*** PART TWO *** - If you enjoyed this video, check out part 2! A LOT more cruise ships have been scrapped and sold since this video was made. Catch up on them here: ua-cam.com/video/PFEYnh2E2wc/v-deo.html
People do tend to get attached to particular ships. So, this transition can be an emotional one. Memories remain, and, soon, cruising returns. So, we think many happy cruise days are ahead for all of us. Thanks for sharing this update, Emma.
I could listen to your beautiful voice and accent ALL DAY, Emma! The pace of your speech is just perfect. We last sailed, on the Allure Of The Seas, in December 2019. It was a wonderful cruise, but it seems like it was DECADES ago now. We really want to cruise again, but realistically we have no idea when that might be. It won’t be until this whole COVID-19 thing is over - whenever that might be. It’s really very sad what this pandemic is doing to the travel and hospitality industries. I honestly don’t know how a lot of cruise lines, airlines, and hotels are going to be able to make it through this unprecedented and awful time. Take care, Emma! You have a new sub! 😷
Emma Cruises Glad I could help, Emma! I really like your videos! Keep them coming, please! I’m kind of jealous of young people like you because (1) you’re YOUNG!, and (2) you pursue your passions! People of my generation - let’s just say I’m close to being a “senior citizen” now - didn’t do that very much. We were taught to keep our noses to the grindstone and become “successful”, and as a consequence of that a lot of us missed out on doing a lot of things we were passionate about when we were young enough to fulfill those passions. I’m thankful for YT because I can live vicariously through young people like you - who ACT on their passions! All the best, Emma! 🧡🧡🧡
You are too kind! I'm still stuck in the corporate 9-5 at the moment but am doing everything I can to spend all of my free time on something I love (this) 😁🎉 Lovely comments like yours make it all worth it. I appreciate it!
Thank you for reconfirming my thought that I am far more interested in the more intimate river cruises than paying to spend a week on a floating city block.
very useful info, cant understand why people feel need to leave dislike for an video that has so much good info, keep up excellent work Emma, Your vids offer a great mindful escape in these current times, Thank you
Thanks Emma, very informative. It's sad to see the older RCL Vision Class ships being sold. We had a great time on them during our early cruising years.
Watching your videos during the Coronavirus Crisis has soured me on the entire industry. I will not be cruising again and regret most of the money I have wasted on cruises in the past. Thanks for helping me get a much healthier attitude about conspicuous consumption.
Emma- wow, you really know your stuff!! I did a RC Alaska Cruise last year on the Allure. Amazing how far these ships have come in the last decade. Taking a cruise with you would be a whole new adventure!
Only 2 years ago I was on a great cruise with the "Costa Victoria". From Mauritius to the Seychelles, Madagascar, Reunion and back to Mauritius. Wonderful adventure. Excellent ship. This is very sad news.
P&O Pacific Dawn was just sold to private investors who will park it off the coast of Panama to create a community of startups. People can buy individual cabins starting at $25k USD. She is renamed the MS Satoshi, in honor of Satoshi Nakamoto (the anonymous creator of bitcoin). Pretty exciting to see how that goes :)
I for one will be sorry to Oceana go. She was my 1st P&O cruise ship and I loved her. I have also been on her sister ship, Sea Princess for a cruise in SE Asia. I have kind of got used to traditional cruising but....I have been persuaded to (excuse the pun) jump ship to Emma's favourite cruise line NCL for 21 & 22. The prices of the cruise package for NCL for a solo cruiser are just too good to ignore. The only negative seems to be the NCL extras like excursions ....They are priced way too high. However with careful planning and using 3rd parties I can work round this. Also £11 per day gratuities plus 20% gratuities for on the stuff you buy onboard will make me wary, but for-warned is forearmed! The included drinks & speciality dining mean I don't really have to spend too much more on board! Thanks Emma, can't wait for your Iona review
Sad to see loss of the Celebration- was booked on it for this August, and it's more comfortable than the Marella Dream. The larger ships are more profitable, but I prefer to get to know the staff & passengers, and avoid congestion at embarkation & tender ports.
I think the Marella Dream is gonna be soon. Marella, and TUI themselves are having serious financial issues, TUI has closed half of their stores, and Marella have sold one of their ships.
@@OfficialAmazePlays The Dream has been scrapped but I am not all that shocked. We did a cruise back in 2019 on it and it was in pretty bad shape. The staff were wonderful but I think the right decision was made to get rid of it.
so much information I couldt find a pen to write all this down ! good job! instead the ones going to scrap yard should be quarantines residence or hospital in this times
A while ago, Carnival Corporation said in a regulatory filing that it would dispose of six ships within 90 days and maybe more. Today, they announced its nine brands would remove 13 ships from their fleets in the coming months. They also said they would add new ships at a slower pace over the next couple of years. Sad but with the decline in cruising, companies just have to shrink their fleet.
So far there are 9 confirmed departures for Carnival Corporation: 1. Costa Victoria 2. Oceana 3. Maasdam 4. Rotterdam 5. Veendam 6. Amsterdam 7. Costa neoRomantica 8. Carnival Fantasy 9. Carnival Inspiration The sale of Pacific Dawn and Pacific Aria may get moved from 2021 to 2020, especially if CMV has to back out of the purchase. Carnival Imagination and Carnival Fascination are being put into long term storage (cold layup) and likely will be sold when scrap markets improve.
It’s all over. There will eventually be mostly only mega ships left which means millions of cruisers like those in my circle of friends and family will elect against ever sailing again. Sovereign Class size vessels and smaller being almost entirely eliminated is a foolish decision that the cruise lines will regret. Say goodbye too to the many smaller wonderful ports of call which the mega ships can’t get into.
I enjoyed this video. I'm looking into cruising lately and your videos are superb. I'm not sure if you found out in the two years since you have made this video but you pronounce CMV Ida Pfeiffer as Ida Fiver (phonetically)
Cruise ships could be driven up a harbor or a river ...and they could dig out an area next to riverfront & allow it to be backfilled around it ...and now you have permanent apartment complex!! I don’t understand why they don’t consider doing this... Also cruise ships could be reused as spaceships because they do have the technology to make them go to outer space....Of course it would take some retrofitting but not that much
one of the reasons to keep only large ships is when sale 5000 passenger ship at half capacity you still have 2500 people on board a 2000 passinger ship will only have 1000 not a chance to make any money
Thanks for this, I often wondered how to half large numbers and now I've realized I just need to divide by 2. Maybe the cost of operating a cruise ship with a capacity of 2000 is a lot less than one of 5000?
