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Hey Emma, I am thoroughly enjoying your channel! (: This is a possible reminder to link the video you mentioned by Morgan's Very Unofficial Travel Guides. (That is unless I am blind, or you don't want to link for some reason.) I realize that it's not a new upload but I know was looking for it so others might too.
I'n brand new to the channel, and have binge watched several episodes, great fun. - To help in locating people who have gone overboard, why not give each passenger a GPS wristband or something they carry when walking in areas they could potentially fall over the rails. They could make this an optional part of the cruise for a fee if it's too expensive. I'd buy one if cruising. Great, very interesting content Emma! 😁😎👍✌
Tip: if you are scared that you will fall cause you are drunk on Holland America Konigsdam I know there is something called a "Mocktail" which has no achohal and probably most cruises have that!
I find it interesting that 'Oscar' is their code word for man overboard - in the Navy our man overboard dummy was named Oscar. I actually got chosen the be the man 'overboard' one time. They threw Oscar over the side and I had to hide in the Captain's in-port cabin to see if my department would mark me missing in the emergency muster. Spoiler alert - do not fall overboard. Everytime we did a drill... we ran over Oscaar with the ship... 😎
Tito Tim, I would almost bet all the dummies used are called Oscar. The International signal flag used to indicate man overboard is the O flag, called Oscar. When a ship is flying the Oscar flag you (you being an another ship) Should be on guard for unexpected or unpredictable maneuvering.
We had a suicidal young person on our last cruise and their family was seated next to us at dinner. They complained bitterly that their family member always threatened to jump while they were on a cruise and the family said loudly that if they wanted to jump they should just go ahead and get it over with and leave the family in peace. 3 am off the coast of British Columbia they started on the PA system throughout the entire ship asking the young person to call in and confirm their presence. The announcement went out every 15 minutes until about 5:30 when apparently the young person was located. With the little knowledge we had of the family dynamic I sincerely hope the young person gets the help they need and the family stays away from cruising for a long while.
Situations like that family at dinner should be reported to the ship's doctor and to another highest authority possible. ... Why in god's name would those people go on another cruise at all, and then make such a report to fellow passengers, I do not know. Actually, it is a cry for help.
@@AroundTheWorldWithEase I agree to tell a crew member ASAP. Though all that really might accomplish is reducing the ship’s liability if they really did jump, since the ship could argue that the family came even though they knew there was a risk.
My last cruise on the Carnival Vista, we had a dude who got really drunk in the casino bar and later that evening was threatening to jump off his his balcony on deck 9. He got put on suicide watch, switched to an inside cabin and was locked inside with security outside the door at all times for the rest of the cruise. Crew brought his meals to him and everything.
I thought you weee gonna say he ended up being that guy that DID jump overboard, landed on that one thing and hung there, and was recorded when he actually fell the rest of the way when people were trying to help. That’s exactly how that one happened too!
I’m a retired police dispatcher/911 emergency call taker & I’ve never gotten more complaints then when a 3 year old girl went missing @ night & we used a reverse 911 system to call the house holds in a specific mile radius to alert people to give a description of her & people called so upset that they were woken up. Not like 1 or 5 like seriously our center in a smaller city (usually less than 30 police officers on the road at once) got about 40 call in complaints. I’m still shocked that anyone would would value their sleep over another persons life (a child at that).
We were on a cruise where a crew member jumped overboard, at night. Process was the same for searching. Sharp turn and patterned search until Coast Guard arrived to take over the search. Captain asked people with balconies to assist in search. Unfortunately, he was never found. Very sad.
People complain that their vacation has been "ruined" because a ship's crew tries to save a person's life?? I guess there are more narcissists and sociopaths in this world than I ever imagined. 😔 Thanks for the video, Emma.
As a nurse on night shift, I once had a patient insist I get the doctor to prescribe them a sleeping tablet. I informed them that the doctor was in the middle of a resus, literally putting paddles on a man's chest and shouting, "Clear!" The patient looked at me like I was insane and said, "But I need my sleep" and insisted that I let the other patient die so they could get a sleeping tablet. Every time I say human nature doesn't surprise me any more, something like that happens.
To be a Devil's Advocate, I can only see people complaining like this to cruise companies so they can have some type of reimbursement. People save up for months if not years and take time off work which is hard for many Americans. People like that definitely need to invest in cruise insurance. I don't think some mean to be heartless, but some don't feel sorry for most drunk people falling over because they can't handle their drinks.
This happened on a cruise we were on. Announcement came through around 5 am, broadcast through every cabin. It was light as it was a summer cruise, just a few hours out of port. They managed to save the person's life, mainly because it was light and the water warmer than at other times of the year. He and a dozen mates were disembarked at the next port as it was a deliberate act, his mates knew he was planning to do it and didnt alert the staff.
The water temperature probably doesn't change much across the year, but the light was. Around here if somebody falls in the water you have about a half an hour to find them and remove them from the water before they die of hypothermia, the water here is extremely cold and water is very effective at transferring heat.
That is horrifying. I am not sure whether you mean that the person who went overboard was attempting to unalive themself and their "mates" knew yet did nothing to prevent the attempt; or whether you mean it was like, idk I guess idiots who thought it would somehow be funny or, I can't even thing of a reason tbh.
We were on a Princess in transit from Auckland to Melbourne. In the middle of the night there was an alarm for a missing passenger. Every cabin searched, even under the bed and out on the balcony. Subsequently, wallet and magnetic stripe card were found on the Promenade Deck. A review of CCTV footage showed that the passenger had jump the previous night. We were too far from where he jumped to go back. He shared a cabin with his brother. His parents were also on the cruise. I can't begin to imagine how the family, Captain and crew felt. This is when the Captain and crew demonstrate their professionalism, which was well demonstrated. I can't imagine the circumstances which would have prompted the young man to jump.
@@Katy32344 Indeed, if the passengers and crew were deeply affected, life being more than play for the passengers and work for the crew, then how much more so for the family.
To go back. Your naivety is almost funny. What do you think is the ocean? It's cold, it moves, it's salty etc. . People don't survive very long. Many hurt themselves or die falling off of the ship. Depending on their intentions and will and body conditions they struggle for a while. Most don't have hours let alone an entire day. Most give up quickly as they realize noone is coming and many probably didn't even want to be found.
its sounds absolutely retarded to me. Whats the odds that some average person sleeping is going to contribute in a meaningful way to the search that is being done by the crew and people still up. Seems like its more theater than anything esle to show that you are doing whatever you can. Its one thing to miss a day because your ship is involved in a search its another to wake you up when there is no chance it will chance anything.
The captain is responsible for each and every soul onboard. If the captain believes it's best for everyone to get out of bed and help locate someone, regardless of whether or not you think it's cool, just do as is requested. Next time it could be your life on the line
I was on a carnival cruise in the Bahamas 5 years ago and a man got into a fight with his wife and jumped off his balcony. The people in the room next to them heard him scream to her, threatening to jump. We spent 8 hours sitting in the middle of the ocean before we could proceed. There were 3 other ships circling us. The craziest thing... the couple were on their honeymoon.
5 years ago, we were on the Royal Caribbean & we realized the Carnival was docked next to us.. that doesn't happen. We found that a man pushed his wife over. We talked with folks that heard the couple screaming at one another. Carnival has a lot of bad stories. On my TT, I even posted where she went over. She was never found
Generally speaking, when someone's been drinking and they fall overboard, it's usually because they were trying to sit on the railing or climb on something they wouldn't have when sober.
Yes, and hitting the water from the height is about as bad as hitting concrete. Only trained high divers can pull it off and they know what they are doing. Someone in that situation likely made the most epic belly flop ever.
What amazes me is not drunks or emotionally distraught people jumping or falling overboard, it's the complete lack of knowledge adults generally have about falling into water. When I was a teen I jumped from a 2nd story balcony into a backyard pool because I thought it was going to be fun... HITTING THE WATER HURT BAD!! If you are not trained in how to break the surface tension of the water with your body, it's like hitting concrete even at only falling twenty feet! I've been on 9 or 10 cruises and I've seen a person try to actually climb the guardrails put up by the ship. The ship staff were there pretty quickly and took her away, but one other time at night did I hear the "Oscar, Oscar, Oscar, Port Side" alarm. That nitwit got rescued and was put off the ship at the next port of call. Stay safe and well my friends :)
Yep, I've jumped off small cliffs into a lake as a teen. My 1st jump, was like 10 ft up and I thought plugging my noes would help keep water from going up my noes. When I hit the water, my fist slipped into my forehead and I got water up my nose. After trying smaller jumps, I realized it was better not to do that and eventually worked up to a 25 ft jump.
Never mind the freezing cold water, the energy it takes to stay afloat for most people, then the sea wildlife!! Which is my biggest deterrent to ever even thinking about jumping into the OCEAN!
