/for military applications and of course the darkside.
AKS74U is a police gun in the first place here in Russia. For decades it had kinda bad reputation, but it is a decent AK
People liked AKs because the guns and ammunition were super cheap and reliable. After that went away you just have a bunch of people who are already so invested in a weapons platform that they do not want to change, and I don't blame them for that.
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I watched the intro to this conversation with a mix of horror and skepticism. But by the end, you've sold me on the concept. I'll be doing some research into these.
Something youll never get an AK guy to be okay with is the price of the roller guns.
I own one of the few I.O. AK's that work. It did come brand new with machining chips inside of it (i'm an engineer and machinist). It can be all kinds of ranges if their quality control is bad.
12:20 yes I would like to hear.
guys, I've been a gun guy since the 80's. You have to buy them while they are available. They all go away after some time. First,people want them, but since they are available, they procrastinate. Once they are gone, they price skyrockets, and the old price seems silly. Buy now, each time. The end.
I couldn't agree more. I sometimes think back to those 1980's Shotgun News ads for $89 M1 carbines. And the cheap Tokarev 7.62x25 pistols. And the SKS rifles. And any number of other milsurp guns that were being sold dirt cheap back in the day that now cost a pretty penny to buy.
I love my AKs for the capability they offer and the looks. M70B1 and the original M70 (not M64) just look amazing. Same with the M76. I love the krink because it's just an amazing PDW and beats out most modern options in weight for size.
I have been wanting an HK53 (to convert to 9x39, use VSS mags, and make it into an integral) for a while and I also like the look. Don't really care about the history enough to justify it or even the AKs.
AK and G3 family owners loved to bicker back and forth about "no I actually built this and not assembled it" and "my welding/folding vs your welding/folding", but it was all tongue and cheek as we both hated on the AR crowd lol. (good times). I think whether or not the older AK community (who didn't do it for building/flipping cheap kits) gravitates to the turkish HK53s is if the QC is there or not. If it's garbage like what we are seeing from AK imports from WBP and Zusa, then there is no reason to. Also costs aren't what they were 10-25 years ago where kits were 10% of what they go for now and it was it's own niche community.
I don't think these HK clones will reignite anything as that time is just long gone. Even today in these groups, us "boomers" (not age related) know who's who and bullshit like it is 2008 and that will never change (even though more and more of us leave these groups/platforms for one reason or another).
What is wrong with the Serbian AK’s ? They’re made in a military factory.
I think a video on PTR would be interesting, I was recently looking at their girk rifles.
Also will yall be checking out PSAs new Jakl in 30 hate?
I mean, most AK guys I know are also HK guys to some extent. To my mind, the Venn diagram of AK and HK is nearly just a circle.
I almost tried it, but the HK stamped guns have always frustrated me in ways that infuriated me, while AKs have always frustrated me in ways that added to their charm. It just fills that uncanny valley between the crude mass production of the AK and the refinement of the AR.
Nothing will ever replace the AK as the all time definitive "bad guy gun." The most pessimistic view is that if somehow the AK finally leaves official military service sometime in the next 100 years, there will still be another 100 years of pop culture showing it's villainous exploits. The Roller Delay guns are still too young and too straight laced to ever properly replace that. That being said however - the idea of a squad of goons, decked out with HK53s blasting away at a protagonist, is an extremely striking mental image.
I really like ak's a bit more than roller delays platforms but mostly because there is more customizability and rivets and building it yourself.
Roller guns are great that you can build them yourself too but they are def a step up in terms of skill to complete.
I had never even considered the short barrel 5.56 G3 instead of the short 7.62 G3. That setup you have is classic, CompM2s and flashlight handguards always look great
I can see several videos talking about guns associated to crime. Part of my interest in the AK platform was movies showing the baddies having them.
The TEC-9, HiPoint C-9, Glock with a switch, etc… comes to mind for guns used by baddies / criminal associations…
This was a great video and I literally laughed each time “Crime” was flashed on the screen.