So much to wonder about these days. Disney ordered three new ships and I’m sure they will be just fine at the end of the day when this is over. I’ve seen some of the older Carnival ships when I was on a cruise and I guess they appeal to some people that want really cheap cruises. I’d much rather be on a newer ship with a balcony myself. The Oasis class is too big and never really felt like I was actually on a cruise a lot of the time. Did the Oasis twice. Love Disney and want to go on another so bad. Very interesting piece you put together and add to it your super cuteness and accent and I’m now a subscriber. If I can come up with $150,000,000 I’ll gladly take you on a cruise. LOL.
It makes sense to get rid of newer ships of the same size, as they are probably still being paid off, or certainly haven’t yet been fully depreciated. So the carrying cost is higher than an older vessel that has met these 2 tests.
0.0 geez bro. Amazing idea. Quite original. If i'm not wrong there is one old cruise that went out of service because it was working for too long and had this destiny, isnt?
The more cruise ships that are scrapped the better for the environment. Cruise ships are polluters, they don’t pay taxes, they still dump pollutants into the sea, and they make minimal contributions to the destinations they visit. It’s an industry that needs to be completely revamped.
Such an ill informed comment and makes me doubt you have ever been on a cruise ship. If you had, you would know that most destination ports are heavily reliant on the tourist dollars being spent on shore excursion trips, restaurants, landmark entry fees etc. if in doubt, visit Montenegro and ask the people how desperate they are to keep the cruise ship tourists arriving each day. Their livelihoods depend on it. Cruise lines do pay taxes at destinations in the form of port fees and charges, which are significant. Cruise liners are fully self contained for waste (sewage), they collect and offload general waste at ports. The engines do emit carbon emissions due to burning a fossil fuel, but then, so do passenger jets, cars and buses. So until we don’t need transportation, that won’t be changing any time soon. Don’t even fantasise about electric powered ships and aircraft, it is an engineering impossibility with the technology we have now and in the foreseeable future. Certainly not in our lifetime.
Joffie , actually I have been on a cruise once but that’s another horror story. I live in a Caribbean island that has cruise ships visit throughout the winter months and we own a shop that is heavily reliant on the cruise ship business, I was also on the board of the local port authority for several years and know full well the revenues collected from the cruise ships. So let’s analysis your rather naive comments. The following comments do not apply to The small cruise ships with 800 passengers or less. Large Cruise ship passengers spend on average $22 per head. Compared to stay over visitors who spend $250 per head per day. Cruise ship passengers pay no entry fees or departure fees and are not required to present passports to immigration on arrival. Cruise ship passengers rarely eat in local restaurants. They book 90% of their tours on the ship who in return hire local tour operators paying between 25%to 30% of the rate collected on the ship. Cruise ships burn the dirtiest cheapest fuels and severely polluted our town with their particulates when they are in port. They dump their garbage on our island that has little enough room for our own garbage, they fill their tanks with our valuable water supplies. The passengers arrive in their thousands and pollute our pristine beaches with their plastic waste and cigarette butts (yes we actually pick up their garbage early in the mornings after they leave to keep the beach clean). As for the treatment of the islanders who work on the ships, this is beyond appalling. No sick pay no days off long hours at very low rates, no paid holidays, no pension plans and of course no effective union to represent their interests. Finally the taxes collected are six times less than are collected from the yachts that visit our shores. You might ask why we allow them here. In a word the politicians love them because the numbers are impressive but this is going to backfire now as no one here wants to see overweight, greasy Covid ridden American tourists on our shores in the near or hopefully distant future. There is no real benefit to our islands from this greedy corporate industry that abuses our local workers and who totally disrespect our culture. So the more large cruise ships that get scrapped the better.
Russ Fielden Well your experience in the Caribbean is different to what I have experienced ashore. We spend plenty at each location we visit. You can’t spend the whole day without eating, drinking etc. The occasional taxi here and there, souvenir shopping; it all adds up. When the cruise industry restarts, perhaps they’ll bypass the Caribbean altogether and you can miss out on getting any money. All the overworked staff can find other lucrative jobs to feed themselves and their families. I hope to visit soon.
Joffie i am from the Caribbean and have seen and experienced the increasingly negative impact cruise ships have on our culture and environment. Small cruise ships are welcome, the passengers on these are generally civil, respectful,spend more money and stay longer and even return as stay over visitors. It’s these monster ships disgorging thousands of badly behaved people who literally spend nothing on our shores but leave behind their plastic cups and straws and cigarette ends. I have Taken part in Cruise ship conventions in Argentina, Mexico and Miami and have seen the statistics of average spend. In Cozumel it’s $110 per person, in the Windward islands it’s $22. According to The World Bank it will take over a hundred years without interest to repay the loans taken out to build cruise ship docks. A hundred years! In Montgomery bay it will take 180 years. Great investment eh! Do you think Carnival pays for these facilities? No they just cleverly play one set of corrupt politicians against another and get these facilities built for free for them at massive cost to these small island developing states. And yes you are right there is work to be had on cruise ships and without that work remittances to families would evaporate but that doesn’t make it right to abuse Islanders with low pay and long hours. As I said in my original statement the industry needs to be revamped. I am not advocating the demise of the industry. but I would like to see the downsizing the ships, an increase in the price of the cruise so that smaller ships can be profitable and that the industry forced to register their ships in their home ports where they will be subjected to the rule of law and pay taxes that other shore based industry pay. ,
Thanks Emma, very enlightening! Oceana being sold would have been Carnival directed. They have ruined the cruise industry and favoured huge ships stuffed full of guests ripe for cash processing. Company loyalty to faithful returning guests has long since disappeared. I used to be a cruise ambassador but not any more! ;-(
Hi Emma, l can understand why people are upset about losing the Oceana. She is a wonderful Sun class, my wife and I traveled the world on her sister the beautiful Sea Princess. Being able to get into smaller ports was a real treat. We have also traveled on the other's, the Sun Princess and the Dawn Princess ( now Pacific Explorer I think ). To have just under 2000 on board is something I prefer too having 5000. Thanks for the video, Steve.
😞 - so many of the ships I once cruised on - may be sold, may be scrapped!! I like the smaller ships - perfect fit for me - but right now - who knows?? Thanks Emma - keep the informative videos coming!!
No mystery here.... All of these ships have one thing in common: A lack of verandahs... Its more difficult to sell inside/oceanview staterooms so discounting is more dynamic impacting the overall ship per diem.
When the ships have ports of registration like London, Southampton I might be disappointed. But I can't get upset about ugly metal blocks of flats registered in Liberia or Panama being scrapped.