A few comments I'd always make sure I mentioned when doing the late pax drills, it was to never do anything that could result in falling overboard. Chances are we won't find you. And don't hear the general emergency alarm go off, panic, and assume we're sinking. Because it's more likely to be a situation like this where there was doubt over whether somebody had gone overboard and a full muster was required to see if anybody was missing.
This sort of happened on one of my cruises several years ago. A drunk passenger was fighting with his girlfriend in their cabin and the neighbors called ships security. He ran from them, went to the top deck and jumped over the barrier. He didn't land in the ocean though, instead landed on one of the lower deck bars where several of the ships crew were including the ships doctor. There was no announcement made, just the alarm for the crew so nobody really knew what was happening but the ship starting turning and actually heading towards Cuba. Sadly, the guy didn't make it and was pretty much dead on impact.
I took a cross-atlantic cruise back in the 70's and a LOT happened on that cruise: we ran aground in Senegal (fortunately, they got her off the bottom), we skirted a hurricane, and we rescued a heart-attack victim from a freighter half way across the ocean. Then a helicopter came to pick up the man when we got close enough to shore. I didn't hear of anyone complaining. Instead, it added to the adventure. Anyone who complains about trying to save someones life doesn't deserve to live.
I was on the Anthem of the Seas in 2017 when a boy drowned in the pool on the first day of the cruise. We headed back toward New Jersey and they helicoptered him to the hospital. We found out later that unfortunately he didn't make it. This incident is why there are now lifeguards on all RCCL ships. So I'm reminded of the incident every time I cruise with RCCL.
I was on a cruise in 2019 and my cruise buddy (long time friend of mine!) got really drunk (we had the all inclusive drinks package haha). It was also insanely stormy that night and about 2am I got a knock on the door and it was him being escorted by two crew members. He wasn't happy about being walked back to the room, but after two minutes of sitting on the bed, he was OUT! Scary to think he could have been one of those gone overboard! I did tell him the next morning to be thankful the crew was looking out for him and he agreed xD
I was travelling from Belfast to Isle of Man on a car ferry when a mayday, man overboard was received from a yacht. All vessels in the vicinity had to attend and search, apparently under maritime law. The guy was found alive in around about 1hr later but died in the helicopter going to hospital. Funny thing was that a Russian cruise ship called the Maxim Gorky was involved in the search. I thought it would be the only time I would see it, but later that year I was on a cruise ship in Naples and it was the ship docked right beside ours. Small world eh? Great video Emma.
Hi emma, I thought your video was very descriptive and a good insight for those wondering what happens with a Man overboard (MoB). Behind the scences there is a whole raft of things that is getting done. Checklists, boat preps, searches etc. The last thing we would want to do on a ship would be to turn around and look for a MOB, only to find that the person is actually still on board. So communication Is key in the first instance to make sure the person is not on the vessel still. Unfortunately passengerships have a dangerous cargo (passengers) for the most part they are fine, but when things go wrong, they can go down hill fast. My first 2 and a half years at sea we had 3 man overboard, one dead before he hit the water, one died due to exposure, the other was found weeks later when the body washed up on a beach. Those MOBs were all on passenger vessels. I am happy to say that for the rest of my seagoing career of 21 years, I did not have another man overboard, thank goodness
This is good awareness that if you do go overboard, a) the fall might kill you or knock you out, and b) even immediate action by the ship may not find you (especially in the dark).
I had a teacher who had jumped overboard on a cruise ship (obviously he did survive to teach me!). Alcohol was definitely the major contributor to the incident but it was definitely a wild story to find out about a teacher!
I remember being woken up one night by "Oscar, Oscar, Oscar. Starboard side". It really shook me at the time. We spent probably 10 hours just circling, joined by nearby cargo ships.
Years ago on a Carnival cruise we had a similar incident during our return to NYC from the Caribbean. Around 1:00am a man jumped from Deck 10 or 11, when Security attempted to enter his stateroom after being called for a domestic disturbance. We remained in a search pattern for around 10+ hrs until released by the Coast Guard. He was never found.
We went on a cruise in January with our kids. We had a balcony, and the thought hit me that if for any reason one of our kids fell off, there would be no point in the boat even slowing down. They can't swim and even if they could it would be almost impossible to see them. But again like she said, it is pretty hard for an adult to fall over let alone a child.
I have only seen one person jump 🦘 from a ship.It was the ferry across Lake Constance between Fredrickshaven and Romanshorn, Switzerland.A woman if I recall and deliberately jumped and was rescued by a Swiss policeman who risked his own life jumping in the freezing water to rescue her.
I'm so sorry you had to experience this on your cruise. It's so tragic when it happens and so sad that some people see no other way around things in life. I get the idea and I dont blame people for choosing it, but its still very sad. Because no one ever fell off a ship trust me. I've seen it happen and it's a sight i never forget and I am sorry for anyone who has ever had to endure it.
You're a breath of fresh air young lady. Your enthusiasm for boating holidays is clear. We've stopped ocean cruising as we find the ships too big, prefer smaller boats that get into old city centre ports, with less crowds on board, embarking and disembarking. We have now switched to river cruising on small 150pax boats that are small enough to moor in the centre of towns and cities, for an easy walk on walk off experience often with complementary bicycles. No more herding onto fleets of excursion buses an hour away from cities and towns. Loads of scenery to be seen passing by all day long rather than just distant boring horizon. Rhine and Danube are favourites, it's expensive compared to the ocean boats but so much more relaxing and holiday oriented than the busy big boats. Great channel btw, and well constructed videos. Well done.
We had a similar issue in 2009 on the mariner of the seas. Family looking for teen son. They thought it was overboard. He just fell asleep in his friends cabin.
When I was about 5, I was playing with a cloth ball with my arms outside the window of a docked ship, and I dropped the ball. I was really sad because it was my favorite toy at the time (it had sentimental value to me because it was the one thing a friend had given me before they left the country), and I thought it was going to sink in the sea water. To this day I don’t know how my mom and a friendly attendant managed to fish it out of wherever it fell. It was wet and it shrunk a little but I was ecstatic. I’m 27 now and I still remember that.
Great video Emma! Sorry for the woman who lost her life. Cruise safety measures are good, 25 out of 30 million is a good safety record. But when someone does go overboard the first priority is to render aid to that person as soon as possible, it’s sad that some passengers would feel different. Turning the ship around and missing ports is not an issue when it comes to saving someone life! The media always try to paint cruises in a bad light, whether it's a rare man overboard incident, Norovirus or COVID on ship, the media coverage is always, “look at the big bad cruise ship”. I find the recent coverage of this poor woman’s incident to be much the same..
Well the odds may be 1 in a million, but that includes suicides and people who get incredibly drunk. Don’t get drunk or attempt suicide and you odds will be much better 🤔
And they don’t pay any taxes. Cruise ships are pretty effed up honestly. Coming from someone who works for local tour boat company out of one of the busiest ports in America.. it is devastating to learn about the practices of these large cruise companies. Absolutely despicable
@@703Fefe Well, the subject was not the environmental impact but hey! I don’t think all your thousands of tour boats are good for the environment either…… If you gathered all the tour boats on the US coast into one area and measured NOx emissions the numbers would be horrible too. And are we excusing the noxious fumes emitted from the hundreds of thousands of aircraft flying overhead 24 hours a day? I’m sure you’ve used one at some point. How about the horrible noxious fumes from the container ships that brought most of the items that you own from China, Taiwan, and other manufacturing countries over to your country for your consumption? Apple device anyone… Or how about the oil tankers that bring the oil to make the gasoline/ diesel for your tour boat? They all emit noxious fumes that are horrible for the environment. I don't hear people saying they're willing to give up their personal devices, clothing, appliances, and other luxuries, supplies and necessities that are a derivative of oil during manufacturing or during transport and therefore horrible for the environment. F.Y.I. some new ships are LNG.... Just sayin!!
My dad was in the Merchant Marine in World War 2 and he always said the same thing when someone went missing from a cruise ship. He'd say, "Only fools and passengers drink at sea."
By the time you earn the money to take a cruise you will be very knowledgeable. You can start saving some money now even if it's only a little bit. Get a "piggy" bank and feed it something once a week A pence (penny, etc.) or 2 is enough to start with.
Study well at school and you’ll be able to get a job that pays enough for you to be able to cruise. If you shop around you can get some pretty sweet prices if you’re ok to have an inside stateroom, out of season or a shorter 3/4 day cruise etc. Don’t ever give up on your dreams.
People don’t realize that when you go overboard in the ocean the likelihood of you being found is extremely nill. Not to mention the shock your body goes into.
As an emergency responder, emergency PA systems aren’t designed for customer comforts. Every second counts and spending minutes weeding through thousands of tickboxes and allocating them to cabins just to not wake them up is minutes not spend rescuing. Anyone who gets annoyed at that needs to be permanently refused from any cruise in future as they’re a potential danger to the workings of emergency responders and other people on the cruise.
