Is The Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 TOO VIBEY?
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2024
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Why does it look like the daily rider background from revzilla 😂😂
I know right!😅
yeahhh very sus
I thought this was revzilla
Ikr
With single cylinders the vibes kind of smooths out after5-10k. As for the side stand being short, i think they deliberately did that because they expect you'd go offroad and you'd want a shorter sidestand which helps when you park on rough tarrains
Just a thought but most engines will bed in and become less vibey after the first few thousand miles.
Yes, that’s what I was thinking. Maybe review the bike again after it’s got a few thousand miles on it.
It does. I have done just over 2200kms and the vibes have come down significantly. They are still there, but no where near how it was in the beginning.
This is not something I've ever found.
@@ranjithk9150 also the fact that you get used to it ;)
@@PrashantEM7 That’s true as well, doesn’t bother me as much now
Viney, hahaha okay, Have they ever drove a 60' 70 ' 80 ' 90' bike? Lol it's a motorbike !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Love the vibe :) Greatings. go and sit in a sofa if it's to vibey .
RE sells a sofa too. The 350 Bullet.
I has Kawasaki Z550 and after about 40 minutes at motorway cruising you lost all feeling to your hands
Seriously. God forbid these people ever try an Enfield 500 or any other vintage motorcycle. They’d have a coronary
I prefer smooth engines and no, I won't stay sitting on my sofa, cheers for the advice.
Exactly grew up on Rd 250s and GT 500s 😭😭😁
After riding ev bike for a week...i realised i like some vibs plus engine &:exhaust sound.
dark side material - ev bike? uuuuurrrggghhh
many reviewers are pointing out , major vibrations occurring at 105 to 120 kmph and strangely smoothens out after 130 ish
Growing up on bikes in the late 1960s and early 1970s most bikes vibrated a ton. Yamaha 650s, Honda 450s, most two strokes, Harleys, Triumphs and the single cylinder Ducatis.
My 2017 Royal Enfield 500 is comparable to the vibes to those of my early years. I would expect smaller displacement bikes won't used as much at higher speeds for all day distances as we did with those bikes of yester year. Vibrations are a factor but shouldn't be THE factor on bikes of this type unless you are doing 70 mph all day rides.
Vibrations generally smoothen out after couple of services.
Those that have test ridden the 452 have done so on low mileage bikes. Do they not remember how much the 411 vibrated until it had a few thousand kms on it? I have owned lots of big singles over the years and they vibrate as they all do, even with balance shafts. Worst had to be the 1981 XT500 I owned. Horrendous vibration throughout the rev range.
As for the sidestand, I had the one on my 411 cut down. Looks like I'll be having the stand on my 452 (when it arrives!) extended.
I like a bike that has some vibration, it give it character, and I think many modern riders are after or too use to smooth motors. I once rode a vintage BSA single, now that had vibration. I own a 1988 HD Lowrider, it vibrates, but it is more a shake or deep vibration with the 36 year old rubber mounts.
Vibes or not, they are walking out the door, very hard to get. Says allot.
What I love about this video: A youtuber that actually pays attention to traffic!
I would say yes. If you are sensitive to the frequency of the vibes a particular bike puts out, that is absolutely a reason not to buy it. For example many people say the 890 Adventure is smooth, yet if you read between the lines on some of even the early reviews you'll find mention of the vibrations. It's a high frequency vibration so not like a Thumper and something which I find far more annoying than the thud of a decently balanced single cylinder bike. It's not peg vibes that most are sensitive to, it's handlebar vibes, then seat and pegs.
Very thorough review! Thank you. Sounds like I should be leaning towards the Honda CB500X if I’m planning longer motor way jaunts.
Nice vid. Can I ask which chin mount you’re using for your DJI?
I would say a way around it would be to fit highway pegs to a low crash bar if they do offer one. The pegs can be bought from amazon/ebay for peanuts. That should alleviate that issue.
Good video to make though as I heard people complaining about this.
Keep up the good work and stay rolling! 🏍 👍🏿
I have heard that there might be some QC issues in RE where the vibes may depend on the individual unit.
fyi: my 390 Adventure starts vibrating at 5,000 rpm (55 mph) ... noticeable, but not too objectionable (for short periods). My bottom gets sore after about 20 minutes; neoprene sheets (available in various thicknesses on Amazon) dampen vibration more than foam variations. Right-side peg vibrates most (also on my Grom/MSX125). Unusually informative (and thorough) video; THANKS.