No cruise line could afford to hire all its employees in England even if they could FIND enough qualified workers. Even if they WANT to pay their taxes -- the "flag nation" hiring restrictions are pretty brutal. For the US you have to have mostly American staff and an American captain. Not to mention US minimum wage and everything else involved. There is a reason there is only one US Flagged cruise ship. (it sails around the Hawaiian Islands and since it has no foreign nations to stop at it has to comply with the Jones Act and be US flagged) Price a cruise on that one... its not cheap.
@@redwolfexr agreed ALSO ..Marellla the british cruise line mentioned in the vid had all of their ship registered in Malta , st phillips ect ....the registration of a ship apart from tax laws and paying crews ect rests on the country / ports of registration too as a lot of countries /ports have a LOT LESS restrictions than the U.K same as with the U.S and the Jones act! thats why they are registered in some godforsaken backwater port ..or a country that couldn't give two hoots about what staff get paid and what safety standards are adheard too apart from SOLAS obv as that covers all ships no matter where they are registered! ....I hate the fact the crew get paid peanuts ect they ares so friendly ect but then again thats why the cruise lines hire a lot from the Philippines and eastern block countries for jobs like cabin stewards , waiters , bar staff ect cause they can pay em peanuts but back home thats prob a fortune to them sadly!
I went on a cruise with Salamis Filoxenia she may be old ( launched in the mid. 70s ) but it's like being on the Titanic ( Without the sinking) complete with boat decks , chains and bollards..
I think the one that looked similar to the one Royal Caribbean ship is either Sovereign of the Seas or Monarch of the Seas. Since both have been sold for scrap to a scrap yard in Turkey.
Also to add on, if Norwegian sells any ships they better not sell the Norwegian Sun, I was on her in a cruise with my family and another family that are friends of are when I was only 18 months ( I am now 17) and I would love to see her now before she goes.
So sad to see that since this video was posted, dozens of more ships are now marked for scrap, or being sold by all of the cruise lines. So far RCI Enchantment of the Seas has been spared, unlike its similar class brothers and sisters. Perhaps because of its unique rebuild and add ons idk. Still I really hope RCI and other companies find a new way to bring in state of the art, intriguing, and unique smaller ships for those who enjoy more destinations and smaller ports. RCI has always been the innovation leader if one can market this idea it would be RCI
I've been on the Empress and Majesty for shorter cruises to Cuba and the Bahamas. They had a 100th voyage celebration when I was on Empress (for the cruise to Cuba where you stay two days in Havana) and I was puzzled because Empress was obviously not a new ship. They explained that it was recommissioned as an RCL ship when Cuba opened up so the counter started over.
That ship name you can't pronounce (Ida Pfeiffer) is pronounced "eye-da fifer" - at least here in the U.S. Great information here, I've been watching your playlists on this subject and others - many thanks!
its not that these ships are bad but the fuel cost is what I think is causing these ships to be sold. If you look at the new carnival ships they are moving to lng fuel.
Great video Emma. Very worried about CMV, not least as I've a future cruise booked and have credit for another. Would be a real shame if the worlds oldest cruise ship Astoria (1948) never got her Autumn swansong as she was set to retire at end Autumn.
What is the scrap value of one of these ships, I was thinking of buying a small 3 berth weekend cruiser but this would make a nice boat to anchor in the Med for a month.
@@EmmaCruises go have a trundle around around on yacht world -> for sale -> power -> cruise ships you might recognise some them and how much they are selling for
Seems you like the smaller ships better. Norwegian Spirit was the last cruise ship I sailed on. Considering the mega makeover and lower demand, it should stay in the fleet. Definitely needed the overhaul.
I imagine, because of the time period and costs of what’s happening with this virus, any old cruise ship that when it’s time is coming up for a refit, would be looked at, to whether it’s worth spending millions on them or dispensing them
Yup the older the ship the more of a health risk. One of the worst things about older ships is the air conditioning. Years of circulating air builds up in the vents and can be a petri dish for virus.The flu, legionnaires disease and now Covid19 that is an aerosol and could be lethal in air conditioning
Emma, I have been loyal to Royal... Granduer and Enchantment have been my favorites. Brilliance has always been a nice one also, but what are they going to do about a ship for the Port of Baltimore? There is a slight bridge issue.
The Empress of the Seas has been anchored in Souda Bay, Crete Greece for over a week, local news reported it being here for decommissioning, to await being brought back into service. I don't know , it was previously doing cruises out of Miami and it seems to be to be an long and expensive voyage just to park it and wait out the pandemic.
Marella have done a great job with the 2 ex Royal Caribbean ships, renamed the Discovery 1 / 2 but cant be said for the Explorer 1 which hasnt been well thought out, some of the entertainment areas are to small, the buffet area is cramped and generally spread all over the place, it feels like an updated ferry. Mein Schiff ( Tui's German arm ) the previous owners were designed for their market and doesnt fit in well with the UK. Lets hope no more of the fleet is heading to Marella
My friend blew a lot of money on cruises, I spent the same exact amount of money on my Corvette and I saved and paid cash for it! He has memories though! 😉😆
There is a more recent video showing Fantasy and two other Carnival ships being scrapped in Turkey in the last couple of months. Rather interesting watching their last move being beached at full-throttle right next to each other.
That was the last cruise ship I was on, two years ago. Also shared a with the P&O Oceana in Malta when I sailed on the Spirit. It’s a shame the smaller ships are going down mainly because of age. As to the Spirit, it’s getting a $100+ million super makeover, and the previews look fascinating.
I have a suggestion for a video, with the bankruptcy of CMV, it would be interesting to have a video talking about what would happen to the ships from P&O Australia that were meant to be going towards CMV. At the moment all I know is that P&O AU is restructuring (again) to become more modern and in line with companies like RCI or NCL and they are getting rid of the Dawn and Aria as you mentioned and getting two Princess Cruises ships. I really don’t know what is going to happen but it is interesting.
Went on the p&o Dawn for my honeymoon in 2017, and then again in feb 2020. I think it only did 1 or 2 more cruises after my feb cruise before the covid cruise shutdown.
Yet another idea. In times of war and other emergencies. Cruise ships have often been made into Mercy ships hospital ships and all types of needed vessels. Every Nation should not curse the darkness But light a candle. A whisper in any ear is a possibility to change the direction of our world for the better.
I enjoy your videos as always. I enjoy cruising but not now. I am more interested in investing in cruise stocks. If you visit Vancouver Canada, I am happy to buy your a good dinner. Thank you for your effort and hard work. Take good care. Be safe every day and where.