Tragic in all circumstances, especially the grandfather who lost hold of his granddaughter. The most recent incident, I believe in this case it's a member of the crew. I am in agreement with you as well on being notified/woken up in order to help look.
We had a lady jump overboard on our cruise a few years back. On a hot summer’s day in the boiling pacific sea. Thank goodness she was found shortly after and got back on board safely.
I'm appalled at the fact that people complain about being woke up. That's horrible! It's so sad that people have fallen overboard, but maybe don't get drunk. Keep people safe, all good here. Wake me up if someone's overboard. I would be happy to help. Thanks for the amazing video
No 3AM announcement. But on one cruise in the evening we could tell the ship was changing course and speeding up which was unusual given the clear weather predicted. Then we got the announcement that they were diverting to the nearest port due to a medical emergency. We arrived about 4 AM in that port, and left about 7 AM to continue down the coast, getting to our original port destination about 1 PM (or about 7 hours late). And I have to say the passengers where pretty polite about it all. Services worked hard to get excursions and others things cancelled and refunded where they could, the ship rolled out extra services for the morning. I hope that person survived their emergency. And the cruise ship handled the incident with flying colors.
In 2017, we were due to leave New York Harbour, when the Captain announced that we were delayed as the FBI were on board - all very mysterious. But we discovered that when the ship had earlier arrived in NY, there was one less passenger disembarked, than had originally embarked before crossing the Atlantic. Apparently CCTV eventually revealed that the passenger had "jumped" sometime during the crossing - very sad.
The fact that people complained that they missed a port due to a man overboard says a lot about society, one person's life is worth more than a stop of a holiday
i can understand why it'd be frustrating to spend so much on a trip and it gets ruined because someone cant handle their drinks but i wouldn't complain because i'd still want people to look for me if i fell overboard
I found your channel last year and enjoy your always positive stories. Britishisms are a family favorite. Regarding “man overboard” comments, the Coast Guard and not the captain calls off the search. Protecting human life will always come before your cruise stops. Keep up your great work and look forward to your new videos!
Tyvm for sharing this information! It always is upsetting to hear about people more concerned about a change in their plans, than saving the life of another. I remember on a drive back from Bakersfield, we encountered a two car collision. My father and I, stopped to see if we could help anyone, all while people driving by were yelling to move the cars off the road. The only people that stopped were the emergency services sent by 911. Surprising, but sad.
This is why I love cruising! Ok, cruise lines are playing to be the best cruise line but in terms of life at sea, they help each other. Royal helped NCL and perhaps also Disney. ❤ Thank you Emma for sharing the news.
Emma, the dummy has a name and it’s Oscar. The term Oscar comes the Signal Flag “O” or Oscar that is hoisted that means there’s a man overboard and you (another ship) should expect the ship flying O flag to make unexpected maneuvering . The ship will usually perform a Williamson Turn to bring the ship to a point it previously passed. I am guessing with all the new bridge technology, the OOD will mark the point on the electron plotting board and the ship will make the necessary maneuvers to return. And yes modern ships still use signal flags in this day of radio and satellites communications. Next time in port look for the Yellow flag flying from every ship’s signal hoist.
Hi Paul there is a fantastic video from Destin of SmarterEveryDay that covers the modern tactics of the US coastguard - they still do quite a bit by hand!
It's kinda ironic that you say someone who fell overboard is "only thinking of themselves" and then complain that you couldn't visit an island because you had to search for a missing person and that you didn't get compensation for some stranger dying
Yup that’s happened on a cruise we went on about 20 years ago. Man fell, jumped or was pushed overboard (no one really knew as he disappeared at sea) - never seen again.
I enjoy your channel and booked Iona after watching your video (which I told P&O in my questionnaire after booking!). I just wouldn’t want any possible first time cruisers to be put off by thinking they might fall overboard as it’s virtually impossible to do, which you did say in your video. When people go overboard it’s almost always with intent or due to excess alcohol and bad behaviour.
True. My comment was made because I believe the original title for this video was “when a guest falls off a cruise ship” which might put people off cruising and cause unnecessary fear. This has since changed to “jumps” which is the most likely scenario in an overboard case.
This happend to me once, about to get our drinks order and selection of bread but all of a sudden,an announcement came through and all the crew including EVERY waiter and waitress went outside on the muster Station deck and did a routine check to make sure they were all on the ship.Then we saw beacons being sent off the ship that lit in the night(it was 6 pm and was getting dark very quickly)Not long after we were told to go to our cabins and make sure they didn't have any missing friends and family.Then we heard the ships loud horn toot 5 times and the captain told us to go to our muster stations.We waited for about 1 and a half hours Until we heard the amazing announcement that there was nobody overboard just somebody saw a fishing net and thought it was a person.Phew 😌
I was on the Norwegian Breakaway on the afternoon of March, 11, 2022 just east of Cancun when a code Oscar was announced. Shortly thereafter there was an announcement asking if anyone could identify the person who went overboard. This announcement was repeated a couple times. I told the lady I was with at the time "if they can't identify him, they will call a muster to determine who is it" but that didn't happen, so it would seem someone identified him. We circled until dark at which point they left it to the Mexican Coast Guard. Story I heard was that it was a suicide. To my knowledge his body was never recovered.
We had two man overboard when I was in the navy. The first one was when we were leaving Hong Kong. The guy told the aft lookout he was jumping then he did. Our helicopter picked him up and took him to the aircraft carrier. Never saw him again. The navy doesn't like jumpers. The second was in a heavy (Very heavy) storm heading into the Pacific from Seattle. In the navy the drill is everyone heads to their muster station to try determine who may have gone over. Everyone was accounted for which is good because in that storm I doubt anyone would have been found.
We also had two men overboard, and the first was also a jumper. We had been sailing in a five-mile circle in the North Arabian Sea since forever, when right after morning quarters a guy jumped overboard and started swimming. I don't know where he thought he was going, but the closest land was Iran, about 75 miles away. This was during the hostage crisis, so I doubt he wanted to go there. Anyway, the motor whaleboat went after him, but he refused to be picked up until after he got tired. He was quickly sent to Subic, and after a few weeks was sent back to the ship. The other time was off the coast of New Zealand. A guy was working on the motor whaleboat, and somehow fell overboard. The RNZN ship following us picked him up before he had time to get wet. They gave him a tot of rum and sent him back.
@@michaelsommers2356 Cool! I was on the Sacramento and we were off Oman during the hostage crisis. With the Nimitz and maybe the Kitty Hawk or Connie. Spent some time at Diego Garcia. Wow! Subic Bay and Olongapo...My hangout was the Viva Young Club.
@@BobK58 I was on _Truxtun._ She normally was part of _Enterprise's_ battle group, but _Enterprise_ was in the yards, so we were with _Connie,_ which was appropriate since Truxtun commanded the original _Constellation._ We couldn't get away from Diego Garcia. Our air conditioners were constantly breaking. We went to Diego Garcia to get it fixed. On the way back, it broke again. Again they fixed it, and again it broke. This time it stayed fixed, but a few days after we left, _Davidson_ had an engine room fire, and we had to two them back Imagine a cruiser pretending to be a tug, and bringing a frigate alongside the tender.
@@michaelsommers2356 This is so cool. I bet we refueled your ship. We were refueling a ship when it caught on fire. I do not remember who that was but maybe it was the Davidson. They went dead in the water and we sent over P250 pumps and sandwiches on the helos as the crew fought the fire. I remember this because I was in fuel control in charge of the refueling. The other ship sent out a message that we had given them too much pressure which caused some kind of fuel leak which caused the fire. They later retracted that statement. I was twenty at the time and in charge of refueling two ships at one time. Jeez, haze gray and underway. FTN.
I have been on quite a few cruises and from what I have seen you would have to be really determined to "fall" overboard. The rails are quite high and you would have to climb up to fall off.
I was an EMT in a major west coast city. I'm no longer surprised by the selfishness or rudeness of people. I've seen people get mad because we were parked in the street for a call. I remember several times we would kick people off of elevators because we were bringing the patient down and people would scream at us and yell obscenities. People are jerks.
When under the influence, people have been known to think they can fly and they make the attempt off a ship’s deck, which doesn’t have a good outcome, frequently.
We had a gentleman commit suicide and jump off Allure of the Seas. There were cameras that showed him going overboard. We were all rousted to our MUSTER stations at about 6am so that everyone could be accounted for. His body was never recovered. Sad.
Emma nice video! I have anyway to tell you that it's not possible to ask each passenger whether they wanted for announcements to be made in their cabis for more than one reason. It's not practical from both a logistical and a techinal point of view. It would be quite burdersome to ask everybody. Then the ship's systems are not made in a way that you can chose in which cabins to make the announcements; it's usually like this: guest areas, crew areas, guest cabins, crew cabins, technical areas and the whole ship. Liked your video anyway, keep up the good work &:-)
Isn't it wild that a human being can be struggling to live, and people are UPSET that the cruise doesn't continue on as planned? Man, some people suck.
