Also Jetfire seemed to degenerate quite a bit after being left to rust for a mere few decades in a museum, so most likely The Fallen would have suffered from somthing akin to this, as we didn't see him very active before OP's death, and even after that seemed quite slow... Seing that Jetfire seemed to still be quite agile in spite of his degeneracy, the parts now restored when used to upgrade OP seemed to make him much quicker, most likely in combination of the MoL's power... And we need to remember also that when OP went to fight The Fallen after being revived/repaired/upgraded he was clearly out for blood, even Megs, that was already not really at the level of OP but quite close at the movie beginning, was now so far behind Prime, seeing how the autobot disarmed and badly damaged his old rival in a one sided ass-handing makes it looks less bad for the Fallen
1:00 he actually didnt use the matrix that time he destroyed the sun harvester but offscreen he got the matrix of leader ship back so he didnt actually use the matrix in that battle
I think the fallen needed the Allspark to restore his body to its prime. His brothers greatly damaged him thats why he needed that life support chair. If Megatron successfully escaped with the allspark he would have upgraded the Fallen and build an army.
I agree, it was never told in 07 film what was the decepticons intentions with theballspark other than to make a army, they needed the allspark to heal the fallen!
FYI ,Fallen could've easily beaten Optimus without having Megatron to ambush him at all But since the prophecy of "Only a Prime can beat the Fallen was stuck in his head" so he didn't want to take the risk( even though there wasn't any)😂 The prophecy ended up true bcoz Optimus got killed but revived again and got even more Powerful than ever because of Jetfire which fulfilled the prophecy of The Fallen's death..
make a theory on , what does quintessa ,from where she came from ,what does she from nemesis prime and why does unicron's horns was growing on earth in tlk.
Funny enough the third and fourth reason makes sense as this even happened in his battle with his brothers, the wiki of this explains that the fallen after defeating his brothers one by one was overconfident that he became weak by this last attempt of using his powers that the last prime was able to use this chance, use the body of his dead brothers and banish him into another dimension.
There a chance that the fallen wasn't able to use it cost it's a prime and a prime in era where he didn't betrayed his brother has the same power but didn't use I mean we saw a whole battlefield full of Cybertronian fighting each other and the fallen was weak in combat cost his time was only close range and Optimus was more powerful because of the battle he gotten in Cybertron and they usually travel alot planet to planet do that mean their no limit on his teleport power
Yeah these reasons definitely make sense. There is just one small mistake you made in this video. Now maybe I missed something or interpreted what you said wrong, but at 0:56 - 1:06, the way you mentioned your reason implied that Optimus also had the Matrix along with Jetfire's parts, even though earlier we clearly saw the Fallen rip the Matrix out of him, teleported away with it, and inserted it into the star harvester, and we never even saw Optimus try to retrieve it when he tackled the Fallen and destroyed the Harvester with the matrix still inside the machine, so Optimus clearly just had Jetfire's parts, and not the matrix as well, although if you are actually implying that the Matrix gave him a power boost when reviving him, even after it has been ripped out, then yeah that could make sense, though it wasn't implied in the movie if it could or not. It's just it sounded like you implied that he had the Matrix itself in him still when he fought the Fallen. I know it may not be important, I just thought I'd point that out. Other than all that, great video.
To be honest we only see him fight against Jetpower Optimus which (expect Quintessa and Unicron) is stronger then him as we see in the fight so yeah,I don't really think it's weak it was just unlucky to face the Only Transformer stronger then him at that time
Can you make a theory about the writers strike on how it made ROTF a bad movie while it suppose to be good. It's not bays fault that rotf was bad, it was the writers strike.
The reason why the Fallen didn't use his powers on Optimus Prime is because none of them could work on a Prime. That's why he says only a Prime can beat him.
Also Jetfire seemed to degenerate quite a bit after being left to rust for a mere few decades in a museum, so most likely The Fallen would have suffered from somthing akin to this, as we didn't see him very active before OP's death, and even after that seemed quite slow... Seing that Jetfire seemed to still be quite agile in spite of his degeneracy, the parts now restored when used to upgrade OP seemed to make him much quicker, most likely in combination of the MoL's power... And we need to remember also that when OP went to fight The Fallen after being revived/repaired/upgraded he was clearly out for blood, even Megs, that was already not really at the level of OP but quite close at the movie beginning, was now so far behind Prime, seeing how the autobot disarmed and badly damaged his old rival in a one sided ass-handing makes it looks less bad for the Fallen
1:00 he actually didnt use the matrix that time he destroyed the sun harvester but offscreen he got the matrix of leader ship back so he didnt actually use the matrix in that battle
I think the fallen needed the Allspark to restore his body to its prime. His brothers greatly damaged him thats why he needed that life support chair. If Megatron successfully escaped with the allspark he would have upgraded the Fallen and build an army.