100 Million USD for a ship? im sure they not getting that value as scrap are thay? Wouldnt it be more feasable to find a buyer for less then to scrap it? Unless , Do they get that much or more as scrap?
Cool vid. However, that pan of Royal Caribbean solidified my want to never go on a cruise. Looks like pure hell being stuck around that many people with nowhere to go. Blegh. But again, great vid. 👍🙂
I've heard about a couple of older Holland American ships as potentially being sold. Do you think with this virus that the move to large ships with more passengers is an idea that cruise lines may reevaluate?
IDK but "scale efficiency" is an issue here. There are minimum crewing requirements for ships regardless of size so smaller cruise ships generate less profit because they have a higher crew to passenger ratio. As you get bigger, the ratio of crew to passengers gets smaller which improves profit (usually at the expense of customer service). Bigger ships also have lower maintenance costs relative to the profit they generate because there is a minimum level of maintenance required for a Certification of Seaworthiness and more deck space increases the maintenance costs at a lower rate than the profit generated by that added capacity. It's all a "numbers game" which is based on the number of consumers for your product.
Of i was the cruise lines and had ships to scrap. I would sell off parts of the vessel to collectors and people looking for cheap furniture. Imagine getting a lifeboat or the bar of a ship in your house. The wheel can sell for a thousand bucks. They can make back decent funds from selling off these and reduce wasted funds in scrap. More money
I went on the Costa Serena sister ship of Costa Concordia Costa Pacifica Costa Favolosa Costa Fascinosa and for a holiday then returned to Alberta where I live they food is delicious yummm
I guess you meant 'the shipyard went bankrupt', not 'the scrapyard ...' when talking about Costa Victora's would-be sister ship Costa Olympia (at 2:27). Nice video, though.
2:08 My thought on the dirt cheap costa cruise forget it I guess you forgot what happened to the Costa concordia I don’t need that kind of a thrill again!
I'm really hoping that Grandeur of the Seas doesnt head for the scrapyard with the fall of Pullmantur. She is a fan favourite ship with a very loyal following. However, Enchantment is slated to sail from Baltimore in 2021, so putting Grandeur back in service would mean Enchantment moving from Baltimore. And Baltimore is not nearly large enough of a port to be able to handle 2 ships, much less 2 Vision class ships. That's just not financially feasible. So my fingers are crossed for Grandeur's future.
I'm on Grandeur right now. I don't have any kind of insider information, but she is manned and being kept functional for the moment. Never know what the future may bring, but for now, she's still sailing, and eagerly awaiting the day when operations can resume.
@@EmmaCruises Yes ma'am, this very moment. Signed on last week. Interesting times for a cruise officer. Tough times for many, since many departments have no purpose with no guests on board. A lot of crew stuck shore side, wondering how long it will be until they can get back to work.
@@Tiglath-Pileser3 Thank you so much for taking care of the old gal. I'm a big fan of the Vision class ships, and Baltimore sure loved Grandeur. Please stay safe out there!
Sadly I think the main cruise lines are making their fleets less diverse. All becoming similar sizes and generally similar to each other. They are in danger of losing some of their market.
*** PART TWO *** - If you enjoyed this video, check out part 2! A LOT more cruise ships have been scrapped and sold since this video was made. Catch up on them here: ua-cam.com/video/PFEYnh2E2wc/v-deo.html
Good News!
People do tend to get attached to particular ships. So, this transition can be an emotional one. Memories remain, and, soon, cruising returns. So, we think many happy cruise days are ahead for all of us. Thanks for sharing this update, Emma.
As usual Emma informative no nonsense just plain facts you have honesty running through you.
Thanks so much John! I try my best 🥳🎉
I could listen to your beautiful voice and accent ALL DAY, Emma! The pace of your speech is just perfect.
We last sailed, on the Allure Of The Seas, in December 2019. It was a wonderful cruise, but it seems like it was DECADES ago now. We really want to cruise again, but realistically we have no idea when that might be. It won’t be until this whole COVID-19 thing is over - whenever that might be.
It’s really very sad what this pandemic is doing to the travel and hospitality industries. I honestly don’t know how a lot of cruise lines, airlines, and hotels are going to be able to make it through this unprecedented and awful time.
Take care, Emma! You have a new sub! 😷
My goodness what a lovely comment! Thank you so much. I've had a terrible day and you've really cheered me up. Appreciate it! 😍❤️
Emma Cruises Glad I could help, Emma! I really like your videos! Keep them coming, please!
I’m kind of jealous of young people like you because (1) you’re YOUNG!, and (2) you pursue your passions! People of my generation - let’s just say I’m close to being a “senior citizen” now - didn’t do that very much. We were taught to keep our noses to the grindstone and become “successful”, and as a consequence of that a lot of us missed out on doing a lot of things we were passionate about when we were young enough to fulfill those passions.
I’m thankful for YT because I can live vicariously through young people like you - who ACT on their passions!
All the best, Emma! 🧡🧡🧡
You are too kind! I'm still stuck in the corporate 9-5 at the moment but am doing everything I can to spend all of my free time on something I love (this) 😁🎉
Lovely comments like yours make it all worth it. I appreciate it!
@EmmaCruises look at you! You did it-you made your own job! :D
Thank you for reconfirming my thought that I am far more interested in the more intimate river cruises than paying to spend a week on a floating city block.
very useful info, cant understand why people feel need to leave dislike for an video that has so much good info, keep up excellent work Emma, Your vids offer a great mindful escape in these current times, Thank you
Thank you lots! This one is quite out of date now, that’s probably why 😀❤️
Great video Emma, we loved our time onboard the Norwegian Sky in November so glad they aren’t selling that just yet!
What ever happed to the Norwegian Sun? That was my first cruise ever.
Thanks Emma, very informative. It's sad to see the older RCL Vision Class ships being sold. We had a great time on them during our early cruising years.
You have a joy for cruising in you voice and vlog. We do appreciate that.
Thanks Mike! 🥰❤️
Great 👍🏻 vlog Emma looking forward to more!! 🛳🌊🍹
We are regular P&O customers, tried Saga SOD on a four nighter, we loved the whole experience, worth every penny.
Watching your videos during the Coronavirus Crisis has soured me on the entire industry. I will not be cruising again and regret most of the money I have wasted on cruises in the past. Thanks for helping me get a much healthier attitude about conspicuous consumption.
Hey Chuck! Thanks for watching. That's interesting, what do you mean by that?
Brilliant video Emma! Very informative!