I was on the Majestic Princess (Sept 2021). We spent the day in Skagway, Alaska. My husband and I went to bed about 11:00pm and were awaken at about 11:30 with the following announcement “Attention bridge, man overboard, port side. Attention bridge, man overboard, port side” I sat straight up in the dark and was thinking did I just hear what I think I heard? The announcement was repeated and at that time my husband turned on the lights as well as the t.v. to the channel that has the bridge cam. In the mean time, I’m sitting there thinking WTF. They put a boat in the water to search and turned the shipped around. It was so dark you couldn’t see 6 inches in front of you and the water is freezing, there is no way someone would be found. There were several more announcements, they originally thought it was a crew member, it was not, so then we all had to report to our muster stations so they could account for everyone. We didn’t get back to our stateroom until almost 2:00am In the end, it was a false alarm but we learned that the crew on the Majestic were well trained and remained cool, calm, and collected. Hats off to them!
I will say the glass makes me nervous. The 30 floor high rise next to my office has an events space on the top floor. A waiter tripped and hit a portable refrigerator- which hit the window and crashed down through the bus shelter on the sidewalk. I haven’t trusted the glass as much since then.
@@marvindebot3264 Yeah, I wonder if that window was designed to regulation. I would have thought as well that windows in tall buildings were made to safely contain quite the hit. Of course, a refrigerator can be quite heavy and have hit the glass on a sharp corner with a bunch of momentum... I wonder if they (should) use some sort of laminated glass (like car windows) to make them able to not fall apart even if the glass breaks.
The thought of it is pretty haunting. Perhaps throwing out your lifejacket if you do see someone would help as a high vis marker for the area when the ship turns around. Would perhaps only help if it's calm seas though and if they can search with light
I love how you worded the question about saving a life, there is absolutely no good reason anybody needs to be so awful, they deserve to be shamed, no holiday is worth that nonsense. I remember being in a hotel when i was a teenager and there was a fire alarm pulled, prank but there was a child not accounted for so we had to wait outside for 4 hours (turned out a woman got drunk, her sister who she was visiting had took the kiddo back to hers and the mum forgot because she was drunk), was actually hilarious but people were screaming at the staff because they had no reason to not go back in, even when explaining they were doing a thorough search of all rooms. They realised on the cctv she never brought her back though and I was there when they told her. As a teenager, a species known for their attitude and brattiness, I understood a kid was missing and didn't understand why people were mad, my mum was just reminding us all we were being given free stuff, tea and biscuits are our standards apparently and I wasn't mad.
They didn't miss much, the private Cay is pretty boring lol. Cruise lines should give customers optional trackers that they can wear 24/7 so that in the rare event someone falls overboard, they can easily be located.
Had a large tree branch fall (due to disease, not weather ) and a neighbor complained about the city workers clearing it from blocking the street at 5 AM. Our street is used frequently by the Fire Dept/ EMS as there's a beach nearby. The selfishness of individuals today, amazes me.
When my girls were babies, we called the pacifier a binkie. Not sure if that's just a regional thing to the Midwest or more widespread, but I've always found it interesting just how many words there are for the thing babies suck on.
That’s what we have always called it was a Binky. My friend called it a Nuk and some call it Paci. I think Dummy is British, I heard someone on a British show call it that and for a second I thought she was calling her baby “dummy” lol!
I can’t imagine falling off a ship and no ones noticing me, and it just sails into the distance. Very scary but it doesn’t impact my vacation at all. I have vertigo so I can look off balconies but if I look down from 20+ stories to the bottom (usually a hotel) I get a bit nauseous.
You think that's bad. There are people that sail across oceans alone in relatively small sail boats. Occasionally, a boat will be found in the middle of the ocean without anyone on it, and really, the only explanation is that they went overboard. Imagine watching your own boat sail away from you knowing there is no one on it to turn it around...
In 2005 I was on the Elation and a woman fell overboard at about 7:30 in the morning. She was there with her family and it was such a tragedy. We turned back around and searched for hours. We were in Mexican waters at the time and the Mexican navy assisted off of our starboard bow. We spent our entire day at sea looking and never found her.
I will admit that this was a different time but I sailed from Southampton to Cape Town a few times on the old Union Castle Ships and the Railing were just that - railings! I was only a teenager the last time but I distinctly remember the railings were just above my waist. An adult it would be at hip height generally. Or thereabouts. I pacifically remember not liking going up to the railings as I was genuinely scared of falling overboard! With modern ships H&S has obviously involved.....
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Hey Emma, I am thoroughly enjoying your channel! (:
This is a possible reminder to link the video you mentioned by Morgan's Very Unofficial Travel Guides. (That is unless I am blind, or you don't want to link for some reason.) I realize that it's not a new upload but I know was looking for it so others might too.
did he get saved?
@@moist.teabag no he wasn’t.
I'n brand new to the channel, and have binge watched several episodes, great fun. - To help in locating people who have gone overboard, why not give each passenger a GPS wristband or something they carry when walking in areas they could potentially fall over the rails. They could make this an optional part of the cruise for a fee if it's too expensive. I'd buy one if cruising. Great, very interesting content Emma! 😁😎👍✌
Tip: if you are scared that you will fall cause you are drunk on Holland America Konigsdam I know there is something called a "Mocktail" which has no achohal and probably most cruises have that!
I find it interesting that 'Oscar' is their code word for man overboard - in the Navy our man overboard dummy was named Oscar. I actually got chosen the be the man 'overboard' one time. They threw Oscar over the side and I had to hide in the Captain's in-port cabin to see if my department would mark me missing in the emergency muster. Spoiler alert - do not fall overboard. Everytime we did a drill... we ran over Oscaar with the ship... 😎
😂 poor Oscar
Tito Tim, I would almost bet all the dummies used are called Oscar. The International signal flag used to indicate man overboard is the O flag, called Oscar. When a ship is flying the Oscar flag you (you being an another ship) Should be on guard for unexpected or unpredictable maneuvering.
@@paulcalhoun6339 agreed. Just like all the resuscitation dummies are called "Annie".
Damn
Oh gosh 😂 poor Oscar
We had a suicidal young person on our last cruise and their family was seated next to us at dinner. They complained bitterly that their family member always threatened to jump while they were on a cruise and the family said loudly that if they wanted to jump they should just go ahead and get it over with and leave the family in peace. 3 am off the coast of British Columbia they started on the PA system throughout the entire ship asking the young person to call in and confirm their presence. The announcement went out every 15 minutes until about 5:30 when apparently the young person was located. With the little knowledge we had of the family dynamic I sincerely hope the young person gets the help they need and the family stays away from cruising for a long while.
Oh my goodness.
Situations like that family at dinner should be reported to the ship's doctor and to another highest authority possible. ... Why in god's name would those people go on another cruise at all, and then make such a report to fellow passengers, I do not know. Actually, it is a cry for help.
@@AroundTheWorldWithEase I agree to tell a crew member ASAP. Though all that really might accomplish is reducing the ship’s liability if they really did jump, since the ship could argue that the family came even though they knew there was a risk.
sounds like they wanted them to jump, otherwise why keep booking cruises and why keep bringing them. sick.
@@Bmoney902Maybe because the person would threaten this any place they go. Should they lock him/her up and not go anywhere?
My last cruise on the Carnival Vista, we had a dude who got really drunk in the casino bar and later that evening was threatening to jump off his his balcony on deck 9. He got put on suicide watch, switched to an inside cabin and was locked inside with security outside the door at all times for the rest of the cruise. Crew brought his meals to him and everything.
Oh blimey 😳 he had some serious issues.
When was that cruise?
Exactly what needs to happen.
I thought you weee gonna say he ended up being that guy that DID jump overboard, landed on that one thing and hung there, and was recorded when he actually fell the rest of the way when people were trying to help. That’s exactly how that one happened too!
Good
I’m a retired police dispatcher/911 emergency call taker & I’ve never gotten more complaints then when a 3 year old girl went missing @ night & we used a reverse 911 system to call the house holds in a specific mile radius to alert people to give a description of her & people called so upset that they were woken up. Not like 1 or 5 like seriously our center in a smaller city (usually less than 30 police officers on the road at once) got about 40 call in complaints. I’m still shocked that anyone would would value their sleep over another persons life (a child at that).
Almost nothing amazes me anymore. So sad.
Really?! My goodness!
We live in a self-centered society.
I'm nor surprised, after seeing how selfish people have been during covid
How awful. I'd be out there helping. It makes me feel sad just thinking about a child being out there alone.
We were on a cruise where a crew member jumped overboard, at night. Process was the same for searching. Sharp turn and patterned search until Coast Guard arrived to take over the search. Captain asked people with balconies to assist in search. Unfortunately, he was never found. Very sad.
Oh goodness, so sad. I think people forget that it's often the crew who jump, not just passengers.