Appreciate the work you put in and contribute to our firearms community.
PTR video request please!
Love your gun reviews and history you bring to table. Keep the HK Slap going!
Full support all in. Ended up getting a PTR 91 before an AK, half because of ammo
As a new AK enthusiast I really wish I had gotten into them many years ago, but listen to the old men of my younger days boy were they wrong all the good stuff is astronomical price now
You're off your rocker, kind of 😂😂😂
I like a lot of different firearms for a lot of different reasons, but the AK's and roller-delayed guns have always been a favorite, partly I think from the stamped steel receiver aspect. But, also, because they harken back to a time when things weren't really "standardized" to AR-platforms and Glock magazines. Everybody was sort of doing their own thing, and you saw a lot of ingenuity and interesting designs come out of the Cold War era.
AKs are cool because they're "bad guy" guns
Very valid points. I think the only thing that has held back AK owners in the past from HK's is the price, but that's not really an issue anymore with good AK's approaching or exceeding the price of HK's now.
Yes, talk about PTR!!! Have Hop join you to share his experience 🐈⬛
Hi Hanry,
I am following your programs from Türkiye and I have to make some corrections your comments @16:03 because it is not correct..
First of all, Türkiye do not have conflict with Kurdish people "on Kurdish borders". There is no Kurdish country so tehere can't be a "border". However for 40 years PKK terrorist organization supported by USA attacts to our country and mostly to our Kurdish citizens inthe region to disrupt Türkiye.. PKK terrorist comes form Iran, Iraq and Syria and today USA invaded half of the Syria by using same PKK Terrorist so called YPG or SDF today...
I need to correct your first comment, as you being an old member of the Terrorist Supporter army,
Please watch the link:
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Secondly your comment on ""Turkish "ANTI-SUICIDE" Trigger Guard"" @16:03 is, if I put it kindly, it is bullshit.
I don't know from who you got your knowledge but it is wrong. In early days of of "profesional soldier" application in Turkish army, some professional soldiers fighting with PKK terrorist of yours, lost their trigger fingers with enemy fire while they were firing head-down suppresion fire (you simply hold the weapon in open and fire ) ..
Because they lost their trigger finger or hand they were put in to early retirement which wasn't good for them. So some genious in the field come with idea of improvised "finger protection" application which was banned completly. So this is not a Turkish army doing Suicide protection... this is your bullshit...
Thirdly Turkish MKE Factory which comes from Ottoman Impire times, was the main and only armory producing HK guns for the Turkish Military. The Zenit Arms in USA are importing HKG3s and again they are military grade being produced in th MKE.
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Turkish Army has been retiring HK G3s and others from frontlines, replacing with Turkish design and produced MPT-76 and MPT-55 familly of arms.
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www.mke.gov.tr/Urunler/Kategori/Silah/1
Please keep up the good work and don't make up stories.
Yes. Plz cover the PTR issue. I'd love to hear why.
In early 2008, I came home on leave from an Iraq deployment for 18 days I think. I was looking to buy an AR-15 to do some plinking with my brothers. We went to a couple different gun stores and I had a chance to get an H&K type rifle in 5.56/.223 but ended up getting a PTR-91 in 7.62/.308. It was my first experience with H&K type firearms and it was a really good one. Out of the box, my first group of three shots could have fit inside a Gatorade cap and this was using the rotary sights. OMG I love the rotary sights! Anyways I was really impressed with the rifle at first.
To speak on the PTR-91's quality, it was amazing at first. But I only put a box of ammo through it while home on leave. When I got back from Iraq for good, nearly a year later, they had somehow ruined it! I spent $1,500 on this rifle and IDK what they did to it, but it wouldn't run very good. I think it they shot it to death. They were supposed to be watching my possessions but instead treated them like trash. I ordered to back home, 2,000 rounds of ammo for it, various types. Some of it was that really cheap Wolf steel cased 308 I think. I intended to use it for emergencies and they shot nearly all that ammo. Now I wonder how much of it was them ruining it VS it being a PoS?