Thanks Chris 😉🤣♥️
Emma- wow, you really know your stuff!! I did a RC Alaska Cruise last year on the Allure. Amazing how far these ships have come in the last decade.
Taking a cruise with you would be a whole new adventure!
Only 2 years ago I was on a great cruise with the "Costa Victoria". From Mauritius to the Seychelles, Madagascar, Reunion and back to Mauritius. Wonderful adventure. Excellent ship. This is very sad news.
Emma is brilliant. I recently discovered her videos and am working my way through the catalog. Potato!
Thanks so much Rene! 😀❤️
P&O Pacific Dawn was just sold to private investors who will park it off the coast of Panama to create a community of startups. People can buy individual cabins starting at $25k USD. She is renamed the MS Satoshi, in honor of Satoshi Nakamoto (the anonymous creator of bitcoin). Pretty exciting to see how that goes :)
Oh goodness! That’s amazing. 😁❤️
That,s a great idea .i get sea sick this would solve my problem.
Sadly Satoshi (ex Paific Dawn) has been sold to the scrap yard. She's currently near the Panama Canal and is on her way to Alang India
I for one will be sorry to Oceana go. She was my 1st P&O cruise ship and I loved her. I have also been on her sister ship, Sea Princess for a cruise in SE Asia. I have kind of got used to traditional cruising but....I have been persuaded to (excuse the pun) jump ship to Emma's favourite cruise line NCL for 21 & 22. The prices of the cruise package for NCL for a solo cruiser are just too good to ignore. The only negative seems to be the NCL extras like excursions ....They are priced way too high. However with careful planning and using 3rd parties I can work round this. Also £11 per day gratuities plus 20% gratuities for on the stuff you buy onboard will make me wary, but for-warned is forearmed! The included drinks & speciality dining mean I don't really have to spend too much more on board! Thanks Emma, can't wait for your Iona review
Yesssss! NCL do tend to Nickle and dime you but sounds like you're already aware so that's the best thing haha 🤣♥️
Sad to see loss of the Celebration- was booked on it for this August, and it's more comfortable than the Marella Dream.
The larger ships are more profitable, but I prefer to get to know the staff & passengers, and avoid congestion at embarkation & tender ports.
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I think the Marella Dream is gonna be soon.
Marella, and TUI themselves are having serious financial issues, TUI has closed half of their stores, and Marella have sold one of their ships.
@@OfficialAmazePlays The Dream has been scrapped but I am not all that shocked. We did a cruise back in 2019 on it and it was in pretty bad shape. The staff were wonderful but I think the right decision was made to get rid of it.
great videos and good information
Thank you ♥️♥️
Nice video Emma! Just watched Chrises video and found your channel. Subbed! Also it’s “Pacific Arrr-e-a” when pronouncing Aria.
Hey hey! Welcome 😁🥳 Ahh yes, I had Oceana on the brain from earlier in the video! Ha ha.
so much information I couldt find a pen to write all this down ! good job! instead the ones going to scrap yard should be quarantines residence or hospital in this times
A while ago, Carnival Corporation said in a regulatory filing that it would dispose of six ships within 90 days and maybe more. Today, they announced its nine brands would remove 13 ships from their fleets in the coming months. They also said they would add new ships at a slower pace over the next couple of years. Sad but with the decline in cruising, companies just have to shrink their fleet.
So far there are 9 confirmed departures for Carnival Corporation:
1. Costa Victoria
2. Oceana
3. Maasdam
4. Rotterdam
5. Veendam
6. Amsterdam
7. Costa neoRomantica
8. Carnival Fantasy
9. Carnival Inspiration
The sale of Pacific Dawn and Pacific Aria may get moved from 2021 to 2020, especially if CMV has to back out of the purchase. Carnival Imagination and Carnival Fascination are being put into long term storage (cold layup) and likely will be sold when scrap markets improve.
It’s all over. There will eventually be mostly only mega ships left which means millions of cruisers like those in my circle of friends and family will elect against ever sailing again. Sovereign Class size vessels and smaller being almost entirely eliminated is a foolish decision that the cruise lines will regret. Say goodbye too to the many smaller wonderful ports of call which the mega ships can’t get into.
Great informations, very good (looks like free spoken),well done Emma. Love to see more in the future... just subscribed.
Thanks Stefan! 🥳♥️
I enjoyed this video. I'm looking into cruising lately and your videos are superb. I'm not sure if you found out in the two years since you have made this video but you pronounce CMV Ida Pfeiffer as Ida Fiver (phonetically)
Another great video, cool info. 10:20 “they do do” lmao sorry couldn’t help myself. 👍🏼👍🏼
Haha!! Thank you 😂😂♥️
Never mind, Emma. Do do that voodoo that you do so well.
Cruise ships could be driven up a harbor or a river ...and they could dig out an area next to riverfront & allow it to be backfilled around it ...and now you have permanent apartment complex!!
I don’t understand why they don’t consider doing this...
Also cruise ships could be reused as spaceships because they do have the technology to make them go to outer space....Of course it would take some retrofitting but not that much
one of the reasons to keep only large ships is when sale 5000 passenger ship at half capacity you still have 2500 people on board a 2000 passinger ship will only have 1000 not a chance to make any money
Thanks for this, I often wondered how to half large numbers and now I've realized I just need to divide by 2. Maybe the cost of operating a cruise ship with a capacity of 2000 is a lot less than one of 5000?
I don’t want the sky to go! It’s my favorite ship and I’ve been on it 3 times!
Great video and very informative.
Thanks Michael! ❤️
Some, if not all, of the ships sold, look like they have no outside balconies which is a draw so it makes sense to remove them.
So much to wonder about these days. Disney ordered three new ships and I’m sure they will be just fine at the end of the day when this is over. I’ve seen some of the older Carnival ships when I was on a cruise and I guess they appeal to some people that want really cheap cruises. I’d much rather be on a newer ship with a balcony myself. The Oasis class is too big and never really felt like I was actually on a cruise a lot of the time. Did the Oasis twice. Love Disney and want to go on another so bad. Very interesting piece you put together and add to it your super cuteness and accent and I’m now a subscriber. If I can come up with $150,000,000 I’ll gladly take you on a cruise. LOL.
Thanks Rich! Appreciate it 😉❤️
It makes sense to get rid of newer ships of the same size, as they are probably still being paid off, or certainly haven’t yet been fully depreciated. So the carrying cost is higher than an older vessel that has met these 2 tests.
Move them to expensive cities and rent out as condos.
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geez bro. Amazing idea.
Quite original.