I've heard a lot of turmoil can go on amongst the staff on cruise ships...I hope he wasn't thrown off 😬
@@rustinstardust2094 He left a suicide note.
toni sullivan May i ask what it said if you don’t mind or remember?
@@marissamaddox3131 Not sure what you are talking about. I don't see your name anywhere in this discussion.
People complain that their vacation has been "ruined" because a ship's crew tries to save a person's life?? I guess there are more narcissists and sociopaths in this world than I ever imagined. 😔
Thanks for the video, Emma.
Some people just can no longer care about people who get drunk and do dangerous things, but themselves instead of killing others
I think when planning I would look for the missed port policy, but when it comes down to it, I’m not concerned about compensation
As a nurse on night shift, I once had a patient insist I get the doctor to prescribe them a sleeping tablet. I informed them that the doctor was in the middle of a resus, literally putting paddles on a man's chest and shouting, "Clear!" The patient looked at me like I was insane and said, "But I need my sleep" and insisted that I let the other patient die so they could get a sleeping tablet.
Every time I say human nature doesn't surprise me any more, something like that happens.
To be a Devil's Advocate, I can only see people complaining like this to cruise companies so they can have some type of reimbursement. People save up for months if not years and take time off work which is hard for many Americans. People like that definitely need to invest in cruise insurance. I don't think some mean to be heartless, but some don't feel sorry for most drunk people falling over because they can't handle their drinks.
Here's a tip DONT FALL OVERBOARD!! AND RUIN EVERYONE'S VACATION YOU dummy
This happened on a cruise we were on. Announcement came through around 5 am, broadcast through every cabin. It was light as it was a summer cruise, just a few hours out of port. They managed to save the person's life, mainly because it was light and the water warmer than at other times of the year. He and a dozen mates were disembarked at the next port as it was a deliberate act, his mates knew he was planning to do it and didnt alert the staff.
It's unfortunate that people have to deal with mental health problems. Someone who does that as a "prank" needs help.
The water temperature probably doesn't change much across the year, but the light was. Around here if somebody falls in the water you have about a half an hour to find them and remove them from the water before they die of hypothermia, the water here is extremely cold and water is very effective at transferring heat.
That is horrifying. I am not sure whether you mean that the person who went overboard was attempting to unalive themself and their "mates" knew yet did nothing to prevent the attempt; or whether you mean it was like, idk I guess idiots who thought it would somehow be funny or, I can't even thing of a reason tbh.
@@SmallSpoonBrigade Water temperatures changes drastically literally all around the world every year lol
@@theinvisibleneonrainbowzeb2567 "unalive"? you mean suicide? What's with these new woke terms?
We were on a Princess in transit from Auckland to Melbourne. In the middle of the night there was an alarm for a missing passenger. Every cabin searched, even under the bed and out on the balcony. Subsequently, wallet and magnetic stripe card were found on the Promenade Deck. A review of CCTV footage showed that the passenger had jump the previous night. We were too far from where he jumped to go back. He shared a cabin with his brother. His parents were also on the cruise. I can't begin to imagine how the family, Captain and crew felt. This is when the Captain and crew demonstrate their professionalism, which was well demonstrated. I can't imagine the circumstances which would have prompted the young man to jump.
Yes, me neither, hopefully we will never understand. So so sad. ❤️
Good Lord, his poor family.
@@Katy32344 Indeed, if the passengers and crew were deeply affected, life being more than play for the passengers and work for the crew, then how much more so for the family.
To go back. Your naivety is almost funny. What do you think is the ocean? It's cold, it moves, it's salty etc. . People don't survive very long. Many hurt themselves or die falling off of the ship. Depending on their intentions and will and body conditions they struggle for a while. Most don't have hours let alone an entire day. Most give up quickly as they realize noone is coming and many probably didn't even want to be found.
That’s one way of getting out of paying the bar tab.
I didn’t realise they’d wake everyone up - great to hear that they try to get all eyes on the case!
Absolutely what I would want if I fell overboard!
Me neither.
I actually assumed that they'd try to keep it all 'hush-hush'! 😳
@Digby Dooright I didn't understand that either. No normal grandparent would put a child in that kind of danger. How awful to have to live with that.
its sounds absolutely retarded to me. Whats the odds that some average person sleeping is going to contribute in a meaningful way to the search that is being done by the crew and people still up. Seems like its more theater than anything esle to show that you are doing whatever you can.
Its one thing to miss a day because your ship is involved in a search its another to wake you up when there is no chance it will chance anything.
Yeah and people know because they don’t just come on a speaker in all the rooms and wake you up unless it’s an emergency
The captain is responsible for each and every soul onboard. If the captain believes it's best for everyone to get out of bed and help locate someone, regardless of whether or not you think it's cool, just do as is requested. Next time it could be your life on the line
unless you're on the costa concordia***
Not from getting smashed drunk and leaping overboard though
Lol calm down.
"Uhm guys... captain said so that means YOU HAVE too!
Guys!! He said!!"
I was on a carnival cruise in the Bahamas 5 years ago and a man got into a fight with his wife and jumped off his balcony. The people in the room next to them heard him scream to her, threatening to jump. We spent 8 hours sitting in the middle of the ocean before we could proceed. There were 3 other ships circling us. The craziest thing... the couple were on their honeymoon.
that’s sad
Was he found?
@@liamupfah2513 He wasn't, sadly.
I've seen some crazy @ss $hit happen between Newlyweds.
5 years ago, we were on the Royal Caribbean & we realized the Carnival was docked next to us.. that doesn't happen. We found that a man pushed his wife over. We talked with folks that heard the couple screaming at one another. Carnival has a lot of bad stories. On my TT, I even posted where she went over. She was never found
Generally speaking, when someone's been drinking and they fall overboard, it's usually because they were trying to sit on the railing or climb on something they wouldn't have when sober.
Yes,. Alcohol with stupidity,. Doesn't end well !!
Yes, and hitting the water from the height is about as bad as hitting concrete. Only trained high divers can pull it off and they know what they are doing. Someone in that situation likely made the most epic belly flop ever.
He went running at it and went over (while very drunk) according to an employee there.
People, don't FALL overboard.
@@nellgrill3845 or foul play!!!!
What amazes me is not drunks or emotionally distraught people jumping or falling overboard, it's the complete lack of knowledge adults generally have about falling into water. When I was a teen I jumped from a 2nd story balcony into a backyard pool because I thought it was going to be fun... HITTING THE WATER HURT BAD!! If you are not trained in how to break the surface tension of the water with your body, it's like hitting concrete even at only falling twenty feet!
I've been on 9 or 10 cruises and I've seen a person try to actually climb the guardrails put up by the ship. The ship staff were there pretty quickly and took her away, but one other time at night did I hear the "Oscar, Oscar, Oscar, Port Side" alarm. That nitwit got rescued and was put off the ship at the next port of call. Stay safe and well my friends :)
Yep, I've jumped off small cliffs into a lake as a teen. My 1st jump, was like 10 ft up and I thought plugging my noes would help keep water from going up my noes. When I hit the water, my fist slipped into my forehead and I got water up my nose. After trying smaller jumps, I realized it was better not to do that and eventually worked up to a 25 ft jump.
Never mind the freezing cold water, the energy it takes to stay afloat for most people, then the sea wildlife!! Which is my biggest deterrent to ever even thinking about jumping into the OCEAN!
@Keviekev115 Yeah survive the fall and be all bloody and tender for the wildlife. No thanks.
A few comments I'd always make sure I mentioned when doing the late pax drills, it was to never do anything that could result in falling overboard. Chances are we won't find you.
And don't hear the general emergency alarm go off, panic, and assume we're sinking. Because it's more likely to be a situation like this where there was doubt over whether somebody had gone overboard and a full muster was required to see if anybody was missing.
This sort of happened on one of my cruises several years ago. A drunk passenger was fighting with his girlfriend in their cabin and the neighbors called ships security. He ran from them, went to the top deck and jumped over the barrier. He didn't land in the ocean though, instead landed on one of the lower deck bars where several of the ships crew were including the ships doctor. There was no announcement made, just the alarm for the crew so nobody really knew what was happening but the ship starting turning and actually heading towards Cuba. Sadly, the guy didn't make it and was pretty much dead on impact.
Am I supposed to feel sorry for him
@@unlvqasl I... don't really care?
@@tilarium2💯
Thanks for sharing
I took a cross-atlantic cruise back in the 70's and a LOT happened on that cruise: we ran aground in Senegal (fortunately, they got her off the bottom), we skirted a hurricane, and we rescued a heart-attack victim from a freighter half way across the ocean. Then a helicopter came to pick up the man when we got close enough to shore.
I didn't hear of anyone complaining. Instead, it added to the adventure.
Anyone who complains about trying to save someones life doesn't deserve to live.
Was this the solar eclipse cruise on the Canberra in June of 1973?