This things are explained in the movie i guess...
@@cars_squad2223 This is all speculation lol
I agree, it was never told in 07 film what was the decepticons intentions with theballspark other than to make a army, they needed the allspark to heal the fallen!
Yo I got a question in dotm when sams gf gets into sound waves car sideswipe and Dino show up why could they not detect soundwave?
Oh yeah
I always wandered about that
FYI ,Fallen could've easily beaten Optimus without having Megatron to ambush him at all But since the prophecy of "Only a Prime can beat the Fallen was stuck in his head" so he didn't want to take the risk( even though there wasn't any)😂
The prophecy ended up true bcoz Optimus got killed but revived again and got even more Powerful than ever because of Jetfire which fulfilled the prophecy of The Fallen's death..
Thats Why we need to think how to beat the enemy
Just like lockdown
Maybe not the first one but I really like the clip, it's very meaningful and I love Transformers.
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make a theory on , what does quintessa ,from where she came from ,what does she from nemesis prime and why does unicron's horns was growing on earth in tlk.
Good theory he’s like paper
I was asking that question when he was seen in the film
Funny enough the third and fourth reason makes sense as this even happened in his battle with his brothers, the wiki of this explains that the fallen after defeating his brothers one by one was overconfident that he became weak by this last attempt of using his powers that the last prime was able to use this chance, use the body of his dead brothers and banish him into another dimension.
I love your explanation edformers bro keep telling about tf theory and easter eggs
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There a chance that the fallen wasn't able to use it cost it's a prime and a prime in era where he didn't betrayed his brother has the same power but didn't use I mean we saw a whole battlefield full of Cybertronian fighting each other and the fallen was weak in combat cost his time was only close range and Optimus was more powerful because of the battle he gotten in Cybertron and they usually travel alot planet to planet do that mean their no limit on his teleport power
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Great theory mate!!!
Finally someone states that the fight was so bad because the fallen was weak
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I don't believe in upgrades on a bot I self bet megatronus and you are right on over uses power he just went over board
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i think prime still dont have the matrix yet as it was in the machine when it blew up, im suggesting prime get the matrix after the battle
Yeah these reasons definitely make sense. There is just one small mistake you made in this video. Now maybe I missed something or interpreted what you said wrong, but at 0:56 - 1:06, the way you mentioned your reason implied that Optimus also had the Matrix along with Jetfire's parts, even though earlier we clearly saw the Fallen rip the Matrix out of him, teleported away with it, and inserted it into the star harvester, and we never even saw Optimus try to retrieve it when he tackled the Fallen and destroyed the Harvester with the matrix still inside the machine, so Optimus clearly just had Jetfire's parts, and not the matrix as well, although if you are actually implying that the Matrix gave him a power boost when reviving him, even after it has been ripped out, then yeah that could make sense, though it wasn't implied in the movie if it could or not. It's just it sounded like you implied that he had the Matrix itself in him still when he fought the Fallen. I know it may not be important, I just thought I'd point that out. Other than all that, great video.
To be honest we only see him fight against Jetpower Optimus which (expect Quintessa and Unicron) is stronger then him as we see in the fight so yeah,I don't really think it's weak it was just unlucky to face the Only Transformer stronger then him at that time
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he teleportated to future
The real world reason was because of the writers strike.
Also I think that the fallen's spark wasn't at full power how's that for another theory
Was he close to quintessa
Where did cybertronian go after they died?
Can you make a theory about the writers strike on how it made ROTF a bad movie while it suppose to be good. It's not bays fault that rotf was bad, it was the writers strike.
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Same
Or the writers did not find a way to kill a villain so powerful so just simply throw out every logic.
Please optimus prime origin
another reason is michael bay nerfs every decepticon
Megatron
Soundwave
Shockwave
Starscream
Devastator
how did he survive he's stabed in the chest 😮😮😮❤
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When iron hide die I cry 😢😭but iron can beat megatron bro is strong enough to beat megatron 🫡😎
Nice but the matrix only revived him it didnt do anything else special
Prime would still win if the fallen was stronger than him
Jetfire was right only Optimus Prime can defeat the Fallen.
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Jet Power optimus to fallen
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The reason why the Fallen didn't use his powers on Optimus Prime is because none of them could work on a Prime. That's why he says only a Prime can beat him.
Except we already saw him use his teleportation on Optimus when he stomped on him and teleported away
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