If i'm not wrong there is one old cruise that went out of service because it was working for too long and had this destiny, isnt?
Yeah it's such a waste to scrap them when there's nothing wrong with em
They would just become future slums, I like the idea just you know what us humans are like,
@@MrPuterwiz not if the government gives attention to it
@@rezopolis If the government gives attention to it then it will for SURE turn into a slum.
Wow you are so good at presenting well done
Thanks Dave! ❤️❤️
The more cruise ships that are scrapped the better for the environment. Cruise ships are polluters, they don’t pay taxes, they still dump pollutants into the sea, and they make minimal contributions to the destinations they visit. It’s an industry that needs to be completely revamped.
I'm pretty sure they should operate more like ocean liners, in my opinion, and run on hydrogen
Such an ill informed comment and makes me doubt you have ever been on a cruise ship. If you had, you would know that most destination ports are heavily reliant on the tourist dollars being spent on shore excursion trips, restaurants, landmark entry fees etc. if in doubt, visit Montenegro and ask the people how desperate they are to keep the cruise ship tourists arriving each day. Their livelihoods depend on it. Cruise lines do pay taxes at destinations in the form of port fees and charges, which are significant. Cruise liners are fully self contained for waste (sewage), they collect and offload general waste at ports. The engines do emit carbon emissions due to burning a fossil fuel, but then, so do passenger jets, cars and buses. So until we don’t need transportation, that won’t be changing any time soon. Don’t even fantasise about electric powered ships and aircraft, it is an engineering impossibility with the technology we have now and in the foreseeable future. Certainly not in our lifetime.
Joffie , actually I have been on a cruise once but that’s another horror story. I live in a Caribbean island that has cruise ships visit throughout the winter months and we own a shop that is heavily reliant on the cruise ship business, I was also on the board of the local port authority for several years and know full well the revenues collected from the cruise ships. So let’s analysis your rather naive comments. The following comments do not apply to The small cruise ships with 800 passengers or less. Large Cruise ship passengers spend on average $22 per head. Compared to stay over visitors who spend $250 per head per day. Cruise ship passengers pay no entry fees or departure fees and are not required to present passports to immigration on arrival. Cruise ship passengers rarely eat in local restaurants. They book 90% of their tours on the ship who in return hire local tour operators paying between 25%to 30% of the rate collected on the ship. Cruise ships burn the dirtiest cheapest fuels and severely polluted our town with their particulates when they are in port. They dump their garbage on our island that has little enough room for our own garbage, they fill their tanks with our valuable water supplies. The passengers arrive in their thousands and pollute our pristine beaches with their plastic waste and cigarette butts (yes we actually pick up their garbage early in the mornings after they leave to keep the beach clean). As for the treatment of the islanders who work on the ships, this is beyond appalling. No sick pay no days off long hours at very low rates, no paid holidays, no pension plans and of course no effective union to represent their interests. Finally the taxes collected are six times less than are collected from the yachts that visit our shores. You might ask why we allow them here. In a word the politicians love them because the numbers are impressive but this is going to backfire now as no one here wants to see overweight, greasy Covid ridden American tourists on our shores in the near or hopefully distant future. There is no real benefit to our islands from this greedy corporate industry that abuses our local workers and who totally disrespect our culture. So the more large cruise ships that get scrapped the better.
Russ Fielden Well your experience in the Caribbean is different to what I have experienced ashore. We spend plenty at each location we visit. You can’t spend the whole day without eating, drinking etc. The occasional taxi here and there, souvenir shopping; it all adds up. When the cruise industry restarts, perhaps they’ll bypass the Caribbean altogether and you can miss out on getting any money. All the overworked staff can find other lucrative jobs to feed themselves and their families. I hope to visit soon.
Joffie i am from the Caribbean and have seen and experienced the increasingly negative impact cruise ships have on our culture and environment. Small cruise ships are welcome, the passengers on these are generally civil, respectful,spend more money and stay longer and even return as stay over visitors. It’s these monster ships disgorging thousands of badly behaved people who literally spend nothing on our shores but leave behind their plastic cups and straws and cigarette ends. I have Taken part in Cruise ship conventions in Argentina, Mexico and Miami and have seen the statistics of average spend. In Cozumel it’s $110 per person, in the Windward islands it’s $22. According to The World Bank it will take over a hundred years without interest to repay the loans taken out to build cruise ship docks. A hundred years! In Montgomery bay it will take 180 years. Great investment eh! Do you think Carnival pays for these facilities? No they just cleverly play one set of corrupt politicians against another and get these facilities built for free for them at massive cost to these small island developing states. And yes you are right there is work to be had on cruise ships and without that work remittances to families would evaporate but that doesn’t make it right to abuse Islanders with low pay and long hours. As I said in my original statement the industry needs to be revamped. I am not advocating the demise of the industry. but I would like to see the downsizing the ships, an increase in the price of the cruise so that smaller ships can be profitable and that the industry forced to register their ships in their home ports where they will be subjected to the rule of law and pay taxes that other shore based industry pay.
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Thanks Emma, very enlightening! Oceana being sold would have been Carnival directed. They have ruined the cruise industry and favoured huge ships stuffed full of guests ripe for cash processing. Company loyalty to faithful returning guests has long since disappeared. I used to be a cruise ambassador but not any more! ;-(
The one on the website is the majesty of the seas because of the lobby interiors looks like the lobby of the majesty of the seas
Hi Emma, l can understand why people are upset about losing the Oceana. She is a wonderful Sun class, my wife and I traveled the world on her sister the beautiful Sea Princess. Being able to get into smaller ports was a real treat. We have also traveled on the other's, the Sun Princess and the Dawn Princess ( now Pacific Explorer I think ). To have just under 2000 on board is something I prefer too having 5000.
Thanks for the video, Steve.
8:00 The same way you pronounce actress Michelle Pfeiffer I guess. Great video.
correct
Silent P
😞 - so many of the ships I once cruised on - may be sold, may be scrapped!! I like the smaller ships - perfect fit for me - but right now - who knows?? Thanks Emma - keep the informative videos coming!!
great video
Ida Pfeiffer? I would expect “eye-da Fie-fer” other ideas?
spot on
Like Michelle Pfeiffer.
I agree
Yes, I went to school with a guy with the same last name, He pronounced it “Fifer”.
No mystery here....
All of these ships have one thing in common: A lack of verandahs...
Its more difficult to sell inside/oceanview staterooms so discounting is more dynamic impacting the overall ship per diem.
When the ships have ports of registration like London, Southampton I might be disappointed. But I can't get upset about ugly metal blocks of flats registered in Liberia or Panama being scrapped.