Everything was an adventure in the’70’s people have changed so much
@@rpervinkingsolar eclipse cruise??? Ooooohhh!
I was on the Anthem of the Seas in 2017 when a boy drowned in the pool on the first day of the cruise. We headed back toward New Jersey and they helicoptered him to the hospital. We found out later that unfortunately he didn't make it. This incident is why there are now lifeguards on all RCCL ships. So I'm reminded of the incident every time I cruise with RCCL.
There were no lifeguards until 2017??? What that seems crazy!
I was on a cruise in 2019 and my cruise buddy (long time friend of mine!) got really drunk (we had the all inclusive drinks package haha). It was also insanely stormy that night and about 2am I got a knock on the door and it was him being escorted by two crew members. He wasn't happy about being walked back to the room, but after two minutes of sitting on the bed, he was OUT! Scary to think he could have been one of those gone overboard! I did tell him the next morning to be thankful the crew was looking out for him and he agreed xD
This is so interesting. That would be a scary experience. I absolutely wouldn’t mind being woken up to help locate someone.
I was travelling from Belfast to Isle of Man on a car ferry when a mayday, man overboard was received from a yacht. All vessels in the vicinity had to attend and search, apparently under maritime law. The guy was found alive in around about 1hr later but died in the helicopter going to hospital. Funny thing was that a Russian cruise ship called the Maxim Gorky was involved in the search. I thought it would be the only time I would see it, but later that year I was on a cruise ship in Naples and it was the ship docked right beside ours. Small world eh? Great video Emma.
I’m curious. Since he was found alive only about an hour later, what killed him?
It’s really cold in Northern Ireland
Hi emma, I thought your video was very descriptive and a good insight for those wondering what happens with a Man overboard (MoB). Behind the scences there is a whole raft of things that is getting done. Checklists, boat preps, searches etc. The last thing we would want to do on a ship would be to turn around and look for a MOB, only to find that the person is actually still on board. So communication Is key in the first instance to make sure the person is not on the vessel still. Unfortunately passengerships have a dangerous cargo (passengers) for the most part they are fine, but when things go wrong, they can go down hill fast. My first 2 and a half years at sea we had 3 man overboard, one dead before he hit the water, one died due to exposure, the other was found weeks later when the body washed up on a beach. Those MOBs were all on passenger vessels. I am happy to say that for the rest of my seagoing career of 21 years, I did not have another man overboard, thank goodness
This is good awareness that if you do go overboard, a) the fall might kill you or knock you out, and b) even immediate action by the ship may not find you (especially in the dark).
I think it's really nice to see how much time and effort was spent trying to rescue someone.
I had a teacher who had jumped overboard on a cruise ship (obviously he did survive to teach me!).
Alcohol was definitely the major contributor to the incident but it was definitely a wild story to find out about a teacher!
He was lying.
I remember being woken up one night by "Oscar, Oscar, Oscar. Starboard side". It really shook me at the time. We spent probably 10 hours just circling, joined by nearby cargo ships.
If someone says the don't want to be woken up if someone goes overboard, they shouldn't be allowed to board.
Years ago on a Carnival cruise we had a similar incident during our return to NYC from the Caribbean. Around 1:00am a man jumped from Deck 10 or 11, when Security attempted to enter his stateroom after being called for a domestic disturbance. We remained in a search pattern for around 10+ hrs until released by the Coast Guard. He was never found.
It was Hunter Biden.
He was unfortunately found.
I heard someone recently jumped off of Mardi Gras during my trip on liberty from the 25th to the 29th
I was flying a kite and was dragged off the ship...literally.
@@AlvinSeville1 deserved
We went on a cruise in January with our kids. We had a balcony, and the thought hit me that if for any reason one of our kids fell off, there would be no point in the boat even slowing down. They can't swim and even if they could it would be almost impossible to see them.
But again like she said, it is pretty hard for an adult to fall over let alone a child.
I have only seen one person jump 🦘 from a ship.It was the ferry across Lake Constance between Fredrickshaven and Romanshorn, Switzerland.A woman if I recall and deliberately jumped and was rescued by a Swiss policeman who risked his own life jumping in the freezing water to rescue her.
What a wonderful man.
no one should have the option to not hear the alert, a persons life is worth more than you're beauty sleep, on vacation or not, PERIOD.
I'm so sorry you had to experience this on your cruise. It's so tragic when it happens and so sad that some people see no other way around things in life. I get the idea and I dont blame people for choosing it, but its still very sad. Because no one ever fell off a ship trust me. I've seen it happen and it's a sight i never forget and I am sorry for anyone who has ever had to endure it.
You're a breath of fresh air young lady. Your enthusiasm for boating holidays is clear. We've stopped ocean cruising as we find the ships too big, prefer smaller boats that get into old city centre ports, with less crowds on board, embarking and disembarking. We have now switched to river cruising on small 150pax boats that are small enough to moor in the centre of towns and cities, for an easy walk on walk off experience often with complementary bicycles. No more herding onto fleets of excursion buses an hour away from cities and towns. Loads of scenery to be seen passing by all day long rather than just distant boring horizon. Rhine and Danube are favourites, it's expensive compared to the ocean boats but so much more relaxing and holiday oriented than the busy big boats. Great channel btw, and well constructed videos. Well done.
Thanks so much 🥹❤️
We had a similar issue in 2009 on the mariner of the seas. Family looking for teen son. They thought it was overboard. He just fell asleep in his friends cabin.
At least those bears didn't get him.
When I was about 5, I was playing with a cloth ball with my arms outside the window of a docked ship, and I dropped the ball. I was really sad because it was my favorite toy at the time (it had sentimental value to me because it was the one thing a friend had given me before they left the country), and I thought it was going to sink in the sea water. To this day I don’t know how my mom and a friendly attendant managed to fish it out of wherever it fell. It was wet and it shrunk a little but I was ecstatic. I’m 27 now and I still remember that.
Top-notch report. Next level content!
Great video Emma! Sorry for the woman who lost her life. Cruise safety measures are good, 25 out of 30 million is a good safety record. But when someone does go overboard the first priority is to render aid to that person as soon as possible, it’s sad that some passengers would feel different. Turning the ship around and missing ports is not an issue when it comes to saving someone life! The media always try to paint cruises in a bad light, whether it's a rare man overboard incident, Norovirus or COVID on ship, the media coverage is always, “look at the big bad cruise ship”. I find the recent coverage of this poor woman’s incident to be much the same..
Well the odds may be 1 in a million, but that includes suicides and people who get incredibly drunk. Don’t get drunk or attempt suicide and you odds will be much better 🤔
i got whooping cough from a cruise
Well… cruise ships are absolutely horrible for the environment so there’s that. The equivalent emissions of one million cars in a single day….
And they don’t pay any taxes. Cruise ships are pretty effed up honestly. Coming from someone who works for local tour boat company out of one of the busiest ports in America.. it is devastating to learn about the practices of these large cruise companies. Absolutely despicable
@@703Fefe Well, the subject was not the environmental impact but hey! I don’t think all your thousands of tour boats are good for the environment either…… If you gathered all the tour boats on the US coast into one area and measured NOx emissions the numbers would be horrible too. And are we excusing the noxious fumes emitted from the hundreds of thousands of aircraft flying overhead 24 hours a day? I’m sure you’ve used one at some point. How about the horrible noxious fumes from the container ships that brought most of the items that you own from China, Taiwan, and other manufacturing countries over to your country for your consumption? Apple device anyone… Or how about the oil tankers that bring the oil to make the gasoline/ diesel for your tour boat? They all emit noxious fumes that are horrible for the environment. I don't hear people saying they're willing to give up their personal devices, clothing, appliances, and other luxuries, supplies and necessities that are a derivative of oil during manufacturing or during transport and therefore horrible for the environment. F.Y.I. some new ships are LNG.... Just sayin!!
My dad was in the Merchant Marine in World War 2 and he always said the same thing when someone went missing from a cruise ship. He'd say, "Only fools and passengers drink at sea."
That’s why some of them enjoy drinks in ports.
Dumb statement it's fine to have A drink or 2 but it's those who are drunks that wreck trips
@@Waydewilson89 He sailed both the Indian and Pacific oceans for years. YEARS! Dumb statement indeed!
Me knowing I am 13 and can’t afford cruises, yet still watches these. 😭
Ha ha, thanks for watching! :-)
I think Emma was cruising at 13.
By the time you earn the money to take a cruise you will be very knowledgeable.
You can start saving some money now even if it's only a little bit. Get a "piggy" bank and feed it something once a week A pence (penny, etc.) or 2 is enough to start with.
@@jacquelyns9709 alright I get 20 a week, but when I turn 14 I’m totally getting a job
Study well at school and you’ll be able to get a job that pays enough for you to be able to cruise.
If you shop around you can get some pretty sweet prices if you’re ok to have an inside stateroom, out of season or a shorter 3/4 day cruise etc.
Don’t ever give up on your dreams.