Me who owns an AK and G3: Both. Both is good.
I have often thought of the HK roller delayed guns being the west's equivalent to the kalashnikov series.
we are so back *salutes*
Ak- commie
HK- fascist
Deawoo- chad
AR18/BRN180- gigachad
Hi from Ireland. I would certainly rock either as certainly the "Crime" theory applies to both the G3 and the AK[not to mention Armalites] are kind of part of Irish folklore in the later half of the 20 th century in Northern Ireland.On the "Hereford Hooligans" side and use of the HK 33 I belive those were also available in 308! as if shooting at your local Provo with 308 wasnt enough,you could also blind and deafen them if you missed.So if one of those was available in 308..you have a customer.
I went to the VZ58, partly because it’s the better rifle (ducks brick) and partly to larp StrikeBack.
Those HK53's are cool asf.
As a kid growing up during the Cold War I wanted an AKSU-74 because of Colonel Brekhov of the Oktober Guard.
This video in a nutshell: "hey man I'm real sorry your dog died. May i offer you this goldfish instead? It's really cool i promise! See look he swims around in his bowl and everything!"
"...you tell me if my assessment is right or wrong."
Good old reverse psychology trick, straight out of the commissioned officer's handbook. Nothing beats it.
Age gated? You know this gonna be a banger.
So what you are telling me, is that there is a currently untapped market for bin-laden bodypillows with pouches for 5.45 bakelite mags?
One of the biggest reason I like about AKs is ease of disassembly and cleaning, I hated cleaning HK 91s, 93s and 94s. They are too complicated for my simple mind.
Love Henry's attire in this one.
man that HK33, its one good looking rifle
I love the AK and HK roller delayed guns and while you were discussing caliber, i thought about how cool it would be to have the HK system but chambered in 7.62X39, then I remembered I have a PTR 32.
The PTR32 is known to have reliability issues. If yours works, you're lucky.
Liverpool FC fan I see. A man of taste.
And a fan of Peepshow too.
Just how many easter eggs in one video?
I really would want you to cover the PTR rifles as an AK guy I I whole heartedly agree with you on ak guys liking Roller Delayed rifles I've been wanting to get into them for years and really wish we had more available HK33 clone here in the States I've always have felt it was underrated here. Really would love for you to give the platform more exposure
Is the AR just too ubiquitous, too well designed and too easy now days? Are we bored? We need a challenge? A unique unicorn that is ours alone?
Yes. The kind of people who are satisfied owning a decent AR and maybe a deer rifle or whatever are probably not watching lots of gun youtube videos.
Yes. ARs have the Glock problem, theyre "boring" because they work, and the majority of people buying them don't consider working to be entertaining enough.
Its weird that people purposely avoid liking a gun that works, but thats the luxury of not having to rely on it for its intended purpose.
The 556 FAL and this HK 556 is the ones I want.
when valmet practical accuracy :)
sooner than you'd think
@@9HoleReviews can't wait
Would definitely enjoy hearing your thoughts on current PTR
I love both my 5.56 AK and 5.56 HK roller delays, sorry not sorry :)
Collecting wise I would love both the Krink and that shorty G3. It's like a 5.56 MP5, you get the HK slap, I do love that retracting stock. But I love the AK charge, the side folding mechanism, the cone muzzle. Otherwise I just love the AK104 decked out and a nice 18" heavy barrel rifle gas AR.
If you had a milspec 8.6 blk roller delay semi auto it would be a BEAST of a suppressor host.
Speaking of the 90 series gun in 5.56I want a longer barrel in a shorter muzzle device. Carl over in range highlighted some thing I think very interesting “magnetic roller delay”. Literally using magnets to slow the bolt carrier or control the rate. Somebody was prototyping it when he highlighted it apparently it worked and pistol caliber.
I have been fiending for an HK33 since I saw the sheriff in First Blood rock one. Unfortunately I cannot muster the financial irresponsibility to actually buy a parts kit 😢.