About the short side stand. I was watching a video from Teacher T, he was going to review the new Himalayan and couldn’t upright the bike at all. Also the stand on the Interceptor 650 is extremely short and most owners add about an inch to the foot.
RE can get some things right but manage to drop the ball on the simplest task.
As an Interceptor owner my bike has been in a constant improvement stage. With enough time and money it’ll eventually be near perfect.
RE should offer a comfort package of isolastic bar mounts and larger touring pegs.
As they used the engine as part of the frame the enfeild engineers should look at the vibration on the bike to see if they could partly subdue the vibes as it could effect sales out side India ,and make the stand longer ,it’s good value and it dose what it says on the tin
Good review, buzzy is a better choice of words , i dont think many riders today have ever ridden an old british single .
Cracking review. Thanks for highlighting the kickstand, might be suspect with a heavy dry bag on the seat. BTW my old MZ has a rubber mounted engine and is turbine smooth, Himi is a bit better looking😂
Hey, thanks for the notes and the comparison. One thing - the 2024 390 ADV doesn't have the same engine as the 2024 Svartpilen 401. It's a newer motor.
Would your rather ride the heavier but smoother Shotgun 650 for riding in the city? (Not off, not travels)
I found the Honda NX500 to be so smooth due to the parallel twin. The price difference isn’t huge either!
Well spare parts are costly...
Wgy would you need spare parts unless you crash it. Its a honda and doesn't require replacing failed parts all the time. @@srinathiyengar.mudgal
Parallel twin engines should be standard. Single cylinder motorcycles should truly not be built anymore. The performance and overall smoothness of a twin makes it the perfect engine. They need to give people more two cylinder small bore dirt bikes. A KLR450 twin would be a way better motorcycle than a KLR650 single.
i have noticed that my Himalayan vibrates the most from 95 kph ( 59 mph) to 126 kph ( 78 mph ) after 126 kph its smooth out so my preferred pace is 80 kph or directly jump to 130 kph
That’s really frustrating for Australia. The freeways are all 110km/h and going 130 or higher is a very big fine/penalty
The vibes are really bad at highway speeds at certain RPM and gears, otherwise it’s pretty normal I thought. Also, ride it off road and you won’t feel anything!
I don't think that, even comprehensive videos like this, will help quantify the amount of vibrations one feels. I had a DRZ 400. It didn't feel vibey to me. I could ride that for a long time. That is something I can compare to, because I know how it feels. Test riding a bike is a must if one considers buying it.
Does that windshield do anything?
it's a single....................expect vibes, I don't understand how riders complain of vibes, it's a motorbike, with an engine..............................doh!
Lots of bikes are smooth - maybe you haven't ridden many?
I have always loved singles, especially my Aprilia 660..... the thing about vibes on this is that they make it feel like a 125. Not like the thumping shaky 660 single I had. Ordered shotgun 650 instead.
You're not going to be able to properly assess engine vibration until the motor is fully run in and has some mileage on the clock. Fact!
What jacket and jeans are you wearing?
I did test ride one last week and yes it is vibey. Enough for me to ask for my deposit back
They should have put a very, very, very tall overdrive gear ratio 6th gear. I am so glad you refused to buy it. Consumers need to stop putting up with the lack of an overdrive transmission. It's the short gear ratios that cause the vibration at highway speeds.
Quando compreiminha yamaha teneré 600z em 1991 zero km, pensei que ia desmontar pela vibração nos primeiros km. Melhorou muito depois, mas quem não quer vibraçâo nunca compre um mono com mais de 200cc.
I've had my ktm 390 adventure for 3 years I use it every day to commute to work and I've had bad vibes through the pegs since day one and now it's getting really bad and I'm sure it's causing problems with my feet I was looking at the himalayan 450 as a replacement but now I'm thinking against it and more back towards the triumph scrambler 400x.
We have the 411 and I have to say I love that bike for what it is. I could get past the Pulsar(ugly) look of the 450 but the modes kill it for me. They should have put one ABS switch with 3 positions(T7'24). That would have been all it needed.
The one I test road I did find a little vibey at 70. But take it slightly over the 70 & the vibes defo dropped so you can defo find a harmonic that you can live with. And as others have said non of these bikes are any where near run in properly yet. Still a great bike though IMHO.