People don’t realize that when you go overboard in the ocean the likelihood of you being found is extremely nill. Not to mention the shock your body goes into.
As an emergency responder, emergency PA systems aren’t designed for customer comforts.
Every second counts and spending minutes weeding through thousands of tickboxes and allocating them to cabins just to not wake them up is minutes not spend rescuing.
Anyone who gets annoyed at that needs to be permanently refused from any cruise in future as they’re a potential danger to the workings of emergency responders and other people on the cruise.
Tragic in all circumstances, especially the grandfather who lost hold of his granddaughter. The most recent incident, I believe in this case it's a member of the crew.
I am in agreement with you as well on being notified/woken up in order to help look.
I think the man had issues and he purposefully dropped the child off the ship
Those situations are not alike at all.
He could've had a tighter grip
If I would've looked, I would've checked out the captains chambers.
@@landoc808 They do not have to be alike yet still tragic
West Coast American here. I have never heard of a pacifier called a dummy. We call dummies dummy. Pacifiers are also sometimes called binkies.
We had a lady jump overboard on our cruise a few years back. On a hot summer’s day in the boiling pacific sea. Thank goodness she was found shortly after and got back on board safely.
I'm appalled at the fact that people complain about being woke up. That's horrible! It's so sad that people have fallen overboard, but maybe don't get drunk. Keep people safe, all good here. Wake me up if someone's overboard. I would be happy to help. Thanks for the amazing video
No 3AM announcement. But on one cruise in the evening we could tell the ship was changing course and speeding up which was unusual given the clear weather predicted. Then we got the announcement that they were diverting to the nearest port due to a medical emergency. We arrived about 4 AM in that port, and left about 7 AM to continue down the coast, getting to our original port destination about 1 PM (or about 7 hours late). And I have to say the passengers where pretty polite about it all. Services worked hard to get excursions and others things cancelled and refunded where they could, the ship rolled out extra services for the morning. I hope that person survived their emergency. And the cruise ship handled the incident with flying colors.
Emma’s UA-cam channel is perhaps the best and certainly most real reviewer of everything cruising.
Thank you! 😁❤️
Did you hear about the man who fell overboard near Thanksgiving this year? He stayed alive in the water for like 20 hours
Anyone complaining about having to search or missing ports should be banned from future cruises
In 2017, we were due to leave New York Harbour, when the Captain announced that we were delayed as the FBI were on board - all very mysterious. But we discovered that when the ship had earlier arrived in NY, there was one less passenger disembarked, than had originally embarked before crossing the Atlantic. Apparently CCTV eventually revealed that the passenger had "jumped" sometime during the crossing - very sad.
I was on a cruise and employee lowered himself in to the water. We did exactly what she said . We turned around and searched for hours
Umm no, if someone goes overboard, everyone is getting woken up and should help look. It’s basic human decency.
Thank you for sharing this. Good to know that it is handled as well as it can be by the cruise line.
The fact that people complained that they missed a port due to a man overboard says a lot about society, one person's life is worth more than a stop of a holiday
i can understand why it'd be frustrating to spend so much on a trip and it gets ruined because someone cant handle their drinks but i wouldn't complain because i'd still want people to look for me if i fell overboard
I found your channel last year and enjoy your always positive stories. Britishisms are a family favorite.
Regarding “man overboard” comments, the Coast Guard and not the captain calls off the search. Protecting human life will always come before your cruise stops.
Keep up your great work and look forward to your new videos!
It’s very heartening to hear the efforts they go to to try and save someone. RIP to the guy.
Tyvm for sharing this information! It always is upsetting to hear about people more concerned about a change in their plans, than saving the life of another. I remember on a drive back from Bakersfield, we encountered a two car collision. My father and I, stopped to see if we could help anyone, all while people driving by were yelling to move the cars off the road. The only people that stopped were the emergency services sent by 911. Surprising, but sad.
“Then we can just weed out the people who say no”
Yeah! And push em overboard 🤣🤣🙂
That’s the spirit! 🤣
This is why I love cruising! Ok, cruise lines are playing to be the best cruise line but in terms of life at sea, they help each other. Royal helped NCL and perhaps also Disney. ❤
Thank you Emma for sharing the news.
Thank you! 😁❤️
Its maritime law to answer a Mayday , regardless of the livery on the ship .
They have to.
Drones with thermal cameras should be the future for solutions would be so cool
As you say Emma, cruise liners will place safety first so we have to do the same. Thank you for sharing.
No questionnaires everyone gets the message in the cabin.
Emma, the dummy has a name and it’s Oscar. The term Oscar comes the Signal Flag “O” or Oscar that is hoisted that means there’s a man overboard and you (another ship) should expect the ship flying O flag to make unexpected maneuvering . The ship will usually perform a Williamson Turn to bring the ship to a point it previously passed. I am guessing with all the new bridge technology, the OOD will mark the point on the electron plotting board and the ship will make the necessary maneuvers to return. And yes modern ships still use signal flags in this day of radio and satellites communications. Next time in port look for the Yellow flag flying from every ship’s signal hoist.
@@markreynolds9135 Different Navy. Maybe the Royal Navy.
Hi Paul there is a fantastic video from Destin of SmarterEveryDay that covers the modern tactics of the US coastguard - they still do quite a bit by hand!
Interesting info thank you
It's kinda ironic that you say someone who fell overboard is "only thinking of themselves" and then complain that you couldn't visit an island because you had to search for a missing person and that you didn't get compensation for some stranger dying
Yup that’s happened on a cruise we went on about 20 years ago. Man fell, jumped or was pushed overboard (no one really knew as he disappeared at sea) - never seen again.
That's why I'm writing a mystery novel set on a cruise ship. Murder is either pushed, shoved, or tossed overboard.
It’s very difficult to fall off a cruise ship. Most people who go overboard have chosen to do so by jumping. There is a difference.
Yep absolutely :-) Thanks for watching 😀👏🏼
I enjoy your channel and booked Iona after watching your video (which I told P&O in my questionnaire after booking!). I just wouldn’t want any possible first time cruisers to be put off by thinking they might fall overboard as it’s virtually impossible to do, which you did say in your video. When people go overboard it’s almost always with intent or due to excess alcohol and bad behaviour.
Unless someone’s pushed.
True. My comment was made because I believe the original title for this video was “when a guest falls off a cruise ship” which might put people off cruising and cause unnecessary fear. This has since changed to “jumps” which is the most likely scenario in an overboard case.
@@jsmith1071 I watched too many crime shows.
This happend to me once, about to get our drinks order and selection of bread but all of a sudden,an announcement came through and all the crew including EVERY waiter and waitress went outside on the muster Station deck and did a routine check to make sure they were all on the ship.Then we saw beacons being sent off the ship that lit in the night(it was 6 pm and was getting dark very quickly)Not long after we were told to go to our cabins and make sure they didn't have any missing friends and family.Then we heard the ships loud horn toot 5 times and the captain told us to go to our muster stations.We waited for about 1 and a half hours Until we heard the amazing announcement that there was nobody overboard just somebody saw a fishing net and thought it was a person.Phew 😌
If I heard someone complaining about missing a port or being woken up by the announcement, I would lose my absolute mind on them.
I was on the Norwegian Breakaway on the afternoon of March, 11, 2022 just east of Cancun when a code Oscar was announced. Shortly thereafter there was an announcement asking if anyone could identify the person who went overboard. This announcement was repeated a couple times. I told the lady I was with at the time "if they can't identify him, they will call a muster to determine who is it" but that didn't happen, so it would seem someone identified him.
We circled until dark at which point they left it to the Mexican Coast Guard.
Story I heard was that it was a suicide.
To my knowledge his body was never recovered.
Not just a cruise line policy but international law
We had two man overboard when I was in the navy. The first one was when we were leaving Hong Kong. The guy told the aft lookout he was jumping then he did. Our helicopter picked him up and took him to the aircraft carrier. Never saw him again. The navy doesn't like jumpers. The second was in a heavy (Very heavy) storm heading into the Pacific from Seattle. In the navy the drill is everyone heads to their muster station to try determine who may have gone over. Everyone was accounted for which is good because in that storm I doubt anyone would have been found.
We also had two men overboard, and the first was also a jumper. We had been sailing in a five-mile circle in the North Arabian Sea since forever, when right after morning quarters a guy jumped overboard and started swimming. I don't know where he thought he was going, but the closest land was Iran, about 75 miles away. This was during the hostage crisis, so I doubt he wanted to go there. Anyway, the motor whaleboat went after him, but he refused to be picked up until after he got tired. He was quickly sent to Subic, and after a few weeks was sent back to the ship.
The other time was off the coast of New Zealand. A guy was working on the motor whaleboat, and somehow fell overboard. The RNZN ship following us picked him up before he had time to get wet. They gave him a tot of rum and sent him back.