They're all ugly metal blocks of flats that need to be sunk along with the kind of people who enjoy that kind of thing.
No cruise line could afford to hire all its employees in England even if they could FIND enough qualified workers.
Even if they WANT to pay their taxes -- the "flag nation" hiring restrictions are pretty brutal. For the US you have to have mostly American staff and an American captain. Not to mention US minimum wage and everything else involved. There is a reason there is only one US Flagged cruise ship. (it sails around the Hawaiian Islands and since it has no foreign nations to stop at it has to comply with the Jones Act and be US flagged)
Price a cruise on that one... its not cheap.
@@redwolfexr agreed ALSO ..Marellla the british cruise line mentioned in the vid had all of their ship registered in Malta , st phillips ect ....the registration of a ship apart from tax laws and paying crews ect rests on the country / ports of registration too as a lot of countries /ports have a LOT LESS restrictions than the U.K same as with the U.S and the Jones act! thats why they are registered in some godforsaken backwater port ..or a country that couldn't give two hoots about what staff get paid and what safety standards are adheard too apart from SOLAS obv as that covers all ships no matter where they are registered! ....I hate the fact the crew get paid peanuts ect they ares so friendly ect but then again thats why the cruise lines hire a lot from the Philippines and eastern block countries for jobs like cabin stewards , waiters , bar staff ect cause they can pay em peanuts but back home thats prob a fortune to them sadly!
I went on a cruise with Salamis Filoxenia she may be old ( launched in the mid. 70s ) but it's like being on the Titanic ( Without the sinking) complete with boat decks , chains and bollards..
I think the one that looked similar to the one Royal Caribbean ship is either Sovereign of the Seas or Monarch of the Seas. Since both have been sold for scrap to a scrap yard in Turkey.
Also to add on, if Norwegian sells any ships they better not sell the Norwegian Sun, I was on her in a cruise with my family and another family that are friends of are when I was only 18 months ( I am now 17) and I would love to see her now before she goes.
So sad to see that since this video was posted, dozens of more ships are now marked for scrap, or being sold by all of the cruise lines. So far RCI Enchantment of the Seas has been spared, unlike its similar class brothers and sisters. Perhaps because of its unique rebuild and add ons idk. Still I really hope RCI and other companies find a new way to bring in state of the art, intriguing, and unique smaller ships for those who enjoy more destinations and smaller ports. RCI has always been the innovation leader if one can market this idea it would be RCI
Great info Emma! The first cruise hubby and I did was on that old Regal Princess in 1997.
I've been on the Empress and Majesty for shorter cruises to Cuba and the Bahamas. They had a 100th voyage celebration when I was on Empress (for the cruise to Cuba where you stay two days in Havana) and I was puzzled because Empress was obviously not a new ship. They explained that it was recommissioned as an RCL ship when Cuba opened up so the counter started over.
Don’t forget Pullmantur Zenith (leaving Pullmantur for a non profit cruise line in Japan)
My favorite ship
I went on Adonia in 2018 as the Azamara Pursuit 😁
That ship name you can't pronounce (Ida Pfeiffer) is pronounced "eye-da fifer" - at least here in the U.S.
Great information here, I've been watching your playlists on this subject and others - many thanks!
its not that these ships are bad but the fuel cost is what I think is causing these ships to be sold. If you look at the new carnival ships they are moving to lng fuel.
Cruised the imagination in june 2018...it was an older ship but we still had a good time
Sounds good! 😁🥳
Great video Emma. Very worried about CMV, not least as I've a future cruise booked and have credit for another. Would be a real shame if the worlds oldest cruise ship Astoria (1948) never got her Autumn swansong as she was set to retire at end Autumn.
I’ve done 8 cruises .....but my ships were haze grey and had missiles and guns.
I imagine the buffet wasn't the same lol. Thanks for your service dude.
It wasnt just the cruise ship industry. 5 brand new drillships dry docked and scrapped that i know of
Can these ships run on river too...like Brahmaputra river if yes how much it will cost... intrested in river Cruising
What is the scrap value of one of these ships, I was thinking of buying a small 3 berth weekend cruiser but this would make a nice boat to anchor in the Med for a month.
I'm not sure but I'd like one too please 😂
@@EmmaCruises go have a trundle around around on yacht world -> for sale -> power -> cruise ships you might recognise some them and how much they are selling for
One cruise ship sold for 600k USD recently as a distressed sale which was a bargain the RCGS Resolute which was valued at $25 million
There is a port in heaven. For cruise ships. Sailing in a sky of blue. Catch from the first cloud
Seems you like the smaller ships better. Norwegian Spirit was the last cruise ship I sailed on. Considering the mega makeover and lower demand, it should stay in the fleet. Definitely needed the overhaul.
Agreed! Love her though🥰
I imagine, because of the time period and costs of what’s happening with this virus, any old cruise ship that when it’s time is coming up for a refit, would be looked at, to whether it’s worth spending millions on them or dispensing them
Yup the older the ship the more of a health risk. One of the worst things about older ships is the air conditioning. Years of circulating air builds up in the vents and can be a petri dish for virus.The flu, legionnaires disease and now Covid19 that is an aerosol and could be lethal in air conditioning
Emma is the other video that you mention at approx 10:39 in this one still available? I can’t seem to find it. Thanks!
Ooo! I hid the video because none of it was true anymore and I didn't want to confuse people :)
Oh OK - I was just interested as we have a Pullmantur cruise moved from this Oct to Oct 2021. thanks
Good News!
Emma, I have been loyal to Royal... Granduer and Enchantment have been my favorites. Brilliance has always been a nice one also, but what are they going to do about a ship for the Port of Baltimore? There is a slight bridge issue.
The Empress of the Seas has been anchored in Souda Bay, Crete Greece for over a week, local news reported it being here for decommissioning, to await being brought back into service. I don't know , it was previously doing cruises out of Miami and it seems to be to be an long and expensive voyage just to park it and wait out the pandemic.
Marella have done a great job with the 2 ex Royal Caribbean ships, renamed the Discovery 1 / 2 but cant be said for the Explorer 1 which hasnt been well thought out, some of the entertainment areas are to small, the buffet area is cramped and generally spread all over the place, it feels like an updated ferry. Mein Schiff ( Tui's German arm ) the previous owners were designed for their market and doesnt fit in well with the UK. Lets hope no more of the fleet is heading to Marella
My friend blew a lot of money on cruises, I spent the same exact amount of money on my Corvette and I saved and paid cash for it! He has memories though! 😉😆
I have many memories of the cars I have owned. You will too. Take many pictures to remember them by. Cruises are nice also.