The tester I road in march had significant buzzing and vibes. My own I got last Monday is a lot better. Barely noticeable after 250 km but not yet ridden a lot of Autobahn (motorway) as 5k rev limits me to 100 kmh.
Shocked by your vid, Bob...i saw blue sky!!!??? AND sun & shade?!? What's going on there!!?? Ta for your feedback & infos on the New Himi & THAT other 400er....
That’s our one good day this year I guess…
Skipped forward later and it was no better, still inducing sea sickness. Steady on please so I can try and enjoy your content.
What a great vid, but please please get hold of a CF Moto 450, really looking forward to see how that compares
Being a first gen Himalayan owner, I had booked the Himalyan 450 the days bookings opened. However when I finally got to get a test ride, decided to cancel the booking because of the excessive vibrations. Maybe it was a one off defective test bike but my hand had a tingling sensation for almost 5 mins after a 2 km test ride.
Are you sure you haven't a carpal tunnel problem,
@@stuartlangley4697 for sure not. Test rode the triumph scrambler 400x afterwards.. booked that.
Test rode a Husqvarna 401 yesterday, it was better than the Himalayan but the triumph was the best in terms of vibrations.
Maybe I'm used to the smoothness of long stroke singles which the Classic 500 nd Himalayan 411 had (my previous bikes).
Hi I have a new Himalayan 452, coming up to 500 Kms.And to be honest really don't have a problem, found my Honda CRF 300 l a lot more vibration especially on left bar,but I haven't tried the other bikes.
At low RPM, vibration isn't annoying. I haven't rode one but generally if you could buy a smaller rear sprocket and drop 10 teeth or 15 teeth, it would be a good bike for North America or general day to day driving. Modern motorcycles are geared for a race track, not a comfortable street ride at 55 mph.
Let me get a mini ADV to spend my time in the motorway 😂. This is meant to be used off road or country roads where vibration isn't an issue.
When it comes to the side stand maybe RE missed a trick here? Why not design an Adjustable side stand? As for vibes for me it wouldn’t be a problem as I would hazard a guess it would probably disappear after it’s probably run in like most bikes! Interesting tho!
Try it again on a bike that has done 3k miles, rather than a tight new one.
Just ride at the speed/ revs where it feels comfortable. you'll figure it our by the 4th or 5th ride. If you're giving it welly, you will have more important things to concentrate on.
Strange how subjective the vibe thing is. I find that my Scram 411 is quite smooth up to 55 mph , beyond that the vibes become more noticable but not annoying. My Honda NC 750x seems to have a somewhat harsh vibe at any engine speed below 4000 rpm making it somewhat the opposite of the Scram . Test ride before you buy is sound advice !
Interesting to hear what you say about the NC. Never ridden one but very tempted. I rode a Scram for a couple of hours and enjoyed it but you know it’s a single especially on the overtakes. Good fun though except on the motorway.
It’s a single. They vibe.
How do you get the video to show the dash?
Set the camera to 25fps
new bikes vibe more and some people 'reviewing' these bikes are quick to say anything to grab attention - anyone who bought a new one knows this. I remember my 1st brand new bike which was an R1 I had massive desire for and saved so hard to get, I nearly took it back and asked for the return of my GSXR 750 i traded in for it because it was horrible at 1st - i went to the shop and they told me what was what and surely enough after 1st service and every 100 mile after that it got smoother and smoother - experience matters.
FTR a 450 single will vibrate and buzz - it just will - if that is not acceptable it is the wrong bike.
Vibes through the bars and seat are much more distracting, to me, than vibes through the foot pegs. The Triumph 400 sounds like it's far better in this respect.
Please check with Chappal and shorts and let us Know.
A motorcycle riding background check on those who bitterly complain about vibes and heat on the H450 will help us understand this issue better. Most who complain are coming from much smaller CC motorcycles or never ridden a midsize single much.
I have owned a Himalayan 411 since 2016 and a classic 500 for 4 years before that. I cancelled my 450 booking because of the unpleasant vibrations
are sir aap idhar? 😆😆😆
People don't know difference between
1. a new design venture
2. Comparo with CBD's & CKD's
3. At least for others cost doesn't matter
4. Spare availability
5. Cost effectiveness for Maintenance
@shantanu766 totally agree,I love single cylinder bikes but the vibes were just too much. Cancelled Himalayan order and ordered shotgun 650.