@@michaelsommers2356 Cool! I was on the Sacramento and we were off Oman during the hostage crisis. With the Nimitz and maybe the Kitty Hawk or Connie. Spent some time at Diego Garcia. Wow! Subic Bay and Olongapo...My hangout was the Viva Young Club.
@@BobK58 I was on _Truxtun._ She normally was part of _Enterprise's_ battle group, but _Enterprise_ was in the yards, so we were with _Connie,_ which was appropriate since Truxtun commanded the original _Constellation._
We couldn't get away from Diego Garcia. Our air conditioners were constantly breaking. We went to Diego Garcia to get it fixed. On the way back, it broke again. Again they fixed it, and again it broke. This time it stayed fixed, but a few days after we left, _Davidson_ had an engine room fire, and we had to two them back Imagine a cruiser pretending to be a tug, and bringing a frigate alongside the tender.
@@michaelsommers2356 This is so cool. I bet we refueled your ship. We were refueling a ship when it caught on fire. I do not remember who that was but maybe it was the Davidson. They went dead in the water and we sent over P250 pumps and sandwiches on the helos as the crew fought the fire. I remember this because I was in fuel control in charge of the refueling. The other ship sent out a message that we had given them too much pressure which caused some kind of fuel leak which caused the fire. They later retracted that statement. I was twenty at the time and in charge of refueling two ships at one time. Jeez, haze gray and underway. FTN.
When would the police investigate if circumstances were suspicious?
I have been on quite a few cruises and from what I have seen you would have to be really determined to "fall" overboard. The rails are quite high and you would have to climb up to fall off.
The idea that someone would opt out of or even be annoyed by an announcement that a fellow human is in danger and needs help is f*cked up.
No one just falls overboard . They jump or are doing something very dangerous like standing or sitting on balcony rails.
Absolutely, I hope I got that across in the video! ❤️
On my Alaska cruise, there was another ship that was having trouble. We went to help. I was glad that was the attitude
I was an EMT in a major west coast city. I'm no longer surprised by the selfishness or rudeness of people. I've seen people get mad because we were parked in the street for a call. I remember several times we would kick people off of elevators because we were bringing the patient down and people would scream at us and yell obscenities. People are jerks.
Blimey 😞❤️
My daughter is a paramedic.... and yes... people are jerks for sure!
When under the influence, people have been known to think they can fly and they make the attempt off a ship’s deck, which doesn’t have a good outcome, frequently.
We had a gentleman commit suicide and jump off Allure of the Seas. There were cameras that showed him going overboard. We were all rousted to our MUSTER stations at about 6am so that everyone could be accounted for. His body was never recovered. Sad.
Emma nice video! I have anyway to tell you that it's not possible to ask each passenger whether they wanted for announcements to be made in their cabis for more than one reason. It's not practical from both a logistical and a techinal point of view. It would be quite burdersome to ask everybody. Then the ship's systems are not made in a way that you can chose in which cabins to make the announcements; it's usually like this: guest areas, crew areas, guest cabins, crew cabins, technical areas and the whole ship.
Liked your video anyway, keep up the good work &:-)
Isn't it wild that a human being can be struggling to live, and people are UPSET that the cruise doesn't continue on as planned? Man, some people suck.
I was on the Majestic Princess (Sept 2021). We spent the day in Skagway, Alaska. My husband and I went to bed about 11:00pm and were awaken at about 11:30 with the following announcement “Attention bridge, man overboard, port side. Attention bridge, man overboard, port side”
I sat straight up in the dark and was thinking did I just hear what I think I heard? The announcement was repeated and at that time my husband turned on the lights as well as the t.v. to the channel that has the bridge cam. In the mean time, I’m sitting there thinking WTF.
They put a boat in the water to search and turned the shipped around. It was so dark you couldn’t see 6 inches in front of you and the water is freezing, there is no way someone would be found.
There were several more announcements, they originally thought it was a crew member, it was not, so then we all had to report to our muster stations so they could account for everyone. We didn’t get back to our stateroom until almost 2:00am
In the end, it was a false alarm but we learned that the crew on the Majestic were well trained and remained cool, calm, and collected. Hats off to them!
My family calls a pacifier a "nummy" going back 5 generations. LOL
I will say the glass makes me nervous. The 30 floor high rise next to my office has an events space on the top floor. A waiter tripped and hit a portable refrigerator- which hit the window and crashed down through the bus shelter on the sidewalk. I haven’t trusted the glass as much since then.
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Wow, that is just not supposed to be possible. That glass is so strong the frame fails first or at least it's supposed to be.
@@marvindebot3264 That was always my understanding until I saw the hole in the window and bus shelter.
@@marvindebot3264 Yeah, I wonder if that window was designed to regulation. I would have thought as well that windows in tall buildings were made to safely contain quite the hit. Of course, a refrigerator can be quite heavy and have hit the glass on a sharp corner with a bunch of momentum... I wonder if they (should) use some sort of laminated glass (like car windows) to make them able to not fall apart even if the glass breaks.
I grew up in Ireland and I've always heard the word "soother" used around me, rather than "dummy" or "pacifier"
crazy this got reccommended to me now....
Imagine seing a dummy falling overboard, thinking it's a person and jumping behind him.
Anyone who complained about missing an island day to search for a man overboard fails as a human and should reevaluate their life
We had an overboard on one cruise and the announcement was "Bravo, Bravo, Operation Bravo" We circled for hours again.
The thought of it is pretty haunting. Perhaps throwing out your lifejacket if you do see someone would help as a high vis marker for the area when the ship turns around. Would perhaps only help if it's calm seas though and if they can search with light
you should throw whatever you can get your hands on an floats. even plastic chairs. mark the region.
Emma has done a really good account of man overboard on a cruise, thanks and well done!
Thanks for watching 😀👏🏼
I love how you worded the question about saving a life, there is absolutely no good reason anybody needs to be so awful, they deserve to be shamed, no holiday is worth that nonsense. I remember being in a hotel when i was a teenager and there was a fire alarm pulled, prank but there was a child not accounted for so we had to wait outside for 4 hours (turned out a woman got drunk, her sister who she was visiting had took the kiddo back to hers and the mum forgot because she was drunk), was actually hilarious but people were screaming at the staff because they had no reason to not go back in, even when explaining they were doing a thorough search of all rooms. They realised on the cctv she never brought her back though and I was there when they told her. As a teenager, a species known for their attitude and brattiness, I understood a kid was missing and didn't understand why people were mad, my mum was just reminding us all we were being given free stuff, tea and biscuits are our standards apparently and I wasn't mad.
They didn't miss much, the private Cay is pretty boring lol.
Cruise lines should give customers optional trackers that they can wear 24/7 so that in the rare event someone falls overboard, they can easily be located.
The chances of falling overboard is even lower if you’re not drunk and treat the rails as they are intended.
Yep, almost nothing I'd say! Thanks for watching 😀👏🏼
Again, you cannot fall overboard.
Had a large tree branch fall (due to disease, not weather ) and a neighbor complained about the city workers clearing it from blocking the street at 5 AM.
Our street is used frequently by the Fire Dept/ EMS as there's a beach nearby.
The selfishness of individuals today, amazes me.
When my girls were babies, we called the pacifier a binkie. Not sure if that's just a regional thing to the Midwest or more widespread, but I've always found it interesting just how many words there are for the thing babies suck on.
I'm from Maryland and we call them binkies too. Never heard them called dummies.
That’s what we have always called it was a Binky. My friend called it a Nuk and some call it Paci. I think Dummy is British, I heard someone on a British show call it that and for a second I thought she was calling her baby “dummy” lol!
From NY and I call them binkies, too!
OMG I was a dancer for Norwegian Sky in 2018! I never knew a man went overboard in ‘09 😮 I can’t believe you were on the ship when it happened!
I can’t imagine falling off a ship and no ones noticing me, and it just sails into the distance. Very scary but it doesn’t impact my vacation at all. I have vertigo so I can look off balconies but if I look down from 20+ stories to the bottom (usually a hotel) I get a bit nauseous.
You think that's bad. There are people that sail across oceans alone in relatively small sail boats. Occasionally, a boat will be found in the middle of the ocean without anyone on it, and really, the only explanation is that they went overboard.
Imagine watching your own boat sail away from you knowing there is no one on it to turn it around...
In 2005 I was on the Elation and a woman fell overboard at about 7:30 in the morning. She was there with her family and it was such a tragedy. We turned back around and searched for hours. We were in Mexican waters at the time and the Mexican navy assisted off of our starboard bow. We spent our entire day at sea looking and never found her.
...and then there's the sharks....
I will admit that this was a different time but I sailed from Southampton to Cape Town a few times on the old Union Castle Ships and the Railing were just that - railings! I was only a teenager the last time but I distinctly remember the railings were just above my waist. An adult it would be at hip height generally. Or thereabouts. I pacifically remember not liking going up to the railings as I was genuinely scared of falling overboard!
With modern ships H&S has obviously involved.....