Ships built in the 90s should last 10-20yrs... yup that's how the math works out to make 2020.
I think she meant before refits but she also said 20 years then parts salvage vs scrap
There is a more recent video showing Fantasy and two other Carnival ships being scrapped in Turkey in the last couple of months. Rather interesting watching their last move being beached at full-throttle right next to each other.
Yesss I saw! So strange isn’t it?
I miss Cruising.
me scrolling through my pictures of the oceana as it was docking next to our boat
Haha :)
If the dawn gets scraped i will cry
😂😂😂
Loved the Norwegian Spirit
That was the last cruise ship I was on, two years ago. Also shared a with the P&O Oceana in Malta when I sailed on the Spirit. It’s a shame the smaller ships are going down mainly because of age. As to the Spirit, it’s getting a $100+ million super makeover, and the previews look fascinating.
What happens to the interior fittings? I’m assuming they are stripped out and auctioned off. If so who and where?
I have a suggestion for a video, with the bankruptcy of CMV, it would be interesting to have a video talking about what would happen to the ships from P&O Australia that were meant to be going towards CMV. At the moment all I know is that P&O AU is restructuring (again) to become more modern and in line with companies like RCI or NCL and they are getting rid of the Dawn and Aria as you mentioned and getting two Princess Cruises ships. I really don’t know what is going to happen but it is interesting.
Went on the p&o Dawn for my honeymoon in 2017, and then again in feb 2020. I think it only did 1 or 2 more cruises after my feb cruise before the covid cruise shutdown.
Sounds awesome 🥳❤️
I love Costa Victoria
Me too
She is very nice
I worked on her
Yet another idea. In times of war and other emergencies. Cruise ships have often been made into Mercy ships hospital ships and all types of needed vessels. Every Nation should not curse the darkness But light a candle. A whisper in any ear is a possibility to change the direction of our world for the better.
I enjoy your videos as always. I enjoy cruising but not now. I am more interested in investing in cruise stocks. If you visit Vancouver Canada, I am happy to buy your a good dinner. Thank you for your effort and hard work. Take good care. Be safe every day and where.
You're very kind! Thank you ♥️♥️😁
100 Million USD for a ship? im sure they not getting that value as scrap are thay? Wouldnt it be more feasable to find a buyer for less then to scrap it? Unless , Do they get that much or more as scrap?
I read that the Victoria will be scrapped in its home country of Italy,which is better than going to Alang.
It make's sense to dispose of these cruise ships for scrap their days are over and can be recycled it happens every day recycling.
You make me melt with that accent!
Oh you 😉♥️
I think that, if Covid19 lasts for another year or so, many cruisecompany's will go bankrupt...
I agree
Cool vid. However, that pan of Royal Caribbean solidified my want to never go on a cruise. Looks like pure hell being stuck around that many people with nowhere to go. Blegh. But again, great vid. 👍🙂
Also the carnival elation is not for sale i saw it at port canaveral on the norwegian escape
Haha, this videos very old but it was all right at the time 😀❤️
Do you know where these ships dock if they aren't being used due to the virus?
Most of them are just docked off shore, I have a video on my channel about that actually, might be worth a look! :D
I've heard about a couple of older Holland American ships as potentially being sold. Do you think with this virus that the move to large ships with more passengers is an idea that cruise lines may reevaluate?
IDK but "scale efficiency" is an issue here. There are minimum crewing requirements for ships regardless of size so smaller cruise ships generate less profit because they have a higher crew to passenger ratio. As you get bigger, the ratio of crew to passengers gets smaller which improves profit (usually at the expense of customer service). Bigger ships also have lower maintenance costs relative to the profit they generate because there is a minimum level of maintenance required for a Certification of Seaworthiness and more deck space increases the maintenance costs at a lower rate than the profit generated by that added capacity. It's all a "numbers game" which is based on the number of consumers for your product.
@@swaghauler8334 Swag: Also large ships have lower fuel cost per passenger per mile.
@@geezergeezer1 Yes they do.
Floating around,,,,,,,,good one.
Of i was the cruise lines and had ships to scrap. I would sell off parts of the vessel to collectors and people looking for cheap furniture. Imagine getting a lifeboat or the bar of a ship in your house. The wheel can sell for a thousand bucks. They can make back decent funds from selling off these and reduce wasted funds in scrap. More money
That happens when they are scrapped.
A enduring image of these times will be hundreds of cruise ships and thousands of airliners being cut up for scrap...
I went on the Costa Serena sister ship of Costa Concordia Costa Pacifica Costa Favolosa Costa Fascinosa and for a holiday then returned to Alberta where I live they food is delicious yummm
Glad to hear it 🥳❤️
I guess you meant 'the shipyard went bankrupt', not 'the scrapyard ...' when talking about Costa Victora's would-be sister ship Costa Olympia (at 2:27). Nice video, though.
That's it! 😁♥️
2:08 My thought on the dirt cheap costa cruise forget it I guess you forgot what happened to the Costa concordia I don’t need that kind of a thrill again!
I'm really hoping that Grandeur of the Seas doesnt head for the scrapyard with the fall of Pullmantur. She is a fan favourite ship with a very loyal following. However, Enchantment is slated to sail from Baltimore in 2021, so putting Grandeur back in service would mean Enchantment moving from Baltimore. And Baltimore is not nearly large enough of a port to be able to handle 2 ships, much less 2 Vision class ships. That's just not financially feasible. So my fingers are crossed for Grandeur's future.
I'm on Grandeur right now. I don't have any kind of insider information, but she is manned and being kept functional for the moment. Never know what the future may bring, but for now, she's still sailing, and eagerly awaiting the day when operations can resume.
Right now?! Goodness! ♥️
@@EmmaCruises Yes ma'am, this very moment. Signed on last week. Interesting times for a cruise officer. Tough times for many, since many departments have no purpose with no guests on board. A lot of crew stuck shore side, wondering how long it will be until they can get back to work.
@@Tiglath-Pileser3 Thank you so much for taking care of the old gal. I'm a big fan of the Vision class ships, and Baltimore sure loved Grandeur. Please stay safe out there!
Which time open vacancy in There please tell me??
Sadly I think the main cruise lines are making their fleets less diverse. All becoming similar sizes and generally similar to each other. They are in danger of losing some of their market.
I agree sadly! ♥️
Just incase anyone thinks about the Costa bit she did don't forget 8 years ago the Costa Concordia anyone else remember it