Are you for real
If they think that 450 is too ‘vibey’…wait until they try a Royal Enfield with a 500/535 engine. One better, wait until they try a vintage motorcycle. I’m all for
Comfort, but WAY too many softies these days. It’s a motorcycle, one SHOULD feel the pulses, the feedback, etc happening between one’s legs and hands. Go take up crocheting or quilting if you want gentle
Not directed at the channel host, I’m speaking in general.
Or the bike is just unrefined. I alway found the rotax 650 motor in the F650 and G650x pretty smooth.
You are correct , there are those who know stuff and those who dont .
Looked at the RE Himalayan on Sunday at Fowlers in Bristol, could not believe how heavy it was and the weight is to high. If your off roading more then get a CRF300L if you want a good looking better looking bike get the new Triumph 400. The Himalayan is an improvement but the orginal wasnt exactly great, but each to their own i don't see the attraction.
The Himalayan 450 of is one of the best looking motorcycles ever made in the last 10 years. There are very few motorcycles that are absolutely stunning, and it's one of them. Every single piece and part on it is perfectly designed. Most motorcycles today are so ugly that they shouldn't be sold to the public.
If your 'thinking' about engine sound and vibration, you're not on the right surface.
Bruh, Zack vibes in broad daylight
I've always ridden with the balls of my feet on the pegs 😊
thats mph right?? at 3:47 60 mph
kmph isnt that fast as itlooks like
get a 150cc or Japanese twin if vibes and buzzes so much irritate..
or
a nice plush sofa couch if none of the above is viable. enjoy riding man. the engine is designed for those outputs.
its vibration.. not associated with bike thts the problem..when it is with feel of bike then its the characteristics of engine..in this case its not..so its a vibration.
As pointed out in many comments below, and from some reports of med/high mileage bikes in India, the engine will smooth out significantly after 5-10,000 km. In comparison I have a V11 Moto Guzzi 1046cc V-twin. The main vibes betwen 3500-4500 took well over 12,000 km to disappear.
Second point is that fitting slightly weightier bar end weights is a simple fix for vibes through the bars. These are cheap and simple to fit.
I don’t think you can get rid of the vibes on a single can you
If they can't get the side stand right, then I don't trust the rest of it !
They couldn't get it right cos they had to put a center stand. They managed to do what they could.
Honestly, it's better to not have a center stand than this mess.
It depends on your luck....some are vibey and others are not.
More vibes than a KLR? less?
To me honest i'm more concernet about engine heat, i've been chatting with some Indian owners and a lot of them told me that sometimes, especially in traffic the heat from the engine is almost unbearable
You should try an Aprillia RSV1000 if you need a comparison. Mine was like a mobile sauna in heavy traffic
Somehow I don’t think we’ll have that problem here in the UK.
The speed here in india is about 20 to 30 kmph many time you are literally crawling in traffic so don't compare it as you well not face that kind of issue and the bike becomes smoother after 5k km .
@@hdslytro387 I wish mate, I would have to commute in Rome and traffic is just as bad :P
I'm sensitive to vibes... hence i ride a Guzzi 😉😁
Your camera swinging around all over the intro made me feel quite sick! I had to switch off....
Just close your eyes
Wrong bike to compare. KTM 390 Adv or Triumph 400 Scrambler would have been better imo.
The worst thing in the Universe in 2024 is that motorcycles refuse to have a proper 6th gear overdrive.
Why are people tolerating low geared streetbikes with no overdrive in 6th?
An overdrive transmission would negate 99% of vibration by putting an actual load on the engine. It should be turning 3000 rpms at cruising speed.
We need to stop tolerating these horrible low gear ratios.
Why are you obsessed on comparing the himalayan adventure with scramblers ? Don't you know the difference? Vibes are vibes why not put against ktm voge, honda , and put the 401 against triumph , hog that would be better, but what do I know I'm not getting kick backs ?
copycat.
if someone cant tolerate minor vibes. then its better to ride electric bike
Talking much with the hands while riding? Don't do that!
Bearable, tolerable.... no thanks.
Well I'm on a 05 KLR, and it shakes so much my mirrors are worthless and my feet are not happy after 4 or 5 hours.. Sooo I cant imagine any thin as bas as the KLR. Which is an Antiquated turd..